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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: RWG on April 07, 2006, 10:54:00 pm

Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: RWG on April 07, 2006, 10:54:00 pm
OMG THIS IS LAME.

Is it just me, or is bunker 1 00 the most ANNOYING level to speed run in all of GE?  Not the gayest, no, depot 00 and caverns 00 are gayer, but most ANNOYING BY FAR.

I know nothing about the level, so please bear with me and help.

How much of the cinemas do you watch?

Which are the bad cinemas?

When you get a bad cinema, do you immediately quit and restart, or do you play through and try to fluke a no nade run?

When you do get a nade, is it supposed to kill everyone like in Bryan's 1:07, or will you have to kill most guys and its just that Bryan's run was really lucky?

Also, is it normal to mess up on the 3 cams while Boris?  Or do you hit them on time, everytime, even if there are guards there.  If it is normal to screw up, then I assume you go through that (see above) hell again to get to this point again.

Furthermore, how long between nades usually?


Argh, thanks if anyone helps me.  I'm sure Randy will appreciate it. ;)
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Jimbo on April 07, 2006, 11:39:00 pm
How much of the cinemas do you watch? - Watch the cinemas fully. The more you watch, the better the final Grenade position will be if either of the guys pull one.

Which are the bad cinemas?
None, that only applies to SA.

When you get a bad cinema, do you immediately quit and restart, or do you play through and try to fluke a no nade run?
Once again, that is a SA-only concept of bad cinemas. The ONLY cinemas that can be considered "bad" are the ones that show the double doors being opened. That just yields more guards for the Grenade / you to kill.

When you do get a nade, is it supposed to kill everyone like in Bryan's 1:07, or will you have to kill most guys and its just that Bryan's run was really lucky? It usually kills every single guy, maybe leaving one if you're unlucky. You pass 2 guys that pull Grenades (the 2 keycard guys). If the first guy pulls it, about half die; if the 2nd guy pulls it, all die.

Also, is it normal to mess up on the 3 cams while Boris? Or do you hit them on time, everytime, even if there are guards there. If it is normal to screw up, then I assume you go through that (see above) hell again to get to this point again. You CANNOT screw up the 4th cam (SA) for Boris. You have time to work with for the other 3, just be patient. Just make sure you get it done.

Furthermore, how long between nades usually? 15-20 minutes, Bunker 1 isn't too bad compared to S2 / Cradle.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on April 08, 2006, 12:38:00 am
watch woll's 1:10 ;)
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 08, 2006, 04:20:00 am
meh, 120s using n00b strats are good enough for me... for now.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Wouter Jansen on April 08, 2006, 07:10:00 am
the 'bad cinemas' on SA can be made good too by watching the 2nd some, just the cameras are in a tougher position and it doesn't seem to always work.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: DYM on April 08, 2006, 07:24:00 am
I get grenades on bunker 1 00 once every 3 hours or so.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Jimbo on April 08, 2006, 10:32:00 am
Wouter, watching some of the 2nd cinema is really almost impossible to pull off. You need almost 22 speed 1st and 2nd cameras to get a shot at the 3rd like normal.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Wouter Jansen on April 08, 2006, 11:53:00 am
not really, watch:

Wouter Jansen - Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0.23 (failed)(6).avi
Wouter Jansen - Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0.23 (failed)(7).avi
Wouter Jansen - Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0.25 (3).wmv
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Infected Mind on April 08, 2006, 02:22:00 pm
i played those double door cinemas as well if u just watch out a bit of the 2nd. its not even that hard, just from the vids ive seen everyone does the 2nd cam extremely slow, and loses time for the 3rd to be done quick
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Wouter Jansen on April 08, 2006, 03:34:00 pm
same for me, I'd be too lazy to quitout any/every time those cinemas come up anyway.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Jack-sn on April 08, 2006, 03:55:00 pm
I think I'm going to leave streets for a while and try this =D
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: Lark on April 21, 2006, 08:41:00 pm
Instead of making a new topic, I just decided to revive this one.
In surface 2, how often does a nade show up?
Also, do I have to watch any cinema? Thanks!
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: RWG on April 21, 2006, 09:30:00 pm
Watch the first until the letters some up, then press A.  Watch all of the second also.

You'll get a nade every 15-20min or so, on average.
Title: Questions from the heart of a n00b
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 21, 2006, 10:21:00 pm
I really don't think that cinemas matter on S2. I do a different cinema start and get the same time between nades.