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Fix'd
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Post by: flukey lukey on December 20, 2008, 12:57:00 am
structure: cheesy intro / V / C / V / C / Bridge / C (fade)
this isn't an attack on you ryan, just a response to adams post about why we hate this stuff, especially when its thrown at us like mtv and radio usually does.
i'm actually really interested in what you get out of this 'song' haha
Post by: RWG on December 20, 2008, 01:15:00 am
Post by: Matis on December 20, 2008, 03:07:00 am
ryan you want to date a girl similar? she is acting and its totally fake. all here stuff is probably pre-written and she doesnt write it so im sure the only reason she is singing it is a paycheck. good luck finding that (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Ftongue.gif&hash=7cfc888ebd66cf455a55fd5e124ee8267da91148)
Post by: RWG on December 20, 2008, 03:21:00 am
Post by: Scrambler Fanny on December 20, 2008, 05:24:00 am
fair answer Goose, but in all honesty, life isn't necessarily gonna be like that. life is work and enjoying the fruit of your labors and what you've built for yourself. dreamers and daydreamers rarely get anything done.
*looks around to see if anyone's looking* the bible has scripture on this as well if you're interested (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Ftongue.gif&hash=7cfc888ebd66cf455a55fd5e124ee8267da91148) but seriously though (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fsmile.gif&hash=1adea417e08e9042f9ce1a5426616bf29f2ca20e)
... here we go...
Post by: RWG on December 20, 2008, 05:45:00 am
Post by: Scrambler Fanny on December 20, 2008, 06:08:00 am
oh, Goosey-Goo, your music preferences will always make it lighthearted around here. (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Ftongue.gif&hash=7cfc888ebd66cf455a55fd5e124ee8267da91148)
Post by: RWG on December 20, 2008, 06:33:00 am
Post by: alexaxxem on December 20, 2008, 07:13:00 am
Quote from: homeonice
its so sugary its sickening, and completely uninspired and devoid of anything interesting, totally forgettable, recyclable. shes hot, so it sells. she sounds like a robot, and i guess thats hot at the moment.dude i totally agree! this is why i have country music! country music/pop does nothing but intro, v, c, v, c, bridge, c fade...
structure: cheesy intro / V / C / V / C / Bridge / C (fade)
this isn't an attack on you ryan, just a response to adams post about why we hate this stuff, especially when its thrown at us like mtv and radio usually does.
i'm actually really interested in what you get out of this 'song' haha
Death Metal does not follow this at all. 95% of all metal bands are unsuccesful cause everyone thinks all they do is "scream" which is total bullshit. most of those guys come from prestige music colleges. for instance, drummer for Arsis, graduated from berkely and as soon as they signed with nuclearblast he left to go be a surgeon. great musical talent in those bands and its over looked... such as anterior, great guitar solo's some of the best i have ever heard, but they will never be anything because they dont play repeated chords
also in this video from 1:43-1:46 she looks like the chick from billy madison... the school teacher.
Post by: RWG on December 20, 2008, 07:19:00 am
If you want to listen to a unique pop song, go listen to Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around... Comes Around. Definitely one of the few popular songs that actually has it's own style and musical thought.
About 50% of modern pop songs have actually the exact same chord progression. Amin, Fmaj, Cmaj, Gmaj or some direct translation of that. Another popular one is Amin, Cmaj, Gmaj, Dmaj or some translation. Though in all fairness, they are very nice to listen to progressions but I can understand if you feel listening to 100 songs that could all be mashed up together no problem is a bit dry.
I also remember that My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade is one of the most well written songs which has entered mainstream popular music in the past few years, though MCR could be borderline metal? Regardless, they're definitely not your generic pop band. The song has a very unique form and progresses incredibly well.
I do realize that pointing out two exceptions to "all pop songs are the same" doesn't do much but hey (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Ftongue.gif&hash=7cfc888ebd66cf455a55fd5e124ee8267da91148)
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Post by: alexaxxem on December 23, 2008, 06:48:00 am
see this is whats wrong, you assume the whole genre is about fire breathing dragons and people being tortured and spilling blood all over their faces. thats what it might look like but no. studies show that metal music is one of the least genres that are about drug/alcohol abuse and sex. they usually write about feelings they have toward something. for instance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cac2-dTkayY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cac2-dTkayY)
listen to that and im sure you think they are talking about killing and what not but no... they the band Nile whose many themes for their songs are egyptian life... wow! can you believe it! part of the song follows by
Sebek, Sochet, Suchos.
Dread Lord of the Marsh.
He Who Crawleth Amongst the Sacred Waters.
And Devoureth the Flesh of That Which is Sacrificed unto Him.
sebek was the principal crocodile god in ancient egypt. in primitive, pre-dynastic times, during seasons when the canals dried op, the crocodile wandered the fields at will, killing and eating whatever or whoever crossed its path. the nile crocodile is one of the very few animals on our planet that actively hunts and preys upon humans with specific (as opposed to incidental) intent. the egyptians associated him with death and evil but would help those who enter the after world. people would bring sacrifices such as meat and other foods to the priest of sebeks temple to help bring a closer relationship towards the crocodiles. sebek, sochet, suchos are common names of sebek.... making the lyrics for this song about egyptian mythology
Amon Amarth (got their name from mount doom in lord of the rings) is a viking themed death metal band from sweden. they base their music off of norse mythology and the viking age. one of their cds is titles "with oden on our side". one of the band members said "Well, it kind of has several meanings to it. Oden is of course the highest god in Scandinavian mythology, and he's the god of warfare, wisdom, poetry and artistry. The reason we chose the title is that it suited the lyrical concepts of the album and signified the feeling we had during the writing and recording of the album. We literally felt as if we had the Gods on our side."
dimmu borgir (means dark fortress or dark cities in icelandic and got their name from a volcanic formation in iceland) their lyrics are about how christianity was brought upon their ancestors by force, not by choice and their views of it all... the list goes on
their are mutiple genres in death metal, symphonic, melodic, grindcore, deathcore, technical, brutal death, black, ... um grind/death core is more of your brutal death metals as well, usually just tons of blast beats and growls... black metal is for bands that write about their religous views... for instance their is christian rock... and for bands that use atheism or satanic usually fall under the black metal... symphonic and melodic are the more pleasing bands out of the genre, they use neoclassical themes in their music such as hungarian dance and many others... archeon, cadacross, children of bodom, mors principium est, nightwish ... these bands are associated with keyboardist. if you like piano music then these genres usually have piano solos so they are the one for you... a large amount of death metal music is actually slow...
Cradle of filth, sings a song which is a love poem... this song is very good. a girl sings half of the song while the other guy does as well... in a sense romeo and juliett style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXmwCbnIhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXmwCbnIhc)
now for as skill... some of the musicans in the metal genre are ranked in the fastest players. now you cant say whats the best solo or who is better since thats anyones opinion, but for as speed and technicality you can measure that. some of these guys have graduated from musical schools where they go to further their talent and are almost all classically trained. cradle of filths guitariest went to guitar institute in iondon, some have graduated from oxford, berklee, and julliard.
Post by: RWG on December 23, 2008, 06:59:00 am
b) It's Berkley, not Berklee
though I did read your whole rant. Not that it changed anything. I'm listening to Madonna right now and it's awesome (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6)
though tbh, you're still describing an "image" in your post. All Metal acts live off their image. Regardless of it being Satanic, pure, God-like, religious, atheist, whatever. They have an image. Try putting an image on an ambient artist (which imo is the best quality genre of modern music being made today, movie scores and video game scores are also very good tho, but I digress...) You can't. They make music to make good music. A lot of metal guys make music to fit the metal image of badass tough whatever and you guys eat it up.
Post by: Scrambler Fanny on December 23, 2008, 08:04:00 am
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 23, 2008, 08:24:00 am
Some metal music is really good, but a lot is incomprehensible garbage. OMG, let's forget totally about harmony and see h0w quickly i can do some shitty blastbeats looooooooool
Post by: alexaxxem on December 23, 2008, 06:49:00 pm
Post by: alexaxxem on December 23, 2008, 07:07:00 pm
Post by: Soft-Hedwig on December 23, 2008, 07:40:00 pm
Lol @ how you think drummers are unworthy because they can't play double bass at 240 bpm.....with that in mind it's not surprising that you're misunderstanding my comment about blast beats. Sure, they're technically difficult. I never said they weren't. I just think that in most situations they're totally devoid of any musical worth
And practising jazz in order to build up endurance for metal? Are you shitting me? Most jazz drummers are as, if not more, technically gifted than metal drummers. No jazz drummer can play metal to a decent level. Conversely, no metal drummer can play jazz properly. The two styles are too far apart for someone to be consistent in both.
Post by: Scrambler Fanny on December 24, 2008, 12:23:00 am