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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: AZ on December 09, 2014, 11:17:06 am

Title: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: AZ on December 09, 2014, 11:17:06 am
Times page: http://rankings.the-elite.net/~Askaruk/goldeneye

Proof status: 0/60

Times page-consistency: ~4%


I think this player needs to be proofcalled/frozen. Why? I find it hard to believe a player having times such as Silo A 1:07 and SA 1:18; the latter being one of the most intricate of levels, while not even having 23 on Runway. Also, Edgar has 4:06 on Control, another complicated level, but 0:20 on Bunker 1. Naturally, if only a few videos of his PRs worth points were available, I wouldn't make this topic at all. But there aren't any videos whatsoever. It all looks extremely suspicious if you ask me.

About Askaruk

I never even played Goldeneye 007 until April 2014.

Has anyone ever interacted with Edgar? Does he exist?

If this turns out that I'm only being paranoid, and that Edgar is indeed legit (hopefully he is), then I'm sorry. But it's my duty to enlighten fishy issues such as this.

Please prove me wrong
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: DYM on December 09, 2014, 11:43:20 am
Silo A 1:07 and SA 1:18; the latter being one of the most intricate of levels, while not even having 23 on Runway.
Marc had 0:58 Train while having 2:40s on Statue. Just saying this is an irrelevant point.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: flicker on December 09, 2014, 11:56:30 am
Marc had 0:58 Train while having 2:40s on Statue. Just saying this is an irrelevant point.

i think it's a fair point given the context of the player and his proof status. the comparison you're making is a little off balance.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: Illu on December 09, 2014, 12:03:24 pm
I think that point is kinda irrelevant, only thing that would give it revelance would be the fact that this guy has no proof whatsoever but this point is still irrelevant in a sense.

Anyways I think not having any proof at all is pretty bad he should definitely be proof called whenever he posts times next time if not sooner.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: OHMSS on December 09, 2014, 12:06:06 pm
I agree with Flicker. Staying quasi-N/A on Statue is very understandable while noone just skips Runway 23. IIRC Inkosi's infamous Statue 2:43 PR was up only because he posted it as part of a partially insane Agent run (Dam 53 start) and then Axel set it as his PR.

Once again a good effort Axel, keep being suspicious :)
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: RWG on December 09, 2014, 12:27:42 pm
I believe I've seen Askaruk in my stream back in the day.  Not entirely sure though.  More than half of these new players "discovered GE through Goose" anyways so that's not saying much.

I don't know enough to form an opinion.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: AZ on December 09, 2014, 03:05:07 pm
Marc had 0:58 Train while having 2:40s on Statue. Just saying this is an irrelevant point.

i think it's a fair point given the context of the player and his proof status. the comparison you're making is a little off balance.

Yeah Rayan, the difference here is that Marc HAD proof of Train 58 (and he does exist). Edgar does not have proof of anything.

keep being suspicious :)

OK
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: RWG on December 09, 2014, 03:41:11 pm
Actually Marc's proof situation is very similar.  His videos are the same as that new guy Oscar Pleninger.  I think if we remove any of ET or OP, we also need to remove all of Marc Rutzou's times.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: AZ on December 09, 2014, 04:27:56 pm
kappa

Speaking of Oscar, I sent him an e-mail earlier today (since he isn't on these boards) notifying him that people complain about his videos and asking him to increase his video quality or chances are he will be backrolled.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: flukey lukey on December 09, 2014, 04:34:07 pm
how do you even get 243 on statue?
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: RWG on December 09, 2014, 04:45:45 pm
no trev shot, bad val strafe and one of the worst FRs

very much a "first completion, not skilled or knowledge in the statue department" time

edit - holy fok I broke 17k posts
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: T+ on December 09, 2014, 05:42:28 pm
Making bad vids in 2014 is a joke and not a funny one
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: SimThreat on December 09, 2014, 08:38:43 pm
I would proof call his silo times.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: bcks on December 09, 2014, 11:10:36 pm
no trev shot, bad val strafe and one of the worst FRs

very much a "first completion, not skilled or knowledge in the statue department" time

edit - holy fok I broke 17k posts

I remember struggling to get the cheat time of 3:15 on sa. It was a  time when I had no idea about cruise control, val strafing, or strafing at all. Thus no <c or c> buttons used. sub 3:15 was tricky without that knowledge.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: wheatrich on December 10, 2014, 04:04:31 am
if memory serves, guy had bizarre goals for this game so his timesheet won't ever look normal.  can't speak to anything else tho
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: speedruntrainer on December 10, 2014, 07:47:45 am
Silo A 1:07 and SA 1:18; the latter being one of the most intricate of levels, while not even having 23 on Runway.
Marc had 0:58 Train while having 2:40s on Statue. Just saying this is an irrelevant point.

Who cares about Statue anyways :kappa:. It's irrel :nesquik:
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: AZ on December 10, 2014, 10:47:20 am
I remember struggling to get the cheat time of 3:15 on sa. It was a  time when I had no idea about cruise control, val strafing, or strafing at all. Thus no <c or c> buttons used. sub 3:15 was tricky without that knowledge.

yeah, Fast Animation was the last cheat I achieved. A bit underrated in terms of difficulty if you haven't seen any videos and use 1.1, no CC, no val strafing, minimal strafing in general, no Trev shot, have no idea about FR-spots, have to open gate by yourself etc

if memory serves, guy had bizarre goals for this game so his timesheet won't ever look normal.  can't speak to anything else tho

interesting
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: Stoxenbawns on December 10, 2014, 11:26:31 am
I have had the rare pleasure of chatting with this Askaruk character in a stream chat (likely Lockwood's). The reason his times are so odd is because he set a goal of getting within 10 seconds of the world record on every level. This would mean a b1 20 would be satisfactory where as some times, such as silo sa, are a little trickier. I believe him to be legitimate.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: Icy on December 10, 2014, 03:45:15 pm
I have had the rare pleasure of chatting with this Askaruk character in a stream chat (likely Lockwood's). The reason his times are so odd is because he set a goal of getting within 10 seconds of the world record on every level. This would mean a b1 20 would be satisfactory where as some times, such as silo sa, are a little trickier. I believe him to be legitimate.

Seconded, I remember that too, and everyone was busting his chops about it being a weird goal, lol.

That said, some proof for his times would be good.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: SimThreat on December 10, 2014, 08:27:09 pm
Well that's a very entertaining story, Eric, but the real detectives have to worry about that little thing called evidence.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: Lark on December 10, 2014, 08:37:04 pm
^ Ace Ventura: Pet Detective Reference 

This is a good inquiry, Axel. Hopefully he answers your email and gets a couple of proof videos online.
Title: Re: Edgar Talayko's legitimacy
Post by: SgtRaven on December 11, 2014, 12:15:25 pm
Well that's a very entertaining story, Eric, but the real detectives have to worry about that little thing called evidence.

Karl, as an Australian clearly you haven't been around the American Justice system much. What is this thing called "evidence" you are referring to?

 :kappa: