Also forgot about Chicago 0:15 / 0:26 / 0:27 on 1.1 no cc lol
2.x is actually not that difficult if you've never held an N64 controller before. Imho it's no less intuitive than 1.2 or 1.1.
Why there was never a 1.1 rankings is truly beyond my comprehension
Also never given a valid reason why it was so difficult to have secondary or third fourth rankings for different control styles
Who the f*** wants to learn 2.x right out of the gate first time playing the game?
Lmao 2.x was not discovered in 2003 unless you are claiming you were the one that discovered it so early
Well, the cinema glitch was known probably since the 90's, so levels like Depot was always known to be faster with 2.x. It just didn't become allowed/accepted until pre-building speed discovery in 2010.
Why there was never a 1.1 rankings is truly beyond my comprehension - Somewhat comical and one of the top 3 reasons I stopped speed running - Also never given a valid reason why it was so difficult to have secondary or third fourth rankings for different control styles - It really can't be that difficult to separate one from another which if you wanted to "sneak" a CC WR time into 1.1 no one would really give s sh*t due to the fact you have 2.x times - Actually whole heartily believe this would also bring more people into the game over the countless years missed already however thats just my honest opinion - Who the f*** wants to learn 2.x right out of the gate first time playing the game? - Thats just me though and my thoughts for over 20 years now
(I'm imagining in your example, there would be 60 IL categories for 1.1, for 1.2, for 2.x, for NTSC, for PAL, for JP, so in total you'd have something like 600 or 2400 categories)
(I'm imagining in your example, there would be 60 IL categories for 1.1, for 1.2, for 2.x, for NTSC, for PAL, for JP, so in total you'd have something like 600 or 2400 categories)
That could be a video too. A running tally of imagining that every time the “create a new category” controversy emerged, what if a new category was made every time? Control style and system gets you to 1,440 categories (60 x 8 x 3), but I’m sure there are other ways to split it.
I would also kind of like to know what the 2.1 PAL record is for each stage.
Oh yeah I forgot that you have to unlock 1.2 in order to use it
Casual players play 1.1 with no CC. If a casual enthusiast asks, “How fast can you play this game?” and they find out they’re looking at times for two controllers taped together, with rubber bands on the joysticks and using cut scene glitches, they’re going to say, “Never mind, that’s not the game I played.” Even 1.2 will seem like an unfair advantage over the way they originally went for Facility 00 2:05 back in the day.
A 1.1-noCC wouldn’t necessarily be for beginners to set records in. But it would show beginners and casual players what’s achievable in the world that they’ve lived in so far.
Oh yeah I forgot that you have to unlock 1.2 in order to use it
How do you unlock 2.x style it doesn't work for me no matter what I do.
I almost think you guys want to have like a Casual/Beginning Players rankings within the-elite.
But you guys are using the control style argument for the wrong purpose - as if 1.1 players were part of a casual players category, and 1.2/2.x players were part of hardcore players category.
Yeah, Sterling; even if we did implement a 1.1 rankings your times would still be multiple seconds behind the likes of Ryan W., Alex, Wouter, Joris - and even my own 1.1 times. I really don't understand your obsession either. I do think that it would be cool to have a 1.1 rankings though, but suggesting a "1.1 rankings for beginners" is a bit absurd.
Brose im also glad you're just one of a few annoyed having to "find/buy a NSTC - J cart" and modify your N64 for the cartridge to fit properly and learn 2.x etc etc
Very complicated process for a beginner imho
Just to clarify what I want, I want to NOT have a separate 1.1 record board. I said I would "switch sides and play devil’s advocate for a moment."
To go back to my original analogy, I don't think glitchless OOT runners are un-hardcore. Rather, they provide an example of what it looks like to have a hardcore player play in the style of a casual player. (Goose perhaps being the most recent example in The Elite.)
Mario kart also separates PAL from NSTC I'm pretty sure too within their rankings which GE doesn't
How about just plug in the game and use the controller and the styles and move on
Theres nothing else to say or combat me with because whomever is allowed to express what they wish NOW in the present however many of you weren't there 20 years ago