Author Topic: 007 difficulty: EH 1000% ED1000% EA100% ERS100% (Read 11355 times)

Cervone · « **on:** January 06, 2004, 03:21:00 pm »

Some things I noticed about the depot house... If you're in the house, and look out the window at the spawned guards, they will not come after you. They'll just stand still and point their gun at you, and you can shoot them easily. Another thing, inside the house itself, if there are guards near the stairs, go under the staircase, and the guards will not be able to distinguish that you're under the stairs rather than on the stairs, so they'll run up the stairs and run around in circles so you round em up and kill em with an explosive or something.

I really don't know whether this stuff could be applied to DLTK, but it seems like it could be useful somehow... at least as inspiration for finding more "safe spots" to take out guards.

Illu · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2004, 08:39:00 am »

OK, I've never posted on any of these boards before but I have played Golden Eye since it was first released here in Europe and I still do sometimes.

Most of you who hang around here probably have played and discussed this game to death, almost anything I say has probably been discussed many times before.

But anyway, I was just wondering if you know anyone who has cleared a stage with the hardest settings in the 007 difficulty.

rshepherd1000 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2004, 09:01:00 am »

i have done most of them

but i used the gold pp7!

Illu · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2004, 09:50:00 am »

Well that's pretty good (using the gold pp7)but I meant without using any cheats or extra weapons att all, I'm just wondering because I've done it on the facility.
So like, I'm just wondering if anyone else have done it on this or any other stage, because I know it's probably impossible on most of the stages.
My times can't really compare with the best but I thought that maybe this can.

.. · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2004, 09:53:00 am »

We have an entire league for what we call "License To Kill" settings. The only difference from your settings is Enemy Health, which we put on 0%, so one shot kills them and one shot kills you. The times are incredibly fast for these settings and take a lot of skill and strategy. If you wanna see some LTK vids, hit me up on AIM (comeasur337) or MSN (fallenruby7@hotmail.com)

EDIT: Heres the link to the LTK ranks www.the-elite.net/GE/LTK/ltk.html

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2004, 10:01:00 am »

I'd like to see some 007 max videos, everything to the max. Levels would probably take like 10+ minutes =)
Let's see I think dam can be done.. facility.. surface 1.. bunker 1.. silo would take too long, heh.. frigate.. surface 2.. bunker 2.. so 7 possible I think, but probably all of them would be hell to do.

Illu · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2004, 10:10:00 am »

I probably did it the first time for over a year ago and back then it took about 25 minutes but eventually I was able to do it quicker with the use of better tactics.
Just clearing any stage seemed impossible at first with these settings but then eventually I did it on the Facility.
Facility 007 difficulty with all settings on max without any cheats.

My statistics were:

Time: 08:57

Accuracy: 74,9%
Weapon of choice: KF7 Soviet

Shot total: 346
Kill total: 41

Head hits: 56 (35%)
Body hits: 32 (20%)
Limb hits: 60 (38%)
Others: 11 (7%)

uTrev · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2004, 01:24:00 pm »

That's very impressive, Illu. However, in many ways playing with ED1000% takes less skill than fast LTK, because you'd only be facing one guard at a time.

Illu · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2004, 01:46:00 pm »

I've downloaded some of the videos on the other difficulties, Agent, Special Agent and 00 Agent so I know the skill of the worlds greatest Goldeneye players.

I was very impressed by them, they even use explosions and stuff to go even faster than you normally would.

So I mean, these world records are so well established that I wont even think about breaking them.

But I thought that there are probably not many who has tried to play 007 with max settings so I thought that would be great to do and maybe I can get others to get interested in it too.

So I was kinda wondering if it's worth to try and put this on the internet (When I clear Facility with 007 difficulty with the settings on max in 08:57) so that everyone who want can see it.
I've actually recorded it, I've got it on tape so if I can put it up somewhere, do you think it's worth it.

.. · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2004, 01:55:00 pm »

We're always open to seeing vids of this kind of stuff

Illu · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2004, 02:02:00 pm »

Some people could probably do it better than me if they tried.

It's not really as impressive as those LTK times seems to be but if no one has done it yet then I thought that people maybe want to see how I did it.

It's really a whole lot about how it's done, you know tactics, you have to be quite skilled but the most important is the tactics that me and my brother came upp with, those are what makes it possible.

If I can put that video up then maybe when people see it hopefully they can do it even better or maybe clear some other stage with these settings.

(I've done only Facility but I'm thinking about the possibility about doing another one)

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2004, 02:34:00 pm »

yeah.. I'd like to see videos =)
and we need to think of a name for these settings.. it's called Dark LTK on pd.. what about... Bond LTK?

youseinthehouse · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2004, 02:55:00 pm »

That sounds crazy. Definitely put up that video online, illyu or whatever =P

Illu · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2004, 04:04:00 pm »

OK, great! There seems to be people interested in seeing it, so I'll see if I can put it online.

I've never put anything online before so actually I'm not quite sure how I'll do it yet, I may need to get some stuff too so it might take a week or two.

I'll tell you when it's up so everyone who want to can see it.

.. · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2004, 04:06:00 pm »

If you have any questions about capturing, just ask in this topic and someone should be able to help you. Also, if you need a place to host the vid, contact me on MSN @ fallenruby7@hotmail.com

bcks · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2004, 05:14:00 pm »

Btw, you show your setting on this vid? Yeah i think it would be cool to see it, one level that could be excluded is streets, no way anybody will beat that.

Jimbo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2004, 06:50:00 pm »

I somewhat doubt this achievement, because...

1. I doubt you have enough PP7 Ammo to take out the number of guys there really are in this level.

2. Even if you used Mines for big groups of guards, you'd eventually have to use the KF7 which is loud...Judging by the amount of time you seem to have played GE so far, I doubt you can pull off 15 PP7 headshots on one guy, notice why I say you don't have enough ammo to take every guy out that's necessary.

3. Loudness of the KF7 results in lots of cloned guards after you. With 100% reaction speed from these guards, you would eventually get overwhelmed and killed.

Vid online = I am pwned, but until then I think you're full of crap.

Southward · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2004, 09:28:00 pm »

ditto

bcks · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2004, 09:58:00 pm »

I took the toilet guy out, after 2+ mintues of slapping him. :lol

Lets see how this goes.

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Boss · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2004, 03:02:00 am »

Uh, ever heard of blowing up boxes for lots of ammo? I could see it being done without getting a lot of head shots for Facility 1000/1000/100/100.

Nodjo · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2005, 08:49:00 pm »

Egypt Dark LTK 2:12

The run fuckin SUCKED, it took me like five bullet to kill samedi 1, i believe smoke was gone when samedi 2 died, and samedi 3 was ok...
It was the 2nd run I could reach samedi 3 and the time took me like half an hour. Then I tried to improve it cause I was damn sure (i still am) that i can break 2:05. But i figured out that I may have been lucky on my 1st completion, cause there was no 2nd completion, I died at samedi 3 like 5 or 6 times.

But I'll keep trying

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #23 on:** June 15, 2005, 04:04:00 am »

1:36 has been done on Egyptian Dark.

Nodjo · « **Reply #24 on:** June 15, 2005, 08:44:00 pm »

Man you're right. 1:36 has been done on Egyptian. 1:33 too...

:eek

EGYPTIAN TEMPLE DARK LTK 1:33 :eek

Too bad, I didn t record it :'( :'( cause I played like four or five hours and at some time the batteries of my cam became dead so i had to charge them and I didn t stop playing during this.

I just recorded the final screen... dunno if that proves anything though :'(

i used to put my cam on that stuff to record (vcr won t record): geelite.free.fr/aire%20de%20jeu.JPG (note: the CD player is used to charge 2 of the 4 batteries i use in my cam' lol)

what i recorded :rolleyes

: geelite.free.fr/Alexandre...oof....AVI

As far as I remember, the run was clean, i did a few minor mistakes. But I've been really lucky on samedi 3. You know, the best he can do for you is staring right in front of him and shoot 4 times, gently not moving his head.... He did this... twice in a row !!!!!! And then he was almost done !!!

bcks · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2005, 08:52:00 pm »

Whoa

, Great job

, i belive you

, but i still think you should try for 136 or lower vid to really prove yourself fully.

Nodjo · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2005, 09:08:00 pm »

Yeah I may try for lower than 1:33... i'm even sad not to have the vid for MYSELF! I even have no picture of the screen cause I recorded it to show the settings and then "oh, I can't have the 1:33 print on the screen again" lol (my brain was working strangely)

but i may not spend much time into improvement considering how lucky i was on samedi 3 (however this is my... 2nd completion ever, and I died at samedi 3 like 20+ times)

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2005, 03:17:00 am »

I told you you would regret if you don't tape the end result!

Anyway good job, I hope you can reproduce anything close

Nodjo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2005, 09:01:00 am »

This failed run would have been sub 1:30 for SURE
geelite.free.fr/Alexandre...failed.AVI

I'm confident, I think I'll improve my 1:33 today (and it'll be taped...)

Illu · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2005, 09:02:00 am »

Did you fell at the end of that vid or something :lol

well good job anyways

Good to get some competition for this level, good luck if you try again, hope you beat it again and get the whole run recorded.

EDIT: Talking about that "kind of proof" vid

Wabs · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2005, 12:45:00 pm »

Yup good job Nodjo.
I've always been bad at GE, but this dark ltk mode looks really fun, I think I'll try to play some GE again this summer, mostly dark ltk.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2005, 12:49:00 pm »

I can't wait to see some results

Wabs · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2005, 12:58:00 pm »

lol well that's only a terrible player saying he'll try dark ltk, nothing special

Anyway, I've always hated agent and I liked playing PA (or 00), so I guess dark ltk will be nice to play.

Illu · « **Reply #33 on:** June 18, 2005, 12:03:00 pm »

Suddenly just felt like ranking the beaten Dark LTK levels by difficulty and I wrote some comments to them too. Hardest levels on top and with smaller number, no1 is hardest and no14 is easiest, ok here goes...

Beaten Dark LTK levels difficulty ranks

1. Caverns - Takes so long, so many guards, the toughest BA guards too, the fear of failing at the end is great because it often takes 35-40 min getting there, have to handle lots of pressure for a long time.

2. Jungle - Would rank this below Aztec if it weren't for the hellish ending, it gets pretty random there sometimes too, have to be prepared to lots of stuff and be quick too, often you don't get more than one chance of surviving the ending guards after taking out their BA. Lost of pressure on getting things right when taking out the ending guards BA, need to blow them all up quickly and run to the beginning of tunnel where guards most likely come running.

3. Aztec - Takes longer than jungle but with patience I think this is just a bit little bit easier since the beginning is the hardest part, the big room with the drones is difficult but with patience it can be done easier than the Jungle ending I think. Not as much pressure as on Jungle, can take all the time needed to make sure the guards behind the crates are dead and luring Jaws to the door trap works very consistently when you know how to do it. Not to say that it's easy or anything though, this level still goes under the very hard league for sure.

4. Dam - Takes awhile to learn all the stuff, the tunnel turns into the tunnel of hell on DLTK with body armor guards, I've done this about 5 times by now though and the fastest in 16:44, that's still a long time to under the pressure of the difficulty of DLTK though.

5. Bunker 2 - Need to lure the guards to the cell, many risks and with the knives and stuff, once PP7 is obtained then there's not much worries of the guards getting alerted anymore, still under the pressure it's pretty hard what's left to do.

6. Surface 1 - This needs some luck with getting the guards to be klobb guards, but with my strat they don't have to be all klobbs, can shoot guards in the comms (where it's safe) and hope for them to re-spawn as klobbers. When things get right with the luck factors and stuff then it's just running mainly, but the opportunity to finish this level takes awhile to get and then it can still get screwed up under the pressure and stuff.

7. Bunker 1 - Takes some head shooting, knowledge of guards placement and stuff and not making too much noise, need to know the ways to take out the guards, not that hard once you know how to do this. Not really harder than the two levels below, mainly this just takes a bit longer than Facility and is just a little bit more complicated than Frigate.

8. Facility - With the hardest strat it takes awhile to get a completion but here I'm talking just about the difficulty of beating the level which is still hard though and when altering the strat to a slower one there's often some unpredictable things happening but after awhile you learn this level, it's pretty short compared to some of the above so that makes it lots easier to beat too.

9. Frigate - The guards can't kill the hostages on DLTK unless they pull a nade, just a matter of placing yourself right, lure out guards, not that many of them either, can be done w/o nade too.

10. Statue - Trev guards can take awhile to survive, I have a strat for it but you can just take a chance and run to the middle of them, escape and get lucky with them not hitting you, that happens rarely though but otherwise this level is cake really.

11. Egyptian - Last Baron can be troublesome at times, so this needs some attempts but it's pretty quickly done once you get the pieces together.

12. Runway - If your tank skills suck then this can be a bit hard at times, otherwise you just need to know where to shoot and it's all over in a minute or so.

13. Archives - With the right strat this can be ran trough after a few attempts

14. Surface 2 - Just run and don't get too close to the guards, they need to get pretty close to you before they shoot.

Vulpex · « **Reply #34 on:** June 19, 2005, 08:49:00 am »

Sweet time Nodj! It's just over half my time.

Oh noes, Come's post with chat excerpts about my being the worst at every DLTK level got lost.

Taking it a little farther, in the best possible taste. lol

1. Silo - Really, could never be done. The challenge is to see just how far you can get without dying before the time runs out. Ilari holds the record.

Completions: 0

2. Control - Think of protecting Nat amongst all those guards. I'd rather not. That there'd be enough ammunition is just inconceivable.
Completions: 0

3/4/5. Cradle - Don't even go there. I've always loathed the dudes in sunnies.
Completions: 0

3/4/5. Depot - More places to hide than in Cradle. That's about it.
Completions: 0

3/4/5. Streets - There is, after all, a tank at your disposal. But once more the time limit bars the way.
Completions: 0

6. Train - Apart from Silo, the DLTK level not yet beaten which does not exhibit guard regeneration/respawning. Finite number of guards, though very confined spaces. Just envisage doing the Dam underground for a whole level. :X
Completions: 0

Admittedly I've left outs many aspects. Guys feel free to rank the above 6 as you see fit.

7. Caverns - Completions: 1 [Ilari]

8. Jungle - Completions: 1 [Ilari]

9. Aztec - Completions: 1 [Ilari]

10. Dam - Completions: 3 [Ilari, Wouter, Andrew]

11. Bunker 2 - Completions: 2 [Ilari, Wouter]

12. Surface 1 - Completions: 1 [Ilari]

13. Bunker 1 - Completions: 5 [Ilari, Brandon, Wouter, Andrew, Trent]

14. Facility - Completions: 5 [Ilari, Trent, Wouter, Andrew, Garrett]

15. Frigate - Completions: 4 [Anton, Ilari, Wouter, Andrew]

16. Statue - Completions: 2 [Wouter, Ilari]

17. Egyptian - Completions: 5 [Alexandre, Ilari, Wouter, Trent, Andrew]

18. Runway - Completions: 6 [Brandon, Trent, Wouter, Robert, Ilari, Andrew]

19. Archives - Completions: 7 [Henrik, Trent, Brandon, Ilari, Wouter, Andrew, Robert]

20. Surface 2 - Completions: 10 [Trent, Brandon, Alex, Bryan, Ilari, Wouter, Tyler, Andrew, Garrett, Robert]

& Ilari, what's up with your post count? In your profile it says 452. :eek

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #35 on:** June 19, 2005, 08:57:00 am »

Obviously Illu doesn't post at our boards alone. The post count in the profile is his post count with that account, and the post count on his messages are the post number at that community.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2005, 02:30:00 pm »

20. Surface 2 - Completions: 10 [Wouter, Trent, Brandon, Alex, Bryan, Ilari, Tyler, Andrew, Garrett, Robert]

Nodjo · « **Reply #37 on:** June 19, 2005, 08:10:00 pm »

Who's in charge of updating the dark ltk records page? I can see there has been no update during half a year :lol

Vulpex · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:27:00 pm »

Steve updates those. You know there was no activity really between the last update and your initial post.

Wouter, you're not 1st place on Su2.

I was listing the names in the order they appeared. :lol

Good call though. But you'd be peeved if I wrote:

10. Dam - Completions: 3 [Andrew, Ilari, Wouter]

Wouldn't you? Especially since my time is so bad.

Actually there is one other thing that needs to be updated, and that's a link to Ilari's DLTK page from the Rankings.

.. · « **Reply #39 on:** June 19, 2005, 11:55:00 pm »

I'll update again once Kent or Shep PR.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2005, 04:49:00 am »

wtf Andrew? I don't get you. I thought you were listing people on who had the fastest time. therefor I would go first on Surface 2. You do not have the fastest (known) time on Dam Dark LTK.

bcks · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2005, 05:52:00 am »

Andrew doesn't have aim wouter, so he wouldn't know you have a vid for it, also you hadn't posted it till recently either.

So why don't you have aim Mr. Kent?

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2005, 06:09:00 am »

I DID post it and the updater is supposed to check the dark ltk topic when there's new posts.

Vulpex · « **Reply #43 on:** June 27, 2005, 06:51:00 am »

Yes, I'm sorry Wouter. I didn't know.

Nice one Come, maybe I'll play again soon... :lol

I should really try Statue.

Sorry I don't aim Brandon. I wasn't even sure what it was until last year. :lol

I think the computers at uni support im services; I'll see what's available and maybe I can sign up for aol im or msn.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #44 on:** June 27, 2005, 11:32:00 am »

You can make up for it by editing your post correctly

Illu · « **Reply #45 on:** July 12, 2005, 07:45:00 am »

Here's the results of what I've been working on in the past few days.

Control Dark LTK 16:33

I've been thinking this is probably possible since Bryan discovered that trick during the protection. Luring the BA guards to try shooting you trough a glass so you only have to worry about the guards that go after Nat. If you just get those guards to stay behind the glass then it's not hard at all to protect Nat, she doesn't die that easily either on DLTK.

So I just needed to figure out some way to do the rest of the level and the hardest part is really the end, which make this harder to complete than it othervice would have. It's not that hard to get to the protect part, the ending is just a bit hard with so many guards running around looking for you while you try getting to the elevator.

Anyway, this was one of my most exciting runs, got hit 4 times actually, 2x by drones and 2x by guards. Drones don't kill by one hit on DLTK as many of you know by now and not guards either if you have BA. So I made good use of both BAs, I got boosted into the elevator at end and finished with 0 bars of health.

I'd put this below Dam as the 5th hardest level.

Cervone · « **Reply #46 on:** July 12, 2005, 09:52:00 am »

WTG!

Run was sweet, the last few minutes (Nat protect and the finish) were very cool and exciting.

bcks · « **Reply #47 on:** July 13, 2005, 12:22:00 am »

Thats pretty sick Illu.

matt8k · « **Reply #48 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:04:00 am »

Freakin' Awesome :eek

not only is it a good time, but dark ltk is just so damn hard

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #49 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:37:00 am »

Hey, awsome job illu, really glad to see this. Bryan and I were thinking this would be possible so long as his hat guard trick worked. We had some ideas for the end; I wonder what exactly you did there.

Do train next, see my strat. If you can save nat without killing xenia, like Wouter did in his 00 speedrun, it should be very possible.

Are there any vids for silo? I'd like to see how far people can get.

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Author Topic: 007 difficulty: EH 1000% ED1000% EA100% ERS100% (Read 11355 times)