Post by: 007-Emile on June 18, 2005, 08:44:00 am
we can link the PAL version and NTSC version above ??
Cuz actually, Im getting pretty tired of my PAL system, talked to Wouter a bit about it some time ago. Seems like almost all things are faster on NTSC and many times therefor much more easier to obtain.
Im not wining or anything... just asking if two different Rankings can be made and link those sites above the Complete Rankings.
Post by: Infected Mind on June 18, 2005, 10:19:00 am
imo you should invest the 30 or so dollars into a new ntsc system and ge
but a pal/ntsc ranks would be appropriate
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on June 18, 2005, 11:12:00 am
I might invest in an NTSC N64 at some point, might make games like MK and F-Zero more fun.
Arnie
Post by: 007-Emile on June 18, 2005, 11:27:00 am
Didn't know that.
But like I said,.. I'm not wining because of my PALish system, Just wanna know how I stand on Pal Rankings, and how the Rankings just look like that way.
It's just a suggestion, I really have no idea if someone is able to fix this within an easy 15 minutes, or if many hours of work are needed.
<3
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 18, 2005, 02:47:00 pm
Post by: Illu on June 18, 2005, 03:04:00 pm
When doing agent runs I rarely got lower than 1:25 (on like 5 times I got to Train) and when I tried on PAL I got 1:20 and 1:22 on a couple of speedruns. Dunno if it's overall a matter of more than a sec but I seem to get fast times more consistently on Train PAL.
Dunno really about the different difficulties but all my Train PRs are done on PAL. You tell what you think Wouter after trying Train again on NTSC and PAL.
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on June 18, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
Post by: Amoore347 on June 18, 2005, 05:29:00 pm
I'd love to see some PAL/NTSC rankings.
-Adam
Post by: Cervone on June 18, 2005, 09:46:00 pm
1. All current Goldeneye world records are possible on both PAL and NTSC. There are no exceptions. This is not the case with Perfect Dark, thus forming the logic for creating separate world record tables for PAL/NTSC.
2. Where I come from, PAL is most commonly recognized as the Police Athletic League.
Post by: 007-Emile on June 19, 2005, 12:32:00 pm
Bryan told everyone not to go for Runway SA 0.23 on PAL.... or playing 1.1
On that stage I could tell immediately it was possible, sort of perfect run and 5 boosts were recuired.
NTSC needs 4... and a normal run
That's just one level that pisses me of a lot! I told you before I got several 7:0 runs, even 8:0 runs....
on NTSC I probably have that so called amazing 22.
Thats just the level I can play best.. and it really pisses me of.
Every PAL player knows he has his disadvantages in this game. Look what Wouter improved when he got his NTSC system... for those not been around Wouter's first rapes.... he improves Depot SA and 00A.... NTSC...
"@#%$ Wouter, that's a good time.. how the hell did you manage to improve them?"
- ,,I played NTSC"
"Does it really makes that difference?"
- ,,Yeah, door opening and all random stuff just goes faster"
This discussion has been going many years, and you're a tremendous good player, and always played NTSC... so you didnt witness the disadvantages yourself.
And like I said before,
Im not crying in my chair me not having the NTSC system.. I didnt stop playing as well (for that reason). The PD Rankings just have a PAL and NTSC list.. and a complete one.
Just saying this would be a nice idea for GE as well. Stop reacting like I'm voting for Bush, just an idea man, chill. Doesn't hurt anybody... and no-one will think of you as a less better player if this happens (if that's why you're reacting so... unflexible)
BUT!
Quote
Quote:
1. All current Goldeneye world records are possible on both PAL and NTSC. There are no exceptions.
That's just weird talk man, really. Get a PAL system and play for yourself... mostly Runway Agent, Depot etc etc. ask Wouter, he knows more about WR's than me.
Kisses,
Emile
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 19, 2005, 02:24:00 pm
"you're a tremendous good player, and always played NTSC... so you didnt witness the disadvantages yourself."
You don't know half how PAL is and because you've had the better system all the time, of course you don't notice any problems with getting any WRs.
I don't see you getting PAL, since logically, you don't need it.
But if you did, you'd find out how wrong you are.
If you'd play PAL and try for any WRs, many of them would be a lot harder to get. I can tell you with 100% confidence that if you were PAL since you started, you'd be still the same player, but with worse times. It's just ignorant to say things just because you can't face the facts for whatever reason. You have no right to debate when you can't even compare the 2 never having played both.
1) Just because currently all WRs are possible on both systems, does not mean there is no difference. It's very clear that many people could get streets 1:56s, but only NTSC can do it easily, since they only need cake ratios. This is only one example of many. Also, how can you say this is a fact? not all WRs have been done on both systems, and I'd like to see anyone getting all control WRs on PAL, for instance.
2) Police Athletic League, Athletic referring to the bigger patience needed to get more boosts just to get the same time which would be easier to get with less boosts on NTSC. More patience and consistency, thus more hand movements, thus athletic, I guess.
NTSC stands for No Thing So Crazy
Post by: Cervone on June 19, 2005, 03:38:00 pm
Quote
Quote:
Just because currently all WRs are possible on both systems, does not mean there is no difference.
I never said there was no difference.... of course there is a difference! It's just that the current records aren't yet maxed enough to allow this difference to completely prevent PAL from achieving the record. For example, Bunker 2 Agent WR is 24, done on NTSC. Can PAL get 24... yep. Can NTSC get 23? Well, I say yes, it's technically possible. Can PAL get 23... probably not. etc.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 19, 2005, 04:00:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on June 19, 2005, 04:12:00 pm
PAL IS GAY!
huahuahua xxxx cfcfcfcfcfcfcf
must be, huh?! later dudes!
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 19, 2005, 04:33:00 pm
Post by: Cervone on June 19, 2005, 05:41:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on June 19, 2005, 05:49:00 pm
Post by: 007-Emile on June 19, 2005, 06:38:00 pm
PAL is gay... it likes f*cking one in the ass, eat pancakes, walk out its porks...... and other gay stuff.