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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: Swiss on December 29, 2014, 07:07:48 am
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1:11:59 TOTAL TIME HERE WE COME, LET'S GO BABY. :nesquik: :kappa:
In seriousness, I'm not sure what caused this or if it will ever be useful in speedrunning train, but it is pretty cool nonetheless. Some quick thoughts: I was surprised that I didn't die right away upon venturing away from the room, and more surprised that I could go as far away from the room as I wanted. I found no way of knowing where I was after getting far enough away, and couldn't find any landmarks/invisible barriers (although there may have been some). I tried to reach where the end trigger for the level would be, but couldn't find it, so I'm not sure if it was even there or not.
Hopefully this can be replicated, properly researched, and maybe even be useful some day. Regardless, it is a first for Goldeneye, and pretty cool to see.
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Looks insane. Didn't even look like you warped it, just walked right through.
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16 years in the making!
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This Day in Elite History.
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I've been watching the vid for the last half hour and Phil is trying to get out of the train atm :nesquik:
Any ideas for the name of this OoB trick? I think it should be called The Swiss Clip. epic stuff man.
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did you try to open the doors from the OOB area? I think the strat is 1) get out of bounds, 2) open the doors to load each subsequent room, 3) run to the end.
did you go far enough that you should have reached the end of the train? I know it's hard to tell for you too.
It's plausible that there is a loading zone to end the level which gets "unloaded" if you don't leave the train with the conventional route, but damn this is neat. I really hope this gets solved. Likely free 90+ pointers for me on Train for a while :nesquik:
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Loading rooms is not as easy as just opening a door unfortunately (at least in the tests i did where i hacked my way out of the train, might be different in reality). You can briefly see into the room yes, but if you walk there, it turns to black again. So while the room is loaded for viewing while you look through a portal (i.e. doorway) to it, the game doesn't actually think Bond's position is inside it if you walk there.
However, in my tests, i did manage to actually change which room Bond was registered to be in. I did it kinda by accident though and i'm not sure what triggered it.
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Youd still need to complete the brakes though at the very least on Agent, which would probably significant limit the potential of this strat. Still amazing to see. It looked like the key is to get wedged between a guard and a wall in that particular car, maybe all those green cars? idk. He got stuck between a kneeling guard and the wall though.
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My thoughts is that this could maybe happen anywhere where there is a kneeling guard and angled corner such that you can get pushed through a wall. Although that is just speculation. It might just be unique to Train, since this hasn't been found before.
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Hmm nvm after watching a few times it looks like a clip where you just run through the wall. Pretty strange.
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One way to find your way to the end would been to face the room you could see and back away from it, keep it in sight as long as possible and make sure you are backing up straight.
Anyways the breaks need to be completed still somehow yea so question is would it be fast enough to do the breaks and then run back and glitch out and run to the end? Or is there another spot maybe where we could perform the glitch, maybe closer to the end?
Amazing nonetheless, first OOB for GE pretty much without cheats and whatever.
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Extra 30 sec clip I made to demonstrate the odd behavior of the laser and the guards:
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Notice where it's aiming at. Clearly the game still thinks Bond's position is in that corner.
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way better than Trent's Train strat
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Turns out that if you can find roughly the spot where the end of the train is, the game will indeed fade out properly while OoB. However, Objective C will fail since you skipped leaving the train :p
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so you have to find the C-spot? I would look in front of the G-spot. :nesquik:
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The C-spot is probably right near the entrance.
:nesquik:
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It IS the entrance. :nesquik:
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It IS the entrance. :nesquik:
Bro you should really learn your train anatomy. The C- spot is above the entrance. You will know when you reach it because the train will start wriggling and making noises.
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That's the other C-spot :)
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http://www.twitch.tv/illudude/c/5899947 (http://www.twitch.tv/illudude/c/5899947)
This is really not oob but I managed to get inside the room where Trev and Xenia are on train somehow, dunno if it would be possible to do some oob from there :P
Has this ever happened before without cheats?
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http://www.twitch.tv/illudude/c/5899947 (http://www.twitch.tv/illudude/c/5899947)
This is really not oob but I managed to get inside the room where Trev and Xenia are on train somehow, dunno if it would be possible to do some oob from there :P
Has this ever happened before without cheats?
I remember I did it too without cheats as a kid back in the 90's. I was blown away and thought I discovered something amazing :nesquik:
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I've had this happened 2-3 times, but not with that kind of super slow roller door. Cool stuff.
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Yeah that's indeed old. I remember Wouter had a video back in the day where he did this.
On a different note, i was actually looking into some stuff on Train just before checking the forums and it ties in pretty nicely with Illu's vid:
Notice how Trev dissapears? As soon as the roller door closes, Trev and Xenia are actually moved to a different part of the level. Where you ask? The very first car! (both of them will be in the exact spot Bond spawns in). You can't see them there though, since a flag has been set making them invisible/invincible.
You can still detect their presence though. Remember this video?
The "What an unpleasant surprise" is displayed either when Bond enters Nat's room, or when Trev has a clear line-of-sight to Bond. By triggering the roller door without doing either of those things, we can make this message pop up in the very first car.
Another fun fact: It's possible to have Natalya survive the explosions when the timer runs down, by creating a ton of explosions elsewhere. Old trick of course but i had never tried it for this particular purpose before. She'll end up working at the computer forever.