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The Big Three Plus One => General Chat => Topic started by: Ngamer on September 06, 2011, 12:03:39 am
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The 2011 NFL season is just around the corner! ("Opening day" is this Thursday night, when the 2009 Champion New Orleans Saints take on the 2010 Champion Green Bay Packers; every other team will be starting their season on Sunday/Monday.) You know what that means... time to get the picking pools up and running. BUT FIRST, hit Reply and give us your prediction for the final result of this year's Superbowl! (For example: "Jets - 34, Falcons - 27")
Good luck this season, everyone!
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Pigskin Pick'em is back! Each week you simply choose which teams will win straight up, and whoever picks the most correctly by the end of the season is declared the Champ. Join join join!
* URL: http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin/en/frontpage (http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin/en/frontpage)
* Group Name: The NFL Elite
* Password: elite
Don't forget to make your pick every week!
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Elite Survival Football is also back! Each week you have to choose 1 team that you think will win, and you can only choose each team once in the entire season! I think Neo took 25th place last year or something. It's always a fun competition and shouldn't disappoint this year!
* URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/survival (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/survival)
* League ID: 22294
* Password: mcgriddles
Don't forget to make your pick every week!
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The Elite's brand new Spread Supercontest is up and running! To play, make 5 bets against the spread each week using our official Google spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US)
(don't have access to enter your picks? make sure you're logged into your google account. still no luck? post in this topic and you'll be added!)
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Discussion From Previous Seasons
2010 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=15485 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=15485)
2009 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=14806 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=14806)
2008 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=13842 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=13842)
2007 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1338 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1338)
2006 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1592 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1592)
2005 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=11422 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=11422)
2004 - eaten
2003 - eaten
2002 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=11047 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=11047)
2001 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=10468 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=10468)
2000 - http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=9016 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=9016)
Championship picks, away!
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Ng Bets the NFL - Seasonlong Wagers
SEASON: Colts will win UNDER 9.5 games in the 2011 regular season
* risking $5 to win $5.75
SEASON: the following 6 teams will miss 2011 Playoffs
* Panthers, Bills, Bengals, Redskins, Broncos, Dolphins
* risking $5 to win $5
FANTASY SEASON: Ng's Fudge Pack will finish TOP FOUR (out of 14) in regular season total points scored
* risking $5 to win $15
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Can you link the ESPN group directly or post the invite link or something. The search on that site never works for me (and it wasn't just my old PC, apparently!)
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Superbowl pick:
Packers 31, Patriots 21 (take that to the bank!)
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Steelers 24 - Eagles 20
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Colts 27, Falcons 13
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Steelers 31 Eagles 17
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Well I'll BE, what the heck ESPN. Search not working here either. The group page is
http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin-pickem/en/group?groupID=18518&selGrp=18518&entryID=267790 (http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin-pickem/en/group?groupID=18518&selGrp=18518&entryID=267790)
But don't know if that will help with being able to join. If you can't search for the group in FF or IE, post here and I'll invite you using facebook instead.
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It worked for me. Just type in NFL elite and the possible choices just fall down in a list. You can't actually hit enter or click anything to get to a new page.
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Eagles 27 Patriots 17
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Packers 31
Chargers 21
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Eagles 27 Patriots 17
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That said, my pick is Eagles 38 - Texans 21
I keep editing back and forth between Eagles and Packers. Think the Packers have the better team overall but the Eagles seem custom engineered to defeat the Packers 1v1 if it comes down to that. What I'm really afraid if is losing to the Lions or some upstart team a la Cards in 2008.
The AFC pick is 40% not wanting to be all like "me too" (Steelers have the best AFC--AND Elite FFL-- team), 80% wishful thinking (because F the Steelers, Pats, & Jets... and picking the Ravens never seems to pan out), and 30% "hey, a case could be made for this really happening".
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Falcons 30, Steelers 10
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Eagles 21, Jets 13
:v
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I think Neo took 25th place last year or something.
*shakes head disappointingly*
Steelers 28, Eagles 17
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Lot of wacky preds up in here... time to show you how the 2011 season is really going to play out!
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The conference championship games will be
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Super Bowl Result
Green Bay Packers - 38, San Diego Chargers - 35
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The Spread Bet Supercontest is now up and running!
It's based on the famous Hilton Vegas contest of the same name, and how it works is... everyone bets on 5 teams against the spread each week. Every winning bet is worth +1, a push is valued at +1/2, and a loss nets you +0. (Any bets you don't make are also worth 0, so it's in your best interests to get in the full 5 bets per week.)
Thingy and I are putting together a website to automate this Contest, but in the meantime we're going to be tracking it on a special Google Docs sheet, which can be found HERE:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US)
Just head there, log in to your google account if you aren't already, and enter the 5 teams you want to bet on each week. I've given everyone who posted in this topic edit access so they can make their picks, but if you'd like to play along and I missed you, just post here or IM me and I'll fix that right up!
You can enter a new pick or edit one as much as you want, all matchups will stay unlocked until kickoff of that game. Oh and if you want to play but don't get access before the games start tomorrow, just post your picks here and we'll honor them!
I'm going to edit the spreadsheet link into the first post as well, so you can just look there when you're ready to make your picks from now on. (QB will put up the new lines and open the sheet for editing on Tuesday afternoons.)
The official Week 1 lines are:
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That's odd. I was sure these were the true week 1 lines.
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Finishing off my perfect week with Pats, Falcs, Eagles, and Bucs. Can't believe nobody else went with that Packer line on Thursday!
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I definitely would've, had I been invited to this game at that point!
*scowls*
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I've been mesmerized by Ngamer's helmet pictures for some time now. I am either a mad genius, or completely certifiable.
But isn't it completely UNCANNY how both conferences seem to be organized very closely to how the teams will be ordered after this season (starting with the top row, and going from the direction the helmets are facing backward in each row). It's indeed plausible that the AFC's playoff teams are Chargers, Pats, Texans, Steelers, Chiefs, and Jets. And it's EVEN MORE plausible that the NFC's six playoff teams are the Packers, Saints, Eagles, Rams, Lions, and Falcons. That ORDERINGS are even plausible, given the divisions. And just look at the remaining teams in each conference. Couldn't you see, in both cases, how this could correlate strongly with the final conference rankings???
I know, your mind is friggin' blown right now, but that's not even the craziest thing. Wait for it.... I was also noticing week 1 matchups, and check THIS out:
Top Row, NFC: Saints/Pack, then Eagles/Rams. Two week 1 matchups.
2x2 square, beginning of 2nd and 3rd rows. Criss-cross them: Lions/Bucs & Falcons/Bears. Two week 1 matchups!
2x2 square, end of 3rd and 4th rows. Up-and-down: Giants/Redskins & 49ers/Hawks. TWO WEEK 1 MATCHUPS!
---TRANSITION TO AFC--- Now imagine the NFC package positioned above and to the right of the AFC package
Vikings, lower left corner of NFC, & Chargers, upper right corner of AFC. A WEEK 1 MATCHUP.
Leading 4x2 block, pairwise Up-and-down: Steelers/Ravens, Texans/Colts, Browns/Bengals, Titans/Jags. FOUR WEEK 1 MATCHUPS!!!!
2x1 block at the end 3rd and 4th rows. Up-and-down: Raiders/Broncos. A WEEK 1 MATCHUP.
So that leaves five AFC teams and three NFC teams whose helmets are NOT adjacent to their week one opponent. AKA 75% of teams' helmets ARE ADJACENT. But why stop there? THE COWBOYS' AND THE JETS' HELMETS ARE IN THE SAME POSITION, THUS BOTH INTERCONFERENCE GAMES OF THE WEEK ARE NOW ACCOUNTED FOR.
Now the only non-adjacent pairs are NE/MIA, KC/BUF, and ARI/CAR. But this is easily explained by my first point, that the helmets are some crystal ball into the future of this NFL season. If the helmets are ordered truly as I hypothesize, there's no way the Pats and Fins could be in the same, or even adjacent rows, now is there? A case could be made that ARI/CAR and KC/BUF are two games with teams that, pairwise, could be considered in the same-tier. But I say to you, who are we to argue with the predetermined ordering of the all-knowing NFL helmet package????
WE ARE NO ONE.
tl;dr:
Ngamer's helmet pictures are a predetermination of the NFL standings, rife with week 1 matchups of adjacent helmets. If this isn't proof positive the NFL is entirely fixed, I don't know what would be!
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Alrighty, so what notable things happened this week?
- Brady and Henne's combined yardage of 923 passing yards is an a new NFL record (to answer Bosshardt's question).
- Tom Brady's pass to Wes Welker for a 99 yard touchdown was only the 12th 99-yard passing touchdown in NFL history, and also the first one in 3 years.
- Denver and Oakland just played one of the worst games of football we have ever seen, and Kyle Orton is surely the worst starting quarterback in the league.
- The Patriots, Packers, and Saints are going to be the 3 best teams this year, being 1a 1b and 1c. You clearly need a super elite quarterback to make it far in the league and teams like Indy/Jets/Bears/Ravens are probably screwed. The Jets proved me wrong last year by owning Brady but they'll never win the Superbowl in today's NFL with Sanchez.
- The Ravens are very good, and Flacco is too. Flacco isn't an elite quarterback but he's sure as hell good enough to shake the Steelers, as proven by week 1.
- Donovan McNabb now owns the record for fewest passing yards in a game where the QB played every snap.
- The entire NFC South is 0-1 and 3 of the teams played common opponents (NFC North), it was basically a complete wash.
- The Falcons are grossly overrated, as is Julio Jones and the farmland of draft picks they traded away to get him. I can't stand that organization mostly for how hyped they were last year, I never hopped aboard obviously.
- The Eagles can be a ridiculously scary team, custom built to beat the Packers in a head-to-head battle in the playoffs, but this will all be meaningless if Vick has a bad game or does not make it the entire season.
- The Colts are going to win 4 games this year, I think... Manning MVP based on that merit alone?
- The Bears defense is not dead, as I had hoped. They hold the Packers to about 11 points UNDER their average in each game they play, and because of this, I hate them a lot more than I normally do.
- The Lions are going to be very scary if they can keep Stafford healthy, their offense is clearly in rhythm, now if only they can fix that crappy secondary...
- 3 kickoff return TDs (one by the Pack snapping a 12 year streak) and many more punt returns for TDs (TED GINN JUNIOR BABY) tells me that teams now suck at tackling, get lazy on the returns because of the plethora of touchbacks (over 50 percent), or simply over-run the return guy and haven't praticed it enough yet.
I might make it a tradition to post walls of texts each week, with my opinions changing as I constantly get proven wrong. Hey it's better than a dead topic though.
Oh, I forgot to mention that Aaron Rodgers has the highest QB rating in the history of the NFL, sorry.
Oh, I also forgot to mention that LEARN TO PROPERLY TACKLE, JESUS CHRIST, YOU CAN'T BLAME THE LOCKOUT FOR YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING THE FUNDAMENTAL ART OF TACKLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING!
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Jesus would definitely be better as a quarterback.
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The Colts previous (can't count this years yet obv) five or so 1st round picks are all busts. They were going downhill with or without him.
Jim--did you consider now the KR's aren't running back for the ball to catch it and instead are running forward/staying put as well as extra running room as possibly one of the reasons for the boom/bust kickoff returns? With the lockout in place there wasn't much time to adjust and a lot of the ST'ers are kids who didn't exactly have a lot of time to be proficient at it (b/c none of them ever did obv).
[your point of shit tackling however is valid]
"You clearly need a super elite quarterback to make it far in the league "
just a few obv non super elite QB's to make the Superbowl recently Eli Manning (won), Rex Grossman, Matt Hasselbeck. Hell Jake Delhomme wasn't that long ago.
edit--Julio Jones looked ok to me. Hard for a rookie WR/QB to learn the playbook in that short of time.
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Wheat, hush. No need for you to come in here with fancy "facts" and "examples" and shatter the ESPN-hype that directs the minds of casual, unknowledgeable fans (e.g. Jimbo).
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I shouldn't take the troll bait, but I know way more than you could ever comprehend!
(typical Jimbo is gonna bounce outta here now, thx)
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Ravens looking legit this year. I would have to agree the falcons are overrated, but you can't put too much value on one game.
Hopefully, Josh Freeman has a break out year. I'm really foward to see how this guy developes. He's definitely the guy for the Bucs.
The Pats defense/secondary is scaring the crap out of me. Hopefully they improve as the season goes on.
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In honor of Jim, I'll post some week 2 thoughts.
Coaches that should be immediately fired or at least on a very serious hot seat
Steve Spagnolo, Rams. Punted fourth and 28 with 1:42 (or so) remaining and zero timeouts down 28-16. Only way you do this if you think it's more likely the Giants will umm muff the punt than committing a stupid penalty (and far far worse are done somewhere every week)? I don't understand why he's not immediately fired actually. He quit and if you quit in the NFL you don't deserve your job.
Special team coach, Giants. Didn't tell his punt returner or anyone on his fucking team "WHATEVER YOU DO DON"T TOUCH THE BALL!"
Hot Seat
Jim Harbaugh, 49ers. Yep, already should be on the hot seat for extremely questionable decisions. From a bad espn article "Leading 21-14 early in the fourth quarter, the Forty Niners hit a long field goal; the Cowboys were flagged. Jim Harbaugh had a choice of first down on the Dallas 22 with 11:16 remaining, but no three points, or a score of 24-14 and a kickoff from the 50"
edit--1st--when leading and presented with an opportunity to run more clock off + kick a FG (which from that distance is likely to go in) he kicked off from the 50 into the end zone negating the penalty (since everyone's kicking it into the end zone) instead of onside kicking it. Not often a coach makes two mistakes in one decision. That 1:30 or so he could've ran the clock out might've made Dallas not have enough time to tie the game as well, no?
Lol raiders
Hue Jackson threw a challenge flag on a touchdown--which is now a 15 yard penalty. They don't read that silly offseason rule changes letter the NFL sends out every season.
Todd haley lol Chiefs
Jack Del Rio two words Luke Mccown. Yep, start updating that resume.
Other WTF ness
Miami called a timeout on fourth and 1 from their own 17 before punting down 10 8:32 left in the game.
Here's options in order of intelligence
1) go for it (never will happen b/c of media wrath if it fails)
2) anything other than calling timeout because the 5 yards is meaningless.
Denarious Moore is a 5th round pick of the raiders who in preseason everybody thought was the best WR on the raiders and basically proved it sunday. Can't wait till he gets benched when the 3 guys come back from injury again. (then again Victor Cruz was everyone's darling last year and he still hasn't caught a NFL pass--should've been on the raiders)
Coaching will be fired list
Todd Haley (yeah pretty damn unlucky but at best they can go 4-12 looking at their schedule NFC North, AFC East and all 1st place teams so realistically only have a shot vs dolphins, vikings, colts, and maybe the broncos at home)
Jack Del Rio (Luke McCown is worse than I thought--and I thought he was terrible!)
Tony Sparano (wanted to fire him last season and he's done nothing but try to get himself fired this season)
Seriously, this guy should be fired but maybe not?
Spagnolo (as wiff knows Josh McDaniels just means you're gonna get fired)
Harbaugh
Jim Caldwell
Norv Turner (for the 1000x year)
GM's that should be fired
Whoever the guy on the Dolphins is Waiving Benny Sapp after the 99 yard TD where the was obviously no safety help and the guy behind him on the roster is a long time special teamer who really shouldn't have been trying to cover Andre Johnson. Seriously wtf? Why am I betting on a team this stupid to cover the spread? (lucky for me it was just in the-elite pool)
I'm still totally stunned on the rams decision to punt. Lucky for spagnolo--I'm not his boss b/c he wouldn't have a job today. That might be the worst coaching decision I've seen in a long time. Can't remember ever seeing a coach give up in that obvious of a situation with that little time left.
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Steve Spagnolo, Rams. Punted fourth and 28 with 1:42 (or so) remaining and zero timeouts down 28-16. Only way you do this if you think it's more likely the Giants will umm muff the punt than committing a stupid penalty (and far far worse are done somewhere every week)? I don't understand why he's not immediately fired actually. He quit and if you quit in the NFL you don't deserve your job.
Was totally stunned to see the punting squad out there.
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Spagnuolo wanted to go for it, but he couldn't get Freddie Mitchell dressed in time.
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Oh man, I'm not sure what else I can add to wheat's post that will be relevant and interesting, but I guess I'll stick to what I know:
1. The Packers defense is really not that bad, I honestly believe Dom Capers is just experimenting with a bunch of different lineups and schemes to use in the future. This week was more of an experimentation with Tramon Williams on the sidelines. Nick Collins being out forever is not the end of the world, we now have 2 young safeties back there who love to hit hard and are very fast players in general... I'm optimistic. Last year we lost Nick Barnett at Linebacker and the new guy proved to work better with AJ Hawk than Barnett ever did, so I'm hoping Charlie Peprah works awesome outside of Morgan Burnett.
2. Cam Newton is a good passer, but very overrated. He's thrown 800+ yards but also has a shit ton of turnovers. Why did Steve Smith throw the ball back in bounds? One of the oddest fumbles I've ever seen by a great player.
3. Donald Driver is now the Packers all time leading wide receiver in total yardage (huge record, because Don Hutson has owned everything for decades), pretty sweet for a 7th round pick in a team with as much history as the Packers.
4. Detroit looks scary, and everyone's claim of them making the playoffs is starting to look legit. Packers play them on Thanksgiving and I'm starting to fear that game...
5. It was good to see Philly get beat by Vick's old team. I hate both teams but Philly is overrated, sorry Youse!
6. Steve Spagnuolo's decision to punt can be justified, but any one of us can bash him for "giving up".
7. The Chiefs are the worst team in the NFL, behind the Colts. Losing Charles and Barry is far too much for a team that fluked last year anyway. Wheat's 4-12 projection is a bit generous, more like 2-14.
8. LOL VIKINGS, FUUUUUUU
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for the record, I didn't project the Chiefs to go 4-12 I projected that they only have 4 winnable games left on the schedule.
Jimbo just tried to troll me by saying there's an actual justification for that rams punt but I'm not buying it!
Bears play Lions in week 4 on MNF with a banged up O line between that and the packer game we'll be fortunate if Cutler isn't dead. (and yet it'll still feel like we should go 10-6 thanks to the entire (all 5 teams from the old AFC West consecutively) lol AFC west.
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Huh, how can you justify that decision to punt?
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Official Week 3 lines are LOCKED IN and you can come make your Supercontest picks now!
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Enter the 5 teams you pick here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US)
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Ng Bets the NFL - Week 3
Ngamer will score OVER 3 points in the W3 Supercontest
* risking $5 to win $10 (exactly 3 pts is a push)
[Teams: Packers, Lions, Eagles, Ravens, Saints]
YTD Balance: $0.00 (3 seasonlong bets pending)
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Bet ends in a PUSH! Other Week 3 results:
Im Ngamer (10:29:59 PM): yikes, Third with a 5-0 this week
Im Ngamer (10:30:39 PM): shame about me missing out on making money off QB by a half point
Im Ngamer (10:40:50 PM): QB and Third currently lead the league with 10 pts. but Youse can move to 10.5 with a Redskins win
Im Ngamer (10:43:18 PM): W3 Pick'Em Champ will be Ngamer at 12-4, with a Cowboys win
Im Ngamer (10:47:39 PM): looks like Third was booted from Survival with Eagles
Im Ngamer (10:47:53 PM): leaving only 5, who BARELY got by [all with the Chargers]
(Come, drag, Shep, Thingy, Neo)
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Official Week 4 lines are LOCKED, ready to make your Supercontest picks now!
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Ng Bets the NFL - Week 4
Philadelphia Phillies will win 2011 World Series
* risking $5 to win $8.75
YTD Balance: $0.00 (3 seasonlong bets pending)
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Official Week 5 lines are LOCKED, time to get your new set of picks in!
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Here's where the schedule gets tough- 6 teams are on byes, so there aren't as many options for your 5 bets.
Regarding W4- Third had a chance for the perfect week, but the Bucs couldn't QUITE top the Colts by enough points, leaving him at 4-1 and tied with Matt, Shep, and wheat for the best of the week.
He did do enough to pull into the lead on the overall ranks though, with 14 total points. (Just ahead of Youse and his 13.5.)
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The Falcons were taking as many cheap shots as they could at Rodgers yesterday when the O-line was at it's most vulnerable (2nd quarter), reminding me of what New Orleans did to Favre in the NFCCG. That game had disaster written all over it, but then Matty Lice came to play and promptly had an 18.8 QB rating after the first 2 drives against our defense. 16-0 will not happen, I would never think that, but the 2 toughest games of the year are out of the way with only @ Lions and @ San Diego posing very difficult challenges until the end of the season.
Here's to only the 6th 5-0 start in GB history, and about halfway to a division title and Rodgers' first home playoff game. His season-QB rating still stands at 124.0 and career stands at 100.9, best in NFL history.
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Anyway, onto other NFL thought:
- Al Davis, to me, was never the old monster who held on too long, but rather a guy who helped changed the fundamentals of the game with his rebel lifestyle and football ways. He lived a full life of over 80 years and most NFL historians will appreciate his work as a whole, instead of the last 20 years (minus 2001/2002) of incompetence. RIP Davis, most important death since Wellington Mara.
- The Colts are proving that Jim Caldwell just may be the worst coach in the NFL. He had a few spoofs last year especially against the Jets in the playoffs, but this is ridiculous... Do they even take Andrew Luck if they get the #1 pick?
- Michael Vick is an overrated quarterback and it doesn't help that the rest of his team is so poorly coached. I'm not sure if it's Reid or his assistants but someone needs to crap the whip and re-teach these guys the fundamentals of basic football (lol Ronnie Brown attempting a pass as he's being tackled on the 5 yard line, fumbled)
- (unbiased, of course) The Packers are a unanimous #1 in the NFL power rankings from anyone and Rodgers is unanimous #1 QB. In today's NFL, and for the last 10 years, it's incredibly difficult to be a sole #1 team but our coaching staff and executive team has put together a squad that will be good for years, and I feel privileged to be a resident of the city and die hard fan. I have a tough time even discussing the team because anything I say will come off as bragging, when 5-0 speaks for itself. The Packers@Lions game on Thanksgiving can not come fast enough. The Packers host the Rams next week in their throwback jerseys.
- The popular "pick 6 teams to miss the playoffs" bet was used by me at my work and 3 people took the bait for $20 each, with all 3 people picking the 49ers and the Bills. There's a solid chance I'm walking away with an extra $60 at the end of the regular season!
- Tebow clearly needs to start, if not for the good of the team, but for the good of their bank account. Give the fans what they want; because he has the talent, and the fans love him (for now).
- Note to Vikings: Run the football, win games. P easy formula with Peterson.
- Note to Cardinals: Trade up to Indy's #1 pick and draft Andrew Luck, you'll likely be much better off!
- Note to Atlanta's coaching staff, you play way too conservatively when you have a lead. I suppose it doesn't help that "Matty Ice" gets nervous and starts throwing errant passes when the pressure gets in his face.
- Part of me wants to see the Lions win this game tonight and go 5-0 as well, but my logic-based thought process clearly is cheering for Chicago for once. Time for GB to take sole possession as division leader.
- LOL JOSH FREEMAN. I kind of hate the Buccaneers and it was nice to see the 49ers almost drop a 50-burger on that fraud team.
Anyway, rant over.
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Bears already in the running for the 6 seed only because of horrendous GM and coaching decisions. :( Can get it yet though just need to get to 10-6 (doable given rest of schedule) but I wouldn't mind a total tank job so everybody gets fired. Most likely they'll end up 8-8 and do nothing AGAIN :( Only really afraid of the NFC East luckboxing a tiebreaker under the 10-6 scenario.
I'd just cut Roy Williams (didn't even know he was in the game till his one 4th Q catch), Omiayle (wouldn't have let him get on the bus THREE YEARS AGO), Meriweather right now and we'd instantly improve the team at least a little bit. Knox is still terrible and I still hate him and we probably missed the window to trade him. Hester sucked at returns but I'm ok with the end of game bad ones since we needed to try to steal a TD there but did fine aside from the drop at WR for a change. Cutler/Forte were great and we still lost which is pathetic. Can't wait for SNF's 10 false starts and giving up 200 yards to peterson next week.
You can almost count the $60 already jim, SF only has to worry about a choke and having Seattle pass them. I think the Bills at least get a WC spot (they beat the Jets every year before wouldn't stop now) anyway. I thought the Ravens would fall off and the Browns would take that spot but it's turning into the Bills taking the Jets spot instead.
Colts clearly take Luck, they would've gone 8-8 at best this season, that team was falling apart even with Manning. With the new rookie salary cap draft picks are tougher in terms of trading b/c they're worth more now. I guess someone could go crazy though. (also Russell Wilson might be a better QB which I'm surprised you didn't mention...)
and fucking Bears.
Al Davis--it's amazing every time some fucking asshole dies and everyone is nice about it. I don't see any reason to not be honest everyone knows ffs. Not only can you be a giant asshole but when you die everyone's gonna pretend your legacy was amazing and awesome and you weren't that bad when you kinda were (sure could've been a good guy behind the scenes but in front was a dick! I mean were Raider fans deep down really sad about it? Probably not.
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Alright, guess since I won survival football (is this the earliest it's ever ended?) I should post in here each week who I'm picking and why.
Here's the teams already used: ARI, NYJ, SD, GB, NO
Games which are obv non-picks this week:
STL/GB
NO/TB
NYJ/MIA
...because I've used the good side of those already
CAR/ATL
SF/DET
BUF/NYG
PHI/WAS
HOU/BAL
DAL/NE
...because the teams are either inconsistent (ATL) or they're divisional games or have a good chance of being pretty close
Games to consider:
PIT over JAX - PIT has been pretty inconsistent though.
CHI over MIN - Divisional game, Bears O-Line sucks, short week.
That leaves 2 teams to pick between:
OAK over CLE - Home game, on a nice roll after pulling the upset last week, playing a pretty bad Browns team.
OR
CIN over IND - Home game, Colts are terrible, Bengals showing some promise and a very good D against a very bad Colts O.
...and the decision is made easier by looking at the schedules. OAK plays KC, DEN, @MIN, @MIA, and @KC. Only other game I'd be comfortable with CIN is @STL in week 15, so the LOCK OF THE WEEK IS THE CINCINNATI BENGALS!
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if it was to win this week it's clearly pit, but you're already in survive all 16 weeks mode so whatever.
edit--I did say it
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Mark's been getting more into the NFL lately and this aft he decided it was time to officially pick a team. I pulled up this old list from 2007 to help with his decision... and now that it's been made, time for an update!
The Elite Chat - Who's Rooting Who
Green Bay Packers
Ngamer
Jimbo
pack
Thingy (sort of)
Indianapolis Colts
Come
Neo
New England Patriots
Shep
Lark
Chicago Bears
wheat
Alec
Cyber
Philadelphia Eagles
QB
Youse
Matt8k
Mark Jones (maybe)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Clark
BloodE
St. Louis Rams
Nate
Kansas City Chiefs
Third
Cleveland Browns
Greg Woll
Adam Matis
Baltimore Ravens
PDO
Denver Broncos
wiff
Dayle
Minnesota Vikings
Boss
drag
Clemens (sort of)
Cincinnati Bengals
Reds
San Diego Chargers
octo
Washington Redskins
Goose
SZ
Tennessee Titans
Comet
Detroit Lions
Poker Mark
Lovins
Hokey Hokey Hokey Florida Gators Hokey Hokey
DK
Post here to get yourself added to the list!
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- Nate is a Rams fan
- Tyler is a Chiefs fan
- Woll and Matis are each big Browns fans
- Eddie is a Lions fan
- Bjorn and Andrew (if they ever appear) are Seahawks fans
- Octo is a Chargers fan
- Josh Layne (PoloJAL) is a Panthers fan
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Jon, you offend me.
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London's getting 2 games a year soon. He could've picked the Jaguars and just waited about 8 years or so. Missing third's inexcusable. Surprised we don't have more Ohio football fans but I guess if I was a brown/bengal fan I'm not sure I'd ever bring it up/admit it either.
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I'm not fanatical, but:
Eagles.
http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1962.0 (http://elite.speedrunwiki.com/forum/index.php?topic=1962.0)
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You are fanatical.
Mark Jones is also an Eagles fan.
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You are fanatical.
Wait, I remember now. I am fanatical.
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Oh yeah, Week 6 lines are set and open for SuperContesting!
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Picks, picks, make those picks!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US)
So with roughly 1/3 of the regular season in the books, let's check how things are playing out so far.
* Congrats to Come for winning Elite Survival 2011! Shep, Thingy, and Nate were still alive into W5, but they were all eliminated by picking the Giants, leaving Come as our sole survivor. I believe this is the earliest anyone's ever won Survival. Come has promised to continue announcing his picks/thought process in this topic every week from now until he's eliminated.
* Third was on top of the world a week ago, but he got his face stomped in during W5 of the SuperContest (going 1-4). That has allowed Youse to reclaim the top position with 17.5 points. Come is just back at 16.5.
* Moto's destruction of Pick'Em continues- he won W5 with 10 correct picks (tying three others) to maintain his #1 position for the season. With 57 correct picks, he's in the 99.6 percentile nationwide. Woll's in second with 55, followed by Ngamer and one of his cousins at 54. Third continues to bring up the rear.
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Week 7 Survival Pick
Teams already used: ARI, NYJ, SD, GB, NO, CIN
Games which are obv non-picks:
SD/NYJ - used both
IND/NO - used NO
GB/MIN - used GB
Games to avoid:
SEA/CLE - 2 bad teams
ATL/DET - lack of confidence in DET
DEN/MIA - 2 bad teams
CHI/TB - 2 inconsistent teams, plus neutral field
HoU/TEN - Divisional game, both inconsistent
WAS/CAR - 2 inconsistent teams, QB situation for WAS
KC/OAK - Divisional game
Games to consider:
PIT/ARI - ARI is home team, PIT still hosts CLE and CIN late in season
BAL/JAX - JAX is home team, BAL still hosts IND, CLE, CIN later
STL/DAL - DAL home game, STL is horrible even with Lloyd, only other game DAL might have worth picking is W12 vs MIA
so this week's LOCK OF THE WEEK IS...
The DALLAS COWBOYS!
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it must be fun in a GM's office when the raiders call you. I mean Cin was probably fist pumping from just the one first round pick offer then realized holy fuck it's the raiders we can ask for more! First + 1st/2nd depending if the raiders win a playoff game or not. They bid against themselves again.
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I dont know where to type this since there is no general whatever topic ha. But yeah hopefully those animals don't find their way over here!
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Loooooooooooooooool @ typing it HERE in THIS topic! Epic Matis post!
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Week 7 is coming right up, but can you deal with this?
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If you can, get those picks in! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE&hl=en_US)
Special Announcement:
A few minutes after last week's Packers/Rams game ended, Jim went out to the sheet and changed his incorrect pick (Rams) to the correct one (Packers), then attempted to swap out another pick that looked like it was going to be a loser as well. This cheating was of course caught (for one thing, people are looking at the sheet all day on Sundays; for two things every single edit is tracked so there's no way to claim "those were my picks all along"). This begs plenty of questions, such as
* How could someone this untrustworthy still complain about proof calls and having his times backrolled?
* How could someone this dedicated to cheating still get upset when called out on it during KotHs?
* How could someone who routinely displays this level of immaturity still be amazed that he's yet to be entrusted with a Rankings or Board Moderator position?
* How could someone who takes advantage of the "it's just for fun between friends, I'm sure no one would be stupid enough to cheat" honor system that our entire community is built around still be shocked when stuff like this happens? http://thengamer.com/updates/elite/2011/match.php?match=44 (http://thengamer.com/updates/elite/2011/match.php?match=44)
In any case, Jim's been penalized with losses on both W6 games he tried to cheat and has also lost his ability to edit the spreadsheet for the remainder of the season. He'll be required to say his picks in Chat in full view of the public from here out, so as not to test his complete lack of willpower any further.
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Almost edited your post for the massive retardation but I figured I'd lose all mod powers altogether, so...
- Jon be mad at anyone attempting to hijack his operation when loopholes are attempted to be exploited
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- They're running a Balderdash about the movie "Black Shampoo"... but Google is right in my other tab!
- They're running a KotH to see who's the fastest typist... but Notepad is right next to Chat!
- They're running a religion trivia challenge... but my Bible's right here in the bookshelf!
- They're running a Summer Contest on this website... but I still remember some passwords from an Elite meetup last week!
- They're running a NFL picking Contest on this spreadsheet... but looks like I'm still able to make edits!
These aren't "loopholes." They're tests of character. Hopefully you will pass one of them in 2012.
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Almost edited your post for the massive retardation but I figured I'd lose all mod powers altogether, so...
- Jon be mad at anyone attempting to hijack his operation when loopholes are attempted to be exploited
So... if it's possible to cheat, you must, if for no other reason than to punish people for not having foolproof systems against cheaters. In a closed community of 20 friends who run the honor system on everything they do.
All I get from this post is that you intentionally ruin things just for the sake of ruining them?
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Ng Bets the NFL - Week 8
Ngamer will earn more October ESPN BTS (aka Streak for the Cash) wins than QB
* risking $5 to win $5.01
2011 bankroll: +$0.75
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Colts are pretty good.
On a more serious note, the Chiefs are pretty good.
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QUITE the slate of games here in Week 8.
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(please only select from the NFL games, unless you're Infil!)
To the sheet you go!
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Going with SF this week in survival. Balt is the only other team I'd consider but they've got a few more pickable games and SF doesnt have too many left to go for, so hope it pays off!
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WEEK 9, DUDES
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Make them picks!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE)
Down to only 4 bye teams instead of 6, so you've got more options for your Five. I'm expecting scores to improve accordingly!
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Basically picking between Houston and Kansas City this week in survival, and pretty sure KC is the right pick since I don't have to outlast anyone and I'm only trying for the perfect season. Probably the shakiest pick so far but I hope it works!
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The Green Bay Packers are going undefeated. holla
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Basically picking between Houston and Kansas City this week in survival, and pretty sure KC is the right pick since I don't have to outlast anyone and I'm only trying for the perfect season. Probably the shakiest pick so far but I hope it works!
http://www.sadtrombone.com/ (http://www.sadtrombone.com/)
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Did the Rams really just blow that +3.5 cover IN OVERTIME?!?!?!?
FML
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Jon,
I'm a Chargers AND Niners fan, but both cases admittedly just from living in/near the cities and bandwagoning their successful seasons :)
Also,
Playing fantasy with you guys is tough this season - I'm used to a 10 team PPR league that isn't so TD heavy, which is really easy to play the waiver wire and do well with deep benches. 14 team heavily weighted toward TDs has been a nice contrast!
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Did the Rams really just blow that +3.5 cover IN OVERTIME?!?!?!?
FML
On a 99 yd punt return for a TD. I can only imagine he still got yelled at for this. Can't believe I'd ever utter the phrase walk off 99 yard punt return TD.
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Colts are pretty good.
On a more serious note, the Chiefs are pretty good.
*raises eyebrow*
EDIT - Careful out there, Eliters! There's a Thursday night game this week (Raiders @ Chargers), and these TNF games are going to be happening every week from here out. Not a big deal for the SuperContest (unless you really want to bet that specific line), but be sure to make your ESPN picks so you're not locked out of that point!
SuperContest: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE
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Colts are pretty good.
On a more serious note, the Chiefs are pretty good.
*raises eyebrow*
*raises eyebrow even higher*
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1. Aaron Rodgers is better than your quarterback, even on his off-day. (3 TD 1 INT 299 yards 112 QB rating).
2. Packers will go 15-1 or better, best in franchise history (yay for being record-obsessed and seeing things happen before my eyes!)
3. I'm sad at Cutler being out for the rest of the season :(
4. LOL at Rex Ryan taking a fan's bait and telling him to "shut the fuck up", netting him a $75K fine.
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There's a good chance that they lose to the Giants at the Meadow Lands. Also, I doubt they'll beat the Lions twice. I'd say 14-2 at the very least. However, I'm going to say they go 15-1.
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WARNING
There is not one, not two, but THREE Thursday games this week (for Thanksgiving), so be sure to make your ESPN picks tonight and not miss out!
You might also want to get some of those Superpicks bets in early, as those three lines are quite TASTY.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE
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HOT NEW BET needs to be officially recorded here!
COME as u r337 (6:48:51 PM): Come puts up $1 to Jimbo's 2 oz. of Gold
COME as u r337 (6:49:12 PM): that the Arizona Cardinals will make the playoffs and defeat the Green Bay Packers in the 2nd round.
Also, congrats to Ngamer on his excellent Superbet picks two weeks in a row!
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I'll bet $2 to Jimbo's gold that the Bears will make the playoffs and beat the Packers (in any round).
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Holy smokes, there's a Thursday night game this week, AND a Saturday game! Be sure to look over these lines and see if you'd like to make one of those your Superpick ahead of time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE
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I'm out of gold to wager, wheat! I'll put up a car of equal value, however.
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You can't lose both bets (DUCY?) unless we're involving any bears win over the packers. Then I'll move it up to $10.
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Colts are pretty good.
On a more serious note, the Chiefs are pretty good.
*raises eyebrow*
*raises eyebrow even higher*
*lowers eyebrows 5 millimeters*
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Was at Arrowhead on this historic day, had a blast even though the crowd was half Packers fans. Hali was epic!
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That game was a head scratcher in general. So many dropped passes and such. Having Jennings out didn't help their case either. Gotta give it to the Kansas City though. They never gave up.
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Colts won, Tebow lost. Entire day made no fucking sense.
Oh wait Caleb Hanie is still awful. Well one game still made sense anyway.
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I was on suicide watch all day after that game, I knew the formula for beating the Packers would be Cover 1 and very few pass rushers getting home to the quarterback, and GUESS WHAT HAPPENED?!
Congrats to Tyler landing those tickets, he now joins me in the exclusive club of witnessing "the most epic game of all time"! Actually, Ngamer probably belongs in there too, but that's irrel!
Anyway, suicide averted, I forgot that a 49ers loss tonight (very possible) still secures home field advantage, then we get 4 straight home games (plus bye week) at Lambeau, phew.
EDIT: Doesn't help that our defense didn't win a single one-on-one battle, and Capers' schemes got owned by a reasonably intelligent quarterback who knew what was happening. I was 50% convinced we were going to win that game after the final frantic TD drive because Crosby was 4/4 in his last few onside-kick attempts, but that kick had ZERO bounce to it and we stood no chance. People are honestly questioning McCarthy not kicking it away but people fail to realize that a FG try there still only puts them up by 8 and we can tie it on the final drive. Whatever, so many streaks came to an end yesterday :(
BTW: Drew Brees has 4780 yards with 2 games to go, and is easily going to shatter Dan Marino's 5084 yards he put up in 1984.
EDIT 2: Jermichael Finley will NOT return as a Packer next year, I've never seen someone go from ULTRA CLUTCH to COMPLETE BUTTER HANDS in one season, yet Rodgers STILL forced it to him in every situation!
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Am I jinxed now that I'm featured in this topic's subtitle?
Actually, I should be fine as long as I avoid KYLE ORTON.
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:) at jimbo's finley hate
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I'm sick of Finley too. His attitude doesn't fit the Packers team. I wouldn't mind if he's gone next year at all. I second Jimbo's assessment that Finley's hands have gone from gold to butter like none I have ever seen. Overall, I don't mind the packers loss at all. I'd rather have anything than an 18-0 season go to 18-1. I've also been saying that the team defense needs a reality check for a long time.
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49ers literally cutting the power to try to distract the Steelers! Cheaters!
Not sure who I'd rather see get the #2 seed, as I'd RATHER play SF than NO, but I'm thinking NO can go into Candlestick and beat SF anyway, so who cares. At that point, it's all about who I'd rather see get a week of rest vs beat themselves up an extra week while our starters heal up.
Fuuu playoffs and the fear of getting bounced EARLY AS THE 1 SEED. HEARTBREAK FORTHCOMING.
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obv it blew because Polamalu plugged in his hair dryer.
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WARNING! WARNING!
Christmas has turned this into a super strange NFL weekend; there's only ONE game on Sunday! Everything else is happening TONIGHT (1 game), Monday Night (1 game), or Saturday (everything else). So be sure to get those picks in early!
SUPAPICKS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE)
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IN OTHER NEWS
Beaten? By a g-g-g-girl? I'm afraid it's the truth!
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With only two weeks remaining in the season, the entire Elite trails Ngamer's sister in straight picks. SOMEONE had better step up to the plate and make sure this eternal embarrassment doesn't happen!
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Go ngamer's sister!
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- Packers get the NFC's #1 seed! (overrated?)
- Rodgers gets Packers single-season passing record!
- Rodgers is now back over Manning's mark of 121.x for season-high QB rating!
- Rodgers finally has thrown for 5 TDs in one game!
Congratulations to Derek Clark for winning the ELITE FANTASY CHAMPIONSHIP! (He needed insane games from Rodgers and Nelson to make up 40 points, and he got 7 TDs from them!)
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Crazy comeback. I was pretty certain I was defeated, down 73-33 with Rodgers and Jordy the only players left for either of us. Rodgers threw 2 touchdowns to Jordy in the second half - his last throw before leaving the game was the TD pass that put me ahead. Crazy close.
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rodgers + megatron + a bunch of bums/stragglers= lock fantasy title obv. lol Jimbo for not having rodgers
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Worst team in the playoffs is easily the Denver Broncos.
Best team not in the playoffs has to be between the Chargers and Eagles.
That 16-13 OTL SD suffered to Tebow-Time decides the division.
Also, lol @ my fantasy teams best week being Week 17 (Flynn + Nelson + Gronk + Turner). Some ridic games this week.
Playoffs should be fun - road teams should be favored as a group over the home teams, I'd say.
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Best team not in the playoffs has to be between the Chargers and Eagles.
Not
even
close
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In the 90+ years of the Packers, with legendary quarterbacks like Bart Starr, Brett Favre, and now Aaron Rodgers.... the single best game ever played now belongs to...
Matt "god mode" Flynn!: 6 TDs (No Packers QB has ever thrown for 6), 480 yards (single-game record as well), 136.x rating (nearly tops Rodgers' season high rating of 122.5 which is also a new NFL record) and now an unrestricted free agent. I hope he goes to Seattle, because I'm IN with the Weatherton family and they love the Seahawks and now we can have a friendly rivalry! (Hmmm, Packers backup going to Seattle to lead them to the promised land? That sounds quite familiar!)
White boys ballin' on everyone's chins? Jordy Nelson finished with 15 TDs, Rob Gronkowski gets the TE yardage record along with the TD record. Love it!
Top 2 seeds in the NFL finished with the 2 worst statistical defenses. I happen to think our defense is actually very solid only because we get so many turnovers. New England needs to win on firepower ALONE.
I'm SUPER afraid of the Giants and have been calling for their heads for weeks now. I was hoping Dallas could close the deal a few weeks ago and prayed tonight for them to clutch it out, but not to be! They're the one team that can stomp GB in our own stadium and I want nothing to do with them. I'm a Falcons fan next week and I kind of hope Detroit beats New Orleans...
Time to talk about the Lions. Anyone else agree with me that @ GB, @ NO, @ GB will be the toughest 3-game-stretch in NFL history? They HAD to win this game today so they went all-in... Now it's time to man up and play real football.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THESE PLAYOFFS, GONNA MILK THIS OFF WEEK AND JUST WATCH THE FIREWORKS!
Random FYI: Congrats to the PACKERS and to the SAINTS for being the only 2 teams to go undefeated at home, way to keep the home fans proud! (this was a huge deal for me, as well)
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8-8 buuuuuuddy
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Yeah, 8-8!
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Texans
Saints
Steelers
Falcons
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(6) Cincinnati > (3) Houston
(5) Pittsburgh > (4) Denver
(3) New Orleans > (6) Detroit
(4) New York Giants > (5) Atlanta
And just for fun...
(1) New England > (6) Cincinnati
(2) Baltimore > (5) Pittsburgh
(1) New England > (2) Baltimore
(3) New Orleans > (2) San Francisco
(1) Green Bay > (4) New York Giants
(3) New Orleans > (1) Green Bay
(3) New Orleans > (1) New England
NFC Playoffs have a chance to be epic. Not sure I feel the same about the AFC.
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Octo's post implies that Drew Brees can accurately throw a football outside of a dome in brutal cold temperatures (we have a night time NFC Championship slot this year, remember that!)
Anyway, give me...
Cincinatti, DENVER, New Orleans, New York Giants
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Don't forget, New Orleans was a close Week 1 game in Green Bay away from having the 1 seed. Week 20 in cold weather is different, but I think the Saints have been a bit too overshadowed by the Packers this season.
I'll be rooting for the 49ers though :) I can see a Niners - Saints game in SF going one of two ways - Niners play how they want to and squeeze out a win, or they get blown the F out.
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New topic is up for playoffs picks and discussion- just leaving this open a little longer to wrap things up. Because...
It's all over! Another exciting NFL regular season is in the books; let's see who came out on top in the Elite.
NFL Spread SuperBet Final Results
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Full Results available at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2lt476FmdENPaFpIdmpjNHN2a1FISTEwNXZfcUE)
Congrats to Youse, our first ever Superbet Champion! Interestingly, Youse had such a good season that, heading into W17, he would have been #2 in the world in the real-life Supercontest where thousands of dollars are on the line and all the best gamblers in Vegas are involved. Unfortunately he would have blown a great chance at the win (went 1-4 this week, while the #1 Vegas guy went 4-1), but still would have finished in 3rd or 4th place and made a ton of money. So hopefully he moves to Vegas and enters next year!
UNcongrats to the stupid Seahawks, who blew a perfect opportunity to beat the Cardinals in regulation, instead coming up 1/2 point short of the line and costing Ngamer 2nd place. Instead that goes to Come, at 48 pts. Booooo!
Pigskin Pick'Em Final Results
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The Elite's worst fears have been realized! Beaten by a girl, oh nooooooooooo... Congrats to Ngamer's Sister, who won the league convincingly and finished in the top 99 percentile worldwide in the process. Moto finished 3 wins back to settle for Silver, while Bronze was split between Woll and Ng's Cousin. Ngamer ended up a disappointing 5th with 169 wins.
Survival was of course won by Come, as mentioned a couple months ago. He was knocked out by picking the Chiefs in W9, which is I think the worst showing we've ever had for an Elite winner, but still looks good considering everyone else was dead by Week 5.
And as we talked about last week, Clark made an epic comeback to win the Elite Fantasy Super Bowl over QB. wiff edged out DK there to snag the Bronze.
Another fun season, hope everyone enjoyed it!
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Now let's wrap up this season of Ngamer Betting Action!
Ngamer Bets 2011 - Regular Season
SEASON: Colts will win UNDER 9.5 games in the 2011 regular season
* risking $5 to win $5.75
RESULT: Colts go 2-14, WIN
Safe to say this was the greatest bet of all time!
FANTASY SEASON: Ng's Fudge Pack will finish TOP FOUR (out of 14) in regular season total points scored
* risking $5 to win $15
RESULT: Despite outscoring Youse by a good 16 points, the Superteam came up a little short on this one. LOSS
SEASON: the following 6 teams will miss 2011 Playoffs
* Panthers, Bills, Bengals, Redskins, Broncos, Dolphins
* risking $5 to win $5
RESULT: Bah, BAH I say! Newton kept the Panthers relevant but they were never a threat, Bills looked like the team to ruin this before an incredible collapse, Dolphins played like a playoff team in the 2nd half but were luckily killed themselves in the first half, and Redskins certainly SHOULD have been in contention considering that awful NFC East but somehow messed that up.
As for the Bengals and Broncos, neither played well down the stretch and both lost in the final weeks which SHOULD have doomed them and given me my second miracle finish in a row on this bet. Too bad the Raiders and Jets are a complete disgrace to the sports landscape. LOSS
Week 3: OVER 3 points for Supercontest picks (3 exactly is a push)
* risking $5 to win $10
RESULT: Went 3-2 to make it a PUSH
Week 4: Philadelphia Phillies will win 2011 World Series
* risking $5 to win $8.75
RESULT: Would make this bet again in a heartbeat! Stupid Cardinals... LOSS.
Week 8: Ngamer will earn more October ESPN BTS wins than QB
* risking $5 to win $5.01
RESULT: He had to take his laptop and walk across the parking lot at his hotel three times a night to steal wifi from the building next door in order to get enough picks in... but it paid off, with QB edging Ngamer by 1 win for the month. LOSS
Final Result: $14.25 lost
Easily my worst season as a gambler... but I'm feeling a hot streak coming for these playoffs!
EDIT - Just for the record, the 7 other teams I was considering for the "miss the playoffs" pick were, in the order I was going to use them,
Cardinals, Browns, Seahawks, Raiders, Vikings, Titans, Jaguars
...all of which missed by a mile! (Except the Raiders, which as I've said should have made it if they weren't complete failures at everything.)
Also, here were the 6 seasonlong OVER/UNDERS I wanted to bet
COLTS UNDER 9.5
Bears UNDER 8.5
Cowboys UNDER 9
Packers OVER 11.5
Jets UNDER 10
Rams OVER 7.5
Rams would have been a total disaster, but would have gone 5-1 overall, pretty slick!
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Good news, Elite. I have decided to enter the 2012 SuperContest! If you were impressed by my performance this season, I am accepting help with the stake up to 50%. Just paypal me the loot, I'll know what it's for.
Man I crushed it this year. Don't see myself topping 50 ever again: I actually had an awful year overall vs. the spread. Pretty hilarious actually. In my private season-long spread pool, I ended up with a measly 114 correct. 114/256 is 44.5%, whereas my SC picks were right at a clip of 64.7%!!!! (I ignored the half points for ties in the SC in order to compare to the 114 number... so 55/85 correct) That disparity is astounding.
my w17 got Matt Flynn'd. I was fairly sure the Lions would be alright, y'know, actually playing for something significant while A-Rod groomed his beard on the sidelines. Not only should the Lions have handled business, but the Falcons also would have had nothing to play for and rested EVERYBODY in their late game... making their cover vs the Bucs a LOT less likely.
Unfortunately, I was driving back home from festivities afar during the games on NYD (what the hell is a smartphone??) and couldn't switch my Bucs pick to Falcons once I realized the Lions were blowing it via radio... I certainly would have taken this course of action otherwise.
All this means is I should have lost to the real 2nd place by 1, instead of 2. Meh, no big deal. BUT, if Lions aren't completely terrible at life, I maybe tie for 2nd in the big picture. I now hope they lose to the Saints by 50 or so, Colts style.
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Does Clark get all the money?
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I now hope they lose to the Saints by 50 or so, Colts style.
Good 'nuff.