Post by: Cervone on January 06, 2004, 03:21:00 pm
I really don't know whether this stuff could be applied to DLTK, but it seems like it could be useful somehow... at least as inspiration for finding more "safe spots" to take out guards.
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 08:39:00 am
Most of you who hang around here probably have played and discussed this game to death, almost anything I say has probably been discussed many times before.
But anyway, I was just wondering if you know anyone who has cleared a stage with the hardest settings in the 007 difficulty.
Post by: rshepherd1000 on January 30, 2004, 09:01:00 am
but i used the gold pp7!
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 09:50:00 am
So like, I'm just wondering if anyone else have done it on this or any other stage, because I know it's probably impossible on most of the stages.
My times can't really compare with the best but I thought that maybe this can.
Post by: .. on January 30, 2004, 09:53:00 am
EDIT: Heres the link to the LTK ranks www.the-elite.net/GE/LTK/ltk.html (http://www.the-elite.net/GE/LTK/ltk.html)
Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 30, 2004, 10:01:00 am
Let's see I think dam can be done.. facility.. surface 1.. bunker 1.. silo would take too long, heh.. frigate.. surface 2.. bunker 2.. so 7 possible I think, but probably all of them would be hell to do.
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 10:10:00 am
Just clearing any stage seemed impossible at first with these settings but then eventually I did it on the Facility.
Facility 007 difficulty with all settings on max without any cheats.
My statistics were:
Time: 08:57
Accuracy: 74,9%
Weapon of choice: KF7 Soviet
Shot total: 346
Kill total: 41
Head hits: 56 (35%)
Body hits: 32 (20%)
Limb hits: 60 (38%)
Others: 11 (7%)
Post by: uTrev on January 30, 2004, 01:24:00 pm
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 01:46:00 pm
I was very impressed by them, they even use explosions and stuff to go even faster than you normally would.
So I mean, these world records are so well established that I wont even think about breaking them.
But I thought that there are probably not many who has tried to play 007 with max settings so I thought that would be great to do and maybe I can get others to get interested in it too.
So I was kinda wondering if it's worth to try and put this on the internet (When I clear Facility with 007 difficulty with the settings on max in 08:57) so that everyone who want can see it.
I've actually recorded it, I've got it on tape so if I can put it up somewhere, do you think it's worth it.
Post by: .. on January 30, 2004, 01:55:00 pm
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 02:02:00 pm
It's not really as impressive as those LTK times seems to be but if no one has done it yet then I thought that people maybe want to see how I did it.
It's really a whole lot about how it's done, you know tactics, you have to be quite skilled but the most important is the tactics that me and my brother came upp with, those are what makes it possible.
If I can put that video up then maybe when people see it hopefully they can do it even better or maybe clear some other stage with these settings.
(I've done only Facility but I'm thinking about the possibility about doing another one)
Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 30, 2004, 02:34:00 pm
and we need to think of a name for these settings.. it's called Dark LTK on pd.. what about... Bond LTK?
Post by: youseinthehouse on January 30, 2004, 02:55:00 pm
Post by: Illu on January 30, 2004, 04:04:00 pm
I've never put anything online before so actually I'm not quite sure how I'll do it yet, I may need to get some stuff too so it might take a week or two.
I'll tell you when it's up so everyone who want to can see it.
Post by: .. on January 30, 2004, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: bcks on January 30, 2004, 05:14:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on January 30, 2004, 06:50:00 pm
1. I doubt you have enough PP7 Ammo to take out the number of guys there really are in this level.
2. Even if you used Mines for big groups of guards, you'd eventually have to use the KF7 which is loud...Judging by the amount of time you seem to have played GE so far, I doubt you can pull off 15 PP7 headshots on one guy, notice why I say you don't have enough ammo to take every guy out that's necessary.
3. Loudness of the KF7 results in lots of cloned guards after you. With 100% reaction speed from these guards, you would eventually get overwhelmed and killed.
Vid online = I am pwned, but until then I think you're full of crap.
Post by: Southward on January 30, 2004, 09:28:00 pm
Post by: bcks on January 30, 2004, 09:58:00 pm
Lets see how this goes. 
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on January 31, 2004, 12:50:00 am
Post by: .. on January 31, 2004, 12:54:00 am
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Post by: Boss on January 31, 2004, 03:02:00 am
Post by: Nodjo on June 14, 2005, 08:49:00 pm
The run fuckin SUCKED, it took me like five bullet to kill samedi 1, i believe smoke was gone when samedi 2 died, and samedi 3 was ok...
It was the 2nd run I could reach samedi 3 and the time took me like half an hour. Then I tried to improve it cause I was damn sure (i still am) that i can break 2:05. But i figured out that I may have been lucky on my 1st completion, cause there was no 2nd completion, I died at samedi 3 like 5 or 6 times.
But I'll keep trying
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 15, 2005, 04:04:00 am
Post by: Nodjo on June 15, 2005, 08:44:00 pm
EGYPTIAN TEMPLE DARK LTK 1:33 Too bad, I didn t record it :'( :'( cause I played like four or five hours and at some time the batteries of my cam became dead so i had to charge them and I didn t stop playing during this.
I just recorded the final screen... dunno if that proves anything though :'(
i used to put my cam on that stuff to record (vcr won t record): geelite.free.fr/aire%20de%20jeu.JPG (http://geelite.free.fr/aire%20de%20jeu.JPG) (note: the CD player is used to charge 2 of the 4 batteries i use in my cam' lol)
what i recorded
: geelite.free.fr/Alexandre...oof....AVI (http://geelite.free.fr/Alexandre%20Gimenez%20-%20Egypt%20Dark%20LTK%201.33%20kind%20of%20a%20proof....AVI)As far as I remember, the run was clean, i did a few minor mistakes. But I've been really lucky on samedi 3. You know, the best he can do for you is staring right in front of him and shoot 4 times, gently not moving his head.... He did this... twice in a row !!!!!! And then he was almost done !!!
Post by: bcks on June 15, 2005, 08:52:00 pm
, Great job
, i belive you , but i still think you should try for 136 or lower vid to really prove yourself fully.
Post by: Nodjo on June 15, 2005, 09:08:00 pm
but i may not spend much time into improvement considering how lucky i was on samedi 3 (however this is my... 2nd completion ever, and I died at samedi 3 like 20+ times)
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 16, 2005, 03:17:00 am
Anyway good job, I hope you can reproduce anything close
Post by: Nodjo on June 16, 2005, 09:01:00 am
geelite.free.fr/Alexandre...failed.AVI (http://geelite.free.fr/Alexandre%20Gimenez%20-%20Egypt%20Dark%20LTK%20failed.AVI)
I'm confident, I think I'll improve my 1:33 today (and it'll be taped...)
Post by: Illu on June 16, 2005, 09:02:00 am
well good job anyways 
Good to get some competition for this level, good luck if you try again, hope you beat it again and get the whole run recorded.
EDIT: Talking about that "kind of proof" vid
Post by: Wabs on June 16, 2005, 12:45:00 pm
I've always been bad at GE, but this dark ltk mode looks really fun, I think I'll try to play some GE again this summer, mostly dark ltk.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 16, 2005, 12:49:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on June 16, 2005, 12:58:00 pm
Anyway, I've always hated agent and I liked playing PA (or 00), so I guess dark ltk will be nice to play.
Post by: Illu on June 18, 2005, 12:03:00 pm
Beaten Dark LTK levels difficulty ranks
1. Caverns - Takes so long, so many guards, the toughest BA guards too, the fear of failing at the end is great because it often takes 35-40 min getting there, have to handle lots of pressure for a long time.
2. Jungle - Would rank this below Aztec if it weren't for the hellish ending, it gets pretty random there sometimes too, have to be prepared to lots of stuff and be quick too, often you don't get more than one chance of surviving the ending guards after taking out their BA. Lost of pressure on getting things right when taking out the ending guards BA, need to blow them all up quickly and run to the beginning of tunnel where guards most likely come running.
3. Aztec - Takes longer than jungle but with patience I think this is just a bit little bit easier since the beginning is the hardest part, the big room with the drones is difficult but with patience it can be done easier than the Jungle ending I think. Not as much pressure as on Jungle, can take all the time needed to make sure the guards behind the crates are dead and luring Jaws to the door trap works very consistently when you know how to do it. Not to say that it's easy or anything though, this level still goes under the very hard league for sure.
4. Dam - Takes awhile to learn all the stuff, the tunnel turns into the tunnel of hell on DLTK with body armor guards, I've done this about 5 times by now though and the fastest in 16:44, that's still a long time to under the pressure of the difficulty of DLTK though.
5. Bunker 2 - Need to lure the guards to the cell, many risks and with the knives and stuff, once PP7 is obtained then there's not much worries of the guards getting alerted anymore, still under the pressure it's pretty hard what's left to do.
6. Surface 1 - This needs some luck with getting the guards to be klobb guards, but with my strat they don't have to be all klobbs, can shoot guards in the comms (where it's safe) and hope for them to re-spawn as klobbers. When things get right with the luck factors and stuff then it's just running mainly, but the opportunity to finish this level takes awhile to get and then it can still get screwed up under the pressure and stuff.
7. Bunker 1 - Takes some head shooting, knowledge of guards placement and stuff and not making too much noise, need to know the ways to take out the guards, not that hard once you know how to do this. Not really harder than the two levels below, mainly this just takes a bit longer than Facility and is just a little bit more complicated than Frigate.
8. Facility - With the hardest strat it takes awhile to get a completion but here I'm talking just about the difficulty of beating the level which is still hard though and when altering the strat to a slower one there's often some unpredictable things happening but after awhile you learn this level, it's pretty short compared to some of the above so that makes it lots easier to beat too.
9. Frigate - The guards can't kill the hostages on DLTK unless they pull a nade, just a matter of placing yourself right, lure out guards, not that many of them either, can be done w/o nade too.
10. Statue - Trev guards can take awhile to survive, I have a strat for it but you can just take a chance and run to the middle of them, escape and get lucky with them not hitting you, that happens rarely though but otherwise this level is cake really.
11. Egyptian - Last Baron can be troublesome at times, so this needs some attempts but it's pretty quickly done once you get the pieces together.
12. Runway - If your tank skills suck then this can be a bit hard at times, otherwise you just need to know where to shoot and it's all over in a minute or so.
13. Archives - With the right strat this can be ran trough after a few attempts
14. Surface 2 - Just run and don't get too close to the guards, they need to get pretty close to you before they shoot.
Post by: Vulpex on June 19, 2005, 08:49:00 am
Oh noes, Come's post with chat excerpts about my being the worst at every DLTK level got lost. 
Taking it a little farther, in the best possible taste. lol
1. Silo - Really, could never be done. The challenge is to see just how far you can get without dying before the time runs out. Ilari holds the record.
Completions: 0
2. Control - Think of protecting Nat amongst all those guards. I'd rather not. That there'd be enough ammunition is just inconceivable.
Completions: 0
3/4/5. Cradle - Don't even go there. I've always loathed the dudes in sunnies.
Completions: 0
3/4/5. Depot - More places to hide than in Cradle. That's about it.
Completions: 0
3/4/5. Streets - There is, after all, a tank at your disposal. But once more the time limit bars the way.
Completions: 0
6. Train - Apart from Silo, the DLTK level not yet beaten which does not exhibit guard regeneration/respawning. Finite number of guards, though very confined spaces. Just envisage doing the Dam underground for a whole level. :X
Completions: 0
Admittedly I've left outs many aspects. Guys feel free to rank the above 6 as you see fit.
7. Caverns - Completions: 1 [Ilari]
8. Jungle - Completions: 1 [Ilari]
9. Aztec - Completions: 1 [Ilari]
10. Dam - Completions: 3 [Ilari, Wouter, Andrew]
11. Bunker 2 - Completions: 2 [Ilari, Wouter]
12. Surface 1 - Completions: 1 [Ilari]
13. Bunker 1 - Completions: 5 [Ilari, Brandon, Wouter, Andrew, Trent]
14. Facility - Completions: 5 [Ilari, Trent, Wouter, Andrew, Garrett]
15. Frigate - Completions: 4 [Anton, Ilari, Wouter, Andrew]
16. Statue - Completions: 2 [Wouter, Ilari]
17. Egyptian - Completions: 5 [Alexandre, Ilari, Wouter, Trent, Andrew]
18. Runway - Completions: 6 [Brandon, Trent, Wouter, Robert, Ilari, Andrew]
19. Archives - Completions: 7 [Henrik, Trent, Brandon, Ilari, Wouter, Andrew, Robert]
20. Surface 2 - Completions: 10 [Trent, Brandon, Alex, Bryan, Ilari, Wouter, Tyler, Andrew, Garrett, Robert]
& Ilari, what's up with your post count? In your profile it says 452.
Post by: Your Eliteness on June 19, 2005, 08:57:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 19, 2005, 02:30:00 pm
Post by: Nodjo on June 19, 2005, 08:10:00 pm
Post by: Vulpex on June 19, 2005, 09:27:00 pm
Wouter, you're not 1st place on Su2.
I was listing the names in the order they appeared. Good call though. But you'd be peeved if I wrote:10. Dam - Completions: 3 [Andrew, Ilari, Wouter]
Wouldn't you? Especially since my time is so bad.
Actually there is one other thing that needs to be updated, and that's a link to Ilari's DLTK page from the Rankings.
Post by: .. on June 19, 2005, 11:55:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 20, 2005, 04:49:00 am
Post by: bcks on June 20, 2005, 05:52:00 am
So why don't you have aim Mr. Kent?
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 20, 2005, 06:09:00 am
Post by: Vulpex on June 27, 2005, 06:51:00 am
Nice one Come, maybe I'll play again soon...
I should really try Statue.Sorry I don't aim Brandon. I wasn't even sure what it was until last year.
I think the computers at uni support im services; I'll see what's available and maybe I can sign up for aol im or msn.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 27, 2005, 11:32:00 am
Post by: Illu on July 12, 2005, 07:45:00 am
Control Dark LTK 16:33
I've been thinking this is probably possible since Bryan discovered that trick during the protection. Luring the BA guards to try shooting you trough a glass so you only have to worry about the guards that go after Nat. If you just get those guards to stay behind the glass then it's not hard at all to protect Nat, she doesn't die that easily either on DLTK.
So I just needed to figure out some way to do the rest of the level and the hardest part is really the end, which make this harder to complete than it othervice would have. It's not that hard to get to the protect part, the ending is just a bit hard with so many guards running around looking for you while you try getting to the elevator.
Anyway, this was one of my most exciting runs, got hit 4 times actually, 2x by drones and 2x by guards. Drones don't kill by one hit on DLTK as many of you know by now and not guards either if you have BA. So I made good use of both BAs, I got boosted into the elevator at end and finished with 0 bars of health.
I'd put this below Dam as the 5th hardest level.
Post by: Cervone on July 12, 2005, 09:52:00 am
Run was sweet, the last few minutes (Nat protect and the finish) were very cool and exciting.
Post by: bcks on July 13, 2005, 12:22:00 am
Post by: matt8k on July 13, 2005, 07:04:00 am
not only is it a good time, but dark ltk is just so damn hard
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 13, 2005, 07:37:00 am
Do train next, see my strat. If you can save nat without killing xenia, like Wouter did in his 00 speedrun, it should be very possible.
Are there any vids for silo? I'd like to see how far people can get.
Post by: Wyst3r on July 13, 2005, 02:57:00 pm
And about Train, How are you supposed to get past those guards in the end to the boxes without being killed?
Post by: Illu on July 13, 2005, 05:12:00 pm
Though train has been done on LTK, could be possible to kill the guards outside train, the problem has always just been killing both Ouru and Xenia in time. Though it's possible to get Nat out W/O killing Xenia for extra time as Wouter showed in his 00 run. Though at least I can't say much more about that at the moment, I'm onto Depot for now.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 14, 2005, 12:07:00 am
First two rooms are going to be a bitch, the box guards take 5 HSs to get rid of their ba (standard for mostly all box guards I believe) so youll have to be extra good at careful snipering, about half of them can be killed with boxes next to them after their ba is gone but that only saves 5-6 bullets (is box 4 or 5? The non-ba part is 10 more) and its a little more risky because these boxes wont always kill them, with the laser watch, ammo isnt a huge concern. The rest should be ok with the help of the laser watch, it can kill them in a little over a second Id say, and you have lots of room(s) to fall back on After you get all the way to trev room, the door should be shut if you took your time with the 2 black guards. Go to the right side of the door, open it and take off little over half the locks (all that you can without being seen), you have to be about in laser watch range away in order to hit them, ducking can help get you closer, get the lock on the left that you can barely see, behind the corner one, save around 40 laser ammo for the rest. Go in and make quick work of the rest of the locks. Go down the hole and start shooting the right guard in the head (him and left one have some ba) this should attract the middle guard so blow up the box in front of the right guard to kill the middle guard when he runs by, then finish off the right guard. You need to be quick but you should be able to kill the left guard too, 5 HSs, then blow up the box on his left side, or 15 HSs. This can all be done before trev calls time (not sure about left guard but you guys are pretty fast) the train gives you some cover while still allowing you to see and shoot those guards. If you really cant spare the extra 3 seconds to finish the non-BA part of the left guard, you could probably light him up as youre leaving the train for reals later on.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 14, 2005, 12:08:00 am
You should have already obliterated the drones and the pile of boxes, so go up the long way. Shouldnt be any guards left but the last 7 box ones. First youll face 6, I believe the middle right one always starts with no BA and maybe the one to his right also, if you shoot them and they have no ba they will attack you. If you kill them theyll respawn with ba and be normal (wont attack you). You need to get to that middle pillar cave thing. Youll want the middle right guard to be at no ba before you go to it, but Im pretty sure he starts with none (you can still get his ba off from behind the pillar but it takes more ammo and is much harder). The middle right guard wont stop you as the cave makes a large invisible wall for him. The 2 right guards will however, you can either kill them both or wait until theyre ducking or stunned from your hits, then run to the pillar. I recommend killing them both around the same time, 5 HS for ba 10 for non-ba part. Theyll respawn and be back in about 10 seconds. Once behind the middle pillar thing, get the ba off the left 2 guards using the cave wall as a shield, very easy. Do the same for the right 2. The middle right one should have none at this point, now for the middle left. Duck and head out left a little using the metal box as cover from the left 2 guards (I dont think they can hit you while doing this, but you could limb shoot them both before you try or kill them if they can) Then do 5 HSs on the middle left guard or until ba is gone. If for some reason the middle right guard has ba at this point, kill the middle left guard and go out more and get the ba this way, then get the middle lefts ba again. Now place your mines so they can kill many guards and use your GL to start the fireworks. You can at least get 2 for 1 with the mines, maybe 3 for 1 on both, but you still have the GL. Obliterate all the guards this way in 1 second. And get up right near the boxes just out of sight from last guard asap. Might want to have the right side explosions be behind guards to help with this but I think you have until the bodies fade away, so just be quick. Now sniper the last guard and GL him if you wish.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 14, 2005, 05:56:00 am
ps Jungle 00 has been done already
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 14, 2005, 10:45:00 am
Post by: Wabs on July 14, 2005, 12:21:00 pm
Now every new level beaten is amazing.
Post by: Wyst3r on July 14, 2005, 03:32:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 14, 2005, 04:35:00 pm
Post by: Mahrla on July 14, 2005, 05:36:00 pm
Good luck with Depot and Train.
Post by: Illu on July 14, 2005, 06:40:00 pm
Yes any kind of tip could be useful Dan, since it can lead to something even if it doesn't seem that great at first, often the ideas may not originate from me but from other people or something in some way or another.
I can see Depot as possible now though, just a bit hard, it's in the phase where I could say it's been illuminated, this is Dark LTK but I can see the light now and that means I can see it as possible. Most that seem hard is in the end just an illusion and I can now see past those illusions, you may think I'm just trying to be cool now but no, I am cool, I am Illu which may sound like igloo, I am teh snow dome.
hILARIous isn't it
I just feel so philosophical sometimes, wanted to share some feelings yeah
I think I'm maybe trying to find myself and the meaning of life or something, maybe we all are.But now I just cut the crap and go play some more Depot.
Post by: Cervone on July 14, 2005, 09:50:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on July 15, 2005, 03:48:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 15, 2005, 05:11:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 15, 2005, 05:17:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on July 15, 2005, 09:24:00 am
i.e not very likely.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 15, 2005, 12:38:00 pm
Do you really have to face 3 at once? Which 3 who these be? There's a lot of stuff you can do though. Like let only certain guards see you, causing them to fire, delaying their movement. You can also keep 2 guards pinned down at the same time by slapping them. If they don't have ba you can stun them for quite some time with shots espically limb hits.
Post by: Wyst3r on July 15, 2005, 01:03:00 pm
Also, Would you be able to make it to Val before timer ends?
Post by: Illu on July 15, 2005, 01:42:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 15, 2005, 08:22:00 pm
Post by: matt8k on July 16, 2005, 03:22:00 am
So you get past the first 3 guards, then manage to get to Val. I don't see how you could get past all the roadblocks within the time limit...
Taking out the 3-4 guards on each one is insanely difficult, especially with only the kf7 zoom.
And what about the first roadblock, where there's more guards down the street to the right?
Post by: Cervone on July 16, 2005, 03:38:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 16, 2005, 05:51:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 16, 2005, 05:52:00 am
Post by: Your Eliteness on July 16, 2005, 06:20:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 16, 2005, 07:58:00 am
You have to get to Mishkin in about 2:30. I don't know if getting the tank first is feasible. Going out the long way on foot, leaving most of the guards in the tank area behind seems like it might be your best bet. You should be able to get the BA and GL without a problem. Then you might have to use the GL some to get to Mishkin. Then you'll probably need to use the GL plenty to get back to the tank; time is of the essence.
Post by: Illu on July 16, 2005, 10:49:00 am
Did this on NTSC, a little bit less lag at least, not sure about other differenses, mainly I was just trying out it on NTSC and happened to beat it on it. Didn't go to train until exiting the level, took care of the random guards in another way, will be revealed once I get the vid made.
Othervice I'd say this is maybe harder than Control, maybe harder than Dam too, not when I beat it but it's just that some things need to fall into place and you have to get things right on that particular run and it makes it somewhat difficult.
So Control was first new level I beat in a long time and then I do another one just a few days after just like a year ago. I think I was burned out of ideas last year after beating three new levels in less than 10 days, but obviously I managed to get back in business
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 16, 2005, 10:54:00 am
Post by: Wabs on July 16, 2005, 11:12:00 am
Big congrats, I'm so much amazed by dark ltk skills !
Post by: Boss on July 16, 2005, 05:21:00 pm
Post by: bcks on July 16, 2005, 09:31:00 pm
Post by: matt8k on July 17, 2005, 01:25:00 am
i really couldn't see how depot was going to happen. Amazing stuff
Post by: Wyst3r on July 17, 2005, 03:47:00 am
But yea, It's of course alot of skill in it
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 03, 2005, 02:20:00 pm
Post by: Illu on August 03, 2005, 03:14:00 pm
Dunno what I'm really waiting for though, I did three levels last year and I could do three now too maybe and then there would be three left, hmm...
Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on August 03, 2005, 11:24:00 pm
Was Bryan who discovered that trick? Nice job, most useful!
Post by: Illu on August 04, 2005, 08:52:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 04, 2005, 06:05:00 pm
Post by: bcks on August 05, 2005, 02:10:00 am
Post by: Illu on August 06, 2005, 09:15:00 am
Quote
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Im guessing too many @#%$ guards and not enough safe spots to hide.
>bcks<
Yeah, and many of them have BA too, though I'd say I could at least have proceeded with the level if I would have felt like I did when doing Control and Depot. For some/various reason my state of mind is different at the moment and makes it hard to stay focused and motivated.
But I do think that Train is possible.
Post by: Lecmasta on August 20, 2005, 07:45:00 pm
Post by: bcks on August 20, 2005, 07:50:00 pm
Post by: Comet on August 20, 2005, 08:02:00 pm
Post by: deletedprofile.u on August 20, 2005, 08:19:00 pm
Post by: vitor on August 20, 2005, 11:32:00 pm
Post by: bcks on August 20, 2005, 11:52:00 pm
, i ment streets. Scrap my idea for silo dark ltk.
Post by: Wyst3r on August 21, 2005, 03:54:00 am
Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on August 22, 2005, 01:32:00 pm
Really, on Silo there are a lot of soldiers. Kill all of them cost much time.
Post by: Wyst3r on August 22, 2005, 01:53:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 24, 2005, 01:02:00 am
With a rough estimation completing silo in time seems like it might be on the edge of human limits. I'm still not sure how you get past ouru though. Everyone seems to think train is possible. I might try convice people streets is possible by completing various segments of it. I don't see cradle being possible without some new discovery, such as getting all the guards to get stuck somewhere.
Post by: Illu on August 24, 2005, 09:24:00 am
I really can't put this to words, feelings are hard to put into words but I hope you understand
So like bye, or I mean
yeah sure, I'll tell them, not but sure why not me go now 
keep up the good work and bye but maybe the medicine it is but I'm fine but I need some just time time, time and time again... I just think like yeah, so maybe I go now to the, yeah, or something
so good luck! see ya maybe sometime.Sorry if post is weird but I'm weird mood now and I need time to do the right stuff and I can't PR so I need time and I think I shouldn't post this at all but the main thing is dunno.
Post by: Boss on August 24, 2005, 02:46:00 pm
Post by: Illu on August 24, 2005, 03:18:00 pm
yeah I said just drop it... yeah forget it, eraze, gone, delete, backspace I'm back into playing GE now.
I got into the middle of the second car on train, then ammo ended, dunno if I'll be playing more DLTK now though.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 26, 2005, 07:30:00 am
Post by: Vulpex on August 29, 2005, 01:43:00 am
If we count non-completed levels as a 60 minute default time, then you've got a total of under 7 hours! That's over four ahead of Wouter, and it's just over half my time. Hey Henrik, I think the farthest Ilari (= the Elite) got in Silo was to the hall after the second laboratory, and then the time ran out. I've had two or three runs where I could have made it to the second lab but was gunned down prior. So the challenge is: who can reach the third lab before time runs out?
Now that'd be a good vid to watch. With popcorn.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 29, 2005, 03:55:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 29, 2005, 05:55:00 pm
You are a strange man, Wouter.
Post by: Vulpex on September 02, 2005, 05:02:00 am
I am sure Wouter went mad from getting all those hundreds of :54s. That would send anyone round the twist.<-- Wah ha hah! I have more than 10% as many posts as Derek!
Post by: bcks on September 02, 2005, 05:04:00 am
Post by: Vulpex on September 03, 2005, 04:00:00 am
to you too. I still have more than one tenth the number of posts that you have.
Post by: .. on September 03, 2005, 12:56:00 pm
Facility Dark LTK 4:48
Runway Dark LTK 1:55
Surface 2 Dark LTK 2:22
Archives Dark LTK 1:42
Frigate Dark LTK 4:01
Played a bunch of this when my computer/internet wasn't working well for a week. Of course this unwhoard means an update is looming...
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 03, 2005, 01:25:00 pm
Post by: .. on September 03, 2005, 02:00:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on September 03, 2005, 02:35:00 pm
Post by: Boss on September 04, 2005, 12:39:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 13, 2005, 06:04:00 am
Facility: Use the soviet to shoot all the tanks, but do it from the top railing. When the guard come for you let him see you and start to fire, run forward towrds the steps so he doesn't hit you, when he's done firing, step back a bit and repeat. You could leave 2 or 3 of the left side tanks and then run down with a fresh magazine get them on your way to the door, but you have to get there before the guard catch up and shoot you.
Bunker1: After using the data theif run to the large room and then up the stairs to the imedeate right. If you can get there without being seen, all the black guards may run to the end of the large room. Otherwise you can hide behind the small wall in the back of the room your in. Let them fire at you, hide, then dash out right when they stop firing and go all the way to the exit.
Post by: Wyst3r on September 13, 2005, 08:16:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 13, 2005, 08:23:00 am
Post by: Illu on September 13, 2005, 09:14:00 am
- Dark Illu
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 13, 2005, 10:56:00 am
Post by: Boss on September 13, 2005, 03:20:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on September 13, 2005, 04:10:00 pm
Post by: Garretts-007 on September 13, 2005, 05:02:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 13, 2005, 06:25:00 pm
Post by: vitor on September 13, 2005, 10:02:00 pm
What's the current one?
Post by: Illu on September 14, 2005, 08:10:00 am
Post by: Garretts-007 on September 20, 2005, 09:51:00 pm
Post by: Illu on September 21, 2005, 11:02:00 am
Actually I played some myself again.
Egyptian Dark LTK 1:34
I want this record back.
Post by: Illu on September 21, 2005, 02:17:00 pm
Harder than I expected, I had been trying before too without succeeding at all back then, now I got it back though but only by one sec.
Post by: bcks on September 21, 2005, 04:34:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 21, 2005, 04:47:00 pm
Post by: Illu on September 30, 2005, 04:23:00 pm
Post by: Garretts-007 on November 03, 2005, 10:52:00 pm
Bunker1 DLTK 10:34
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on November 05, 2005, 08:08:00 pm
*hasnt seen a vid*
Post by: Nightcom-II on November 05, 2005, 08:31:00 pm
Post by: RWG on November 13, 2005, 05:12:00 pm
Finally did a DLTK. w00t!
Post by: bcks on November 22, 2005, 10:04:00 am
I had what i thought was my first completed run on dark ltk for egypt, but get this, 2 random guards came from both ways to the 3rd barons area, and killed me, after i killed him. Another 1-2 sec and the level would have faded out.
Death time was 1:48. So 143 or lower.
Post by: Illu on November 22, 2005, 11:19:00 am
Post by: Nightcom-II on November 22, 2005, 01:53:00 pm
Post by: bcks on November 23, 2005, 12:45:00 am
Gay @#%$ run, had to go back to the 2nd baron, and kill him for good. Lost too much time, gonna try for lower. I would say i lost about 25+secs combined bettewn the 1st and 2nd baron, the 3rd baron was owned though.
Post by: bcks on November 23, 2005, 07:01:00 am
Pretty good run, lost a few seconds here and there, last baron should have been faster. After killing him, i saw a guard in the distance, and i hide behind the black piller, last thing i saw was a nade fly by, it didn't have enough time to blow up though.
Doubt i will go lower, unless really bored.Post by: bcks on November 24, 2005, 05:02:00 am
Meh run, was bored.
Lost about 4-5 secs on the 2nd baron, costing me a shot at the wr. 1st baron and guards killed where very fast for me. I also got shot right as the level faded, but lucky i had full life and b/a when it happened. So Illu or Nodjo, have many shots in the head does each baron take?
I think.....
1st, 1 head shot
2nd, 4!!!
3rd, 9!!!!!
Correct????
Post by: Illu on November 24, 2005, 09:36:00 am
Post by: bcks on November 25, 2005, 04:49:00 am
For some reason, i thought this run sucked, and i tryed to let a guard kill me after the 3rd baron, but he only got 1 shot on me, before the level faded.
I missed 5 gun shots dureing 1st and 2nd baron, so i blew my shot at the wr there. 3rd was good.Post by: bcks on November 25, 2005, 06:52:00 am
I missed 1 shot on a guard, killed the 1st baron with 2 shots, killed the 2nd baron with 5 shots, 3rd with 12 shots(10 hit)!!!! So i missed a total of 5 possible less shots dureing this run.
Btw, for the 3rd baron, you don't need 9 head shots, on my run i had 7 head,2 bodys and last was either a limb or a body. So it just needs to be 8 heads shots and some change.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 25, 2005, 08:08:00 am
Post by: Illu on November 25, 2005, 08:59:00 am
That might actually be the hardest DLTK record for me next to your Runway 46.
Post by: Wabs on November 26, 2005, 11:23:00 am
Post by: Nodjo on December 03, 2005, 02:43:00 pm
Post by: Illu on December 03, 2005, 02:57:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on December 03, 2005, 06:34:00 pm
Post by: bcks on January 12, 2006, 08:33:00 pm
Took awhile to beat this level, lost time here and there, but overall im happy with just getting it done. I doubt i try for lower. Objective A, completed about 7-8 seconds before i hit the boat.(right as i did the bridge bomb)
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 12, 2006, 11:50:00 pm
I need practise. I wonder if I could do this good....
Post by: DYM on January 13, 2006, 07:44:00 am
Edit: heh, wrong topic
Post by: bcks on January 13, 2006, 09:50:00 am
Also pr'd for fun.
Frigate Dark LTK 2:46*
Run went pretty smothly, cept for haveing to slap one guard of half his life, lost about 10 seconds. Plus hostages completed about 10+ seconds before i exited the boat.
Post by: bcks on January 14, 2006, 05:45:00 am
12 second wait at boat, pretty good run though.
Post by: bcks on January 14, 2006, 09:58:00 am
Failed, damn hostages.
Post by: bcks on January 15, 2006, 03:45:00 am
11-12 second wait at boat, gay hostages, again.
Post by: Illu on January 15, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
I know Brandon yeah I wasn't gonna play this yet but I got bored of Archives and were having too much fun with this. The DLTK ranks will be updated soon too so I just thought I'd post, make me pay by beating this
I'll make this vid after you've beat this, either that or if you don't beat this, or maybe I'll just go for lower.EDIT: Your 2:32 must've been really good though considering how long you waited at the boat. I can't see myself getting much lower than 2:20 considering all the stuff that can go wrong and so on. I had no wait at boat on my run and 2:26 was my fastest fail too.
Post by: Lark on January 15, 2006, 07:18:00 pm
Is it different from License to Kill?
Post by: RWG on January 15, 2006, 08:15:00 pm
Post by: deletedprofile.u on January 15, 2006, 09:29:00 pm
Post by: Lark on January 15, 2006, 09:45:00 pm
Post by: .. on January 15, 2006, 10:14:00 pm
Post by: bcks on January 16, 2006, 01:56:00 am
Frigate Dark Ltk 2:15*
Slight tweakage of strat, not much. Hostages happen to complete on my best run ever.
Nothing bad happened on my run, everything went my way. Objective a completed about 3 seconds before i exited. I highly doubt i could beat this, even if i tryed, and i won't!!!Good luck Illu, i look forward to seeing your run.
Post by: matt8k on January 16, 2006, 03:24:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 16, 2006, 06:27:00 am
Post by: Illu on January 16, 2006, 08:14:00 am
Goes to make my ugly 2:26 run and then soon, soon more Frigate DLTK
Post by: Illu on January 16, 2006, 02:34:00 pm
Egyptian Dark LTK 1:30
Screwed up on a few places, mainly first Baron (two shots missed) last Baron was just the way I wanted, just mostly really stupid like standing shooting 3 slow shots in the wall and stuff. Still though, didn't really get anywhere near Brandons 1:25 thanks to the screw ups and I guess I didn't do the last Baron well enough even though he was being really stupid like I wanted.
Post by: Illu on January 17, 2006, 10:35:00 am
2:05 (00A target time) is like really doubtful, this strat is pretty safe and fast, still died almost 30x going for this, almost killed Trev at the end too.
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 17, 2006, 10:42:00 am
Post by: Illu on January 17, 2006, 11:17:00 am
I'll write 2:43 strat down though, but I won't bother doing it very good just fast ok:
Beginning like normal until keycard guard, kill him with the box next to him and quicky go in. Now throw mine trought the door and blow it on the air, guards should be there if you shoot when you went down the stairs.
I cleared out the first area this way, press comp, those two guards near the lockers blew with mine. Wait a bit for the explotion to stop (otherwise the next mine you're about to throw might not explode) now kill the 3 guards in the tunnel with a mine, need to go back to cover quickly.
Run trough the tunnel now open doors and throw mine to the wall, close door, fire with KF7 to lure guards out and when they're there blow them up. If you did it right all should be dead so you can go to the obj A door, lure the guard with pp7 and kill him with pp7.
Now throw a mine on the wall ahead between the two guards behind that wall thing or whatever (high up) Should kill them and two guards up the stairs. Now head for the labs where Doak hopefully is, be prepared for guards behind corners, may be one or two. You need to get to the lab between where the best doak is (the one with only one scientist) Inside there you can safely take out all the remaining guards with KF7 if you have enough bullets, they should all get lured there when you shoot them with the KF7.
Now all you need to do is look for Doak, if he's there in one of the three spots then just proceed to Trev and blow the tanks with pp7 so no guards don't get alerted (I blew only 3 last tanks with KF7 to get faster time)
Strat discovered by Wouter in beginning of 2004, he got 3:00 with it, this is just slightly different, the beginning mainly.
Wrote it really fast so dunno if the explanation is any good but good luck anyway
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 17, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
I will try this today.Considering that strat, no I don't think 2:05 is possible.... Unless, as has been mentioned before, some really risky move is used....... I'll do some experimenting on it.
Post by: DYM on January 23, 2006, 07:45:00 am
w00t! I can't believe I did it. Took ages, plus I couldn't get it on tape because my disk space ran out. Oh well, Ill have to do it again.
Post by: Illu on January 23, 2006, 09:55:00 am
I really hope he can beat it again though and get it on tape, possibly the hardest level ever beaten, congrats even though you don't have vid.
Post by: Wyst3r on January 23, 2006, 10:13:00 am
Post by: PerfectTaste on January 23, 2006, 11:19:00 am
If you think you can do it again I would love to see the vid. An hour of train, wtf.
Edit: Only Cradle, Streets and Silo left?
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 23, 2006, 11:32:00 am
Like blowing the computers with guards around.
1. You have to make it into the room.
2. You have to make sure there aren't any scientists around
3. You have to watch your back.
With that said, the Silo DLTK completion time will be ~7:25
Post by: Wyst3r on January 23, 2006, 12:49:00 pm
Streets...Im not sure how much time you have but if you somehow avoid the random guards and have RL only roadblocks and use Tank for the remaining guards it could be done.
Cradle, Yeah, The most likely of these three to be beaten.
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 23, 2006, 12:52:00 pm
Though it aint gonna be me.
Edit
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Made it all the way up the first walkway.
Then I got pwned from somewhere.I just now realised how scary this level is. Even the suicide strat is suicide.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 23, 2006, 02:47:00 pm
I think cradle is the least likely to beaten, you've got to hit trev in the head like 80 times plus grenade him, I don't see happening. The only way I see it happening is if you can find a way to get all the guards stuck and have trev grenade himself like 800 times.
Post by: RWG on January 23, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
On cradle, I remember it took 14 head shooting tries (using RCP90
) at trev before he ran down the ramp. I don't know how many nades that translates to. Don't imagine more than 5 or 6.
Post by: deletedprofile.u on January 23, 2006, 05:10:00 pm
Post by: Lark on January 23, 2006, 05:26:00 pm
Once you get that taped please post it.
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 23, 2006, 05:27:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on January 23, 2006, 06:09:00 pm
Edit: Oh yeah, it's 16
Post by: matt8k on January 24, 2006, 01:54:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 24, 2006, 03:32:00 am
Post by: Illu on January 24, 2006, 04:52:00 pm
it's fine now I just needed to you know, but it's fine now, just don't worry about it
Post by: bcks on January 25, 2006, 07:37:00 am
I don't belive train dark ltk was beaten, untill i see a vid of it, i don't care who you are.
Post by: Vulpex on February 12, 2006, 04:10:00 am
Oh yeah, also that must be about the greatest banner I've ever seen Brandon. Did you design it yourself?
Post by: bcks on February 12, 2006, 06:36:00 am
Quote
Quote:
Brandon Sanford, you must be the best GE player ever
Na, i would like to be remembered for the little strats i've invented for alot of levels, and different game style strats i've came up with. Plus an all round player. Too bad i've never found a big strat. Also i didn't make that picture, i simply saw it on another forum, and liked it so much, being a A-team fan since forever, i had to use it.
Post by: Jack-sn on March 03, 2006, 11:57:00 pm
And I Dunno if a PR of 5 minutes in facility is worth something.
Post by: Wyst3r on March 04, 2006, 05:12:00 am
Post by: Illu on March 04, 2006, 11:35:00 am
Post by: Infected Mind on March 04, 2006, 12:40:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on March 04, 2006, 01:54:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 04, 2006, 03:58:00 pm
Post by: Illu on March 04, 2006, 06:09:00 pm
Post by: DYM on March 05, 2006, 05:54:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on March 05, 2006, 08:42:00 am
You'd be very hard pressed to get the extra time though so you can either kill the guards then get back in and do the wouter save nat strat, or kill the guards get far enough away so she doesn't she you. I think the later should be too hard to do.
Just take out half the locks ahead of time, finish the locks and go down for a guard kill or however many you can get, come back and kill oruo, finish the guards and get the F out.
Post by: Illu on March 05, 2006, 10:45:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on March 05, 2006, 10:58:00 am
Post by: Illu on March 05, 2006, 11:03:00 am
like his english is too bad or he just said he can't dunno what's with it but if he beats it again then no prob
Post by: Wyst3r on March 05, 2006, 03:53:00 pm
Post by: DYM on March 06, 2006, 08:19:00 am
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on March 06, 2006, 10:06:00 am
SIG'dAnd no Ace, I'm gonna have to see a vid (LLTK claim) for a time like that.
Post by: Jack-sn on March 06, 2006, 11:07:00 am
I'm late, I gotta run. good bye everyone, post here in four days!
Post by: Illu on March 18, 2006, 06:56:00 pm
Post by: Jack-sn on March 25, 2006, 11:39:00 pm
Post by: Illu on March 26, 2006, 09:32:00 am
Post by: Jack-sn on March 26, 2006, 09:35:00 pm
You did it in 15 minutes, Illu...that's...bizarre, as a matter of fact. I don't think I'm going under 25 never in my whole life.
Post by: RK on March 26, 2006, 11:28:00 pm
I want to beat at least one level on DLTK.
Edit: thanks wouter.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on March 26, 2006, 11:43:00 pm
Post by: Jack-sn on March 27, 2006, 01:58:00 am
tank = more health and mass destruction
Post by: KoritheMan on March 29, 2006, 11:59:00 pm
Post by: Jack-sn on March 30, 2006, 01:42:00 pm
Post by: KoritheMan on March 30, 2006, 09:23:00 pm
Post by: KoritheMan on March 30, 2006, 09:25:00 pm