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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: RWG on November 17, 2005, 06:44:00 pm

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Post by: RWG on November 17, 2005, 06:44:00 pm
HAHA pwned!  I get the topic.
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Post by: Infected Mind on November 17, 2005, 07:05:00 pm
Im going to Toronto as of 11 hours from now.

Ill be home the night of the 23rd

GE will resume when i get back
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on November 17, 2005, 07:19:00 pm
Congrats again Alex, keep geting untieds like that! ;)

Good travel for you :p
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Post by: Wabs on November 17, 2005, 07:19:00 pm
Congrats on those last WRs Alex !
I hope you'll get some more records once you're back. :)
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Post by: Lark on November 17, 2005, 07:24:00 pm
Goose, you couldn't be more right about Wouter. LOL he is definitely mad/jelous about Alex.:b  Wouter is gonna close the door in his room, sit in the dark, and will not emerge until he gets his 1:10 or 00 Agent Frigate:rollin
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on November 17, 2005, 09:10:00 pm
He's not talking about 111, he's talking abut 57. I gotta hand it to you, w00ty, you care about all WRs, no matter who gets 'em.

But I believe the majority of about 95% of the GE Elite say the time should stand. Maybe, let the time stand on the World Ranks, and not on the proven ranks.

If the cinema appears, it means all of the objectives completed. If all the objectives complete, then you should go with the time it displays. If it's because the cart skipped a checkpoint, well, we haven't cared about those checkpoints before, so why should we care about them now?
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Post by: Djie on November 17, 2005, 09:44:00 pm
Because Wouter says so. :rolleyes
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Post by: Infected Mind on November 18, 2005, 05:57:00 am
Im off.

Ill see you all again wednesday night
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Post by: bcks on November 18, 2005, 06:01:00 am
Bye:smokin
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on November 18, 2005, 06:25:00 am
OMG
See you later Alex! I'll have one more WR to show off when you get back. =p
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Post by: typosaur on November 18, 2005, 06:45:00 am
I think this whole issue about the time glitch should be discussed and decided upon by the proof mods. It's stupid that there should be disagreement in whether the time is legit or not, especially since Wouter is a proof mod himself.

You'd also think that a decision about this should've already been made seeing how the glitch has been known for a while.
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Post by: bcks on November 18, 2005, 07:10:00 am
I myself have seen the glitch, well im assuming its the same as this, i had no cinemas on about 5 different runs now. All agent runs, also all bad trev runs too, with a time of 50-53 secs. All with going onto runway afterwards.

I think the glitch has to do with completeing 2 objectives at the last possible tenth of a second. There most likely completing at the same time too. Thats most likely why we never see this glitch on other levels.

I think ryan said he saw it on runway, jumping into the plane and with the battery blowing up very late, would be 2 objectives, that would explain it, and i too think i saw this before on runway sa.(prolly works on runway 00 aswell)

Perhaps we should try and duplicte this gltich on other levels. Completeing 2 things at once as we exit. If it does it on other levels, then the same glitch works on every level, more then likely.;)  Its really not the players fault that the game can't handle completeing 2 objectives(same time) and saveing the new best time, all at once.
I do think its should count on the normal rankings, but wether or not wouter wants it on his proven rankings is his call/has decided on already.
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on November 18, 2005, 07:15:00 am
I agree completely with typo.

Personaly I don't see much plausible reason to why it isn't a legit time.  I think you need to understand how code works to truely make a valid judgement on it's legitamacy.
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Post by: 007-Emile on November 18, 2005, 07:56:00 am
Sup guys, I haven't been around for a while, cus of internetproblems and Im very busy. Today internet is probaby working good again,... thus I came here and saw the WR topic. Alex, unbelievable!

When we first started playing this game you were really the rival for me (at that point)... first the n00b rivalry, then the one after that... we were very tied and both took the lead from time to time.
But man, how much skills you are showing now and BTW have done this whole year.. incredible! No way Ill ever be able to compete with you.
Anyway just wanted to say I appreciate the work you have put into the game and your skills! Keep it up, I for one can actually see you taking 3d place.

Greetz,
Emile
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Post by: Nightcom-II on November 18, 2005, 10:01:00 am
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LOL he is definitely mad/jelous about Alex.


I thought Wouter told you not to put words in his mouth.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 18, 2005, 10:43:00 am
"If the cinema appears, it means all of the objectives completed."

There is no outro when this glitch happens.

"I think you need to understand how code works to truely make a valid judgement on it's legitamacy."

That's what I've been saying all along.

PS I don't care about the normal rankings, so I don't care if it counts as legit there.
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Post by: Illu on November 18, 2005, 12:04:00 pm
on Statue you don't get a cinema if you go WR speed though, you return so fast to the exit after picking up the FR, it saves best time though

at the moment these time glitches are what they are and people have slightly different opinions about them, hmm yeah dunno what else to say :p
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on November 18, 2005, 01:01:00 pm
So you won't mind you got... BALEETED!

Also, if you die on cradle, but both objectives completed (the bond falling cutscene), the time gets recorded. Does it count as a PR on the ranks.
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Post by: Nightcom-II on November 18, 2005, 01:52:00 pm
My input is that it doesn't matter as long as it says "Completed" on your objective -- well as it looks like right now.

If there would be some way of getting an objective completed without doing it in the future then an additional Rankings/Level should be added on i.e. Frigate, then it would say "Frigate, Using objective glitch" underneath or something. Well, that's my personal take on it.

EDIT: Now that I think of it... That can't be done since not everyone would use the glitch and it would screw up the rankings... I guess we just have to use objective glitches as well. Lucky or not.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 18, 2005, 04:14:00 pm
people just need to stop lacking timing skills on the facility ending.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on November 18, 2005, 04:27:00 pm
count it as 57.5. Not a WR, but faster than 58.
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Post by: Lark on November 18, 2005, 04:28:00 pm
Yo, bro, update your rivalry dude!
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Post by: Djie on November 18, 2005, 05:08:00 pm
Learn to use Aim GERulz. now.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on November 18, 2005, 05:31:00 pm
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Friday... ish


That doesn't necessarily mean Friday. It means around the time of friday, so it could very easily be Friday afternoon to sunday morning. i.e. Fridayish
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Post by: Lark on November 18, 2005, 06:42:00 pm
Hey, lol everyone go to the Perfect Dark board on gamefaqs and read the topic Speed=skill
Some clown is trying to say speed runs don't take any skill!:rollin
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Post by: Your Eliteness on November 18, 2005, 07:07:00 pm
Those who care are already aware.

EDIT: Also, what we don't need is a flame war.
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Post by: reTylersis on November 18, 2005, 09:32:00 pm
Fuck you, YE.
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Post by: Djie on November 18, 2005, 10:05:00 pm
Flame war? wtf you talking about douchebag?!
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Post by: Your Eliteness on November 19, 2005, 04:38:00 am
The whole thing is settling down... we don't need to heat it back up again. Flame war was probably a bad choice of words.
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Post by: jungle-bell-cat on November 22, 2005, 07:02:00 pm
Wouter is a fa*got, I've concluded.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on November 22, 2005, 07:02:00 pm
Get more info there, JBC. He's so clearly a lesbian.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 22, 2005, 08:21:00 pm
www.sapphicerotica.com
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Post by: flukey lukey on November 22, 2005, 10:51:00 pm
true, i thought i was the only one who knew that site... but you can just be cheapo and download the videos through limewire or the sort.:smokin  good quality and stuff, and free of charge ;)
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 23, 2005, 08:00:00 am
OR just find working passwords and rip the site yourself :D
works better for me :smokin
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Post by: RWG on November 28, 2005, 02:46:00 am
Someone get a WR.  Please.  This is getting boring. :|
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Post by: Infected Mind on November 28, 2005, 03:04:00 am
I lost interest for a while. Dunno when ill play next

sorry guys


who knows maybe tommorow ill play or tonight even haha

but yeah, just not currently in the mood as of this current moment in time
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Post by: Illu on November 28, 2005, 08:47:00 am
don't worry, I'm playing, just that I'm feeling a bit rusty still from getting too much crap times on PD :p
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Post by: DYM on November 28, 2005, 12:04:00 pm
nice WR Illu!
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Post by: RWG on November 28, 2005, 04:52:00 pm
yay Illu!  See, wasn't that an easy WR? :p
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Post by: silver angel on November 28, 2005, 06:45:00 pm
Yeah good job Illu!! You're Teh Illu, your teh snow dome :p
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Post by: bcks on November 28, 2005, 06:50:00 pm
Nice Illu:) , how many 36s?
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Post by: typosaur on November 29, 2005, 08:50:00 am
Congrats, Illu. :)  Mycket bra.
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Post by: Illu on November 29, 2005, 09:57:00 am
Thnx

I only got 36 2x again, the one I posted on duplicated PRs topic and then one that could have been 35 but I got stuck before the dropdown.
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Post by: Wyst3r on November 30, 2005, 04:06:00 am
Geez only 2? Your lucky man ;)  

edit: While checking through old topics i came across this one:

p075.ezboard.com/fperfect...2076.topic (http://p075.ezboard.com/fperfectdarkelitefrm11.showMessage?topicID=2076.topic)

Does this work or what?
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Post by: bcks on December 04, 2005, 06:00:00 pm
Yes, it works, its alot harder without turbo though.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 06, 2005, 04:16:00 am
Well it would definately save some tenths, Whenever poeple start going for 52 this should be kept in mind.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 07, 2005, 06:27:00 am
well done Michael =)
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 07, 2005, 11:59:00 am
His name is Michael?

Well in that case, nice job Michael ;)
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 07, 2005, 01:23:00 pm
Way to go Michelle
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Post by: DYM on December 07, 2005, 01:43:00 pm
Great job Michael!
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 07, 2005, 02:22:00 pm
Congrats:)
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Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 07, 2005, 04:04:00 pm
why does everyone apart from me seem to be able to get this record with comparative ease? :(

Good job anyways :)

Arnie
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Post by: typosaur on December 07, 2005, 04:14:00 pm
Don't forget about me, dork.

Congrats to you, Michael. :)
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 07, 2005, 05:04:00 pm
typo can't get it because I don't have it ;)
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Post by: bcks on December 07, 2005, 05:12:00 pm
Awaits for wolls post.

Congrats on the wr Michael.;)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 07, 2005, 05:54:00 pm
Next objective... Tie all of typosaur's Agent times.

And thanks everyone :D
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 07, 2005, 07:20:00 pm
I made a video of Depot Agent 0:26 with the see through gameshark cheat on.
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Post by: RWG on December 07, 2005, 08:43:00 pm
MOUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSERRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

yahoo!  You're the lowest ranked player by a mile to have a WR.  Nice going and stuff.  Keep it up!

people make it seem so easy because it is.  It wouldn't be easy If I haven't done it 17 times already, in like 1.5 hours play after the first one.

edit - how many 27s and how long did it take?
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 07, 2005, 08:58:00 pm
:0! Awesome.

It took about an hour straight, and every time I missed the train shot or the guards didn't open the gates right away I aborted as soon as I hit the ground (after flying down the stairs) and almost always ended up with a time of 26, so I guess... I dunno, what's an hour's worth of that? =p I know it doesn't take all of two seconds to get from the bottom of the stairs and into the train, but Brandon says that not all of them could have been 26s had I completed them, I dunno.

I'm gonna go after Runway SA next, and then let's see... I've been failing WRs on Cradle A, so there's that. And Archives A.

Hopefully before the next update. =p
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Post by: bcks on December 07, 2005, 09:38:00 pm
Its gotta be easyer with 1.2 then, everybody who uses 1.2, and alex and wouter didn't struggle for it.;)
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Post by: Lark on December 07, 2005, 11:14:00 pm
White goose, i'm ranked lowest when it comes to coming close to get a world record! Yet, he is a close.
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Post by: RWG on December 07, 2005, 11:35:00 pm
2 things

-What do you mean?  I don't understand.

-You have no times "close" to a WR.  Even if you did have a few times 1 sec away like runway 23, dam 54, or arc 17, they are still not close at all to the WRs.  You don't know how far away 1 sec is when it comes to a WR.  Plus, you have no times 1 sec away anyways, so what do you mean?
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Post by: Illu on December 08, 2005, 10:26:00 am
he means only this... wo, hahahaah jskjgkasjgkasjkfdjask :rolleyes  hohohohoho ;)  lalalalalalalalalala :rollin kdjafskdjfkasjdfk >D
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 08, 2005, 01:32:00 pm
Nice job being better than John Kaleta
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Post by: silver angel on December 08, 2005, 03:55:00 pm
Congrats Mouser ;)
I feel more and more alone, I've the impression to be one of the last active players not to get 26 :(
*wonders if I should say my PR is 29...No, no...*
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 08, 2005, 04:15:00 pm
when i first joined elite, took me hours for a 29, and it took a trainshot


hahahahhaahhahahahahahahahha newb hahahahahha *is finished laughing at old self*
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Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 08, 2005, 05:00:00 pm
I have probably close to 60 27s, some with huge stuckage in. Yet, even when i think i have the perfect run (about 6 or 7 occasions up 'til now) 27 still happens for me. Dunno what i'm doing wrong, probably the hut, who knows.

Arnie
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 08, 2005, 05:22:00 pm
Nowadays I'm sure you could pull out a 29 without a trainshot, pretty much on demand no? ;)  I know I can.

And I know what it's like to have speed, then at the end THINKING you have a new WR but then.... OMFG PR.
If someone could take a look at what you're doing then surely we could tell you exactly what you're doing wrong =p
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Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 08, 2005, 07:04:00 pm
I have a vid of a 27 i did a while ago, but it's not a 'good' 27. As in , i identified that my strafe line was wrong up to the trainshot, corrected it in later attempts, and still got 27.

Arnie
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Post by: RWG on December 08, 2005, 07:51:00 pm
watch my 26 for a stuck on the building door and a crap turn up the stairs.  Good strafing though.  Very easy record.  Someone get 25 please.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 08, 2005, 08:33:00 pm
maybe if I can bother :p
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Post by: RWG on December 08, 2005, 08:43:00 pm
teh mouser pwns!  Yea mousah!
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Post by: Boss on December 08, 2005, 08:44:00 pm
Nice job in getting 2 quick WRs. :)
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Post by: bcks on December 08, 2005, 08:47:00 pm
Damn you on fire Michael. :smokin  
Quick, go for 103.;)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 08, 2005, 09:17:00 pm
I would just like to say that there's a WORLD of difference in that one second, just like on any other time I guess.
Also, the use of lookdown can be incorporated into some hardcore strategy (Cradle). But you all knew that already. =p

And thanks everyone. :D  I dunno what to do next, maybe some Perfect Dark or I'll just play for points.
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Post by: bcks on December 08, 2005, 11:51:00 pm
Go for your first leaderboard, runway.;)
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 09, 2005, 04:08:00 am
You can't use lookdown on Cradle cause it makes Trev go uber-slow.

Nice job getting the wr's so fast Michael. Btw, You only need 3 boosts for 23.

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Post by: Wabs on December 09, 2005, 03:59:00 pm
Yeah, congrats Mouser, you're doing great ! :)
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Post by: silver angel on December 09, 2005, 05:34:00 pm
Wow very impressive Mouser! ;)
Are we the witnesses of the birth of a new great player ? :p

For Depot, I acknowledge that I haven't played the level (in agent) for a time now, and I think I could easily do 28 with a trainshot. But not 27 though, I'm not skilled enough.
I *may* be able to record me during one week during the Christmas holidays, so yeah, why not a time on Depot agent ? :p  (even if after all my new unproven PR, it sounds weird to do a Depot 28 vid, that would be nice if you could tell me what it is worth in reality :)  *fears Alex's reaction*)
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 10, 2005, 12:53:00 am
shut the fuck up, GErulz
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Post by: RWG on December 10, 2005, 12:59:00 am
mouser, you are a @#%$ pimp.  Thats insane.  It took me 1.5 months to do what you did in 3 days.  Go out tonight and get laid.  Honestly, you will.  Keep it up.

at least alex and I have 1.1 canadian record still :p
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Post by: Ngamer on December 10, 2005, 01:18:00 am
Lark: DO NOT POST IN THE WR TOPIC.  It's really not that difficult.

Oh, and congrats Mouse!
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Post by: Lark on December 10, 2005, 01:33:00 am
Sure thing Jon.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 10, 2005, 08:10:00 am
Well done Michael, if not alone for pulling off playing 19 hours in a single day :eek
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Post by: Illu on December 10, 2005, 10:52:00 am
yeah yeah yeah yeah YEAH! :smokin
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 11, 2005, 07:52:00 am
I always knew Cradle would be one of the most tied wr's one day but i never really belived poeple would start getting it so frequently.

Awesome job Michael!

Btw, Cool stuff that you went from 37 down to wr in like a day?
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 11, 2005, 11:17:00 pm
Very nice Goose. :)   Go for lower! ;p

Edit: Sorry sorry, I'm Mouser over at Alex's. :D
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 12, 2005, 04:57:00 pm
This is Alex this time :p


Nice work Ryan!, I need to get that one someday :)
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Post by: bcks on December 13, 2005, 08:26:00 am
Nice Illu, i guess you gave up pd.:b  Might aswell stick with what your better at anyway.:smokin
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Post by: typosaur on December 13, 2005, 08:46:00 am
Congrats, Illu. :)
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Post by: silver angel on December 13, 2005, 01:05:00 pm
I just remember not so far ago (one month or so), when you told us facility was one of your worst level, and your best on agent 51... You've made so much progress, it's really hard to believe...Congrats Illu! ;)

Oh and also congrats to Goose for Caverns! :)
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 13, 2005, 01:10:00 pm
Geese and Igloos, the best winter combo ever!
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Post by: RWG on December 13, 2005, 06:44:00 pm
nice Illu!  I admire that time a lot more that other people.


So many 4+way tieds now.  What the hell.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 13, 2005, 07:01:00 pm
Facility is indeed one hard bitch to crack.

Congrats Illu :)
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Post by: Boss on December 13, 2005, 07:35:00 pm
The days of BBWJ are in the past.  Maybe by 2010 that will return, or not.  I think players are just on much faster learning curves these days.  Congrats.
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Post by: mrsooreams on December 13, 2005, 10:50:00 pm
Only Train and Egypt 00 and Caverns SA remain locked in BBWJ. How long before they fall? Good to see that, while Wouter remains in hot pursuit of Brian, players lower down continue to chase Wouter. How long before Brian comes out of retirement to return to full strength? Exciting times indeed.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 14, 2005, 12:32:00 am
I might get 211/less and 47 egypt sometime, could fall whenever i become active again
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 14, 2005, 03:45:00 am
Yeah 2:11 should definately have been tied by now. 1:43 is way more difficult then that one.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 14, 2005, 05:29:00 am
that's funny, because 1:43 was always more likely to be beaten by me.
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Post by: Boss on December 14, 2005, 10:57:00 pm
It seems that waiting outside like I did on Cradle 35 gets you a slower Trev.  It seems that it takes him longer to get to his spot if you watch him go into the door.  Compared mine to Graham's and Wouter's and both of them had better Trev.  The best strat, then, is to hold full speed somewhere so that you aren't in view of Trev after he goes in the hut.  I'm starting to believe 34 is possible now.
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Post by: RWG on December 15, 2005, 01:25:00 am
I think you might be right.  I wait where you wait.  Much more consistent head shots though there.  I don't know how you would time a full speed run in though.

And with 36 on SA/00, 00 is way harder.  Drones are more accurate, first guard is way gayer, and stuff.  But come Xmas and VCR, I'll likely be going for at least 35/36/37.  We'll see how 36 on 00 is though. ;)  

Yea, my 37 SA today I did almost a 180 turn to throw the nade at trev, and anticipated the last door being open losing a tad.  Priming at the top of the ramp with a quick death thus door open (which can't be too hard) is pretty guaranteed 36, if not 35. :p
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 15, 2005, 04:38:00 am
tss.. as if you need that open door.
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Post by: bcks on December 15, 2005, 08:27:00 pm
Nice Dan its been awhile:smokin , its bryan turn next to make a comeback wr.:lol
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 15, 2005, 09:07:00 pm
Or time for me to get a WR...
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Post by: RWG on December 15, 2005, 10:11:00 pm
:eek   I hate how good players say train 00 2:11 sucks.  I think its awesome :p    nice job.

and yea, get one thomASS :p
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 16, 2005, 12:17:00 am
Haha my ge files erased themseleves again,   2 times on that cart now

only things of note on it were frigate 24, i think thats it lol


otherone with all my recent stuff on it still there though ^^
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 16, 2005, 06:11:00 am
OMG Congrats Alex! :D  I suck at that stage lol
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Post by: bcks on December 16, 2005, 06:30:00 am
Finaly got it, Alex!:smokin
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Post by: silver angel on December 16, 2005, 08:38:00 am
Wow!!
I just didn't have time to realize Dan got a new WR, that Alex had already tied Bunker 1 SA 0'23...

When I read the other day that there were only three BBWJ left, I just couldn't realize it, because in my mind, there always were something like ten or more. I really don't adapt myself to this new era, and I have stayed inconciously to Bryan best age (not that his era has now gone, but he has now less untied and less WRs), with anyone having untied except Bryan and Wouter, and anyone tieing something before both Bryan and Wouter get it (except for Bunker 1 SA if I'm correct).
I just can't come back (*hopes this expression exists*) from the fact that now there are only two BBWJ left. so congrats Dan, I think 2'11 is kinda good for a WR, even if 2'10 might come one day.
Alex, 0'23 is insane, so yeah very good job on this ;)

When I discovered the elite (about one year ago), I thought everything was over, and just believed there wouldn't be any WR beaten or even tied, the game becoming too old and best players having already said what they had to say. I was totally wrong, and even if I hardly accept that Bryan and Wouter can be beaten on some stages, I'm glad to see there's so many activity nowadays. The trio (Illu, Alex, Cervone) has showned far more than what I could ever imagine so...
Go Illu, your turn now!!! :D  ;)
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Post by: GoldenGreg007 on December 16, 2005, 09:49:00 am
nice records, guys.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 16, 2005, 10:33:00 am
I tip my hat to you, sirs.

<3
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Post by: Illu on December 16, 2005, 10:56:00 am
Pretty cool that the last 5 WR posts are by 5 different people and none of them is Bryan or Wouter.

Nice going Dan!

And impressive WR tie Alex, congrats!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 16, 2005, 02:08:00 pm
The reason for less and less BBWJs is simply that I am not trying to tie his times, but have better untieds as my first priority. That probably makes it harder for Bryan to tie my untieds, but eventually I'll tie his maxed untieds, and tie/beat his other times. But this era.. I'll hold it back for now. Tieing WRs is almost meaningless, because those are already done before. You could look at it the same way as when going for the same untied you already have.
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Post by: Boss on December 16, 2005, 05:20:00 pm
I agree with Wouter there.  I'll be probably trying for mostly untieds myself once I get going again with a tied now and then.  Untieds just bring a much better feeling compared to tieds.  The goal should be to concentrate more on the elite total time from here on out.  I'll still try for points though, but just not quite as much as I used to (was my top priority for both games before).
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Post by: RWG on December 16, 2005, 06:41:00 pm
:eek  at Alex

Thats the first 3 way tied that wouter doesn't have a share of, I think I've ever seen.


And you guys ^^^ can get untieds and still gain points and stuff, since the other would be dropping 3 points each time.  Plus, its cooler for us to see. :D
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Post by: Lark on December 17, 2005, 01:51:00 am
Nice job Bryan! Good to see your playing GE again.:D
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Post by: Boss on December 17, 2005, 01:55:00 am
Yeah I held onto that one for a while.  I actually got this the same day as 1:07 believe it or not (Oct 28 ) .  That's why I moved to 00A so soon.  I thought I needed to come back with a bang one way or another.  Not that it is an insane time, but one I'm certainly satisfied with given that I failed mostly 104s and not much under that.  I did fail a 101 with rushing the last hostage taker along with a couple 102s not rushing him.  The run is ok for the most part except that I didn't warp the pipes well, didn't strafe the area after that too well, did get the next door open, plus the last stairs before the final ramp I missed the turn the first time.  1:02 easily went out the window because of that.  Obj A was up before I got to the last ramp I believe.
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Post by: Lark on December 17, 2005, 02:00:00 am
Well, yeah but still it's another untied. Hey do you have a vid for it yet cuz I really wanna see that 1:03 run.
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Post by: Boss on December 17, 2005, 02:02:00 am
Hopefully I can get my capture card going over the break so I can make some vids.  If I still can't by then I may have to send the tapes off to someone again or get Dan Edeen to make them.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 17, 2005, 02:07:00 am
That's both awesome, and awesome.

No hoarding. :p
igotarcha16aweekago
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Post by: Your Eliteness on December 17, 2005, 02:58:00 am
Mouser, I have a habit of highlighting posts.
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Post by: RWG on December 17, 2005, 02:59:00 am
Thats incredible.  1:03 is very good and allows very little error with lots of guard skipping.  That's sick.  I can say no more.


:eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek

congrats
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 17, 2005, 03:06:00 am
:o

Go Bryan!
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Post by: DYM on December 17, 2005, 03:47:00 am
Great Time Bryan!
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 17, 2005, 04:06:00 am
Hot Damn Mother Fvcker.

It's awsome to see GE on such a tear.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 17, 2005, 04:51:00 am
Solid :D
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 17, 2005, 05:26:00 am
Awesome stuff Bryan! Finally SA is also in the area it's supposed to be(Well not "finally" since you did it ages ago, which also is a nice pwn)
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Post by: Boss on December 17, 2005, 05:33:00 am
The time on paper is solid, but the run itself isn't exactly too solid.  I certaintly am happy with it though given all the gayness.
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Post by: matt8k on December 17, 2005, 06:18:00 am
:smokin
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Post by: bcks on December 17, 2005, 07:24:00 am
Nice Bryan:smokin , why the whoard?|I
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Post by: silver angel on December 17, 2005, 08:45:00 am
Very very nice Bryan :hat

I understand what Wouter and you mean for the untied, and lowering the world overall is a great aim. But I still hope you'll play "for yourselves" in the future, and devote time for times you know you can achieve, but that recquire hours of playing.
Besides, I know really wonder which World Records can be beaten...Maybe Aztec 00? Caverns 1'23? Train 2'11? Facility 0'57? Surface 2 1'32? Cradle 37?
I just can't imagine going on the Wolrd Rankings and see Facility 00 0'56...
Anyway, keep working guys, you all make an awesome job ;)
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 17, 2005, 09:12:00 am
yeah, congrats again, Bryan ;)
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 17, 2005, 09:18:00 am
I'm still waiting for Wouter to beat Facility A.  Illu getting it on his worst level is maybe all the motivation he needs...
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Post by: Axel A on December 17, 2005, 11:39:00 am
hoarding is gay
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Post by: Illu on December 17, 2005, 12:01:00 pm
1:03 is nice, congrats Bryan!

Frigate is probably a worse level for me now than Facility, I've been training facility enough that I could maybe do an untied on SA or 00A once I can fully concentrate on it again, for sure I'll go for 57s at least. And yeah 46 on Agent can probably happen, my run wasn't the best I've had but I had perfect exit timing, for sure 46 will need an really insane run though.
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Post by: mrsooreams on December 17, 2005, 01:06:00 pm
I agree that lowering the total time is a definite priority right now. For example, now Frigate 23 has been done, does anyone really want to spend another 120 hours doing it again? Probably not. Of course that was Wouter's tactic all along. But with a lot of long-held times falling recently, I think pushing ahead with lowering the total time is the most important thing right now. Maybe when we hit another "wall" in terms of total time, we can go back to scrapping for points. Special congrats to Brian for a superb time.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 17, 2005, 03:15:00 pm
Facility belongs around 55 on sa/00, with the new trev strat, and better overall skills

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Post by: RWG on December 17, 2005, 04:03:00 pm
has anyone else yet noticed frigate is again a 3 way different people untied?  Looks like it could stay for a while with these new times!
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 17, 2005, 04:19:00 pm
*giggle* Only Alex knows of my whoard. Your statement was so wrong, Goose.
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Post by: Saint Shang on December 17, 2005, 04:27:00 pm
Well done all those who`ve gotten WR`s. 8)
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Post by: Illu on December 17, 2005, 05:20:00 pm
I think 56s are gonna be hard enough for anyone on Facility SA/00A, luck factors; Dr Doak and Mr "good" Trev will make sure of that. I think good Trev doesn't even save a sec, maybe only 0.5, SA and 00A are mean to me but hmm.. yeah, crap I'll probably have to settle with 57s.
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Post by: RWG on December 18, 2005, 02:00:00 am
you're on fire dan!  :p
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 18, 2005, 02:32:00 am
Good job Dan! :D
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Post by: Boss on December 18, 2005, 04:13:00 am
It saves almost 1 sec I believe.  Glad you finally got that 35. :p   I played some today and regularly had 36 pauseouts at the top of the hole with closed door once I got used to it.  Unfortunately I have about 0 consistency so far in terms of completing Trev.
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Post by: typosaur on December 18, 2005, 10:32:00 am
Congrats, Dan. :)  Also congrats to Bosshardt for the Frigate SA untied, seems like a pretty solid WR considering the amount of gayness that can possibly occur in that level.
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Post by: Illu on December 18, 2005, 12:57:00 pm
good I got that 35 cuz 36 is really starting to drop in value now
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Post by: DYM on December 18, 2005, 02:54:00 pm
Good Job Dan
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Post by: Boss on December 19, 2005, 05:17:00 am
35 will drop in value soon too. :evil
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 19, 2005, 05:47:00 am
I knew it. Here I thought I was the only one going for it. Think I'll be following far behind, Bryan? :p
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Post by: Boss on December 19, 2005, 05:53:00 am
You could beat me to it even.  Your 35 was VERY CLOSE I think.  If not for that backboost you may have fluked it from 36.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 19, 2005, 05:58:00 am
I almost cried in happiness right about now.

So I'm going for it. And if you mean the backboost when I first entered the hut, that almost always happens. So I figured I'd use it to stabilize myself as I went for the console.

Otherwise it's difficult for me to turn fast... If this is what seperates 34 from 35, then we're going to have to do without that (probably mostly me).
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Post by: Boss on December 19, 2005, 06:03:00 am
Yeah I meant that backboost.  I don't recall any other ones from the hut on.  Do you have aim?
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 19, 2005, 06:11:00 am
I do - BabbelTheFish :)

However it's unfortunate that I can't be online at the moment, my ISP is doing weird things with their network again. >_< But that's what it is, I'll connect as soon as I can. :p
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 19, 2005, 11:35:00 am
omg illu can't be stoped.  This makes me want wouter to get 46 even more.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 19, 2005, 01:14:00 pm
maybe it's just me but I haven't seen any 35s that looked close to 34.
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Post by: Illu on December 19, 2005, 03:05:00 pm
it probably saves some at least to do the hut all the way down the ramp in left strafe and killing Trev in left strafe... like Michael, that really was a nice run, I myself wouldn't probably thought that 34 would be possible if others hadn't started to say so
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 19, 2005, 03:23:00 pm
I think 34 is possible just very unlikely. I'd say it would require a nade-console strat.
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Post by: typosaur on December 19, 2005, 03:38:00 pm
Congrats, Illu. New WR posts seem more frequent than PR posts these days. That's whack.
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Post by: Boss on December 19, 2005, 03:38:00 pm
As far as I know, you don't need a nade to get it.  The main trouble is the fact that Trev is rarely fast enough down the ramp where you can actually have a decent shot at him going so fast.
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Post by: RWG on December 19, 2005, 06:00:00 pm
There are two ways to kill trev no? The way Wouter and I use (right strafe from the top of the ramp) and the way I've seen Bryan, Mouse and Graham use (trev is running away, while in left strafe)  There are also two ways to wait for trev at the start.  Pretty much any very good run with fast trevs will do it.

Honestly, watch mouser's run, and you know we've all had faster trevs at the start, better boosts off the console, and no backboost from the drone.  Any run like that should do it.

I just hope you guys wait until after christmas to go for it, so I can get it too. :p
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Post by: Boss on December 19, 2005, 06:26:00 pm
I dunn how you guys are getting dupe 35s.  I just go too fast for Trev most of the time where 35 chances seem next to none.  That and that fact I can't find Trev's head worth a @#%$ yet.
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on December 19, 2005, 06:49:00 pm
Incredible active on these days guys! Many WRs in few days, good job for everyone :D

Hey, and about Cradle. I don't know if it really help but, Ryan and Bryan, are you holding the strafe at the stairs while Trevelyan enter in the hut? So you can run to kill him with max speed.

I ask because didn't see Wouter doing this on his 0:35.
Or you already are doing that? Wouter's vid was the only 0:35 I saw.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 12:34:00 am
Trev is just slow to get down that ramp, usually if your full strafe he isnt vulnerable >_>

slowpoke^^
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Post by: Boss on December 20, 2005, 02:28:00 am
Damn that was a sweet run.  I basically did it exactly how I envisioned it.  I got the Trev running cinema, which to me seemed to get better Trevs on the average.  He was one of the best to the hut for sure.  I used my lookup thing just like on the 35 vid.  It seems to get me the most consistent Trevs in the end.  I went by the rail as most of the late 35s have.  I double shot Trev in the hut, no back by the drone.  I took the turn to console a little wide, but got a clean boost.  I did all that in left strafe.  I strafed full down the ramp.  As I spun, I nailed Trev in the head with 2 bullets as he was just about to go to the right.  The ending was smooth aside from turning slightly left a little bit early before the stairs.  I knew once I landed on the platform I had it for sure.  I ended up watching both cinemas.
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Post by: bcks on December 20, 2005, 02:38:00 am
Sweetness!!!! :smokin :eek
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Post by: RWG on December 20, 2005, 02:40:00 am
@#%$ YOU BRYAN!  @#%$ YOU!! >:  >:  >:  

Nah, jokes, but honestly I felt like I was going to throw up when I saw that. :|  

That's ridiculous.  WTF.  Honestly WTF.  Thats insane.  I dunno what to say.  OMG.  I can't believe it.



On the bright side, my 35 is no longer a WR thus I am claiming it which puts Brandon on the leaderboard like he wanted.  ;)  


oh yea, CONGRATULATIONS THATS AWESOME
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Post by: deletedprofile.u on December 20, 2005, 02:42:00 am
Damn, good job Bryan!
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Post by: bcks on December 20, 2005, 02:44:00 am
Quote
Quote:
On the bright side, my 35 is no longer a WR thus I am claiming it which puts Brandon on the leaderboard like he wanted.


It won't work now, but i did gain something better from that.:)
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 20, 2005, 02:49:00 am
I never doubted bryan knew what he was talking about more than anyone, but still, that's major wow.

And wow that's a nice lego A team.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 20, 2005, 03:04:00 am
holy crap. Nice work Bryan.
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Post by: OO on December 20, 2005, 03:08:00 am
:eek  That's amazing Bryan... Congrats! :eek
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 20, 2005, 03:35:00 am
Sick. Just sick.

I mean, damn... That's monumental. I came to this forum and I saw your post in the WR topic and I just thought... "omg he did it". :lol  Damn good stuff.

I want your tapes Bryan :p
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Post by: DYM on December 20, 2005, 03:49:00 am
Great Time Bryan
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Post by: Boss on December 20, 2005, 03:54:00 am
There's a good chance you might end up with my tapes.  I would say it took about 15 hours to do.  I didn't even get another 35 since I was focused on going as fast as possible and shooting Trev at the bottom of the ramp in a pure luck way.  I just think if you are getting 35s over and over you probably need to go faster earlier on or else use the left strafe through hut and down ramp strat.  Trev should rarely get to the bottom of the ramp faster than you to where you can shoot him.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 20, 2005, 03:56:00 am
Wow, Bryan did a "Bryan"!

Incredible job on that Boss.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 05:06:00 am
Bryan Always Seems to Amaze Me.

Very Impressive WR :)


I want to start a "donate to Bryan so he can get a webcam fund" soon

lol

anyone intersted?

Would help him prove PAL stuff in the future, as well as get vids up sooner, rather then later even though the quality would be less, until the run is actually captured
:hat
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Post by: GoldenGreg007 on December 20, 2005, 06:07:00 am
BRYAN RULES!!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 20, 2005, 07:09:00 am
That's good, I don't even need to play with you still alive!
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 20, 2005, 08:03:00 am
He will always be our humble bossgod.
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Post by: Your Eliteness on December 20, 2005, 08:21:00 am
Screw Santa, I want Bosshardt to come to my house for Christmas.
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Post by: Illu on December 20, 2005, 10:51:00 am
yeah, what else is there to say... :eek  :eek  :eek  :eek  :eek
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Post by: marcbruton22 on December 20, 2005, 11:28:00 am
Well done Bryan!
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Post by: mrsooreams on December 20, 2005, 02:40:00 pm
Awesome, Bryan, just awesome. Is that another Agent level maxed?
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 02:45:00 pm
Its maxed for sure
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 20, 2005, 03:04:00 pm
you sure?
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 20, 2005, 03:08:00 pm
yes
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Post by: typosaur on December 20, 2005, 03:38:00 pm
wiwf can't beat it. :lol

Nicely done, Bryan. :)
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 03:46:00 pm
Unless theres a strat where u run to the end full speed right to the end,  and trev gets stuck and runs in circles for 6 seconds inside the hut and a nade blows up and the console, and him, and he gets a fast death, then yes its maxed:p
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Post by: mrsooreams on December 20, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
I guess it's impossible to be sure. Some new strat might be invented, or some new breakthrough like lookdown. But with all the current knowledge of this level, no way is 33 possible. We can call it "maxed for now".
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 04:08:00 pm
Note of insanely bad grammar on my previous post.

thats the worst one ive done yet i think lol
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Post by: Boss on December 20, 2005, 05:12:00 pm
Well earned Alex!
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 20, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
Did anyone ever try out strafing into the hut wall while waiting for Trev to start the countdown? (Like suicide strat but you wont wait for nade to blow up).

Edit: Good job on 16 Alex!
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Post by: bcks on December 20, 2005, 05:21:00 pm
Its about time Alex.:b :smokin :)
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 20, 2005, 05:27:00 pm
Good Start, Clean Strafing all the way to the Return of the double doors, did a little wide of a turn there

Got a Boost back to the window.

Clean finish

2200 or so 17s >D
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 20, 2005, 05:44:00 pm
Alex is awesome. Keep up the awesome work. You finally got what you've wanted :b
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Post by: RWG on December 20, 2005, 05:46:00 pm
YAY!  you got it! ;)
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Post by: Illu on December 20, 2005, 07:00:00 pm
yeah finally.. congrats Alex!

...and yeah so many WRs, I guess because so many good players are active at the same time...
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 20, 2005, 07:34:00 pm
no, it's because the WRs aren't that great yet :p

anyway very well done Alex, I admire times that take long to get ;)
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on December 20, 2005, 08:48:00 pm
You are great Bryan :eek  
Congrats! Hope you get 0:35 SA/00 as soon as possible.

And congrats to Alex too, finally you got it! Well done! ;)  

Edit: Time to Brandon go for 0:36 on Cradle A, at least... :p
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Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 20, 2005, 09:21:00 pm
OMFG Alex you finally did it!!! <3333

Arnie
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 20, 2005, 10:04:00 pm
Holy shee-it, he did it!!!!!!!111111111111111111one
Awesome awesome, well-deserved I say. ;)  Although I knew it was gonna happen soon :D
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Post by: Jimbo on December 21, 2005, 01:22:00 am
Over Christmas break I think Jimbo needs to bust out SOMETHING...we'll see if have the skillz for 47 Facility :(

Good job Bryan, and definitely Alex too, sucks your 16 got overshadowed by something bigger though, both rule!
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Post by: Illu on December 21, 2005, 10:37:00 am
hehe... yeah you could have had 47 on one of your Agent speedruns :eek  

I'm struggling to get 57 on 00A still, having more trouble with that than 47 actually, it shouldn't really be that hard but damn :rolleyes   sometimes feels like I could get 56 even but I think I've run out of good doaks or something :\

would be my 2nd 300 point level, I've had streets before..
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 21, 2005, 12:03:00 pm
Given that Wouter was only able to mass tons of 00 37s.  That 36 must be a very good time.

Mouser=phenom

I'm pretty sure this is the greatest speed running community ever.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 21, 2005, 12:27:00 pm
Man, I hate this day, First 16 gets tied and now i loose my cradle wr? :p  

No Seriously, Awesome job on 36. 37 had to be beaten someday.

Oh btw, ANOTHER 3 diffrent player untied level :eek
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 21, 2005, 12:38:00 pm
Alex, can you update my times page for me please? :D   I believe I gave you the FTP stuff, I hope you still have it :p   I can't get into the FTP myself because of my situation, so I gotta paste it here. Code is at the bottom of this post - just copy and paste, etc.

And this record was insanely difficult. You'll see my smooth awesomeness when I get the vid done. :p   I need sleep right now though.
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Post by: Illu on December 21, 2005, 01:28:00 pm
That's @#%$ awesome Michael! Congrats on a really nice untied!

Cradle SA 0:36 was already considered to be a nice WR so doing it on 00A is really great.

Really rare to see an untied from someone so lowly ranked, Cradle can be such a pain too, ask Dan ;)
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 21, 2005, 01:59:00 pm
Damn. Nice job lately, Mouse!
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Post by: flukey lukey on December 21, 2005, 02:15:00 pm
man, thats awesome!

its funny mouser, we play the opposite levels to each other - i HATE cradle with a passion :D  

Great WR, keep it up
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Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 21, 2005, 02:53:00 pm
Lowest-ranked person to have an untied WR, ever????

Cradle is being raped.

Arnie
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Post by: Jimbo on December 21, 2005, 03:00:00 pm
OMG NO, THAT WAS LIKE MY FAVORITE TIME EVER!! MY FLUKEY UNTIED RECORD I SET IS GONE!! :( :(
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 21, 2005, 03:12:00 pm
Up With Canadian Pwnage!!1


<3 Mouser

Very good :D
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Post by: deletedprofile.u on December 21, 2005, 03:13:00 pm
Good job Alex, it's about time you got 16!

And HOLY @#%$ MOUSER!! :eek  

Quick, someone give me a controller so I can play again!
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 21, 2005, 03:17:00 pm
I cant remember or find that info, I think you only told me as you went on the bus. Ill call later, as your sleeping now, or feel free to call me 254-8786 when you wake up if you still need me to change some stuff

peace:)
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Post by: Boss on December 21, 2005, 04:00:00 pm
36 00A > 34 A in my eyes.  Great job!
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Post by: typosaur on December 21, 2005, 04:17:00 pm
All I ever do on this board these days is to congratulate WRs. Oh well. Congrats on finally getting Archives 16, Alex! Must've felt really good. :)  And congrats to you Mouser, it's totally amazing that you actually untied that record. Sweet to see new people with enough skill and patiency to set new standards in GE speedrunning just like that. Must feel nice to take the GE overall time down a notch? :)
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Post by: Boss on December 21, 2005, 04:30:00 pm
With 2 Cradle untieds in a few days, maybe SA 35 can be fluked soon so all 3 get untied. :lol
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 21, 2005, 04:50:00 pm
I thought SA is untied already unless I missed something.

36 SA took me about 1 hour back then.

00 would never give me a break, all my runs would be opposite-of-straight given a grenade.

36 speed isn't hard, I guess congratulations on getting it to go your way so fast. Now it looks like SA/00 should be 35 anyways, with 34 on agent. agent shouldn't be much more than like .5 faster, I'll be waiting for 35 Michael :p  surely you'll have enough patience for that, right?

The more WRs others get, the less anyone will miss me :)
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Post by: 007-Emile on December 21, 2005, 04:52:00 pm
OMG WTF?!?!

I have no idea who Mouser is (been away too long), but his times are amazing!

OMFG @ the WR's guys!
Before I kinda left the boards I believe I had a talk with Wouter with him saying he would dominate Bryan in a short amount of time. Lol, only thing I see is Frigay 23.

Will be cool seeing this new guy and Alex battle in the top 5.
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Post by: bcks on December 21, 2005, 05:23:00 pm
I call Fluke!!!!!!!@Mouser:b   Why you would do 00 before sa is crazy, it only gets easyer now.:smokin :evil
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Post by: .. on December 21, 2005, 05:56:00 pm
Nice WRs everyone.

If you need a place to host it, Mouser, just send me the vid and I'll find a nice home for it.
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Post by: RWG on December 21, 2005, 05:59:00 pm
Why is my VCR underneath my xmas tree at a time like this? |I

But thats intense.  I would surely go for SA first.  Which I will.  And which you will do likely.  Wow.  Untieds are insane.  Nice job. :)
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Post by: Lecmasta on December 21, 2005, 06:12:00 pm
Holy shiat, great job Bryan, Alex, Mouser.
I want vids, now! :D
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Post by: Illu on December 21, 2005, 06:29:00 pm
35 on A had time to get a bit common at least but still 34 is insane, but if 36 requires a really smooth run, dunno if 35 really can be done with the closed door. I think at the moment it looks like only really low 36 could be possible on SA/00A, it's so damn hard under the pressure too, nades are rare on Cradle.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 21, 2005, 09:19:00 pm
:0 Wow, didn't know such a time would warrant so much attention. ^^ Thanks everyone.
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Post by: RWG on December 21, 2005, 09:43:00 pm
You're 83rd and you got an untied.  On cradle 00 for @#%$'s sakes.  That level is gay.  36 is a @#%$ great time there.  :smokin
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Post by: Lark on December 21, 2005, 10:30:00 pm
Go Bryan, you tied that thing in five seconds. Poor Mouser he spent 7 hours getting that untied!:rollin  
Mouser, you still own!
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Post by: Boss on December 21, 2005, 10:31:00 pm
Waaaaa sweet!  I didn't think those would come so fast.  SA took about 4 hours total and 00A took about 2 hours total or so.  I think after playing for 34 so much I knew better how to play SA/00A in terms of consistency.  I was getting the hut down almost every try today.  SA and 00A both took a few nades a piece to complete.  The door was closed on both runs.  SA I got the nade in the hut, and 00A I got it up top before going to the hut.  Both cases Trev died about 1 sec after the nade blew up.  I may try for 35 for a little while before moving on just to see if I could maybe fluke it. *collapses from insane day of playing*
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Post by: RWG on December 21, 2005, 10:44:00 pm
:eek :eek :eek :eek :eek

I'm more impressed by that 00.  I suck at 00, I can never hit that first guard, and I die at the console always.  I knew you'd get 36 on SA at least, but nice job on both.  :)
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Post by: Lark on December 21, 2005, 10:50:00 pm
I have been working on Facility 00A to improve my "ok" time on it. But, the guards who are in the room across from the stairs that lead toward the bathroom will never open that door! I mean, I never had a problem with this before usually I would plug in 4 maybe 5 bullets with the pp7 and they would come out. But, yesterday I emptied out the entire clip on them and no luck! Note that all my shots were hitting the door.
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Post by: Boss on December 21, 2005, 10:53:00 pm
Yeah, that first guard can be a pain sometimes.  On my 00A 36 run I actually had 2 click sounds after I used up my first clip. :o     I still killed him without getting hit at least, salvaging the run and getting the nade soon after.

To GE rulz: Shooting at the door doesn't do anything.  What matters there is how close you are to the door when you make the shots.
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Post by: bcks on December 22, 2005, 01:03:00 am
Damn sweet Bryan:smokin  :D , going for 35s too?
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 22, 2005, 01:05:00 am
So how was the silo 00 130 vid PNP sent you, Bryan? :b
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on December 22, 2005, 02:01:00 am
Sweeeeeet WRs! Good job Mouser and Bryan ;)

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Post by: Wyst3r on December 22, 2005, 03:49:00 am
Wow, You just...Totally dominated Cradle! :eek  

I was gonna say this a long time ago but, Has 36 been very overrated?

Edit: Btw, How's it goin with the cap card?
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Post by: Illu on December 22, 2005, 10:56:00 am
The speed for 36 isn't that insane itself but doing it on a run when you have the nade is. I've never thought 36 on SA should be as good as the 3rd best SA WR though but 36 is still really sweet, especially on 00A and 35 still sounds like almost impossible to me.

Congrats to Bryan on that impressive Cradle sweep.
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Post by: typosaur on December 22, 2005, 11:01:00 am
Ooooh congrats, Bryan.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 22, 2005, 02:39:00 pm
the only thing that springs to mind is, I've never seen anyone more lucky than you. I suppose you have no sort of spells casted on you.
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 22, 2005, 04:18:00 pm
Luckier then Bryan or Michael?  >D
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Post by: Boss on December 22, 2005, 04:44:00 pm
I would say it's a combination of being lucky and being good.  You've usually lacked the luck part of it Wouter.  When I get both going my way I get on crazy WR streaks.
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Post by: Lark on December 22, 2005, 09:08:00 pm
It might be a netherlands thing. Who knows.
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Post by: bcks on December 22, 2005, 09:17:00 pm
Your just gonna have to move wouter.:b :lol
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 22, 2005, 09:47:00 pm
I'll move to bed now.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 23, 2005, 02:09:00 am
rofl, awesome Bryan, awesome! So I guess if you're gonna send your tape to me I'm looking forward to some awesome stuff. ;p
Otherwise I hope you get that capture card working soon. :p

Aannyways.... I know what's next. *posts WR*
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 23, 2005, 02:28:00 am
wow, on a roll, Mouse! Now just get better at the other levels, I guess :rolleyes
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Post by: GoldenGreg007 on December 23, 2005, 04:30:00 am
i was so pissed when i taped over my runway agent 23, it was ironically when i was preparing my proof tape for lavery.  but man if i got archives 16 and typed over it, i'd probably beat myself unconscious with the damn tape, nice to see you're taking it well mouser. :p
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 23, 2005, 05:07:00 am
think of it as failing 16 then :p

thats just as frustrating ^^
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 23, 2005, 05:23:00 am
What i don't get is how the hell you can tape over a wr? Whenever i get a wr or an exeptionally good time i either use a diffrent tape or either just capture it immideadly. It's crazy to start taping in a point before the actual run.

Anyways, Very nice job getting 16! You're already having more and better wr's then most of the top 20 players which is just amazing.

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Post by: bcks on December 23, 2005, 05:40:00 am
He took half of alex's mojo.:b
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Post by: Your Eliteness on December 23, 2005, 08:08:00 am
When I didn't have my capture card, I'd play 30 mins then rewind. PR eventually in that 30 minute period, then move a few minutes ahead in the tape and start playing for another 30 minutes from there. That way there's at least one PR every 30 minutes, and the most recent PRs are always at the end of the tape.

But if you have a capture card there's no reason why you don't just capture it immediately.
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Post by: Saint Shang on December 23, 2005, 11:24:00 am
Well done Illu, finally got it. Nice one amigo 8) .
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Post by: typosaur on December 23, 2005, 01:03:00 pm
You're insane, Mouser. Too bad you taped it over though.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on December 23, 2005, 01:41:00 pm
good point YE.

It's going to be interesting to see who will win the December player of the month :D
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Post by: RWG on December 23, 2005, 01:52:00 pm
I think my caverns 103 pretty much guarantees POM for me.  :rolleyes

nice job on those WRs guys!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 23, 2005, 02:11:00 pm
as if it isn't obvious who wil get POM. it won't be me.
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Post by: Illu on December 23, 2005, 05:10:00 pm
Damn that 57 on 00A took like 20h |I      I got into some bad periods where I suddenly started feel that 58 speed was hard (got 58 x7 I think) backboosts, stucks, no sign of good Doak on good runs, 00A can really be a pain sometimes.

I kind of started moving on to other levels already, then suddenly tried again and felt really fast, was probably getting burned out before just playing and playing without getting anywhere. Pretty smooth run besides a stuck after warping the last door on that railing, good Trev.

Was really a crappy level for me for some time but now it's my second ever 300 pointer, had streets before.

Someone like Alex might still be better than me on this level though, if you watch our runs then you see that I needed pretty smooth runs for those 57s. I really found 47 on Agent easier than those 57s, I had good doak on both 57s btw, like 60% chanse with the technique I use (maybe) Bryans way.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 23, 2005, 05:23:00 pm
That reminds me of going for...pretty much every pr.

Anyways, Good job on Facility man!
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 23, 2005, 05:40:00 pm
Congrats!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 23, 2005, 07:20:00 pm
47 IS easier
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Post by: TreAKAHotdog on December 24, 2005, 12:53:00 am
gj people

57 is easier, take it from the statue strat masta
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 24, 2005, 09:59:00 am
Sweet stuff Illu. :D  :D  :D   Now pwn some other level ;)  

.....We'll see if I can pull another WR by the end of the month. :p   I'm guessing.... Probably not. But who knows.

Edit:
Okay, I tried to upload my Cradle vid to like three different places (turboupload, yousendit, rapidshare), and all of them never brought up the next page. :\
Like, I'd find the file, hit Submit (Or upload), the status bar would display in the bottom of the window (meaning the file is uploading or trying to upload - BUT I was still on the same page).... But then after that nothing happens. :\  I just finished waiting for an hour and half on another upload attempt.
This sucks so much, I just want everyone to see it already. >X0
And I know the problem (see post in General). I should just go to work so I can get another computer, this one is beyond repair or would take days to do so.

And I think I calmed down about my email. Turns out nobody emails me anyways LOLLERZ
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Post by: Ngamer on December 24, 2005, 05:46:00 pm
Hey there Mousey.  Here's the info for your thengamer.com upload
account.  You get it under one condition... that you

never use rapidshare again!

Please.  Or fileshare, or any of that junk.  If you have stuff like a
house tour, the place for that is thengamer.com/misc, and if you have
new multi player, put it in thengamer.com/GE/multi...
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Post by: 007-Emile on December 25, 2005, 09:22:00 am
OMFGFGFG!!!! @ BRYAN!!

lol, you own the game by far Bryan!
Good job Mouser and Illu as well!

BTW: Have a good Christmas everyone!
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Post by: typosaur on December 25, 2005, 09:33:00 pm
Congrats, Whity!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 25, 2005, 10:04:00 pm
nice, but we really need 1:55s now...
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Post by: Infected Mind on December 25, 2005, 10:17:00 pm
must have had no health left with 8 hits 8o

Nice
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Post by: bcks on December 25, 2005, 11:59:00 pm
Good Jorb Goose, i see the *, so vcr is working good now? Re-did 103 i see?:p  
Did it help what i told ya to do?8o
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Post by: RWG on December 26, 2005, 12:19:00 am
yes, nice speed building.  Got stuck at the wall on SA, otherwise I might've failed val.  The 00 is 156.6ish, and the SA is 156.8ish.  1:55 would be insane.  Let someone else get a 156 to quiet down the LB first. :p    Just 1 more person too. ;)  

edit - Ok, I was way off

SA -
1 guard cinema - add 0.75
2:13.26 switch! :eek
4:50.66 end

so 156.83 total


00 -
1 guard cinema - add 0.75
2:13.30 switch
4:50.76 last visible digit (very close to end, so like .1 maybe)

so 156.69-156.79 total.

Not close to 155 at all. :p
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Post by: Jimbo on December 26, 2005, 05:23:00 am
Just wait, one more person = Jimbo.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 26, 2005, 05:33:00 am
Yeah, both you and Alex should definately get those.
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Post by: Boss on December 26, 2005, 06:42:00 am
White, I don't even remember you getting Caverns 103 the first time.  How long did it take to get the 2nd?  Also those are decent endings on the 156s.  If you got 214 switches you'd probably have a real shot at 155s.
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Post by: silver angel on December 26, 2005, 12:23:00 pm
One week away from from the elite is...full of surprises when we come back!!

Bryan and Mouser answered me in the best way when I asked which actual WR could be beaten...That's just too bad you don't have videos for Archives and Cradle Mouser. Congrats to you two, I'm really looking forward to see these vids of 34 and 36 :)

Also, congrats to Illu, Goose and Alex! It's good to see players finally achieving times like this, particularly when you made something like 2000 times one second more ;)

I'm wondering when for the last time there has been so much World Records in the same amount of time...

Good job everyone
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Post by: RWG on December 26, 2005, 01:20:00 pm
my first caverns 103 was overshadowed by mousers 3 records in 3 days.  Look though, I posted it.  I was surprised I got it again to be honest.  Took maybe 1.5 hours or less.  Right strafe from the start helps me a lot.

On streets, I guess I must have had very good endings.  Those val leaves were crap.  I had many 13.9s earlier.  I've done 1:14 on agent with 3 boosts, so I guess it was all in my great strafing. :p

I'll probably be sending a tape out to someone in mid-january or so, when I get back to school. :rolleyes
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Post by: Axel A on December 26, 2005, 03:06:00 pm
Where can I get the vids of all new guys' WRs?
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Post by: Illu on December 26, 2005, 04:28:00 pm
Well what we're really waiting for is Michaels Cradle 00A 0:36, he has made his Depot 26, Cradle 35 and Runway SA 23 some time ago. We'll have to wait for Ryans vids as it seems, what else is there really? Just getfile someone if you haven't seen some of those I already mentioned, you know, Wouter, Brandon, I have those too.

EDIT: btw Michael, be careful with lowering the cursor on the mission completion screen before pressing A, you seem to be doing that in many vids. There's a risk you might press previous by misstake before showing the time, you wouldn't want anymore accidents like that Arch 16 :p  :\
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 28, 2005, 04:34:00 pm
What was Henrick's strat on aztec that got the close guard to go to the glass everytime with the pp7 noise.
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Post by: RWG on December 28, 2005, 04:38:00 pm
In here (http://p075.ezboard.com/fperfectdarkelitefrm11.showMessageRange?topicID=2591.topic&start=21&stop=40)

I helped too!  :b

plus it doesn't work.  Its gay or something.
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 28, 2005, 05:41:00 pm
Here's a new strat:

Do everything normal untill black room is clear.  Stand on open MF on the right side look down the hallway and fire at least 6 shots.  Switch to pp7 and close the MF, run back and shoot at the close guard to get his attention, go to glass emptying your pp7 clip.  Wait till MF closes, run to hide.  The close guard should run to the glass and the blast room guard to should be following.  Maybe this will make him open it.
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Post by: DYM on December 29, 2005, 07:51:00 am
Well Done Michael =)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 29, 2005, 07:53:00 am
Yeah, it's easy if you get the grenade boost. :D

And as for the upload, it timed out. So I'm gonna disappear for a couple days until I get a lot of good times on CD. :lol  I'll of course check the board every day, although not as often as I was doing before.

It's time I found a job as well.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 29, 2005, 08:07:00 am
or just get on aim more often so I can getfile you for them.. plus some extra benefits perhaps
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Post by: bcks on December 29, 2005, 08:07:00 am
Yeah getting a wr does not = a job.:b :lol

Good job though, let me guess you got it from 58 or 57??;)
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Post by: Your Eliteness on December 29, 2005, 08:16:00 am
Considering he has 0:56 on the rankings and I haven't updated yet, I don't think he did.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 29, 2005, 08:37:00 am
Truth. I went from an easy 56 to that.

Alex should have my 56 vid. :D   I did get it the last time I visited him.

And I'll put a new page on Geocities... Hopefully I can get in there. :\  

Edit:
@#%$
I can't even get into Geocities. >_< This is painful. If anyone wants the HTML, it's in FFA.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 29, 2005, 10:29:00 am
Nice job but...if someone doesn't post a 54 soon i'll be very dissapointed.

About the Aztec strat, Your strat wont make any diffrence spider since you still have to wait for blast room guards to come which we normally do. To save any time at all we have to lure only 1 guard and that as soon as possible.

btw Ryan, If my strat doesn't work every time then you're doing something wrong.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 29, 2005, 11:43:00 am
for the aztec idea I think it should be tried, you don't need the extra exhaust bay guards to arrive, just to have them make extra lag for the close guard which hopefully makes it possible for him to open it, which would be faster.

as for s2 sa, lol @ 54, if the agent strat is done it should be at least 53.
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Post by: silver angel on December 29, 2005, 12:08:00 pm
The day before yesterday, I went on the boards and saw the new Elite prodigy Michael "MouserScribe" Kirkness posting a time that made me breathe: "Damn, this guy finally did a human time. This Surface I 2'09 shows that there are still some levels left where I have something to say - to him". Even if, I have to acknowledge, my poor 1'58 could be improved to 1'56. The day after - yesterday evening, to be precise - I had a look at the boards just as every day, and...also at the "New PR" topic. Man, I just realized I knew anything about life, and above all, I began to wonder seriously who this Mouser was. Today, when arriving I saw his name in the new WR topic, I tought "Is it 1'50?". Not at all, lost. But enough. I told to myself "Now I want to know."

I first thought of the AFD 2006, with Jon preparing it in advance, to say the least. Of course, it needed the help of a man called Michael Kirkness for real, but with times that just didn't match the reality.
I don't know why (actually I think I can find why...), this version didn't satisfied me as well.

I then tought of the greatest whoarding of all time, of a man that played GE a lot until today, and who lately discovered the elite. He found it funny to release his times one by one, making other people believe he was a newbie making wonderful progress...
Once again, this version of the facts didn't have my full approval: why would he have played so much if he didn't know the elite, and how would he have discovered all these strats? (cradle 00 for example). And if he knew the elite, why deprive himself of all these WR for so long?

Finally, I thought of Alex playing a big joke to everyone: a friend of him, Michael, had never heared of GE before this summer. When he saw that he began to get some World Records, Alex - and I don't know if it is the result of a bet lost or something else - just decided to "give" his new PR to this friend. The latter played the trick finely and all the vid stuff would be in reality Alex stuff, who definitely found it funnier to make times under his "new name".

But, in all this, it's not much to say that I'm not convinced - at all - in inventing stories to contend myself.

I finally decided to think that was "The Man with the Golden Hands", or maybe also "The Man who didn't care", because, I'm not the first to notice this: who here, can honestly overtape an Archives 16? Please, ask Alex if you don't know what this time means...

So if you're real MouserScribe, you must be the incarnation of some divinity of gaming, at least in your hands. Your progression is unbelievable (Doing a 1'51 after one day of training is...*no words left*), and even if I don't know exactly when you started to play, I dare to imagine you're one of the last here.
Just Congratulations.


From silver angel with <3

Edit: some of you may think after reading this that I attach too much importance in Goldeneye or something, but that's just that I'm very impressed, and I wanted to write something cool to congratulate Mouser :p . Please don't misunderstand this post.
Btw, I forgot the hypothesis "Mouser got a beta game in which moves are faster" ;)
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 29, 2005, 12:56:00 pm
Trust me Wouter, I already thought of pretty much everything and tried it out. So far nothing has given any special results.

If lag is needed then just skip killing some black room guards or throw some nades or something.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 29, 2005, 01:51:00 pm
it's funny because Archives 16 took me about as long as my first depot 26. (around 3 hours) that's like a cakewalk to me :p
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Post by: RWG on December 29, 2005, 01:55:00 pm
Yea, every 2 hours I would quit Bunker for 20 min and play S2.  I screwed up a few of those.  Maybe I'll follow today.  Nice job in any case. ;)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 29, 2005, 04:26:00 pm
:0! omfg, thanks Silver, very muchly. :D   But I think that you think too hard. :p   The whoarding part made me think. To counter your thinking you could say that I've known about the website since it appeared and developed alongside everyone else, just in the shadows. THUS making me.... Um... Well I hate to say it but "as good as I am". :\   And I don't care much for AFD. :p   Too much cruel and unusual stuff happens. :lol  

Yes yes, I am real. Infact I'm so real, you could poke me and I'd feel it.

As for the taping of the 16, that was stupid, I was tired, and most importantly, it was stupid.
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Post by: Illu on December 29, 2005, 04:44:00 pm
And so it was finally time for the mouse to come out of his hole :p  I've only known of this place since the beginning of 2004.
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Post by: .. on December 29, 2005, 05:59:00 pm
(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-elite.net%2Fcontest%2Fnamed%2Fh3.htm7.jpg&hash=ff534296628c46ed03c7dc3eb01b275e86b1de56)

Did the Bosshardt mouse finally make his true form known????
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 29, 2005, 06:30:00 pm
Henrick, are you able to do my strat?  I can't seem to get your pp7 close guard to work.  The idea is basically do that same strat but luring the blast room guard before hand without the close guard doing anything.  The blast room guard always stops on the MF where I fired the AR, this might not cut it.

This is another strat that I think should work:

Do the same strat above but wait for blast room guard to come around the corner, or close to, so that he sees when you run to the glass and will run to the glass too.  The idea is that the close guard will get to the glass faster than the blast room guard, much like you do with the normal strat but the closest guard is playing the roll of the second to closest guard, if that makes sense, cause the lead guard can open the glass before the others get there.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 29, 2005, 06:35:00 pm
Who says I've known about the site for that long though. ;p I dunno, maybe I have. And maybe I am whoarding. But I'm not. :p
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on December 29, 2005, 06:41:00 pm
noone name "Henrick" around here... :rolleyes
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Post by: silver angel on December 29, 2005, 09:39:00 pm
Quote
Quote:
it's funny because Archives 16 took me about as long as my first depot 26. (around 3 hours) that's like a cakewalk to me :p  


Yeah Wouter but...for you, it's just another story ;)  

I'm glad you liked it Mouser...But we still don't know much about you if I undestand :p  
The only thing I for you wish is that the Sexiest Mouse Alive is only at the beginning of its Goldeneye career ;)  

And nice one Come! I had forgotten this picture!

Edit: 100 posts :)  One seventieth of Wouter :p
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Post by: Cervone on December 29, 2005, 09:57:00 pm
I caked a Depot 26 first try today, after not having played that level in a really long time.
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 30, 2005, 06:11:00 am
Waffle, When you say that you can't get close guard to work do you mean that he doesn't go to the glass at all?
If he doesn't then you should make sure you do these things right:
1: You stand at the glass when alerting him.
2: You use PP7.
3: Mainframe is high enough when you shoot so he doesn't see you.
4: You immideadly leave glass when mainframe is fully closed or very near fully closed.

If you do all these things and it still doesn't work then i really don't know what's wrong.

About the strat, I see your point now even though we only speak about a second maybe. What i don't know though, Is exactly what role the second guard has in the opening process. There's nothing that says lag should make a diffrence, And i always thought more guards opens it more often becouse, There's more of them. Also, The exhaust room guards comes from a greater distance when they see you and therefor has a less exact "last-known-position".
But very well, I could try out your strat and see if i get any interresting results, though i doubt it.
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 30, 2005, 05:49:00 pm
ya the second strat would only be like a second, but the first one would be more.
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Post by: RWG on December 30, 2005, 06:05:00 pm
From what I remember,  you can't alert the exhaust room guys without alerting the close guy.  If you could, this strat would be working by now. :p

However, you could come up with a strat where you alert the exhaust guys (thus the close guy too) with the AR33, close the mainframe on the guy, run to the glass, leave, and the one guy will run to the glass with the other 2 (or 1 I think only gets alerted) guys nearby for the opening.  I don't feel like trying stuff now.  I don't even know if what I'm saying is correct.  Oh well.! :eek :| ;) :p :\ 8) 0] :evil
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Post by: Wyst3r on December 31, 2005, 06:24:00 am
There is one way to alert them, If the mainframe is closed and you stand right next to it on the right side and shoot like a billion shots with Ar33.

Btw, That only gives 1 guard.
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on December 31, 2005, 04:41:00 pm
Congrats Mouser!

Lol, I entered in(on?) this topic waiting Surface 1 SA 1:50

And good job with your 1:51, you got it so fast! ;)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 31, 2005, 06:10:00 pm
Yeah, I want 1:50 so bad ;)
Unfortunately Surface is being bad to me today. :  Oh well.
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on December 31, 2005, 07:26:00 pm
Hey Mouser, I'll add you on AIM, okay? No problems?

Anyway Happy New Year for you, and EVERYBODY!! :D
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Post by: Illu on December 31, 2005, 08:38:00 pm
OH YEAH.. HAPPY NEW YEAR :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Saint Shang on December 31, 2005, 08:46:00 pm
Yeah i know it should be in FFA but its a special occasion.

(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fattrition.org%2Fnews%2Fhappy_new_year.jpg&hash=a484ecc6c2ff549361bc5e6751cbdc78cd052393)

Congrats to everyone for their WR`s and i hope people get some more in the new year.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on December 31, 2005, 09:41:00 pm
No problem Laercio :D  Though I can't be online for a while. I've decided to save up for a new computer. :)
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on December 31, 2005, 10:41:00 pm
You can stand on the open MF and alrert one blast room guard without the close guard doing anything.  You just can't fire bullets near him or let him see you, you can make all the noise you want though.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 01, 2006, 05:08:00 pm
How, Ryan. ;_;
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 01, 2006, 07:37:00 pm
Nicely done!
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 02, 2006, 02:54:00 am
I firmly believe that this time is possible. I have the lines planned out in my head but so far have had no luck in pulling them off. I always blow it after the safe keyhut. Not to mention the one backboost that plagues me every single run as I exit. That's the only line I think is a complete whore. Other than that it's just pure skill.

Note that Lookdown has to be used 96% of the entire run. Far enough down that there's no lag when running across the snow.

Start - first keyhut.
First keyhut - Safe keyhut.
Safe keyhut - Safe hut. (bitch)
Safe hut - Satellite tower inside door
Satellite tower - top of hill where you get about a second to aim and shoot for the four locks with the GL.
pwn warp with perfect fall.

You can warp the ladder while using lookdown, I've tried.

If you don't think this time is possible, convince me why and I won't spend the 20+hours I'm about to spend trying to get it. INEVITABLY SETTING THE MOST INSANE UNTIEABLE NSa RECORD EVER.


Any Ryan... Which guard does that grenade come from? ;)
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Post by: RWG on January 02, 2006, 03:24:00 am
I think cinema timing is needed, and he comes almost on the perfect line you take after the safe hut.  I don't know the cinema timing if it is required (I'm assuming it is.)  But don't try that strat unless you are:

-insane
-intoxicated
-retarded

If you get it, it would be insane. :eek
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Post by: bcks on January 02, 2006, 03:25:00 am
Shouldn't you get 150s before going for 149.:b  For s1 sa/00 any guard(snipers/klobbers), but kf7 soviet guards(the only guards that start the level, that aren't random), can pull grenades.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 02, 2006, 03:29:00 am
Thanks Ryan. Thanks loads. Just to be clear, I'm all three at the moment. :lol

Okay everyone, I'm signing off for now to figure out the puzzle that is Surface I SA. Grenade or no grenade, I'm coming back with a WR time however long it takes.

Thanks too Brandon. :D  I'll get it off the first keyhut guard (one in a billion run).
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Post by: bcks on January 02, 2006, 03:39:00 am
I hope you know only the random guards can pull grenades, snipers and klobbers that spawn only.

Why go for 149 with old strat, when you could possibly do 148 with a nade strat.;)
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 02, 2006, 03:43:00 am
Well I'd just said that cuz I assumed he was the only one in the way 100% of the time, therefore probable that the grenade comes from him.

Hmm... I think I know which other guard to frisk for a nade.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 02, 2006, 03:43:00 am
Way to use your mod skillz, Bryan :smokin
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Post by: RWG on January 02, 2006, 03:45:00 am
I got a nade once, it was funny.  That guy after the safe hut, although the sniper near that strange building with explosives in it seems nade happy.

You'd need to do it with no strafe breaking too.  GL pickup is like 1-2 seconds.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 02, 2006, 03:47:00 am
Bryan, I wanna ask... If IF I do this, are you gonna follow? Or are you picking up on this already :p
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Post by: Boss on January 02, 2006, 04:02:00 am
All I want right now is 219.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 02, 2006, 07:12:00 am
I don't get this, How can this route be faster? And why should it be harder to pull off?

Oh and, Very nice job on 52 Ryan!
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Post by: bcks on January 02, 2006, 09:28:00 am
Yeah i don't quite understand mouser's "new" strat, besides adding massive lookdown.|I
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Post by: Illu on January 02, 2006, 02:23:00 pm
Nice to see someone more tie 52, good job Ryan.
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Post by: silver angel on January 03, 2006, 02:21:00 pm
Yeah definitely good work Ryan.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 03, 2006, 04:02:00 pm
I just got the most borderline Arch A - 16 you've ever seen. I didn't even get excited over it cuz I thought it was just another 17. :p

Oh well. At least I got it taped this time. Capturing immediately.
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Post by: Illu on January 03, 2006, 04:34:00 pm
:eek
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 05, 2006, 05:43:00 am
Awesome job Ryan! :eek
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Post by: deletedprofile.u on January 05, 2006, 05:45:00 am
Goose r win!
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Post by: bcks on January 05, 2006, 05:52:00 am
:smokin
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 05, 2006, 05:55:00 am
Awesome
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 05, 2006, 08:25:00 am
ha, why don't you release the 17?
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Post by: Illu on January 05, 2006, 11:02:00 am
Nice untied Goose!
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Post by: Cervone on January 05, 2006, 01:49:00 pm
Awesome job, Goose! So you just stayed in right strafe the whole time?
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 05, 2006, 02:00:00 pm
I've failed 51 with a switch. :smokin  
Edit: Now that I compare yours with my fail, it's not all that legit. :p  Nevermind that.

Anyways, that's just awesome Ryan. :D   Now if only I can get an untied that's gonna last more than 24 hours. :lol
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Post by: silver angel on January 05, 2006, 05:51:00 pm
I prefer this "pwned" in the WR topic than the first you posted in this topic :p

Seriously very nice time. I didn't think you could do it...

Btw, this is the first new untied WR of 2006...that wasn't too long to come :p
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on January 05, 2006, 06:10:00 pm
:eek :eek :eek

I have no words... Awesome Goose!!
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Post by: Jimbo on January 06, 2006, 12:29:00 am
Man I admittedly struggled bigtime for 0:53, I honestly can't comprehend 0:51.
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 06, 2006, 02:01:00 am
They are completely different strats though. im sure 52s are cake speedwise with peters strat, and 51s not TOO hard using the no strafe change strat and peters throw.

i had trouble with 53 too using the 53 strat, comparing vids you are ALOT closer to the building and ALOT farther past were peter throws, costing you ALOT of time.


thing is, peters throw is probly near impossible to complete in comparison to standard 53 throw, which is bad enough already0]

so all in all, s2 is stupid and 51 is a good time or something.

completely useless contribution by yours truely
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 06, 2006, 02:16:00 am
May I reveal the secret time now, Ryan? 8o
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Post by: RWG on January 06, 2006, 02:51:00 am
I had a hard time failing 53s with the 53 strat.  All I wanted was 53.  If I got 53 I would have stopped.  But then I tried the 52 strat, and found it easier/faster.  Maybe it was only for me.  And stuff.  I don't know what I am saying.  I forgot. :|
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Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on January 06, 2006, 03:22:00 am
When we'll have the video, Ryan? :D
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Post by: RWG on January 06, 2006, 03:40:00 am
have you checked the "new vids" topic? :b
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 06, 2006, 04:55:00 am
That's a great idea by illu, a great time for goose

What are the elite's total times now?
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Post by: Illu on January 06, 2006, 11:02:00 am
Great throw, I think you were just so much further away from the tower than Bryan and Peter, mostly you didn't go so far to the right of the tower for the throw. This is perfect for doing the ending in right strafe from there on.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 06, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
Played around a bit with an emulator and moon jump gameshark code today and made an ugly map of Surface. So i thought i might as well share it:

server2.uploadit.org/file...aceMap.JPG (http://server2.uploadit.org/files/OmegaX2-SurfaceMap.JPG)

Hopefully someone will find it useful.

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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 06, 2006, 02:24:00 pm
That'll probably help with making better lines to shave off a few more tenths, maybe get s2 00 down to 129.
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Post by: .. on January 06, 2006, 05:53:00 pm
00 can go way lower than 129 without even doing anything newer :P
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 06, 2006, 06:26:00 pm
124ish with current strat
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 06, 2006, 07:54:00 pm
*takes back previous statement*
*thinks about a better time to be cut with better strafe lines*
12....2?
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Post by: Saint Shang on January 06, 2006, 09:08:00 pm
Thanks Henrik that should prove useful.
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 07, 2006, 12:22:00 am
students.washington.edu/b...0route.JPG (http://students.washington.edu/blakep/other/surface%201%20new%20route.JPG)

what do you think?
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 07, 2006, 12:27:00 am
I think you can't actually run through the corner of that one hut. :p
And even if you did cut as close as possible to it, there's a 90% or higher chance of getting backed. At least in my experiences there is. I've tried that :p

But thanks for the maps guys, should help some. :D
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Post by: RWG on January 07, 2006, 03:40:00 am
What I think, is after the 2nd cam on S2 00, go left and take the third from over there.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 07, 2006, 06:33:00 am
Wiwf, Isn't that the line we're already using? Though not through the corner of the hut but very similar anyways.

And Mouser, Couldn't you draw the lines you said could get sub 1:50on S1 SA/00A? May be easier to see how it works on a map rather than some describtion.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 07, 2006, 03:19:00 pm
yeah, sure looks like it is.
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 08, 2006, 06:09:00 am
I just drew a straight a line.  It looks like it falls closer to the left side of the hut.  But as you can see the runner distance is so long that the difference in the paths, (left or right side of hut) become really small, we're talking like .3 seconds max.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 09, 2006, 04:20:00 pm
Nice job Mouser ;)
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Post by: Lark on January 09, 2006, 04:44:00 pm
Hell yeah Mouser! Get 55 :p  
You really should reveal your strat if it is as good as you say. Keep it up!
Geez since your making a massive rise, I loose points everywhere!:eek
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Post by: RWG on January 09, 2006, 05:46:00 pm
WOOT!

NICE JOB.  I SUCK AT THAT LEVEL.  I WILL UPDATE YOUR PAGE.  CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WOOT.  MY RECORD LASTED 2 UPDATES AND COUNTING!

YEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 09, 2006, 08:08:00 pm
I think your record's gonna last a lot longer than 2 updates. :p  Wanna be shoxed? 50 is possible.

Just kidding. Ryan, create a GE rivalry with just us. :evil  Call it.... "Ryan vs Michael - Canada's Second Bests" or vice-versa or however it's spelled or else whatever you want I dunno, I'll link to it with my sig and everything. :lol
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 09, 2006, 09:07:00 pm
you might be kidding, but I really think 50 is possible.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 09, 2006, 09:14:00 pm
Actually yeah, you're probably right. It'd be insane though, with all that grenade throwing... I dunno about you but I can't see 50 being done without a grenade. At all. :p
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Post by: RWG on January 09, 2006, 11:04:00 pm
If I made a riv it'd be called "Goose vs Mouse, teh crazy canucks" or something, but I don't know how!

And with 50 there are 2 ways it can happen

-even more insane mine throw
-boost from KF7 guard before throw, then that guy I shot pulls a nade, you kill, and boost

I don't think a grenade works the same way a mine does, so the current throw wouldn't work.  The 53 style one would. :p
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 09, 2006, 11:50:00 pm
Do it. Or else I'll do it. And if I do it it'll be called "Goose vs Mouse - The Asscheeks of the GE Canadian Elite" :lol

...Or something like that.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 10, 2006, 08:33:00 am
actually, just a better all-round run and a good end warp should be enough for 50, it would seem to me.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 10, 2006, 09:28:00 am


I would have got MAD if another :57 came up, which I thought that this run was.

But omfg I should have had this hours ago. I've worn out the control stick so that I can barely turn fast anymore... Barely any missions allow for slow turning. There's Jungle, but I hate Jungle. :p  Now that I've pwned with a shitty controller I feel as if I can do anything at the moment..... But I can't, so I'll just go get some sleep. :p

Was pure 1.2 as well. :x  Was starting to have trouble with 1.1 so I gave up on it. :p

First 300 point level - for now! :D

I still think Henrik is whoarding, waiting for me to get the SA/00A WRs :p  But if he isn't well... I got some competing to do.
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Post by: Illu on January 10, 2006, 11:09:00 am
Great job Mouse! Now my 57s are worth even less, hopefully I'll find some motivation to play that level sometime soon.
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Post by: bcks on January 10, 2006, 03:11:00 pm
Nice Mouser.:)  

Both of you better not give up on 55s, till at least 1 person gets it on both diffs, or i will call you chumps.:b  :lol
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Post by: RWG on January 10, 2006, 08:02:00 pm
Congrats.  I hate you guys.  56 is sooooooooooooooooo hard.  57 is even hard. :x

156 is like, over a billion times easier.  Thats underexaggerating also.
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Post by: bcks on January 10, 2006, 08:24:00 pm
No it is that much easyer. Archives is prolly the worst @#%$ level in the game.:evil
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Post by: Lark on January 10, 2006, 08:28:00 pm
I beg to differ
Jungle definitely is!>:
 gay xenia and drone guns!
:evil
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 10, 2006, 08:41:00 pm
The only thing luck based on archives is the guard who opens the first door to the library.

nat isnt luck if you do it properly, unlike on agent. also double door strat is gay so dont use it.

which makes the level 97.8% skill or something LOL dont ask where that number came from



Streets requires booooooosts. aka completely random, aka hard^^


and archives speed is very cake so i disagree with anyone saying any wr is easier then 56, except 26 and 23. caverns 103 is luck not skill (boosts). actually id say 23 is harder even


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Post by: RWG on January 10, 2006, 11:58:00 pm
I can cake depot 26 every 5 minutes
I can cake runway SA 23 every 20 minutes
I can get a caverns 103 in 2-3 hours
It took 1.5 hours to get two streets 156s

12 HOURS AND I STILL HAVE ARCHIVES 58s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





RANDOMNESS MAKES LEVELS EASIER!!!!!!!!!!!



On a non related note, my personal computer (not this gay one I'm on) is fixed.  I'll be on AIM more and crap.  etc.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 11, 2006, 12:02:00 am
My :56 were only difficult because I had a gay controller in the first place...... Put your best archives stuff on whatever tape you're gonna send to me (if you do) and me and Alex can help. :D

That is, if you don't already have :57 already. Alex is 1.1CC and I'm 1.2. You'll get the best advice ever!
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 11, 2006, 12:08:00 am
I have bad luck with boosts etc. 20? hours of caverns a and ive had 1 3:0 ratio ever. mostly 0:1/0:0/1:0 104s and the rest are 0:2/worse 105s

same applies to streets/etc
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Post by: RWG on January 11, 2006, 12:13:00 am
YAY, I'M BACK ON MY COMP!! YOUPEE

But yea.  I just did a 58 on tape.  There is only 1 noticeable bump.  Nothing that could screw you out of a 56 on NTSC.  The problem with my runs, is that I can't open the doors and go through them smoothly.  I break strafe and slow down and stuff.  On your 56s Alex, you have the most insane door openings and crap I've seen on 56.  I don't know how you do it.


I will make a vid of that 58 tomorrow.  Too many people doing gay things in the gaming room now. :p
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 11, 2006, 12:18:00 am
...Then I guess the only other reason why I have :56s is that I play 1.2, holding the controller keyboard-style. Try it!

:56 would be impossible for me otherwise.

......And yes, Alex's door opening and general movement through his SA :56 are wild. WILD I say!
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 11, 2006, 12:23:00 am
my 56 00 seemed about to me about .5 faster then my sa, from what i remember

s58.yousendit.com/d.aspx?...W0AMGUVFL3 (http://s58.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=212WBNMSHPWGH0O2W0AMGUVFL3)



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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 11, 2006, 12:26:00 am
Lovin' it. :rollin
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 11, 2006, 04:32:00 am
56 is so easy it's not funny. Yesterday i failed like 3 in a row or something. If that's luck then i must be the luckiest player on earth(and i'm pretty much the opposite of that).
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 11, 2006, 04:49:00 am
They needed you back in 2001. :p
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Post by: Illu on January 11, 2006, 10:44:00 am
I took like 10h for arch 57s :(  for sure one of my worst levels.

- beginning I do well like 1/4 runs

- guard in the way on 3/5 runs on that second door

- Screw up after first double doors like 2/5 runs

- Guard back boosts be or something else when trying to open door to nat, screw up there 2/5 runs

- Double doors not open 4/5 runs, I don't stand a chanse of getting trough smoothly without them open |I

- Can't get trough smootly one of those last doors I screw up 2/5 runs

- Got depressed now, don't even want to write rest :\

:b
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Post by: silver angel on January 11, 2006, 06:02:00 pm
Good good Mouser :)

As Illu, I have to give up most of my runs in Archives, and 56 is still a very good time. Now go on, you know what you have to do ;)  :p
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Post by: TreAKAHotdog on January 12, 2006, 04:38:00 pm
lol whois mystery man kral?
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Post by: Boss on January 12, 2006, 04:44:00 pm
I would assume so since there is no introduction or anything like that.  I thought Karl didn't care about GE anymore though. :p   I'm starting to think Archives 56 is worse than Runway 23 for SA anyway..
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Post by: DarkSlayer64 on January 12, 2006, 05:31:00 pm
If that's Karl, then \o/ But I've never seen Karl posting a time without a "-" or ":" before the number, like "Archives SA - 0:56". :b
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Post by: Illu on January 12, 2006, 05:32:00 pm
but whois kral then? :p
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 12, 2006, 06:04:00 pm
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I'm starting to think Archives 56 is worse than Runway 23 for SA anyway..


Definately.
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Post by: Boss on January 12, 2006, 06:27:00 pm
Just get 55s so I don't have to contemplate it any longer.  Enough players struggle where making that change could be wrong.  23 is the older record and has more ties.
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Post by: Lark on January 12, 2006, 06:52:00 pm
Is archives 56 even possible with closed doors?:evil
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 12, 2006, 06:57:00 pm
yes ive done it opening every single door myself
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Post by: RWG on January 12, 2006, 07:12:00 pm
23 is way easier.  I can do it on command pretty much. Like every 20 minutes one just appears.
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Post by: RWG on January 12, 2006, 11:14:00 pm
THANKS ALEX!!!

w00t.  That's strange.  Didn't think it'd come in 1 hour after 57s. :p
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 12, 2006, 11:43:00 pm
23 Happening every 20 minutes isn't really "On command" though :p  And it's only better now because :56 is becoming commonplace. Not so much when only Bryan and a few others had it because nobody else had the skill at the time to pull it off. You'll notice that this will happen to other records as time passes.

And good job Ryan! :lol  Get it on 00A now to maximize the number of :56s before :55 appears. :p  Which should be soon I think (Henrik!).

And I opened all the doors myself too. ;)  I think if you can do that then you can get :55 with all the doors open. However for me, for sure my :56s were very high decimals so I need a new controller before I can go in for that. :p
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 13, 2006, 12:05:00 am
Use the box explosion double boost trick after mishkin to make 55 a tad easier...
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Post by: Lark on January 13, 2006, 12:10:00 am
I thought about something as well:
Maybe if you could get a grenade from a guard you could toss it at the box where you exit the room after getting the flight recorder. It blows up the one outside the room. With it gone you could maybe strafe without having to go around it.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 13, 2006, 12:15:00 am
Alex and I devised a strat where a grenade depends on a guard that's ALWAYS in the way. :evil  We will now wait on him to see what comes out of it :D  I've actually gotten a nade on 00A :56 but I didn't even realize it. I saw the guard do the hand motion to pull it before I killed him but didn't think I actually picked it up. :lol
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Post by: Jimbo on January 13, 2006, 01:51:00 am
0:56s are in general pretty easy, it's not letting your nerves get to you that is the hard part.

I managed to sneek out 0:56s based on insane safe jumps (something I find myself very good at, jumpstarting in general), giving me some leeway in the general run. I did 56 1.2 standard style, movements are insane but I could do it.

I would say 1:56s are harder based on the fact that I have always had a problem with strictly strafing levels. I am probably the worst pure strafer in the top 10, notice that most of my points are on complicated levels. Bunker 1 00A, Silo 00A, Control 00A, Caverns 00A...all good examples.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 13, 2006, 02:21:00 am
I'd play more archives sa and 00, but there are some problems:

1)I cruise
2)Having to turn off cruise just for Mishkin is annoying
3)"cruise-turning" for Mishkin is stupid

which leads me to only three solutions:

1)Learn 1.2
2)Suck it up
3)Hack
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 13, 2006, 02:22:00 am
cruise turning is cake and takes a few seconds :p

suck it up!
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 13, 2006, 02:35:00 am
It also helps if you know how to do it. :D

Suck it up!
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Post by: RWG on January 13, 2006, 02:57:00 am
cruise is no problem.  I do not understand how people cannot strafe mishkin/val with cruise.  I can cake 229s on statue old strat, cruising the ENTIRE time.  Its easy.  Especially on streets/archives.  It shouldn't even come into play.

WTF is "cruise turning"?  I don't even know.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 13, 2006, 03:52:00 am
If i'm not entirely wrong then if Karl's added to the ranks the leaderboard on Archives will be only 10 poeple :)
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 13, 2006, 05:59:00 am
as far as I remember getting 17 on agent with only the first door normally opened by guard being closed needed about as good a run as 16 just without the boost. so for sa/00 there's at least 1 more door that can be opened for sure, so if that's closed aswell, it easily adds up to a whole second lost, so imo there's no reason for those that get 56s with ALL doors closed not to get 55s. I'd even go as far as to say 55 should be reasonably cake and would take about 3 hours maybe. I'm just speculating from what you guys are saying, so if you're all not exaggerating then I'm not either.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 13, 2006, 06:14:00 am
^Agree. Henrik proved this for us with the failed runs he's shared with us.
Add to that the boost you need, plus the rare one in the basement after you open the first door. 55 SHOULD take no longer than, in Wouter's words, 3 hours at best.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 13, 2006, 09:14:00 am
Good stuff Illu. ;)  Now do the other level! Not that hard IMO. You get boosts more often. :D
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Post by: RWG on January 13, 2006, 09:50:00 am
that does it.  clean LB!!! WOOT.
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Post by: bcks on January 13, 2006, 09:53:00 am
Yep, make sure to get 56 00 Ryan, Illu, and Karl.
Nice illu, i thought you sucked at archives? :p
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 13, 2006, 10:31:00 am
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^Agree. Henrik proved this for us with the failed runs he's shared with us.


The only thing i proved was that 55 needs a nearly perfect run. And 3 hours wouter? I'm probably the most consistent Archives player and i have played about 10 hours by now. I tell you, A good run and all doors opened is not enough for 55. At least not for me, could be with Alex's start.
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 13, 2006, 12:47:00 pm
Im probly more consitant at archives then you ;) :p
i failed 56 5 runs out of 7 the other day, its rare that i fail 57s unless i do the all doors closed strat.

the other 2 runs i didnt get into the library :-p

ill probly give this a shot sometime soon, after egypt 47
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 13, 2006, 12:54:00 pm
If i get a descent start and get past the first guard door then i usually get a 56 unless guards in Nat area is being gay and backboosts you and stuff. So i guess we're pretty similar when it comes to consistency.

Anywyas, my point is that, even after getting 56 on pretty much every run for a billion hours and i still don't have 55 so it sure must need a great run to get it(except for those crazy fails where you @#%$ up everything and it still says 55 on the end screen.
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Post by: 007-Emile on January 13, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
1.06 OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 13, 2006, 02:05:00 pm
lol, you're not doing it well if you fail so much :p
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 13, 2006, 02:27:00 pm
Nice work Karl ;)
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Post by: Illu on January 13, 2006, 02:42:00 pm
Yeah, congratz again Karl, surely didn't expect something like this all of a sudden, it's a really nice untied.
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Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on January 13, 2006, 02:51:00 pm
Karl's first records for GE since late 2003/early 2004 and he immediately unties one. The 1:06 was really impressive to watch. GJ Jobstar!

-Matthijs
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 13, 2006, 04:00:00 pm
why were you watching my silo 1:06 anyway :p
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 13, 2006, 04:35:00 pm
i often get shot picking up the fr, resulting in a slow fr and often missing it

that or nat. watch my 56 slappers 00 for the shot im talking about



106 is pretty insane, i hope to see it soon
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 13, 2006, 04:41:00 pm
Awesome job Karl!
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Post by: Jimbo on January 13, 2006, 07:10:00 pm
Whoa is this 1:06 legit? Where is the vid?
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Post by: Illu on January 13, 2006, 07:26:00 pm
sure it's legit but you'll have to wait for it if you weren't one of the lucky ones or something as it seems
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Post by: RWG on January 13, 2006, 08:55:00 pm
can I be the first to blatantly say (although others have implied) YEA FUCKIN RIGHT, wtf
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 13, 2006, 09:53:00 pm
welcome, Death! Please explain yourself here
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Post by: Saint Shang on January 13, 2006, 09:59:00 pm
Are you 1.1 or 1.2 Death? And are you related to Jack Bauer?
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Post by: bcks on January 13, 2006, 10:31:00 pm
Karl pwns!!!!:smokin

Nice job jimmy, whoever you are. :b  When can you show the world your skills?;)
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Post by: DarkSlayer64 on January 13, 2006, 11:00:00 pm
*looks at calendar*

Well, we're not close to April 1st, so I'm assuming it isn't a joke. :b  In that case, OMFG Karl, you rock! :D
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Post by: Comet on January 14, 2006, 12:19:00 am
Possible unwhoard? Perhaps a record a day? Assuming it is Karl of course
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Post by: RWG on January 14, 2006, 12:47:00 am
Congrats Jimmy!!! :smokin :smokin :p
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Post by: Lark on January 14, 2006, 01:15:00 am
Sweet, time Ryan. Hey, do you have 16? You seem to pwn archives!:b
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 14, 2006, 01:32:00 am
16 is 100x harder then 56
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Post by: RWG on January 14, 2006, 01:36:00 am
Either this link (http://www.the-elite.net/GE/elite.htm) or that link at the bottom of the page will let you know if I have 16. :b
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Post by: TreAKAHotdog on January 14, 2006, 01:40:00 am
omg WR topic will reach 500
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Post by: Lark on January 14, 2006, 03:28:00 am
Has it not done that before!:b
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Post by: PerfectTaste on January 14, 2006, 12:23:00 pm
Last time I played was 15th September.

Caverns took me almost 7 hours in total (3h 15th September, 2 hours tonight and 2 hours today). I got 1:04 with 3 backboosts once and the rest of my 1:04 could all have been 1:03 with a good ending. Like 2 or 3 of my 1:04 had good endings (boosted through the drones), but those runs I probably screwed up somewhere in the beginning.

1:03 isn't really hard, just get some boosts. 1:02 should be done anytime soon, don't you think? :)
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Post by: CreepingDeath007 on January 14, 2006, 01:18:00 pm
Awesome job on all the WRs guys!:smokin
By the way, I am control style 1.2, NTSC, and I am not related to Jack Bauer.:lol
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 14, 2006, 03:06:00 pm
Nor is he related to everyone's second favorite German, Martin.
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 14, 2006, 03:18:00 pm
Nice job, Gaydeski!
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Post by: RWG on January 14, 2006, 03:25:00 pm
WTF 7 RECORDS IN 40 HOURS! OMG WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?!?

Congrats boys on those WRs. :p
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Post by: deletedprofile.u on January 14, 2006, 03:26:00 pm
2:40.9x Val talk
2:13.1x switch
4:50.65 end
4:1 ratio

On to 00!
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Post by: Illu on January 14, 2006, 03:37:00 pm
Nice job on the latest WRs everyone!
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 14, 2006, 04:49:00 pm
That must be like the worst switch ever
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Post by: Illu on January 14, 2006, 05:11:00 pm
Yeah actually, not bad getting 1:56 with that switch.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 14, 2006, 06:27:00 pm
Well he does have like 17 of them so it's not very suprising :b

But yeah, very nice job on all wr's lately poeple!

And i really hope you'll keep going for 1:55 mike!
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Post by: Boss on January 14, 2006, 07:10:00 pm
Congrats on the 106, Karl.  Also congrats on all that Arch stuff and whatnot lately.
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Post by: Your Eliteness on January 14, 2006, 11:08:00 pm
I'm afraid to sleep because I miss all the WRs as they're posted :(

EDIT: On Karl's 1:06, why is his weapon of choice "-"? Is the watch laser not a weapon?
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 14, 2006, 11:34:00 pm
no it isn't
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Post by: Lark on January 15, 2006, 12:07:00 am
Well, Karl also said that he is gonna "retire" from GE. He was prob just mad at Train SA tough level.
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Post by: Boss on January 15, 2006, 04:40:00 am
Damn I had a real shot at 142 a few times.  It's hard to get to Nat cleanly there after the last brake.  40 door pause speed ought to be good enough I would imagine.  One of those 143s had a 16.10 ending. >:   Oh well I guess Karl can get it first since I won't be playing a lot for another 2 months.
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 15, 2006, 05:57:00 am
So when did Karl start going for Train SA?

and what's that "new trick" you mention in duplications topic?
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Post by: Boss on January 15, 2006, 05:51:00 pm
I'm sure some of you knew this already, but if you time the cinemas differently it greatly affects how the guards act in the first 4 cars.  This is the "new trick" that helped me get a couple dupe 143s last night.  I decided to go with waiting about 1 extra sec for both cinemas.  If I was fast enough, the 3rd and 4th cars were very easy to get through without getting stuck really.  If you are slow on the other hand (with 2nd brake for sure), you'll have a tough time with the 3rd car and then 4th should you bother to continue that far.  This could perhaps really help on 00A and take the record well under 211 with a clean run.

I would just assume Karl is trying Train SA.
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Post by: Lark on January 15, 2006, 07:14:00 pm
So, right when the cinema begins, wait one second then push A. Then when the second cinema begins wait one second and then start?
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 15, 2006, 09:33:00 pm
wtf, 40 door pause is 142? ive quit out 39s on 00 agent >D
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Post by: Lark on January 15, 2006, 09:42:00 pm
Can you say, NEW TRAIN RECORD?:eek
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Post by: Boss on January 15, 2006, 10:58:00 pm
I don't really know.  Maybe 40 door is only 143.  Those last 2 143s surprised me all things considered though.  I thought both were 144s.  I'd like to see a vid of a 39 door on 00A.  The guards are just too gay to allow that.
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 16, 2006, 01:21:00 am
Can u explain a bit more on the new cinema strat?

what does it do different for 3rd/4th cars?

is there a difference at all for the first 2?
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Post by: Boss on January 16, 2006, 01:31:00 am
Basically the guards in the 3rd and 4th car will be in different spots with different cinema timings if you went the exact same speed every run.  That's my take on it.  As far as the first 2 cars it seems to make a difference there, just not as noticeable probably.
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Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on January 17, 2006, 12:20:00 am
omfg@Train vid.. That's..... AWESOME! I told you something else is gonna happen. Keep on 0wning, Karl. :rollin
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Post by: Lecmasta on January 17, 2006, 02:58:00 pm
wow Karl, amazing stuff. Keep it up :D
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Post by: wishiwasfamous on January 17, 2006, 03:03:00 pm
Alex isn't going to like that 8o
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 17, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
haha, this is going to be fun.
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Post by: Jimbo on January 17, 2006, 05:15:00 pm
No way...
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 17, 2006, 05:50:00 pm
some people are luckier then others
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Post by: Boss on January 17, 2006, 06:05:00 pm
Karl pwned you Alex. :p
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 17, 2006, 06:07:00 pm
ive only put 4 hours into 55, i should have it 7 times already:rolleyes  

also ive gotten 40 56s (all @#%$) in that time frame....

if i had any luck at all i would get 55s every 15-20 minutes...
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Post by: Wyst3r on January 17, 2006, 06:13:00 pm
Geez...I must've been doing something wrong when i played Archives cause i actually thought 55's was pretty tough :p

Whatever, Awesome job Karl!

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Post by: MysteryMan on January 17, 2006, 06:20:00 pm
55 is the easiest time ever.

If I were to guess, I'd say I got 55 because I have such awesome skills? I doubt you can luck 55.

That had winge ALL over it.

-Karl
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Post by: bcks on January 17, 2006, 06:27:00 pm
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if i had any luck at all i would get 55s every 15-20 minutes...


Kalm down Karl, he said if I, had any luck. He has horrible luck at archives.
Congrats Karl, on 55, now do 00. :smokin :)
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 17, 2006, 06:30:00 pm
if natalya would see me on a run where im not @#%$ over by random guard actions i would get it almost everytime.

i have the worst luck on archives, 2200 17s before 16, failed it 3 times etc

55 isnt even hard for speed, just i cant have a run where nat/guard doesnt @#%$ it up. i only messed up 2 possible 55 runs, of the 40 56s, rest were guards fault
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Post by: MysteryMan on January 17, 2006, 06:40:00 pm
I've already failed 4 16's on agent, and nat got me stuck next to the safe on a 55 run for ooa, I got gayed pretty bad. Nat sees me like 4/5 times or maybe more. You're supposed to quit if she doesn't see you what's the point of going on. That's like saying you'd had 23 frigate so many times if not for the freaking hostages!

-Karl
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Post by: MysteryMan on January 17, 2006, 06:48:00 pm
Lol illu I'm not sure how long that wr will last :)

-Karl
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Post by: Illu on January 17, 2006, 07:23:00 pm
hehe, almost though I missed out on posting that on WR topic, congrats on 55 on SA Karl.
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Post by: RWG on January 17, 2006, 07:34:00 pm
If bullshit were dynamite, Karl'd blow up.

I'm still not convinced.  Or anywhere near to it.

I realize its like automatic pwned when the vid is released, but I don't give a @#%$ right now.
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Post by: Lark on January 17, 2006, 08:57:00 pm
That's pretty sweet WR Karl. I Guess it was good that you gave up on Train:b  
I would love to see the vid.
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Post by: Wouter Jansen on January 17, 2006, 08:58:00 pm
haha, Karl's the man :)

so I take it you won't go for any luck based records? ;)
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Post by: GoldenGreg007 on January 17, 2006, 10:03:00 pm
KARL RULES!
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Post by: MysteryMan on January 17, 2006, 11:43:00 pm
I don't get it. Karl claims 106, proves it, then claims 55 and WG doesn't believe it. eh?

Don't let me hear any more @#%$ about luck Alex. Karl got severely pwned out of plenty of 55s.

-Matt
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Post by: RWG on January 18, 2006, 12:00:00 am
I don't believe 106 either, and yes, I saw the vid.
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Post by: DarkSlayer64 on January 18, 2006, 12:00:00 am
VERY nice job, Karl. And nice job Illu too. :)
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Post by: Cervone on January 18, 2006, 02:32:00 am
Nice job Karl, took me by surprise.
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 18, 2006, 03:53:00 am
No boost
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Post by: RWG on January 18, 2006, 03:56:00 am
Karl's the best liar
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 18, 2006, 04:36:00 am
Come on get happy WG.
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 18, 2006, 05:52:00 am
Just reiterating here...

SIA
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Post by: Axel A on January 18, 2006, 06:15:00 am
Cry babies go home!
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Post by: Infected Mind on January 18, 2006, 06:18:00 am
K
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Post by: SpiderWaffle on January 18, 2006, 07:54:00 am
Is caverns 1:02 going to be the next human maxed time?
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 18, 2006, 08:44:00 am
54 is human max
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Post by: Illu on January 18, 2006, 10:27:00 am
That's some nice pwnage Karl, though I hope I can get something on some level I'm better at so the rest of us won't get completely run over by this WR demon :p

Well I did tie the Dam 00A WR as you can see, pretty fast too, I ran the first alarm area hoping for an first ever sub 2 clocking but it still wasn't enough.
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on January 18, 2006, 11:13:00 am
< 5 mins to get depot. Got a 29 also.

-Matt
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Post by: RWG on January 18, 2006, 02:01:00 pm
now THERE'S a Karl time I believe.

And nice job Illu.  Thats some nice record there.
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Post by: Saint Shang on January 18, 2006, 03:05:00 pm
Congrats on your 2nd 300 pointer Illu! Will you go for lower do you think? Or are you focusing on an other level? Nice WR`s last few days.
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Post by: Djie on January 18, 2006, 03:12:00 pm
considering Karl has the 2 55s, Illu doesnt have the 300pts anymore.

edit: got pwned :(
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Post by: RWG on January 18, 2006, 03:36:00 pm
you need a 16 to have 300 points on archives I believe.

The 2nd is facility, you chode! :p
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Post by: Illu on January 18, 2006, 03:53:00 pm
I'm gonna try that again some (Dam 00A) archives agent, Facility, like lots of stuff, jumping back and forth between levels. Have to practise Karls way for beginning on arch, the rightstrafing out of the room could be a bit useful.

If you've seen Bryans Dam 00A 2:00 you know he got two pretty bad backboosts in the tunnel and he did it basically like his 2:01. So I run the first alarm area, I'm decent at surviving, not trying much lock on the strafe because consistency is important to get a run to survive with good speed.
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Post by: TreAKAHotdog on January 18, 2006, 05:15:00 pm
For crying out loud, SOMEONE GET facility 55's it's so easy
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Post by: Illu on January 18, 2006, 06:19:00 pm
I'm going for 56 when I play Facility SA, struggled for 57 on 00A, my speed became better after that though.

btw here's... Illu - Dam 2:00A (http://www.thengamer.com/GE/01-Dam/Illu%20-%20Dam%202.00A.wmv)
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Post by: Lark on January 18, 2006, 06:31:00 pm
Karl have any vids yet?
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Post by: Illu on January 18, 2006, 06:43:00 pm
oh yeah...

click here (http://www.thengamer.com/GE/11-Archives/)

There are his Archives agent and SA, was really impressed with no boost on either of these and he opened the double doors himself. He makes 16 look easy and that 55 is pwnage, amazing stuff...
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Post by: RWG on January 18, 2006, 06:56:00 pm
I still don't believe Karl.  But in a different way now. :|
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Post by: Lark on January 18, 2006, 07:15:00 pm
Karl, chose some interesting music in his vid.:p
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Post by: Saint Shang on January 18, 2006, 07:17:00 pm
I take it Train 1:06 was PAL and Archives NTSC going off the vids?