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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: SpiderWaffle on September 10, 2005, 10:21:00 am

Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 10, 2005, 10:21:00 am
We've all known about this theoritical strat for quite some time.  I think it's about time we really put it to the test.  I see a lot more potential here than with a single guard aztec strat.

I've barely started testing but here's what I've got so far.  Havn't been able to figure out exactly what makes him run but proximity and your sight seem to be the 2 main elements.  where he runs seems to be a bit random, but some of it seems to be very much in your control.  Whats worked best for me is doing the strat like normal up to boris, then having him walk a ways, past the railing, then try and let him run.  If you let him walk far enough he seems to always run in the direction you want him to.  Once he reaches the T intersection sometimes he'll go left, sometimes straight.  Once I had him run up to and imeadiatly open the first door to the computer room, at which point I got too close and stoped him, but then it only takes about 2 seconds to get him to start walking again.

I could easily see this saving 3, maybe 5 seconds and I don't think it will require tons of luck or increase the dificulty of completing.  I just needs refining.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 10, 2005, 11:07:00 am
but this luck factor adds up to the luck factor of getting a grenade thrown to get rid of most guards and makes the whole thing much less likely to work out well.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: Wyst3r on September 10, 2005, 11:46:00 am
What about killing all guards on your way there? If done fast it's pretty much the same time lost as gained when letting him run? And then add that when going a bit slower you might have time to do the shot that makes him go immideadly when arriving.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: RWG on September 10, 2005, 09:32:00 pm
Killing guards does the same thing as luring the blast guards in Aztec.  It makes everything way more likely, but you'll end up with the same time in the end.  Strats like these need 100% luck and 100% perfect play at the same time.  The luck gets even greater here, when Boris can run in any GD direction he wants.

Why don't we just make a -Post your new WR strategy discussions- topic?

-Ryan White
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: .. on September 10, 2005, 10:25:00 pm
We have one.  It's called "Post New WR Discussion Here"
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: RWG on September 10, 2005, 10:52:00 pm
Bah, thats for congratulating people:p
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: .. on September 10, 2005, 11:42:00 pm
No, it's just used for that since there isn't very much WR discussion anymore because of lesser activity at high ranks and the WRs being so good. :P
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: Jimbo on September 11, 2005, 12:35:00 am
There's so many factors into this running strat that make the strat totally un-workable and not practical.

1. Say you magically get Boris to run, he only runs in the direction you want if you stand in one place after he starts walking (still giving him about 3 seconds walking time). After he runs, VERY RARELY does he run to the double doors, let alone stop where he needs to. His delay in putting his arms up cancel out all time saved by running...

Say you put together a magical strat, where he runs nearly instantly and heads STRAIGHT to the double doors. When do you pause for cam / do the 3rd camera? (on SA). You don't have enough time to pull this stuff off, I don't care WHO you are.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 11, 2005, 06:39:00 am
>>he only runs in the direction you want if you stand in one place after he starts walking (still giving him about 3 seconds walking time)<<

This simply isn't true, I don't know how you got this.

>>After he runs, VERY RARELY does he run to the double doors, let alone stop where he needs to<<

He runs past or opens the double doors over half the time.  Where he stops is something you have a lot of control over, No ones exactly sure what works but it can be refined, shooting him in the back also works quite well.

>>When do you pause for cam / do the 3rd camera? (on SA). <<

I think you'll want to pause for cam shortly after ariving at boris, specificaly right after you kill the guard in the corner, maybe also kill any guards following behind.  3rd cam? The first 3 SA cams would be done while boris is doing his computer stuff like normal.  The last SA cam would be done shortly after pausing for camera.  For this I like to run towrds that camera, away from boris, also looking away from boris, while doing this camera boris takes off running in the direction you want.

I'm not sure where to pause to copy the key.  I think your options are:

1. Right after you do the first camera, while boris is running.  This gives him time to get to the double doors, the timing works out great if you shoot the camera fast but you might get shoot up too much while doing this, idk.

2. Right after you stop boris from running and are standing right next to him.  He takes about 2 seconds to start walking again, this might be the best thing to do while waiting, but you'd have a hard time copying and getting a gun out in time to shoot the 3 comp room guards.

3. Some time while boris is doing the comp stuff, the 3 cameras would have to be fast obviously but I think there's time.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: Jimbo on September 11, 2005, 11:43:00 am
Boris runs in a million directions. But only after he starts walking does he REMAIN traveling in that direction. This strat is hopeless.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 11, 2005, 09:08:00 pm
Maybe with that kind of atitude it is.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 13, 2005, 05:51:00 am
Well I timed a test phase of boris running it was about 2 seconds faster from when bond tells him to go to the computer and when bond tells him to disable the security.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on September 13, 2005, 01:36:00 pm
jimbo, stop being a fag.:rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on September 14, 2005, 09:39:00 pm
Jimbo, if you combined a running strat with SA-style camera takeouts, thats a sure WR ;)


ps.  who are you, SpiderWaffle?  are you in the elite?  just curious.....


Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 15, 2005, 02:31:00 am
I don't have my times submitted if that's what you mean.  I've just been a GE fan and been following the elite for many years, tried to help with some strats and stuff.
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on September 19, 2005, 11:51:00 am
.....and your name is? ;)  


EDIT:  so, Mr Food isnt the only Avatar-only freak :D
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on September 21, 2005, 09:17:00 pm
I guess someone posted his name in an old topic at the PD board, can't remember though. I think it was him who invented the "throw comms rider from far away" strat on Infiltration SA / PA. :D  He's more of a strategist than a competitor (and that's cool).
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on September 22, 2005, 02:36:00 am
definitely cool.  last thing i need is competition that can come up with strategies too. :o
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: johnnyintheechocafe on September 22, 2005, 09:57:00 am
hey Greg, if we dodnt compete, we'd be more capable of strategizing i think.  But the stress of competing clouds our judgement ;)

In conclusion.....Cleveland Browns Suck!!!

:D
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 22, 2005, 02:38:00 pm
heh, your friends call you Cleveland Browns now?

PS - "dodnt"
Title: Boris running strat
Post by: SpiderWaffle on September 22, 2005, 10:16:00 pm
>>I think it was him who invented the "throw comms rider from far away" strat on Infiltration SA / PA.  He's more of a strategist than a competitor (and that's cool). <<

This^ is all true.

My name's Blake Piepho.  I compete in other games.