Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 06, 2005, 11:08:00 pm
What is the percentage chance of clear tunnels here? What a fhucking ghey level, mehmehmeh....
Post by: Infected Mind on October 06, 2005, 11:25:00 pm
explain what your doing and maybe we can pinpoint the problem
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 06, 2005, 11:39:00 pm
If i fire 3 shots at the corner guy, exhaust guys dont come. 6 is needed imo. But maybe the noise attracts guys from the main room...meh. Hard @#%$.
ps. the advertising on these boards is getting annoying. Stupid f** dating links.
Post by: Jimbo on October 07, 2005, 12:01:00 am
Once you are on top of the open mainframe, shoot exactly 6 bullets at the guy to the left making sure you kill him. This will attract the 2 exhaust room guards. Walk forward and attract the 3rd guy by simply letting him see you (Wouter does this on almost all of his vids). You will have 3 guys to open the glass door, and clear vents.
BTW, stop making new topics, damn.
Post by: Infected Mind on October 07, 2005, 12:04:00 am
do like jim says for a better/faster/worryfreevent strat
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 07, 2005, 12:06:00 am
Nice explaination btw. Gotta be tried!
ps. Jimbo, you sound angry - but you'd been even angrier if you knew what replaced my times page for a brief period all those months ago. I dont think anyone saw it....but....
Post by: wishiwasfamous on October 07, 2005, 02:46:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on October 07, 2005, 02:53:00 am
Anyways, The thing about the vents is that guards can hear you if you shoot with AR33 within a certain distance from the large room. This means that when you're about halfway through corridor right after mainframe they are within hearing range.
So you don't have to lure the guard behind the corner, It's just to increase chances of opening the glass door.
And for the exhaust guys, 6 shots doesn't always work. Usually for 1 guard but several times the second one doesn't hear it. So to be sure you should perhaps shoot like 9 shots. And be sure to stand as close to the wall as possible for closest distance.
Oh and another thing, If you use more than 3 bullets into the exhaust room mainframe then you're probably screwed. Even 3 bullets makes them hear you so they are usually just outside the vents as you arrive there.
Post by: bcks on October 07, 2005, 03:18:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 07, 2005, 10:18:00 am
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 07, 2005, 07:07:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on October 07, 2005, 07:15:00 pm
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 07, 2005, 07:22:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 07, 2005, 07:49:00 pm
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 07, 2005, 07:54:00 pm
)Post by: Matt-Cook1 on October 08, 2005, 12:29:00 am
Post by: Djie on October 08, 2005, 01:02:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on October 08, 2005, 02:11:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on October 08, 2005, 02:52:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on October 08, 2005, 04:57:00 am
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 08, 2005, 08:40:00 pm
What do you mean Henrik? Was anyone implying a Jaws usage (if thats what you mean)?
Post by: Your Eliteness on October 09, 2005, 12:50:00 am
[Australia - (Moore+Neo+YE+FB)] = t3h gayness
Or, you could totally reverse it into multiple equations, which is much more logical and easy to read:
Matt = t3h gayness
Karl = t3h gayness
The rest of Australia is unknown, as the Elite has never met them.
Post by: Djie on October 09, 2005, 01:13:00 am
But I agree with your equation anyway
Post by: Wyst3r on October 09, 2005, 02:49:00 am
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 11, 2005, 09:22:00 pm
but yeah, easier to get a clear vent than an inert console death
ps. sorry my equation sucked. Karl+Matt-Goatse-Tubgirl < 0
====> Karl+Matt < Goatse+Tubgirl
Post by: Illu on October 16, 2005, 09:45:00 am
In the topic "Strength of the world records" Dan said something about 1:33 happening and Bryan was saying that the best glass door method is not used to it's full potential yet. WTF was that all about? I still don't get it, you mean getting the launch protocol data first so you leave in left strafe? Or going to the glass faster? Wouter did that already.
Yeah Brandon is not in top 10 and he got 1:36, that doesn't make 1:33 possible, Brandon just happens to own at this level. I say 1:34 might happen but I'm doubtful, would Dan go for it, nope I think he's happy with his 1:37, don't try the running strat you'll regret it!
I'm gonna go try it now anyway @#%$ have to try proving myself wrong or something
Post by: Wyst3r on October 16, 2005, 01:44:00 pm
2: What Bryan means by glass door not fully used yet is pretty complex. If you don't let the guards see you, You can save some secs but also, If they do open the glass door(very small chance they even get there) they usually opens it instantly. All in all this saves quite alot but the chances of it working on a clean running strat run is insanely small.
3: Wouter had a good run on his 1:35 but he did obviously loose like 2 secs in total. So 1:33 is possible theoreticly, And im sure someone will do that someday. More insane things has been done.
4: I did get 1:38 with like 3 secs lost on the luring part so that would probably been a 1:35 without it.
5: There ARE alternate strats instead of the running strat. You can like go forward kill both left guards then do like normal. Might be like a sec slower than running though a sec faster than clearing first room.
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 16, 2005, 07:16:00 pm
Lets return to the issue of a multi-talented and generally trusted gamer called "SZ", who got 1.31 (surposedly). I was keen for the time to stay up back then, and was dissapointed in those that doubted him - but what do you reckon?
Greneby got to keep his untied, untaped 2.02 Cavs a while back - in fact it almost got overlooked, so that clearly violates the proof policy just as much (though it was a more believable time).
You could make INSANE noise levels while cleaning the black room, and lure the guys that way, without even going past the m/f yourself. But perhaps that wouldnt work...lol.
Post by: bcks on October 16, 2005, 07:30:00 pm
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Greneby got to keep his untied, untaped 2.02 Cavs a while back - in fact it almost got overlooked, so that clearly violates the proof policy just as much (though it was a more believable time).
Wouter and Graham both beat Tim's time, anybody beat stevens yet?
Where still 4 seconds from it, and shaveing off 2 of those will be hard enough.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 16, 2005, 08:12:00 pm
Post by: ShadowZero64 on October 16, 2005, 08:12:00 pm
Post by: Djie on October 16, 2005, 08:21:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on October 17, 2005, 01:50:00 am
The loudest gun in this level is obviously Ar33(Though i have no idea about Laser). However, There is a certain limit of where this guy can hear the Ar33 no matter how much noise you make. And this limit is just within half a meter from the mainframe IF you stand close to the right wall.
The second limit which is for the Vent guards, Is just about halfway through the corridor after the mainframe.
I hope this makes sense.
Post by: bcks on October 17, 2005, 02:16:00 am
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Yeah Brandon is not in top 10 and he got 1:36, that doesn't make 1:33 possible, Brandon just happens to own at this level.
Thanks, i also happen to like this level, i don't think many people do.
I did 136 and 137(only completes) with the runing strat(wouters), also 137 with peters strat, which dan used too. I do think dan and bryan would go for it someday. Hell i even think i could do 135/134. But as you say the runing strat is quite a bitch to complete. Just stick with peters till you get a nice 137, 136 could be done too with it. I would also like to say i did a 140 with mainframe closed.
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on October 17, 2005, 01:50:00 pm