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Title: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on May 05, 2016, 10:45:28 am
Obviously I mean by a human on an N64. I think this is an interesting question. It would be cool if you made a post to justify your choice. I'll post my opinion later. But Luke and I have plenty of 0:43 dupes,  including low-mid decimal ones and I don't think either of us find this WR particularly difficult. I wouldn't rule out a 43 bT and I hope we'll see that eventually. Still, to eek out extra tenths for 0:42 might be VERY, VERY difficult unless there's a new timesaver somewhere.

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Post by: sɐm on May 05, 2016, 10:47:06 am
voted yes because I think very small time saves and good warps and stuff could achieve a 42.9 or.8
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Post by: Rützou on May 05, 2016, 10:51:36 am
Ya
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Post by: flukey lukey on May 05, 2016, 10:54:26 am
I wish it was a little more doable..
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Post by: Rützou on May 05, 2016, 10:56:05 am
I wish it was a little more doable..
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on May 05, 2016, 12:27:10 pm
Shit, I just realised I made a huge mistake while making the poll. I meant to say do you think 0:42 will be achieved by a human. :-X
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Post by: Wodahs-Reklaw on May 05, 2016, 12:31:57 pm
2.x does save significant time, but you really need an insane start to make it able to catch the open door, I wouldn't rule out 42 as being possible, its just the human max for sure.
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Post by: Rützou on May 05, 2016, 12:38:10 pm
If thats the case Ace, then i have no idea. Might happen, might not.

As a side note, 2.x doesnt really count in my eyes :nesquik:
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Post by: AZ on May 05, 2016, 02:09:23 pm
Yes, it will happen eventually.
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Post by: SimThreat on May 05, 2016, 08:31:29 pm
Voted no because facility is a level.
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Post by: flukey lukey on May 05, 2016, 11:15:04 pm
I'm not as optimistic as Axel, it may never happen. But if a strategy tweak was able to give you back 0.3 I think it will certainly happen.

If 2.x gives 0.3 with amazing play then someone might be crazy enough to get it, but probably not.
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Post by: Icy on May 06, 2016, 02:34:49 am
4 Mine boosts + Mine/Nade for the tanks? :v
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Post by: Xerxes on May 06, 2016, 02:51:28 am
4 Mine boosts + Mine/Nade for the tanks? :v

could you use 2.x to lure a scientist then super fast get a nade from him?
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: Wodahs-Reklaw on May 06, 2016, 02:32:32 pm
the only 2.x lure you can do is with the patrolling guard at the start and you have to watch too much cutscene where you can't get open door anymore.

The patrolling guard will enter the bathroom at the start and barely be opening the 2nd entrance door by the time you get there (if you watch the whole cutscene).
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Post by: SgtRaven on May 09, 2016, 03:42:21 pm
What is TAS max right now?
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Post by: sɐm on May 20, 2016, 07:28:45 pm
Mate
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Post by: DYM on January 03, 2018, 10:32:20 am
Excellent news. Karl's new timesaver (as per tradition I will call this the Karl right strafe trick) has just confirmed that 0:42 is possible. Better update your Sylvester Tip's before it's too late.
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Post by: Anubis on January 05, 2018, 01:44:38 pm
Excellent news. Karl's new timesaver (as per tradition I will call this the Karl right strafe trick) has just confirmed that 0:42 is possible. Better update your Sylvester Tip's before it's too late.

good news m8  :tux:
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on December 27, 2018, 05:24:12 am
I've *officially* declared Facility Agent 0:42 to be impossible.

Thanks to all those who made my Facility streams fun to watch.
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Post by: sweetener on December 27, 2018, 08:05:00 am
take care mate
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Post by: Blue Khakis on December 27, 2018, 12:55:20 pm
I've *officially* declared Facility Agent 0:42 to be impossible.

Thanks to all those who made my Facility streams fun to watch.
Is this memeing or legit? What makes it impossible?
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Post by: Irie on December 27, 2018, 06:27:03 pm
It's impossible because Ace won't use 2.x, and no one else currently can achieve 42 even with 2.x
It's only impossible due to self limitations
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on January 24, 2019, 01:00:58 am
On 23rd January, 2019, the first ever completed (with cinema) 43 bT was achieved. This is a truly remarkable moment in Facility Agent history, and shows that AT LEAST 43.2 is CONFIRMED possible. Unfortunately, due to technical issues (hard-disk running out of space), there is no video. HOWEVER, there is a video of a run that has a start which Ace approximates as being 0.1 quicker than the 43 bT:


Is 0:42 POSSIBLE? It's hard to say since ~0.2s is still a LOT (0.2s on Facility Agent is analogous to 5s on Aztec 00A..), but I am going to do some further analysis with this Ace run.
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: deletedprofile.u on January 24, 2019, 07:13:55 am
INSANEEEEEEE run. Fastest start I've seen in my life.

Also WHY do you continue to talk in the 3rd person? NotLikeThis
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Post by: MattCook on January 27, 2019, 06:56:45 am
Really nice run!
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Post by: LoverOfAll on January 29, 2019, 06:48:34 pm
If anyone is going to get :42 its Ace,  and if he gets it... well it might just be his crown jewel.
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on January 31, 2019, 02:22:52 am
I'm not so sure.. people said the same about Ace getting Frigate 0:22 until Karl sniped it in early 2019. I'm willing to bet someone like Gus snipes 0:42 with 2.x before Ace gets it.
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: LoverOfAll on January 31, 2019, 04:56:43 pm
Believe in yourself.... like i believe in you.
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: LoverOfAll on January 31, 2019, 05:20:24 pm
On 23rd January, 2019, the first ever completed (with cinema) 43 bT was achieved. This is a truly remarkable moment in Facility Agent history, and shows that AT LEAST 43.2 is CONFIRMED possible. Unfortunately, due to technical issues (hard-disk running out of space), there is no video. HOWEVER, there is a video of a run that has a start which Ace approximates as being 0.1 quicker than the 43 bT:


Is 0:42 POSSIBLE? It's hard to say since ~0.2s is still a LOT (0.2s on Facility Agent is analogous to 5s on Aztec 00A..), but I am going to do some further analysis with this Ace run.

Omg that was the fastest beginning ive ever seen. Good Lord. 
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: mw on January 31, 2019, 05:30:35 pm
I'm not so sure.. people said the same about Ace getting Frigate 0:22 until Karl sniped it in early 2019. I'm willing to bet someone like Gus snipes 0:42 with 2.x before Ace gets it.

Insane pred tbh
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: DYM on July 14, 2019, 06:07:27 am
Wow, time to bump this thread and reflect upon the insane journey. Approximately 3 years in total, with several timesavers discovered along the way, some of which weren't really required (due to inconsistency). I wish I could see the 10 naysayers, but the poll was made before voters could be seen. :nesquik:
Title: Re: *** Do you think Facility Agent 0:42 is possible? ***
Post by: destrukt on July 14, 2019, 10:08:04 am
Obviously I mean by a human on an N64.
Since you are a obviously a speedrunning robot, the naysayers are still right.