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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: OHMSS on June 07, 2014, 06:12:08 pm
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To me, those very much look like emulations (sharp 60 fps cursor movement, sharp captions and watch menu within levels, sharp and unusual fast hundredths in the Streets-timer):
Streets 00A 155 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Yb1bfdvYE
B1 17 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tat8f_SeTec
Caverns 144 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nx9oilWXjY
Don't know about these:
Streets SA 155 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqTiRoai4rU
Depot 49 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPSETEQWYg
For comparison, that's how his supposedly legit 30 fps endscreens look like (endscreen cursor has a shadow):
Runway 22 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW9pivb8No
Depot 40 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8yEwRTA10o
Depot 39 fail - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEng3kmr98
Silo 114 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F01aEHzXbWY
What do you think?
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thanks to these new allegations, surely the-elite will fully ban him now
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stfu irrel
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Imo nah. I used to talk on the phone w him when he was active and he'd say stuff like "my tape is rewinding" etc.
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Maybe this is why Monteith never really defended himself once he was caught. Interesting in that regard I guess, albeit still only speculations.
Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but what's the actual point of this topic? He is already fully banned from GE and will remain so. So why waste time even studying these runs? If the videos you linked are fake or not is completely irrelevant
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If you are implying its a waste of time to study possible fake runs then i would like to open the voting for a new proof mod.
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Yeah Monteith being a big scale cheater does explain why he never defended himself.
It definitely does look like these are emulated runs, based on the endscreens. They're not as apparent as his Depot 25, but I think that was on a different TV? Interesting stuff.
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interesting observations, dunno though, I don't remember how bad the vid was for what he was banned for
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Koch with a useless and oblivious post as always. Weed really does mess you up.
wtf
it is so weird to me that anyone would be so assumptious.
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Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but what's the actual point of this topic? He is already fully banned from GE and will remain so. So why waste time even studying these runs? If the videos you linked are fake or not is completely irrelevant
Imo it's a huge difference whether someone (a once celebrated kid who got close to top 20 with warp speed with an untied and many WRs) got banned for a single fake vid of a multitied WR or faked most of his stuff and fooled everyone over a long time frame. Especially cause currently people want to weaken the proof policy with arguments like "I don't think any eliter wants to cheat" or "we'd notice it anyway".
Yeah the topic has no immediate brisance, but discussing this stuff does no harm.
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Kinda feel like it should be more obvious if a run is played on emulator, but i'm not entirely sure. The graphics plugins aren't perfect at all, but it's a bit hard to tell here (maybe if someone did an actual emulated run, played it back on a TV and webcammed it we could compare the results?). Frigate might be the only level with "obvious" graphical errors with the water stuff not rendering as intended.
The only other major difference i can think of right now is firing speed. It's a bit random as well i think, but emulators tend to have REALLY fast firing speeds, especially with weapons like KF7 on Streets. The ZMG on Caverns should be insanely fast as well. So maybe you could compare the bullets per seconds of either of these weapons/level in the vids above with known legit runs?
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it's also difficult to tell if its running at over 30fps since that's youtube's limit (99% sure)
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the sped up timer could imply that he overclocked the N64 and taped that?
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That post from Goose to Koch is pretty fucking rude...
it doesn't really surprise me, but it makes me a bit disappointed to read..
Koch did add to the discussion, drawing from his own rivalry/friendship with Monteith.
bad post of the year
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I was in a bad mood that night. I apologize.
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I still see you. He's not really sorry. He just felt he had to apologize when it is one of his friends that gets disapointed in him. Subjective as fuck, has shown it clear as crystal since i joined, has no balls to stand alone in the truth and look at things objectively, with an impartial eye. His kind of mentality is open as a book and is really fragile. I know people get angry when the truth is exposed, i don't care. Someone needs to do it. This fucked up realm will get a much heavier dose of truth very soon anyway when mankind will be forced to evolve to avoid extinction.
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"Biggest loser in the entire universe who shall not be named further," (that's what I'm calling him now)
What you fail to realize, because you have no friends (never have, nor ever will,) is that sometimes, even if you don't mean it, you need to apologize to a friend anyways. It's not as much a sincere apology about your action as it is saying "I am sorry I upset you. You are my friend and I never mean to do that."
This is how normal friends act and what normal friends do. Something "the truth" clearly has no knowledge or experience about.
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Marc when is the last time you saw your family, legit question
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I was in a bad mood that night. I apologize.
thanks, no hard feelings.
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Goose is a narcissistic retard.
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You're almost as bad as Marc
Glad to see you've revealed yourself as being behind the Nolan Baucom incident with that new avatar change
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Marc will never apologising for annoying 99% of this community.
At least Ryan can be reasoned with.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL
And the beat goes on
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nice to see monteith coming clear about this, thanks to gregor
lol the facility 55, there's like 3-4 places where you should have potentially got hit
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I did have some times that were not completely legit, however all my times besides the fake depot 25 were done on the n64.
I faked the 49 because I was so fed up with the level and wanted to just move on after spending like 35-40 hours to get depot 40. The cheat made it so much more consistent so I used it and it vid looked pretty legit. The facil 00 55 was the first vid I faked, I did it for the same reason, to increase consistency, since the guards are so gay on 00. Once I faked this one I didn't really feel bad about faking the others, since I knew it didn't let me get times that were out of my skill level, it just made me them less frustrating and more consistent.
Yep this is EXACTLY what I posted in the Everdrive topic. People will not care about cheating when they believe the cheat only gets the job done quicker and not when it's a skill matter.
Let's bring the final blow to a game that is barely breathing thanks to people like henning and monteith and very likely more people who haven't been discovered yet. LETS ALLOW EVERDRIVE :D
also it totally pisses me off how he doesnt apologize or feels sorry in any way. It proves that he has no clue how actions like this damage the integrity of the whole community.
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I want to say that I respect Monteith for this reveal, but after thinking about it even a minute, I can't.
He knew he had faked videos. He was banned. Rather than help us out (he admits he likes the community) he just lets these fake videos LIE there. Not coming forward the moment you were banned was extremely disrespectful, only to be outdone by faking videos in the first place.
It is truly scary to think how many fake videos are likely on the rankings.
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I forgive monteith. I think the elite community is partially responsible for what he did. We tried to take away his only chance at an untied because he used superpad and this probably fueled him to want to cheat. Not saying what he did isnt awful, but i dont think he is the only one to blame. Not to mention all the other cheaters who made it look so easy.
Ryan is right, its scary to think how many fakes are on the ranks. But what can you do? I wont let a few bad seeds bring me down.
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Thanks for taking the time to describe your fake vids Monteith. It's appreciated.
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What I don't understand though is why someone would even bother to cheat, many see speedrunning already as so irrel and people say from time to time they don't give a shit about it. I mean if you are gonna cheat why not just go do something more worthwhile instead, it's not like cheating at videogames is gonna get you chicks or so.
Maybe the cheaters are the ones who really care most about speedrunning though, but yea I guess I've totally got it the wrong way and the cheaters infact see it as something irrel and for some reason they still see it as worthwile if they don't need to spend hours on it and get to see their initials on the ranks. :P
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Marc will never apologising for annoying 99% of this community.
Like i have said earlier, i stand by what i say, i am responsible for what i say. I will never take responsibilty in how much people understand and how they take it. It's not my problem, it's yours and there is an easy solution to it. Make a poll on if i should be banned from the forums. If most say yes, i get banned. That is fair and i'd be fine with that. I will continue to post until.
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anybody else got too many 00 vids where they don't get hit in them? let's start there
people cheat and steal for the same reason, to get ahead while doing less work. In any competitive activity you're going to have people doing this
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In Monteith's Facility 00A 0:55 video, it's painfully obvious that he should have gotten hit multiple times as he was waiting at the decoder door. I can't believe no one picked up on this.
No one watches GE videos anymore.
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I understand that WR attempts on a level like Depot 00A can mess with your brain, but LOL at even cheating for Jungle 53 and B2 25. Your ethics must be close to absolute zero if you don't even play for such easy times the honest way.
No one watches GE videos anymore.
I guess so, look at that endscreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVd_H0kADNY
:o
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Are there any videos you saw that you thought by any chance something like "that video looks like what I've done?" or any vids that raised an eyebrow of yours? I figure you'd be more likely to notice than anyone else here at least at the moment.
btw you've given by far the best response that any cheater any site I've been on ever getting caught about it. The previous best was lol you losers took this seriously and then left forever.