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Nonsense Time => FFA => Topic started by: RWG on December 05, 2015, 04:13:38 am
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This question arose in one of the Whatsapp groups used by many eliters earlier this evening. Essentially the matter lies in the question "when a friend is preoccupied and making an uncharacteristic mistake, do you remind or help them to prevent said mistake, or do you let them make a mistake and then forgive them later?" Should you take it upon yourself to be responsible to help out a friend, or should friends never be responsible for each others' matters?
EXAMPLE A: Your friend is preoccupied with a breakup. You can tell he is distracted heavily by his girl problems and not taking care of his usual priorities. You have a school assignment worth 25% next week. You know he hasn't started it and you can tell he's probably forgotten all about it. Do you remind your friend about the assignment, OR do you let him mull in his distractions, unlikely to complete it, putting him at risk of failing the class, but remain prepared to forgive him for his errors and continue your friendship?
EXAMPLE B: Your friend is having issues with his family, whether it be a death, illness, etc. Tomorrow at work, there is a function or training session which requires you to bring a specific form, equipment, etc. You can tell your friend is extremely preoccupied and might not even have been present when you were told to bring this item. He is extremely unlikely to remember to bring this item and will likely face repercussions, possibly including getting fired from this job, if he forgets his equipment or form. Do you send him a quick little text and say "hey buddy, remember to bring this form!" OR do you do nothing because he should be completely responsible for himself and giving helpful little reminders to each other isn't what friends are for?
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"Hey buddy, how about not making excuses for yourself because your didn't post a simple link to an online video to a video game time you got?"
"Hey buddy, how about not blaming the proof moderators for your own mistakes?"
"Hey buddy, how about not being a drama queen and acting like a child for once?"
"Hey buddy, how about you get a Streets 00A 154 and post a vid like you normally would, instantly, right after achieving a WR? You got S2 47 and didn't post a vid for like 60 days, so..."
"Hey buddy, how about not being a ginormous doucher and acting like it's the end of all friendships and the world because you simply forgot to post a link to a YouTube video on an online videogames ranking system?"
Currently loling
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My guess is the general guideline is if it just screws him no, if it impacts you as well yes.
sidenote--why the hell a dude failing a class would even impact your friendship?
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This is stupid. Takes 2 minutes to upload a video. just upload it right after you get the time.
How does uploading a video compare to a close friend having issues?
To answer you question I would tell the friend how it is. I would say hey get your act together and deal with it and get your priorities straight. When my friends do dumb things I will call them out on it. That is why my friends trust me is because we have an open and honest relationship. But none of this has anything to do with uploading a video.
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This post shows exactly why you can't keep a girl in your life, Goose.
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I'm not sure I follow Spec. Are you saying that reminding girls they might be forgetting something or making an error isn't something they like, and is unattractive enough to be a reason to leave after a few months?
Here's another example to exercise your mind and morality...
EXAMPLE C: You are on a road trip through the nullarbor plains in Australia with several mates, many of whom are not from Australia. In the middle of your adventure, you stay in a campground, and as you are packing up to leave the next morning, you notice your friend seems all ready to leave, waiting in the caravan, but he has left his passport on the picnic table. Do you bring it to him or tell him that he's left this important document, OR do you do nothing "because he should be responsible for himself?"
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Propane
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It's not the specific situations themselves. You're so entitled and expecting a bunch of shit from people - moreover, on very minor problems. How about pulling up the big-boy pants, letting go of your self-centred views and admitting that you didn't put the video for 60 days, didn't follow its proofcall, and that nobody, not even trouble or dsx or any active player from the whatsapp group HAS to warn you?
Think about this: suppose you're under some real life stress, whatever it is, and your friends should be good friends and warn you of a distraction mistake, in case they're aware of the situation. But what about your FRIENDS? Don't your FRIENDS also have the right to be on real life stress? Aren't they also allowed to get caught up on the grind and forget about monitoring your mess-ups? (and possibly other friends' mess ups too, if that is something that applies universally).
IMMEDIATELY seeing that you lost your PASSPORT on a picnic table (or whatever examples you're posting) is not at all comparable to backrolling a time due to a 60-day long distraction (which can be reverted/fixed in two seconds, the way the rakings are nowadays, and has no major complications). Don't bullshit us into your fallacy routines, we're not stupid.
Friends calling each other out when they mess up isn't an obligation, it's a plus.
On to the parallel, I bet that the same thing happens with girls - you go into the relationship expecting a bunch of specific behaviors and actions from them, they get bored of you for being an over-entitled egotistical douche and get out.
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What is exciting to girls then? Being a "normal" dude who "doesn't expect anything" and is just like every single other guy out there? It honestly sounds like the biggest fallacy here is human relationships and intimacy. Everyone believes they want someone "special," a "soulmate," someone "just for them." In reality it sounds like everyone is just willing to settle for the first average person they encounter who isn't a total twat.
Not to mention Alec and I talk EVERY day in Whatsapp. Would ONE fucking message have been too much? When you talk to people EVERY DAY you tend to bring up these matters. For once in 79 WRs I don't post the video immediately. I don't have the right to make small errors every now and then and have good friends who have my back? It's honestly upsetting. If the roles were reversed I would have sent ONE SMALL REMINDER MESSAGE 100% of the time.
Anyway, here's another example to test the quality of your friendship...
EXAMPLE D: You are at the bar with a group of people, including friends and a female interest. You are very distracted because you've been talking to this girl for a while, trying to get with her, your own ex girlfriend has been messaging you against your wishes, you have tons of school work due, your bills are due, your mother isn't well and your sister is stressing you out because she's being extremely unhelpful with the family situation. You are both a FRIEND to people, and under REAL LIFE STRESS! That's your right! Just like Spec said. Now, one of your friends is at the bar and has had too much to drink. He drove his brand new Mercedes Benz he wageslaved hard for and parked it outside the club. He is about to drive home, drunk. You're his friend but omg you just have "so much personal stress going on in your own life! Your girl and your ex and your school and your job and your money and your mother and your family and it's your GODDAMN RIGHT to be stressed! Fuck it!"
Do you put your own personal stress aside and call a taxi for your friend or otherwise prevent him from driving home drunk, OR do you let the stress get to you, use it as a convenient excuse, and NOT do anything to prevent him from driving home drunk because "ah fuck it he should be responsible for himself and I'm stressed anyways!"
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C3H8
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(https://i.imgur.com/nBm3CIA.jpg)
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that I'm at an all time low low low, low low low, low low, low low low low, low low low, low low
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Hmm, good question, and it depends.
Does this friend routinely blame others for his failures? If so, maybe it's a good thing to let him realize there are consequences for not taking responsibility or owning a mistake.
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Wtf "being an average chode" has to do with "not being a huge moron"??? LOL... Moreover, what does the "soulmate" culture have to do with it as well? Don't confuse a person whose personality is being an "asshole" (let's call it like that for the sake of understanding) around girls with an over-entitled spoiled brat.
The fact that you're building up more irrelevant situations within this problem is further evidence of what I had said. How has this "strong, dominant" style been working out for you lately?
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Can you just explain how or why girls "get bored" of a dude "being an asshole" and "expecting things" from them? What don't they get bored with?
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In reality it sounds like everyone is just willing to settle for the first average person they encounter who isn't a total twat.
:nesquik:
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Hey just remember these few pointers on safety with propane.
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Jesus christ are you even serious right now? Try this: start going out with a girl regularly and heavily call her out every single time she messes up something, as minor as it is (doesn't matter if you're the most optimal fantastic alpha lover male sensation by the side, as long as you make sure to point fingers on her little mishaps as much as you can!!!). Get laid 100% guaranteed.
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I don't do that.
Therefore you calling this a reason why girls don't stay with me for more than a month or two is not accurate.
Please elaborate further (I'm trying to understand.)
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Josh and Mirror make some excellent points there. (https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/66/1.0)
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What is exciting to girls then? Being a "normal" dude who "doesn't expect anything" and is just like every single other guy out there?
A solid girl I know put it the following way: "I just want a normal guy with basic manners and decent shoes. But apparently that's asking too much."
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I don't do that.
Given that this statement contradicts the whole situation, I'm just gonna chill, huff some propane and eat chinese food that makes my poop liquid :nesquik:
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That is not the intended purpose of propane! Propane is nontoxic. It is clean burning fuel; however, when abused as an inhalant it poses a mild asphyxiation risk through oxygen deprivation. Commercial products contain hydrocarbons beyond propane, which may increase risk. Commonly stored under pressure at room temperature, propane and its mixtures expand and cool when released and may cause mild frostbite. I tell you what.
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I don't do that.
Given that this statement contradicts the whole situation, I'm just gonna chill, huff some propane and eat chinese food that makes my poop liquid :nesquik:
You actually think when I go out with women I call them out on every mistake they make? Lmao who the fuck are you.
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Hi etc
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A buddy of mine from college told me that back when he was a hardcore partyboy, he would be in the subway wearing a big jacket with a can of buthane in the inside pocket. Just needed to tilt his head down to huff some. Crazy :v
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Exhibit 43796 of Goose's "People who don't get it, don't get that they didn't get it."
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This thread is still going, waow.