Post by: .. on February 08, 2005, 09:52:00 pm
55's on Archives will happen sometime.
Post by: Jimbo on February 09, 2005, 12:20:00 am
Post by: Cervone on February 09, 2005, 12:27:00 am
Post by: Amoore347 on February 09, 2005, 12:44:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Infected Mind on February 09, 2005, 01:21:00 am
axel claims 90% trev shots, so ask him about it
Post by: Wyst3r on February 09, 2005, 04:15:00 am
Post by: Axel A on February 09, 2005, 04:27:00 am
Post by: Infected Mind on February 09, 2005, 05:20:00 am
Post by: Axel A on February 09, 2005, 05:32:00 am
Another tips is.
Post by: Cervone on February 09, 2005, 09:19:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on February 09, 2005, 11:40:00 am
As soon as I turn around from statue corner, I wait about 1.25-1.5 seconds and just aim and shoot. Works pretty often(33%).
Post by: Wyst3r on February 09, 2005, 01:22:00 pm
I guess i'll put that on my Todo-list
Post by: Infected Mind on February 09, 2005, 04:18:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on February 09, 2005, 04:34:00 pm
Post by: JChrist-007 on February 09, 2005, 09:24:00 pm
-Jesus
Post by: God on February 09, 2005, 09:45:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 10, 2005, 09:19:00 am
omg
Post by: JChrist-007 on February 10, 2005, 01:02:00 pm
*Returns to heaven*
-Jesus
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on February 10, 2005, 01:12:00 pm
Anyway, back on topic, it's true that the longer you wait for Trev, the better your chances of hitting him in the chest are. But, it isn't worth the big loss in time. It might also depend on the position you stand, a different angle might lead to more success. It doesn't get any less random though...
-Matthijs
Post by: Wyst3r on February 10, 2005, 03:34:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on February 10, 2005, 04:12:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on February 10, 2005, 04:18:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on February 10, 2005, 05:29:00 pm
Dan is the holy spirit? Omg
Post by: Silent Thunder on February 10, 2005, 05:32:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 10, 2005, 05:39:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 12, 2005, 09:46:00 pm
Maybe it's just a bad day for me, I sure hope so...
Post by: Wyst3r on February 20, 2005, 06:44:00 am
Well it's still an untied and i'm very happy even if Bryan and Wouter will beat it soon
Btw, Update the rankings quick so i can at least see my untied before someone beats it
Post by: Boss on February 20, 2005, 07:06:00 am
Nice job though, but good luck keeping it. I dunno why you don't use AIM anymore (forget).Anyways, I'm not leaving PD because of this easier strat. I still have a very confortable margin, and who cares if I lose a few spots on Aztec. I know it's from a better fundamental strat. I think once people caught onto my no vent guard strat, the Aztec rampage began. It's funny because that's been out there since May, and I wrote how to do it like several months before that.
Post by: Wyst3r on February 20, 2005, 07:18:00 am
I don't use AIM becouse it doesn't work on my comp. I haven't tried using it for 6 months though, Might try install it again.
Edit: Aim seems to work now, New screen name(forgot old one
) is TheOmegod.Edit: Forget that, i'm on xgeomegax again.
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on February 20, 2005, 09:17:00 am
Arnie
Post by: Wyst3r on February 20, 2005, 09:21:00 am
Post by: Cervone on February 20, 2005, 10:53:00 am
vid (http://www.dan01.com/Henrik/)
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on February 20, 2005, 11:09:00 am
)Arnie
Post by: Boss on February 20, 2005, 04:45:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 21, 2005, 01:33:00 am
BTW nice time.
Glass opening cheater.
Post by: Jimbo on February 21, 2005, 02:39:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on February 21, 2005, 03:51:00 am
Also, 1:56 was never really a good record. It can go down to sub 1:53 even using old strat.
And Trent, That's not a piano solo. It's an arranged version of "Bizzaro Sephiroth" from FFVII for 2 pianos.
Post by: Illu on February 21, 2005, 12:12:00 pm
Yeah it can go sub 1:53 in theory but I doubt no one would ever have done it because it's so rare to get an completion on that level espesially with the old strat, more guards get alerted and stuff so it's often harder to survive.
Where the new strat wins so much time is not only that you pause during the comp explosions instead of wait but also you encounter no guards in the vents so you can just strafe trough them, that's alot easier, also lots more pausing result in a little bit faster pause at comps.
Though with the new strat you get the drone boost in the vents which looses some health, it's really hard to survive this level when going fast that's why I haven't still gone lower than 2:03 even though I've tried. It's really just a matter about if anyone manages to survive the level on a good completion, then we might see another untied soon.
Post by: Wyst3r on February 21, 2005, 12:40:00 pm
When talking strats i thought i could say this too. I thought that maybe it would be possible for the guy behind mainframe to get glass door opened if you lured him away a little bit so you have time to pause. Though soon i realized that only 1 guard never works. So then i tried getting the guard who opens the mainframe and the guy behind it to open it. I lured them away by hiding behind one of those wall thingy's and then when they were close i just ran past and closed mainframe while running to the glass. I got glass opened on my second try.
So if we don't lure them as far as i did but only a few meters then they should be faster than luring the exhaust room guards.
Post by: Boss on February 21, 2005, 03:37:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on February 21, 2005, 03:46:00 pm
Clear out black room like normal. Run past the guy behind mainframe while shooting to attract some exhaust room guards. Run to the corner and quickly make the guard here see you. Run back and hide behind the 3rd blue thing to the left when entering corridor. If you were fast enough mainframe guard shouldn't have seen you so just wait for him to reach you. When he's close enough run out, close mainframe and pause at glass. Now just do the rest like normal.
This strat seems to get guards more often by the glass(At least the first 2, Dunno about exhaust guys), Possibly faster(I'm not totally sure but i'll check after i've made 1:41 vid) and also easier to perform. May also be more consistent.
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on February 21, 2005, 04:24:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on February 22, 2005, 06:28:00 am
1:Around 80-90% of the time the glass opens if performed right! (I got it opened 5 times in a row)
2:Can only be used on Agent, Possibly SA(You'll get shot more and you'll have more guards by glass).
3:Usually 4 guards at glass(It's very rare that they don't go to the glass).
4:I have still no idea about the speed, Depends on how fast the mainframe guard is. It's either same speed as current strat or faster.
So, No more Aztec gayness, At least for Agent.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on February 22, 2005, 08:42:00 am
Post by: Imperfect Clark on February 22, 2005, 08:48:00 pm
And Jimbo? You are just a piece of siht, the end. If you don't have a faster time on Aztec 00 in 24 hours (with proof), I'm going to make fun of you on the front page.
Learn to be respectful.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 22, 2005, 11:12:00 pm
So, I had this really good run going on SA, right? I barely make it out the the drone room with no health. I check back towards double drone hallway, no guards. I'm good. I turn back the other way, peering around the corner. An AR33 guard comes, I kill him no sweat. So, should I round the corner and try to kill any other guards that might be there? Yes! Wham! I nail the AR33 guard standing there in the chest, while his buddy tags me in the head with a laser instantly, lol. I was killed at 19.20 seconds left, and the end time was 1:35. I was proud of myself, I didn't show any game rage, I just curled up into a ball with my hands over my head and sighed like Bond does when he gets shot. Also failed a 1:48 where I missed the floppy.
There must be a reason why stuff like this happens, the end. GJ!Post by: Boss on February 23, 2005, 12:56:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on February 23, 2005, 11:34:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on February 23, 2005, 02:15:00 pm
8-9 openings isn't very much in 90 minutes, I get it opened like 1/3 with my strat.
Post by: Boss on February 23, 2005, 03:33:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 23, 2005, 05:07:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on February 23, 2005, 06:36:00 pm
Post by: DarwinGE on February 25, 2005, 02:30:00 pm
Q. 2at frigate if u r throw that thing what u need on that heli if u throw that on water it is not failed or complete... uhuoh why not?
look my new times..
www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/ (http://www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/)
Total time are underconstrution i dont know how to do.. with my calculator??? i dont know or that is correct
Post by: Infected Mind on February 25, 2005, 04:00:00 pm
2nd: it fails later then usual if the bug falls in the water, not sure the reason behind this, but it will say failed, eventually
Post by: SpiderWaffle on February 25, 2005, 04:39:00 pm
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on February 25, 2005, 05:23:00 pm
-Matthijs
Post by: Your Eliteness on February 26, 2005, 12:27:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on February 26, 2005, 12:52:00 am
Post by: Illu on February 26, 2005, 09:08:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on February 26, 2005, 09:47:00 am
Post by: DarwinGE on February 26, 2005, 03:19:00 pm
i can explain it how it works... i think this is the biggest Error i found it by my self i will explain you monday.. ok srry see you there...
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on February 26, 2005, 03:41:00 pm
Arnie
Post by: Wyst3r on February 26, 2005, 03:41:00 pm
Well it sucked anyways so it couldn't stay untied forever.
Edit: Muhahahah i tied Bosshardt in Aztec points
Post by: Illu on February 26, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on February 26, 2005, 04:04:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on February 26, 2005, 04:33:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 26, 2005, 05:57:00 pm
Henrik is lucky that he lived with 4 bars. Henrik is unlucky if he dies with full health. Likewise, it's expected that you'll die with low health and live with full. Of course I got lucky with my run. I got hit 3 times by the drones even before I got into the big room.
Aztec is unlucky by default, so yes, Henrik got lucky. Everyone does if they complete a run. It's not like he was due or anything.
Jim, I'll be expecting you to untie that within a week. If you don't, I'm going to make a topic calling you gay.
EDIT: And my SA time took 16.
Post by: Jimbo on February 26, 2005, 08:17:00 pm
Post by: Boss on February 27, 2005, 03:02:00 am
Post by: Amoore347 on February 27, 2005, 04:08:00 am
-Adam
Post by: DarwinGE on February 28, 2005, 03:36:00 am
use the cheat unlimited ammo and enemy rockets and play the level Dam press start and use cover modem throw it away what ever where... just throw it away 30X then move forward.. and if u can see the guard cant shoot at you? lol.. and you cant shoot at him with the bazooka only with the pp7 and k5fj or something then move all the way to that big 2 doors what u need to open open the doors then u see a guard running to that alarm let him run if he turn the alarm kill him and the other 2 guards in the building then turn your face to the big doors... and VOILA! there you see 2 gaurds coming without any weapons.. not even a rockets launcher!
cool huh? i find it out by my self.... i think someone know this Error already isn't?
oho yea check my website.. it is complete
www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/ (http://www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/)
Post by: Wyst3r on February 28, 2005, 03:59:00 am
Post by: Lecmasta on February 28, 2005, 04:24:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on February 28, 2005, 05:35:00 am
media.ebaumsworld.com/aicha.wmv (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/aicha.wmv)
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on February 28, 2005, 03:00:00 pm
-Matthijs
Post by: DarwinGE on February 28, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
And everything what above the WR minutes is red, and everything what under the minutes is yellow duh! On my page
here is the link
www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/ (http://www.geocities.com/pdarkn64/)
No i don't get this from gamefaqs i found this by myself, and if u don't use the rockets launcher only the unlimited ammo, then they coming with k5fj Strange huh?
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on February 28, 2005, 04:55:00 pm
4 Jim Barrett 20:57 26:55 31:36 1:19:28
Post by: Wyst3r on February 28, 2005, 05:06:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 01, 2005, 12:41:00 am
Post by: Infected Mind on March 01, 2005, 05:54:00 pm
did you give up on facility 00 though?
Post by: DarwinGE on March 01, 2005, 06:07:00 pm
i'll never get those times...
Post by: Boss on March 01, 2005, 06:14:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 02, 2005, 04:00:00 am
Edit: Good job on 1:56 Trent
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 03, 2005, 11:29:00 pm
I made the following vids:
Facility SA :57
Caverns SA 1:25
Streets SA 1:56
Streets 00 1:56
Aztec SA 1:48
Aztec 00 1:55
Getfile me or Wouter, I'm sure he has them by now.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on March 04, 2005, 12:15:00 am
Post by: Cervone on March 04, 2005, 12:21:00 pm
Post by: ShadowZero64 on March 04, 2005, 12:21:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 04, 2005, 12:33:00 pm
Good job on 1:56 Trent(Again
).
Post by: DarwinGE on March 04, 2005, 01:09:00 pm
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on March 04, 2005, 09:14:00 pm
Good job on your first 300 point stage Trent, about time too
. Jimbo is a warned man...-Matthijs
Post by: Boss on March 04, 2005, 09:58:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 04, 2005, 11:23:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on March 05, 2005, 12:34:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Amoore347 on March 08, 2005, 10:07:00 pm
I now have a capture card and have made quite a few of my latest vids and some of my old stuff that Karl didn't capture. Also captured some oldish LTK stuff as well. You can get them from mine or Wouter's get file at the moment (should be in the new vids folder), although I am hoping for a better way in the future though.
-Adam
Post by: Jimbo on March 08, 2005, 10:13:00 pm
Can touch this.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 08, 2005, 11:41:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 11, 2005, 03:03:00 am
Post by: .. on March 11, 2005, 04:41:00 am
Or just tell me on AIM when you get them if you don't wanna unwhoard them for a long time and fear you might forget.
Post by: bcks on March 11, 2005, 09:33:00 am
Post by: Boss on March 11, 2005, 08:25:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on March 11, 2005, 09:02:00 pm
)In other news, I uploaded some vids of the whoarded times I got. The vids I put up are:
Surface 1 SA 1:50
Surface 1 00 1:50
Control A 4:02
Surface 2 00 1:34 (sweet vid, hehe)
Train A 1:11 (nothing special, but whatever)
Aztec SA 1:45
Aztec A 1:37
Egypt A 0:47 (would be 46 if I used normal strat)
Frigate A 0:25 (fastest hostages ever
)As always, www.dan01.com/gevids/ (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/)
Post by: Silent Thunder on March 12, 2005, 08:18:00 pm
My streets 1:14 is still the slowest 1:14 ever. 45.83.
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on March 14, 2005, 07:48:00 pm
Illu, I somehow envy you, 3:1 ratio on PAL will never become 1:56, not even with the fast Valentin imaginable. Now grab 00a!
-Matthijs
Post by: Cervone on March 14, 2005, 07:51:00 pm
Illu: Nice work there, 3/1 means your run must have been quite nice. Get the vid to me and I'll host it.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 14, 2005, 11:14:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 15, 2005, 08:57:00 am
Dammit, I want ntsc...I guess i'll have to wait for my B-day, only 6 months left...
Anyways, good job on those wr's ilari!
Edit: Oh lol, Ilari posted 00A just as i posted this
Post by: Illu on March 15, 2005, 09:30:00 am
I had no really good experience with the level before, had merely just run trough it before to cut some time. So it took awhile to first get used to the level and then getting the pieces together (about 8h) 00A came pretty fast after SA. That I've gotten used to 1.2 just recently was very helpful too of course. I actually tried it some on PAL when I was getting bored, I got 1:57s there but it did feel a little bit harder so I soon got back to NTSC and got the WRs.
I have to go over to my friend house to make vids so I can't be too sure when I have them but if not earlier then hopefully at the end of this week at least. Though Depot A and Streets A are made already.
Post by: Smit on March 15, 2005, 11:43:00 am
What is the name of that song you added to your 150 S1 00..
Its a really good song and I want it
(Iron Maiden Cover btw?)Love your Dream Theater in the S1 vid :P
@#%$ it, im going to play again
I WANT WR and Train sa back
Post by: Wyst3r on March 15, 2005, 01:20:00 pm
That music reminds be a bit of Manowar
Post by: Cervone on March 15, 2005, 04:13:00 pm
Ill: nice job again.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 16, 2005, 02:05:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 19, 2005, 12:32:00 am
1:18, here I come!
Post by: Cervone on March 20, 2005, 06:10:00 am
Also, here are vids for Illu's recent street wr's (SA/00):
Illu - Streets - SA - 1:56 (http://www.dan01.com/miscge/Illu%20-%20Streets%20-%20SA%20-%201.56.avi) | Illu - Streets - 00A - 1:56 (http://www.dan01.com/miscge/Illu%20-%20Streets%20-%2000A%20-%201.56.avi)
Post by: Illu on March 20, 2005, 09:58:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on March 22, 2005, 10:16:00 am
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on March 22, 2005, 04:47:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on March 22, 2005, 08:46:00 pm
Post by: Thomas-HL-Andrews on March 22, 2005, 09:05:00 pm
I don't think anyone can get close to the Factor, imo
Post by: psycho on March 22, 2005, 09:13:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on March 23, 2005, 06:19:00 am
ah well, nice time though.
Post by: Cervone on March 23, 2005, 06:45:00 pm
Post by: Boss on March 24, 2005, 04:45:00 am
Post by: JChrist-007 on March 24, 2005, 05:01:00 am
-Jessie
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on March 24, 2005, 01:09:00 pm
Good to see you are back in action Graham! I propose you sent the ntsc version for a few days so I can join the 1:56 club
.-Matthijs
Post by: Wyst3r on March 24, 2005, 01:39:00 pm
Good job on 56 Greg.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on March 24, 2005, 02:14:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 24, 2005, 02:57:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 25, 2005, 02:34:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 25, 2005, 03:37:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on March 25, 2005, 04:37:00 pm
Post by: Boss on March 25, 2005, 05:51:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 25, 2005, 05:52:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on March 25, 2005, 06:02:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on March 25, 2005, 06:38:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on March 25, 2005, 09:32:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on March 26, 2005, 04:12:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Cervone on March 26, 2005, 04:55:00 am
Post by: Boss on March 26, 2005, 05:49:00 am
And what I said there is based on NTSC. So far, Streets 156s are statistically easier than Depot 44.
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on March 28, 2005, 08:53:00 am
@ DarwinIf it gets deleted before you read it: he apologised for spamming in the WR topic... IN the WR topic
Post by: wishiwasfamous on March 28, 2005, 11:43:00 am
DON'T POST IN THE WR TOPIC UNLESS YOU GOT A WR.
It's so simple...
Post by: Axel A on March 28, 2005, 01:04:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on March 28, 2005, 09:09:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on April 06, 2005, 01:17:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on April 06, 2005, 01:29:00 pm
Post by: .. on April 06, 2005, 01:35:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on April 06, 2005, 02:32:00 pm
*awaits vid*
Post by: Boss on April 06, 2005, 04:09:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on April 06, 2005, 04:16:00 pm
Post by: Axel A on April 06, 2005, 05:31:00 pm
Great Job Cervonhuve, 107 with OLD strat, ownage
Post by: .. on April 06, 2005, 06:06:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on April 06, 2005, 06:23:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on April 06, 2005, 07:34:00 pm
www.dan01.com/gevids/ (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/) -- uploaded some new vids there (including 107).
Post by: darkako on April 06, 2005, 07:36:00 pm
edit: the original and the live ones by ozzy are much better
Post by: Infected Mind on April 06, 2005, 11:04:00 pm
also, GREAT MUSIC, DARKAKO DOESNT KNOW WHAT HES TALKING ABOUT 11!!!!!!11!!!!
on that note, that same song is used in my frigate 24
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 07, 2005, 12:31:00 am
*watches train 126 for the 342nd time*
Post by: Wyst3r on April 07, 2005, 06:48:00 am
Trent: No, You can't catch Dan but you still gotta catch Jim(Cmon, It's 15 points)
Post by: Cervone on April 07, 2005, 07:12:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on April 07, 2005, 08:16:00 am
Also, gj on SA 107 Dan. Although i'm disappointed in the music - i thought you had good taste
Arnie
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 08, 2005, 03:57:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 08, 2005, 08:18:00 am
Post by: Cervone on April 08, 2005, 08:36:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 08, 2005, 10:24:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 08, 2005, 11:00:00 am
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on April 08, 2005, 12:06:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on April 08, 2005, 12:29:00 pm
Post by: Boss on April 08, 2005, 01:30:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 08, 2005, 05:55:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on April 08, 2005, 06:22:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on April 08, 2005, 10:32:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 08, 2005, 10:38:00 pm
Post by: Matis on April 09, 2005, 02:05:00 am
Post by: bcks on April 09, 2005, 02:21:00 am
, i thought all the vets knew about it.
Post by: Wyst3r on April 09, 2005, 02:50:00 am
Or is it possible to shoot all 3 cameras from the top of the comms tower? That place would be the easiest if it does work + Probably the fastest(nade throw and 4th camera would be without breaking strafing lines).
Post by: bcks on April 09, 2005, 03:15:00 am
You can also do the camera's in order of 2/3/nade/4/1/mine throw/end, i've failed 138's that way(also have a 143 vid online of it, its only 2-3 secs slower then the normal strat, it make's the first camera very easy to take out.
You could also get 2 nades, and use the 2nd one to take out the 4th camera from the outside.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 09, 2005, 05:11:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 09, 2005, 05:53:00 am
Depending on how much time a 2 nade strat could save it might be considerable to wait out maybe both cinemas so more guards are in position and then wait a bit longer here so you can get 2. Else there should come guards when you're at the comms tower if you throw one nade on 3rd camera and shoot the 2nd from that area too.
Post by: Illu on April 09, 2005, 02:14:00 pm
Not the best locks Dan said, I agree, still good enough for 1:03 though, thanks to good strafing or something.
EDIT: Actually like on Alex's 1:04, those weren't too far from Wouter's 1:03 locks though, nah my locks we're great
Nah, you be the judge.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 10, 2005, 12:35:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 10, 2005, 03:18:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on April 10, 2005, 08:29:00 am
You should test out your guesses and questions.
Post by: Wyst3r on April 10, 2005, 08:34:00 am
Post by: Your Eliteness on April 10, 2005, 08:36:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 10, 2005, 08:40:00 am
Post by: Cervone on April 20, 2005, 11:07:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 20, 2005, 12:20:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on April 20, 2005, 12:32:00 pm
Dan rules
Post by: Illu on April 20, 2005, 12:35:00 pm
Damn nice job Dan, really sweet untied, congrats!
Post by: Infected Mind on April 20, 2005, 12:37:00 pm
1:19 is a sweet time, good job on that
Post by: bcks on April 20, 2005, 12:41:00 pm
Great job none the less to both of you.
Post by: Cervone on April 20, 2005, 01:18:00 pm
Some details on 1:18:
- No beginning boost
- Good gate
- First alarm destroyed in 6 shots.
- Got the lock on first shot, not in strafe.
- First alarm done in 5 fast shots.
- Second alarm done in 5 fast shots.
- Small stuck (.15ish) as I was turning the corner after second alarm.
- Last alarm done in 5 fast shots.
- End boost ratio was 0:0
- 1:17 will happen sometime, hehe.
Vid: Dam SA 1:18 (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/Dan%20C%20-%20Dam%20-%20SA%20-%20118%20(music).wmv)
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on April 20, 2005, 02:03:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on April 20, 2005, 02:51:00 pm
This is why I stopped playing.
GJ Illu too. And people.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 21, 2005, 04:55:00 am
Post by: bcks on April 21, 2005, 05:33:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 21, 2005, 09:17:00 am
A more interresting thing is SA time/points.
Post by: Imperfect Clark on April 21, 2005, 07:23:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 22, 2005, 01:41:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 22, 2005, 02:08:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on April 22, 2005, 02:25:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on April 22, 2005, 02:41:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on April 22, 2005, 03:19:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on April 24, 2005, 05:40:00 am
Post by: Boss on April 24, 2005, 11:38:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on April 24, 2005, 11:53:00 pm
ive noticed she differs her speed at the start by doing different animations
Post by: Cervone on April 25, 2005, 01:13:00 am
Post by: Boss on April 25, 2005, 02:07:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on April 25, 2005, 10:36:00 am
Post by: Cervone on May 08, 2005, 11:44:00 pm
Get 38 on 00.
Post by: Axel A on May 12, 2005, 01:50:00 pm
DJUNGELSPEL
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on May 12, 2005, 01:52:00 pm
Arnie
Post by: Axel A on May 12, 2005, 01:54:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on May 12, 2005, 02:26:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 12, 2005, 03:35:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on May 12, 2005, 04:50:00 pm
Oh yea, Forgot to post some PAL wr's i got:
Streets SA/00A 1:57
Runway 23(Was wr when i got it though)
Surface 1 A 1:04
Dam A 0:54
Runway 00A 0:39
Surface 2 A 0:53
That's the reason why PAL wr's shouldn't be posted in wr topic.
Off-topic: Nice lookin' rankings
Post by: Axel A on May 12, 2005, 05:09:00 pm
Post by: typosaur on May 12, 2005, 05:29:00 pm
And BTW, Alex, you talk about spamming threads. Durkmeister made it very clear, and in a polite manner, that I shouldn't have posted my PAL WR and I don't see the reason why you had to repeat the message.
And I don't think Runway Agent 0:23 should be considered a "gay time" when it is, in fact, a PAL WR.
Post by: Silent Thunder on May 12, 2005, 05:43:00 pm
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on May 12, 2005, 06:33:00 pm
There is not a big enough difference between NTSC and PAL GE to diffrentiate in this manner. PD, because of lifts and glitches, is another matter altogether (which is why Maian SOS, until Karl pwned it completely, and Deep Sea require seperate ranks). 99% of times possible on NTSC are possible on PAL, Dam 53 and Runway 22 are the only ones which are humanly impossible on PAL.
Therefore, Runway A 23 is not a world record. If you got a 7-boost run, that deserves recognition of some kind, but a WR it is not. If you are unhappy with this, get NTSC GE and prove that you can get 22, hence the skill needed to tie Bryan's 22. This is one level...if you think you have skills, then there are plenty of other gettable WRs. This is a discrepancy that PAL players have (even if it is only one boost worth) yet there are many good PAL players who have multiple records.
There is no need to petulant about the whole situation - of course the PAL/NTSC differences matter to l337ers, and there has been long and extended debate in PD and GE about these differences. The conclusion is that on strafing levels NTSC has a SLIGHT advantage (+ other little tidbits etc). Just, on this level, it happens to be an advantage that tips it over onto another second. This cannot be avoided, hence why there is no point differentiating between PAL and NTSC in the way that you clearly want. Also, i agree with Tim - 23 is a super-cake time that was the easiest record by an absolute mile to get whilst it was still the WR - it was tied by about 70 people.
Arnie
Post by: Your Eliteness on May 12, 2005, 06:54:00 pm
As a side note, there's no such thing as a PAL WR or an NTSC WR. There are PAL records and NTSC records, but neither is a world record.
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on May 12, 2005, 06:55:00 pm
Post by: .. on May 12, 2005, 08:03:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 12, 2005, 08:22:00 pm
2. None of the WR's are impossible on PAL. Dam 53, Runway 22 are simply very improbable. As is Bunker 2 24. Remember, Wouter did b1 17 on PAL...
3. 7 boost runs on Runway mean nothing, really. Here's what I mean. (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/Dan%20C%20-%20Runway%20-%20A%20-%20023%20(7%20boosts).AVI)
4. Random fact: I never even posted my Runway A 23 even though it was a WR when I got it.
5. Welcome to the boards, Typosaur. Getting 23 fast means you likely have good potential, so set up a times page and give us your name.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 12, 2005, 09:18:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on May 13, 2005, 02:04:00 am
Post by: Cervone on May 13, 2005, 07:18:00 am
Post by: Axel A on May 13, 2005, 08:52:00 am
Post by: Cervone on May 15, 2005, 09:05:00 pm
Details:
- Cut both cinemas immediately (unlike Bryan, Wouter, Illu).
- Good beginning area.
- Went to the left of the guard, injuring him as I did so.
- Got a decent (but not the best) gate.
- Good next gate
- Lock was fucking pwned.
- Used look up after lock, clean and direct straf lines on the top of the Dam.
- Used lookdown for the final section.
- No boost!
All I've got to say is that this level is seriously fucked up. Bryan gets 53 in 45 minutes, Illu gets 53 as his first WR. Wouter spends a lifetime getting it. I spend a lot of time getting it, and didn't even need a boost. I'm positive that I've had ending music that was ahead of this end, too. Ah well.... at least I get a nice 7 point gain and tied first on Dam LB.
Vid: 22 MB (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/Dan%20C%20-%20Dam%20-%20A%20-%20053%20(HR).avi) | 5 MB (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/Dan%20C%20-%20Dam%20-%20A%20-%20053.wmv) | music! (http://www.dan01.com/gevids/Dan%20C%20-%20Dam%20-%20A%20-%20053%20(music).wmv)
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on May 15, 2005, 09:08:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on May 16, 2005, 12:09:00 am
Good Job
Post by: Djie on May 16, 2005, 12:29:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on May 16, 2005, 08:12:00 am
Arnie
Post by: bcks on May 16, 2005, 08:23:00 am
Post by: Illu on May 16, 2005, 09:43:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on May 16, 2005, 10:15:00 am
Question: On Streets SA/00A when leaving Valentin, Ilari and Bryan is strafing into wall just beside Val. Then leaving almost immideadly and A completes. However, When i'm trying this i have to wait like 2 secs and it still wont complete. This is driving me nuts since i've now played for 35 minutes without even leaving Val. So is obj A extremely random or is my game just very gay?
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 16, 2005, 10:16:00 am
Post by: Illu on May 16, 2005, 10:43:00 am
This I really don't know but I think if a doesn't complete it's all about that you got too far from Val too early OBVIOUSLY I know.
But it might not matter if you get out of his sight (not sure about this) but only the distance, so try strafe Val as close to the wall as possible and when leaving take a sharp right turn so that you get behind the wall where Val is so that you get out of his sight but still keep close to him even if you're behind the wall.
Also don't forget that you just got NTSC, in the beginning I also was like wtf lol 1:15 streets A on that crap run or Dam 54 caked with a crappy lock or something. Most of this is just psychological bull crap, you start thinking the difference between PAL and NTSC is so clear but it's really not.
NTSC is faster than PAL on some levels but the difference is barely noticeable, what you experience in the beginning when you get NTSC is that it's faster but only a couple of tenths or so but you also think that it's faster and then you start believing that it's faster than it really is, makes sense?
Post by: Wyst3r on May 16, 2005, 11:08:00 am
About the Val thingy, I just stick with normal strafe spot and 2 slaps before leaving, seems to work pretty good.
Post by: Cervone on May 16, 2005, 11:43:00 am
Same thing with b2 agent sorta. At first I was getting all 28's till I got 27. Then 27 was easy, and I'd get that every time until 26. Then 26 was easy and I'd get it all the time until 25. Now I cake 25's and... will get 24 sometime.
And my 53 is sexy!
Post by: Wyst3r on May 16, 2005, 12:16:00 pm
Post by: reTylersis on May 16, 2005, 02:36:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 16, 2005, 05:25:00 pm
P.S. 1900 posts
Post by: Cervone on May 16, 2005, 08:48:00 pm
In other news, I have a total of 5 Dam 201s.
Post by: bcks on May 16, 2005, 10:48:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 17, 2005, 01:03:00 am
I turned the game music off because it was pissing me off, and because it's inaccurate anyway. This PR puts me into 3rd in total time.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 17, 2005, 01:14:00 am
btw, that first alarm area was so lucky, good job on that.
Post by: Cervone on May 17, 2005, 01:23:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on May 17, 2005, 01:36:00 am
OH yea, The details:
-Had two 1:57's in a row before this
-Like 13.8 switch or something
-50.4 end i belive
-1 boost before first roadblock
-nothing during roadblock
-2 boosts at second roadblock
Vid will come soonish(same with 00A)
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on May 17, 2005, 07:07:00 am
Post by: Illu on May 17, 2005, 07:21:00 am
I guess taking the lock in full strafe in SA and 00A is becoming more common now, perhaps playing Dam W/O music too
Sub 2 would really be something.
Great job Henrik too! You'll probably get 00A eventually too, boosts are easier to get but also backboosts, bigger risk of getting killed too but I guess those are pretty obvious facts.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on May 17, 2005, 11:56:00 am
Post by: Jimbo on May 17, 2005, 04:55:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 18, 2005, 11:03:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 18, 2005, 11:06:00 am
Post by: Cervone on May 18, 2005, 02:09:00 pm
Post by: bcks on May 20, 2005, 07:57:00 pm
Post by: Jimbo on May 23, 2005, 09:43:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 23, 2005, 11:08:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on May 23, 2005, 11:35:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 26, 2005, 02:38:00 pm
I believe end of July-mid August.
Post by: Boss on May 26, 2005, 03:11:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 26, 2005, 05:17:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on May 27, 2005, 01:55:00 am
I'd say 17:00 before next Tuesday, Then the last second sometime in the 2 weeks after that.
All 3 secs by Dan of course
Post by: SpiderWaffle on May 28, 2005, 09:42:00 am
That's what I've been thinking for years. Seriously, when's someone finally going to do the 2nd camera through hut with a good-decent (doesn't have to be great) rest of the run.
Post by: Cervone on May 28, 2005, 10:50:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on May 29, 2005, 12:49:00 am
Post by: Amoore347 on May 30, 2005, 12:40:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Illu on May 30, 2005, 09:33:00 am
Post by: Infected Mind on May 30, 2005, 12:58:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on May 31, 2005, 12:59:00 am
Post by: Cervone on May 31, 2005, 01:25:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on May 31, 2005, 01:56:00 am
Good job on that BS, Now get streets SA/00A
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on May 31, 2005, 01:38:00 pm
, Henrik...Quote
Quote:
Good job on that BS, Now get streets SA/00A
It looks like you are saying "Good job on that bullshit (BS)".
Hehe, nice job, bcks.
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on May 31, 2005, 05:04:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on May 31, 2005, 05:36:00 pm
Congrats and welcome back, dude.
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on May 31, 2005, 05:39:00 pm
gj.Arnie
Post by: Infected Mind on May 31, 2005, 05:54:00 pm
i think around 6 or so?
Good job Wouter!!!!
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on May 31, 2005, 06:27:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on May 31, 2005, 08:25:00 pm
I was very happy to see "Wouter Jansen" as last post, specifically for the WR topic. Will be fun to write the next WR site write-up with a Wouter WR in there. Hopefully more will show up, though I won't be expecting them.
And great run, very quick away from the key table and silky-smooth strafework through the house and to the finish.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on May 31, 2005, 09:29:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on May 31, 2005, 09:34:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on June 01, 2005, 01:57:00 am
Kinda unexpected to see a post on these forums though, Is it becouse you're in the voting today?
Alex, i belive he got 7.
Post by: Amoore347 on June 01, 2005, 02:01:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 01, 2005, 04:34:00 am
9 0:44s before 0:43. Quite a few failed 0:43s where obj a (sometimes also obj c) were failed. 1 failed 0:43 where I only failed obj C (how stupid..) Quite a lot of 43 speed runs where I missed the trainshot, indeed. I completed 1 0:45 missing the trainshot, also failed 1 0:45 (obj a).
obj A completed about once an hour on average (little guess, could be a bit more).
Now I'll just be waiting until someone sees the little thing I added to my run to make it more fun perhaps (if you know what to pay attention to). I wonder who will catch it first time seeing it. I even wonder who will catch it first
Post by: Amoore347 on June 01, 2005, 04:54:00 am
-Adam
Post by: bcks on June 01, 2005, 05:33:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 01, 2005, 05:35:00 am
using 1.2 is 1 of them.
Post by: bcks on June 01, 2005, 07:36:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 01, 2005, 07:37:00 am
1) 1.2
2) closing first gate behind my back
3) double strafe switch entering the building
4) watching outro
5) no crosshair moving
Post by: Wyst3r on June 01, 2005, 09:17:00 am
Edit: Ah forget that. Another guess instead, No unarmed in safe house?
Post by: Boss on June 01, 2005, 11:37:00 am
I was like "dammit you better move it up."
Post by: wishiwasfamous on June 01, 2005, 12:18:00 pm
I keed.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 01, 2005, 12:34:00 pm
either way, no correct answer has been posted so far, although about 4 people know it now. I'd rather want someone else but those 4 to post the correct answer though! Someone that found it out all on his own.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on June 01, 2005, 01:30:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on June 01, 2005, 06:56:00 pm
Basically the 1:49 I mentioned needs insane boosting and solid strafing and probably on 00 Agent. I did have a failed run with 7 boosts and some very minor mistakes that was low 1:50 pace (got stuck on guard at bottom of stairs, so I don't know for sure). Btw, I don't think you're runs were too far off 1:50 Wouter. Basically just get the lines right between buildings without breaking lookdown and no more than 1 backboost and 1:50 should come. Also with the GL I think it does more harm than good because you are looking up and slowing down with lag.
EDIT: forgot to mention, Wouter, I used cruise, I can't use 1.2. There is no difference or advantage imo of using 1.2 over cruise on this level though.
-Adam
Post by: Cervone on June 01, 2005, 08:51:00 pm
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on June 01, 2005, 09:48:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on June 02, 2005, 01:35:00 am
Post by: Boss on June 02, 2005, 02:15:00 am
Post by: Cervone on June 13, 2005, 11:51:00 pm
wtg Peter.
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on June 14, 2005, 03:08:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 14, 2005, 06:12:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on June 15, 2005, 06:21:00 am
Arnie
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 15, 2005, 09:33:00 am
Post by: Jimbo on June 15, 2005, 12:18:00 pm
Post by: 007-Emile on June 15, 2005, 12:28:00 pm
(in case you were going to delete your post in the WR topic and post it in the PR topic)
good job!
Post by: Cervone on June 15, 2005, 01:00:00 pm
For the first time in a long time I'm thinking about playing some cradle. But I won't of course.
Post by: Axel A on June 15, 2005, 01:14:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on June 15, 2005, 02:08:00 pm
nice time
Also a GJ to Henrik
Post by: Illu on June 15, 2005, 02:46:00 pm
Good Job Henrik too
Post by: wishiwasfamous on June 15, 2005, 02:58:00 pm
Go w00ter!
Post by: Cervone on June 15, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
Post by: deletedprofile.u on June 15, 2005, 06:20:00 pm
Post by: 007-Emile on June 15, 2005, 06:25:00 pm
I once said Bryan is a better player than Wouter, but Bryan not touching Wouters 51 and Wouter even made his own untied 51 to 50.... tells me a lot.
I think if Wouter will keep this up... GE is getting maxed for like 55 levels.
Post by: bcks on June 15, 2005, 07:02:00 pm
It must have been close to 49, never seen a boost leaveing the "a" area.
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on June 15, 2005, 09:58:00 pm
And it's funny how you didn't shoot that lonely bullet after the trainshot. If I were you, I would have shot it for sure.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on June 16, 2005, 01:49:00 am
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on June 16, 2005, 02:27:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 16, 2005, 03:12:00 am
Post by: Amoore347 on June 16, 2005, 03:36:00 am
-Adam
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 16, 2005, 10:04:00 am
Both Depot Records were gotten with 1.2.
For both records I did NOT use dot. (was too lazy to install it
)I like how you can hear the guards opening the gate again on my way to obj A room.
I put music all the way down, seems to be more relaxed playing.
I failed 1 legit 49, and also 1 50 quitout.
Post by: Boss on June 16, 2005, 12:23:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on June 23, 2005, 07:14:00 am
(haven't seen the vid yet though )On a side note: I'll get my comp back on Tuesday
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 25, 2005, 04:11:00 am
Post by: bcks on June 25, 2005, 06:03:00 am
Stay away from caverns for awhile.
I think im good luck or something, every time i get a wr, you get a untied the next or same day.
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on June 25, 2005, 06:36:00 am
Wow........never thought i'd see that. gj wouter.
Arnie
Post by: PerfectTaste on June 25, 2005, 09:28:00 am
Post by: Illu on June 25, 2005, 09:50:00 am
but good job Brandon!Do I need to mention Wouter too? Yeah very nice
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on June 25, 2005, 09:56:00 am
Excellent job, finally the long-awaited 1:13 came (and it's for real this time ).
Post by: Infected Mind on June 25, 2005, 11:07:00 am
Post by: Cervone on June 25, 2005, 12:04:00 pm
And Wouter.... congratulations! Very good-looking run and 47.08 gets 113 with authority.
Edit: Oh, and that's 1:16:59. Go Elite!
Post by: Boss on June 25, 2005, 03:27:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on June 25, 2005, 05:28:00 pm
-Adam
Post by: 007-Emile on June 25, 2005, 05:42:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on June 25, 2005, 10:55:00 pm
Doesn't someone owe you 1 US dollar for this?
Post by: SpiderWaffle on June 25, 2005, 11:01:00 pm
Post by: bcks on June 25, 2005, 11:07:00 pm
All the people that use music checkpoints will surely disagree about that.
Post by: Cervone on June 25, 2005, 11:16:00 pm
SW 2: Indeed, while this could make sense logically, the difference is probably negligible. I've been turning music off lately but only because it's more relaxing. One way to look at is that there's no reason why it would be slower, but I dunno.
Brandon: You jinxed me!
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Post by: matt8k on June 26, 2005, 01:31:00 am
dammit, i just burnt a cd of all the fastest movies, now i have to make a new one
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on June 26, 2005, 01:43:00 am
@#%$ good run Wouter. Congrats!
Post by: bcks on June 26, 2005, 01:58:00 am
1:12.92 + .75 (1 guard cinema)= 1:13.67 run, give or take .01+
1-guard cinema add .75
2-guard cinema add .85
I've testesd this many time, its the difference in cinemas is .1, give or take a .01.(thats far too hard to find out.)
So wouter could have gotten 1:13 with a 3:46.75 or 3:46.76 to be safe, based on the cinema he had.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 26, 2005, 04:34:00 am
lowest known end timer to get 1:14 (thus 1 guard cinema) = 3:45:75
highest known end timer that didn't get 1:14 (2 guard cinema) = 3:45:86 (thus 3:45:87 would give 1:14; but appearantly also 3:45:86 sometimes gives 1:14 still. therefor give or take .01)
difference = 0.12 (.87 - .75)
I had 1 guard intro. I needed 3:46:75. I got 3:47:08.
difference = 0.33
1:13.99 - 0.33 = 1:13.66
Post by: PerfectTaste on June 26, 2005, 07:24:00 am
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on June 26, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
-Matthijs
Post by: Light on June 26, 2005, 06:49:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on June 26, 2005, 07:59:00 pm
053/117/158
046/055/055
022/023/038
103/149/149
017/022/106
104/111/129
023/104/108
051/053/127
024/049/104
219/219/219
016/055/055
113/155/155
026/043/050
105/141/209
052/055/056
358/410/412
102/121/138
035/036/036
132/140/144
046/046/046
20:07 / 25:44 / 29:34
1:15:25
Those aren't all human maxes, either.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 27, 2005, 03:50:00 am
Post by: Jimbo on June 27, 2005, 01:59:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on June 28, 2005, 10:12:00 am
*will never ever get a WR
*You get Steve's dollar though!
2000 POSTS!!!!!
Post by: Amoore347 on June 28, 2005, 10:04:00 pm
-Adam
Post by: Wyst3r on June 29, 2005, 11:57:00 am
Well anyways, All my latest pr's are now captured in GOOD QUALITY! No sound though so instead i put some music on them(Frigate SA rules). Also remade B2 25. Runway SA/Streets 00A remakes comin up soonish.
Post by: Cervone on July 16, 2005, 11:47:00 am
(This is the correct WR discussion topic)
Post by: typosaur on July 16, 2005, 01:08:00 pm
Seeing how some few players are still struggling with the 27's, I wonder who will be the 20th person to get this WR.. assuming that Wouter do count as a person as well.
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on July 16, 2005, 01:48:00 pm
Nice job, Brandon.
Post by: bcks on July 16, 2005, 02:47:00 pm
, buy yeah, go for lower. Derek will be impressed, so will i.
Post by: wishiwasfamous on July 16, 2005, 02:48:00 pm
Post by: Illu on July 16, 2005, 02:59:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 16, 2005, 03:08:00 pm
And great job, Brandon, Dan.
Post by: Wyst3r on July 16, 2005, 04:25:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 16, 2005, 04:38:00 pm
Time lost on messing up these cameras far exceeds that from stucks and such.
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 16, 2005, 05:52:00 pm
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on July 16, 2005, 06:01:00 pm
Looking through your max predictions, Dan, you say that S2 00 can be lowered to 56.....how? Insane cam shots or something? Humanly possible?
Also, don't count on me being the 20th person on getting depot 26, i've stopped going for it (for the meantime). Typo will probably be the 20th person to get it, seeing as he seems to PR with so much ease. And has immeasurably more GE skills than me.
Arnie
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 16, 2005, 09:03:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 16, 2005, 10:37:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on July 17, 2005, 12:52:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on July 17, 2005, 03:49:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on July 17, 2005, 03:52:00 am
Arnie
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 17, 2005, 05:52:00 am
as for shooting grenades from insane distances (blindly), there's no need of a single extra grenade for any of them. basically you'd be able to do the agent strat, shoot at cams while strafing (or perhaps normal running shortly). after getting grenade you hit the first camera as well with the same clip somehow, then do the 2nd and 3rd, then prime the nade and throw it from beneath, giving you a b oost to the 4th camera. then finish. so assuming going in the comms tower and back on track is 4 seconds, and the rest is possible in 52, 56 is feasible.
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on July 17, 2005, 09:20:00 am
Quote
Quote:
The practice comes in just playing out the no-grenade runs... and this one showed that even those runs can result in PRs if the GE Gods are feeling merciful
haha, exactly!
go Dan!
-Matthijs
Post by: Smit on July 19, 2005, 04:57:00 am
I am expecting a link to some proof soon
Keep up the good work
Post by: Wyst3r on July 19, 2005, 05:30:00 am
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on July 19, 2005, 10:05:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on July 19, 2005, 12:44:00 pm
Arnie
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 19, 2005, 01:36:00 pm
Post by: reTylersis on July 19, 2005, 01:54:00 pm
Post by: Illu on July 19, 2005, 02:11:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 19, 2005, 04:31:00 pm
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on July 19, 2005, 04:53:00 pm
Arnie
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 19, 2005, 05:10:00 pm
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on July 19, 2005, 05:20:00 pm
Dan first warning, don't spam in our holy Rayola WR topic. Thanks for your cooperation.
-Matthijs
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 20, 2005, 11:18:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 20, 2005, 11:28:00 pm
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on July 21, 2005, 04:06:00 pm
-Matthijs
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 21, 2005, 06:54:00 pm
Post by: bcks on July 23, 2005, 03:24:00 pm
Post by: Smit on July 23, 2005, 03:26:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on July 23, 2005, 03:50:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on July 23, 2005, 04:00:00 pm
Post by: Smit on July 23, 2005, 04:05:00 pm
Tie is fine right
Post by: typosaur on July 23, 2005, 04:57:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 23, 2005, 05:13:00 pm
Post by: PerfectTaste on July 24, 2005, 08:51:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on July 24, 2005, 11:47:00 am
Post by: Smit on July 24, 2005, 11:57:00 am
Post by: Matthijsdadutchman on July 24, 2005, 02:00:00 pm
-Matthijs
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 26, 2005, 03:22:00 pm
Post by: bcks on July 26, 2005, 11:11:00 pm
Post by: Narigutita on July 27, 2005, 01:44:00 am
GE is getting more interesting
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 27, 2005, 12:40:00 pm
lol
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 27, 2005, 01:38:00 pm
Did anyone ever resolve the issue with only needing to rescue 4 hostages on SA and 5 on 00? Paragon once failed a 59 on SA saving 4 hostages (with bug throw), pre-pipewarp. And Eise only rescued 4.... Who knows what the hell is achievable on this level.
Post by: Boss on July 27, 2005, 01:55:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on July 27, 2005, 02:00:00 pm
1: Bug throw, agent hostages, go downstairs, free both downstairs hostages, get out bomb defuser, defuse bomb, warp pipes without ever switching weapons, defuse engine bomb (no pause needed), exit. This is pretty much the current strat but without an extra pause or taking time to kill bridge hostage taker.
2: Bug throw, agent hostages, warp pipes, engine hostage, engine bomb, warp pipes, bridge hostage, bridge bomb. This strat is probably both faster and easier to complete than the above strat. Obviously, both strats would be hell to do.
Post by: Smit on July 28, 2005, 02:04:00 pm
Gonna give it a try soon ^^
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 28, 2005, 03:13:00 pm
Post by: Wyst3r on July 28, 2005, 03:55:00 pm
Post by: bcks on July 28, 2005, 06:43:00 pm
Post by: SpiderWaffle on July 28, 2005, 09:54:00 pm
warp, engine stuff, warp, agent stuff, bridge stuff
I've heard warping from the other side is much harder though.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 28, 2005, 10:48:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on July 29, 2005, 04:37:00 am
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 29, 2005, 02:48:00 pm
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2: Bug throw, agent hostages, warp pipes, engine hostage, engine bomb, warp pipes, bridge hostage, bridge bomb. This strat is probably both faster and easier to complete than the above strat. Obviously, both strats would be hell to do.
If the engine hostage is a problem, perhaps you could save the hostage that's nearest the door to the engine room (who's going to get shot if you just run straight to the bomb). Whip around and wound his guy after coming down the stairs, kill him on the way back. Could be faster than the engine hostage?
Also, SW's suggestion has the advantage of clearing out the bridge of guards on the initial run around it, and you have to do the pipes backwards exactly once on any variation of strat 2, so why not try it? You'd get the backwards warp out of the way early in the run, too.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on July 29, 2005, 03:09:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on July 29, 2005, 04:07:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on July 29, 2005, 06:31:00 pm
Post by: Boss on August 07, 2005, 11:19:00 pm
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1 - Drawbacks to KF7 strat (other than getting the gun)?
2 - No explanation for why guards get mad on (apparently) clean Trev shots?
1. I didn't try it much except just completing the strat for the first time or so (best time is 223 with it). Basically it's slow to get and inaccurate anyways.
2. Just treat it as luck at this point. As long as you get shots that felt solid, eventually it won't fail you. What I do know is that Agent is the most annoying when it comes to B fails. SA/00A are just so much nicer to play.
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 08, 2005, 03:09:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 09, 2005, 01:11:00 am
Post by: bcks on August 09, 2005, 01:18:00 am
Now you must kill a lion in africa with your bares hands to be pimp.
Post by: deletedprofile.u on August 09, 2005, 01:32:00 am
Post by: Cervone on August 09, 2005, 01:54:00 am
With all the Statue talk recently I couldn't resist giving this a try. Even though my Val strafing took a major hit as I played this level on 1.2 (as this run shows to some degree), I was able to gain back time on other places, such as the Trev shot (which sucks to do on 1.1).
This had been the longest-lasting untied WR (tied with Bryan's 00 2:20), at around 820 days.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 03:46:00 am
Post by: bcks on August 09, 2005, 04:26:00 am
, 2 wrs in tonight.
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 09, 2005, 05:59:00 am
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 09, 2005, 11:26:00 am
haha
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 09, 2005, 11:38:00 am
It's kinda odd that you couldn't see the ammo bar and ammo icons...
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 12:02:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on August 09, 2005, 02:29:00 pm
Post by: bcks on August 09, 2005, 02:37:00 pm
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It's kinda odd that you couldn't see the ammo bar and ammo icons...
You can turn those off you know.
Dan copyed me.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 02:45:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 02:47:00 pm
When you want to play a game for scores, you play on the original system with an original cartridge, and a regular pad (not turbo), you don't need ANYTHING else. (except a TV and some electricity
).All people here can use dots, and many do so, but I'm sure 90% of people outside t-e.n, I mean those who download vids at SDA and don't know t-e.n, would consider that like cheating... and I can understand those people.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 03:01:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 03:11:00 pm
It's easier than answering to what I said.
Congrats.
oh maybe you could add 'you suck' or 'bytyan', that would make your point even more convincing.
Post by: Jimbo on August 09, 2005, 03:37:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 09, 2005, 03:42:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on August 09, 2005, 03:59:00 pm
And yeah, heh, I only turned off showing ammo just to fuck around. It's kind of fun on s2 because there's no visual distinction between unarmed/nade/remote mine, so there was always the tiny chance that when I would have tried to prime the nade a slap would have come up instead.
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
I wasn't saying it's cheating, I just used the example of people who don't know t-e.n and download GE vids at SDA. They don't know people use dots on those vids. And I can understand how they would think it's cheating if you suddenly let them know about dots.
When you play on your own for scores, you don't think about dots, you just get a tv, a system, a cartridge and a pad, because you don't need more ! That's the problem, people outside t-e.n don't know and couldn't think about dots being allowed for WRs because this has no sense.
There should be at least 1 sentence on the rankings page or somewhere on the site which says what are dots and that they are allowed.
You top GE guys are still the best, with or without dots, and obviously because everyone is allowed to use them, that's just not what I'm talking about.
Post by: Infected Mind on August 09, 2005, 04:21:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on August 09, 2005, 04:22:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 05:11:00 pm
This has nothing to do with this discussion... how much it helps is irrevelant here.
The rules have to be clear for everyone. People who're not active on the boards can't know about dots being allowed. They don't have to 'realize' that something OUTSIDE the game, a supplementary accessory (and CC isn't ...
) is allowed, we have to explain it .I dare to think t-e.n is a bit more than just our small active community on boards, it's a website which is for everyone's eyes. Sure 'we' know dots are allowed so thats not cheating since we can use it , but people who just check the ranks or the vids can't know.
That's why I said, if someone outside t-e.n downloads GE vids, he won't think about dots being allowed, and then if you tell him about this, he can have the feeling of 'this is cheating'. If the rules are clear and explained on the site, that's different, visitors know what is allowed or not and then they can make their own opinion about what they watched. It's about t-e.n's legitimacy as a good ranking site to explain (and not hide) the rules. Else that's just some small community which only cares about itself (then why SDA should host t-e.n vids if we don't care about other people watching them ?) and I do think it would be a shame.
Adding a description about dots on the ranking site is not making a big deal about a tiny factor. Tiny or big, it's still a factor. The question is : what's the big deal about explaining precisely the rules ?
Hence, what's the big deal of just explaining that something allowed is allowed ?
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 05:24:00 pm
so you are telling me all these other strategies we come up with, everyone outside of the elite simply thinks of it like *poof* and they know the strategy without ever having any elite kind of help? Think of the aztec strat, statue strat, caverns 00, there's a million of strats that outside people will not know unless they are smart and find them out theirselves or if they find us and let us help them find things out.
How can it be a problem anyway? it makes aiming easier, it does not make impossible things possible. if I didn't use dot I'd still have most my PRs, and other PRs would only take longer to achieve, but I'd get the same times in the end.
"because you don't need more !"
you don't need clothes to live but do you ever go outside without clothes on? etc
"The rules have to be clear for everyone if you want something fair."
they can always simply ask us if they can do something they aren't sure about.
you don't need a dot anyway. if you're lucky enough to have a tv where the exact middle pixel is dead, works just as well. we're only adding a feature the programmers forgot to add ourselves. you're not going to win this...
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 05:38:00 pm
Oh well there's still one sentence where you didn't answer bullshit so I'm gonna answer to this one.
'they can always simply ask us if they can do something they aren't sure about.'
Yup they can, but it's easier if they don't have to.
Isolating some sentences and answering bullshit to look clever (like the clothes stuff or the strat stuff which is 1000 miles away from what I was saying and you know it) is an easy game, I'm not going to play this we you. So yeah you won that stupid game. By far.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 05:43:00 pm
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 05:48:00 pm
Post by: .. on August 09, 2005, 05:50:00 pm
Maybe this would be a nice time for me to pick up where I left off on the GE Elite FAQ, but that would require me not being lazy. I'll remember this discussion for whenever I do bother with it, though.
Post by: Wabs on August 09, 2005, 05:52:00 pm
I'd be happy to help you about this kind of FAQ though if you're making one.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 09, 2005, 05:53:00 pm
Post by: .. on August 09, 2005, 05:55:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on August 10, 2005, 10:18:00 am
And on top of that, there is no point in complaining about it either, because you can do it too.
-Adam
Post by: Wabs on August 10, 2005, 11:05:00 am
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Anyway, I've posted enough, I'm not gonna post anymore about dots in this topic. Better comeback to WR discussion.
Congrats for that 24 Wouter, I thought all your PRs were already proven.
And you know I like you
good job and good luck for this 23 !
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 10, 2005, 01:25:00 pm
let's just hope it doesn't need to go that far though.
Post by: Wyst3r on August 10, 2005, 01:33:00 pm
Well anyways, Good job! And get 39/38 on runway too so you'll have everything proven
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 10, 2005, 01:49:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 10, 2005, 02:02:00 pm
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on August 10, 2005, 09:09:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 10, 2005, 09:53:00 pm
AND GJ WOUTER.... I'm sure this feels almost as good as the first, knowing how you feel about taping. Are you going to abandon Frigate agent now? Did you see Obj A pop up at all?
And about all that dot controversy that got dredged up... a well advertised FAQ would be a good addition to the site, yes. I would enjoy writing one. I must add that I think the greatest argument for the dot's inclusion is the in-game presence of one in PD. It seems more of a point of style that there isn't one in GE, and in principle (with respect to the game) doesn't seem too reprehensible. In principle *outside* of the game... a staunch interpretation would have to exclude it, yes. I think cruise is a little more suspect because it actively contributes to the controls. But in the end we have to include both because there's no way to detect for them in videos--this is just being realistic. Fortunately neither of them affect gameplay to the point where people can't be compete at the *highest* level without them.
And Jimbo, just swallow your pride and use a dot so you'll shut up. Just visualize your pride as a Sterling Marlin's penis, and you'll get it down easily
Post by: Boss on August 10, 2005, 11:32:00 pm
www.geocities.com/bbosshardt007/GEtips.html
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 11, 2005, 12:20:00 am
*awaits banishment*
Post by: bcks on August 11, 2005, 12:34:00 am
, assuming matthijs doesn't use it.
Post by: Jimbo on August 11, 2005, 12:36:00 am
1. I am already pwnage enough to not use dot. I am most accurate player in elite AND I haven't used a dot, suck on that.
2. I would much rather be "highest ranked player without a dot" (4th place) than just 4th place and having no distinction.
Also, Clark, Sterling Marlin finished 9th at Indianapolis, getting $209,000 in the process, WORST time for that kind of comment
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 11, 2005, 12:43:00 am
#2 was a valid response. On #1 you must concede is speculation. You think you're more accurate without a dot than others are with one? Bold claim. We need to devise some sort of GE skills competition. Like, best of 3 on random challenges such as some random path to strafe through Statue, or some sequence of cameras to shoot... various skills. Imagine it... the Elite Olympics. *ideas burgeoning*
Post by: Jimbo on August 11, 2005, 01:22:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 11, 2005, 03:36:00 am
as for Jim, I never used dot either, and you can not disprove me@!!!! pwned
if you really think that you're better without dot than EVERYONE ELSE WITH DOT, then omg how come the levels where dot matters the most you SUCK at? dam sa, b2 sa/00 etc etc omfg mr lame claim.
Post by: Wyst3r on August 11, 2005, 04:45:00 am
And great job Dan!
Post by: Infected Mind on August 11, 2005, 04:54:00 am
<3 dan
Post by: Jimbo on August 11, 2005, 12:42:00 pm
As for the trainshot, you're probably watching my old vids, I only used that strat to play conservative, as 0:45 / 0:53 are easily achievable with that trainshot, why gamble? Believe me, I can do trainshot on command, if anything, it's my nerves that @#%$ me up when I'm on some pwnage run.
Post by: Cervone on August 11, 2005, 01:13:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 11, 2005, 02:43:00 pm
I'm not joking
yes I am
Post by: Jimbo on August 11, 2005, 04:20:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 11, 2005, 05:19:00 pm
Post by: 007-Emile on August 11, 2005, 05:59:00 pm
I am like respecting you 200% for your great amount of skills!
I think you are the best GoldenEye MultiPlayer EVER!!!
Even that you cant use that RC-P90 and still win... MAN!!!!!!
I wish I was as good as you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strangecosmos.com%2Fimages%2Fcontent%2F105916.jpg&hash=85f6bb20f6bb993ec244c8a77e0c5e30e2309559)
Post by: Jimbo on August 11, 2005, 09:20:00 pm
Post by: Infected Mind on August 12, 2005, 02:57:00 am
Jim needs to chill, and I like peanut butter
Post by: bcks on August 12, 2005, 04:21:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on August 12, 2005, 05:00:00 am
Gj on statue Dan
. And gj Wouter, not long 'til 23 i bet.Arnie
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 12, 2005, 06:32:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on August 12, 2005, 11:35:00 am
Post by: SpiderWaffle on August 12, 2005, 12:04:00 pm
Post by: 007-Emile on August 13, 2005, 09:13:00 am
Yes I suck at GE.. but that still doesn't have to mean I can find you an arrogant @#%$ or not!
Anyway, posted here cuz I somehow forgot it in my last post;
Good going Dan.. I still find it amazing you're able to compete with Wouter and Bryan !!
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on August 13, 2005, 11:33:00 pm
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on August 14, 2005, 08:20:00 pm
(late again, meh)
Post by: Cervone on August 14, 2005, 10:50:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 15, 2005, 02:39:00 am
Post by: bcks on August 15, 2005, 03:07:00 am
Great Job none the less, you beat me to all the wrs'.
Post by: .. on August 21, 2005, 02:34:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on August 21, 2005, 03:51:00 am
It's gonna be really fun to see what happens to the oldest wr's page in the future since the maxed wr's are slowly gaining their ranks.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 21, 2005, 06:51:00 am
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 28, 2005, 09:55:00 am
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on August 28, 2005, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: Imperfect Clark on August 29, 2005, 03:05:00 pm
FYI to Laercia: only post in the WR topic if you have a record; this the topic for feedback. This was started when the topic was getting flooded with messages and records were getting overlooked!
Post by: typosaur on August 29, 2005, 03:30:00 pm
Post by: PerfectTaste on August 29, 2005, 03:32:00 pm
Post by: Laercio-Rodolfo on August 30, 2005, 12:52:00 pm
Ah yes, congrats Ilari!
Post by: Djie on September 02, 2005, 06:47:00 pm
go Dan!
Post by: wishiwasfamous on September 02, 2005, 08:40:00 pm
Post by: jungle-bell-cat on September 03, 2005, 05:15:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on September 03, 2005, 07:50:00 am
Post by: wishiwasfamous on September 03, 2005, 03:09:00 pm
Post by: PerfectTaste on September 04, 2005, 09:33:00 am
My run was smooth, good hut! The 3rd time I had "the crazy trainshot". I hit the guy inside the train but a dont complete and then the guy opens the "roller door" and a completes when im about to go in the train. Wicked. Taped.
Proof (http://highscore80.wootwax.org/records/proof/26depota.jpg) (Maybe capture in 2 weeks)
Edit: 1:30:59
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 04, 2005, 02:52:00 pm
Post by: wishiwasfamous on September 05, 2005, 01:52:00 am
Post by: PerfectTaste on September 05, 2005, 03:24:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on September 05, 2005, 05:48:00 am
Arnie
Post by: ShadowZero64 on September 05, 2005, 05:53:00 am