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The Big Three Plus One => GoldenEye 007 => Topic started by: DYM on September 11, 2020, 04:00:06 am
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Can't have it just one way. :nesquik:
What, in your opinion, is the WORST GE/PD level (including difficulty) for speedrunning, and why?
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GE: Surface 1 Agent. Boring, degenerate level: strafe for 1 minute straight, miss the locks, and do it again and again
PD: Attack ship all difficulties. Complete lotto level, convoluted map and objectives, and for PA you might as well be dead already.
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G(ay)5
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For GoldenEye every single time i play any% and i get to control i just want to quit out and skip to caverns. I know many are fond of the stage, but the start is worse than solitary confinement especially on SA/00. The protect is boring and dying just feels like you wasted your time.
For Perfect Dark i honestly like every stage and at worst, my least favourite stage is a 7/10, which means there's still enjoyment factors. It's super hard to choose but i guess i'll go with Villa. Another stage i loved playing at first but SA is a serious pain to play, agent is just grinding for a clip with no guard trolls or accidentally bumping the couch. PA is alright although you all know how i feel about dying, granted it doesn't happen too much
Sidenote:
From a design point of view Surface 2 is just reskinned surface 1, so it's the worst level
All the PD level designs are good although rescue can be very confusing to navigate as everything looks the same, so i'll go with that
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S2 by far in GoldenEye. I think I'd put Agent as most fun difficulty, so 58th/60th in fun overall :nesquik:. SA/00 tied for 60th place at absolute worst. I know a lot of people would put 00 a lot further ahead than SA but to me it's both complete trash, and no I'm not just salty that I'm playing them right now; I've said this for years. SA/00 do both have the feeling though when you get a good run of going from the most dull experience ever, to a heart pounding insane finish. But you rarely get wins on s2 so usually it's just a completely boring stage.
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Do I even have to say it?
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Cradle slot machine
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cradle and ruins, ez
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For me it's Train 00. I don't have too much of a problem with train on the other difficulties, though I'm far from good at the level. However having gone back to it occasionally for the time cut I find myself begging for death within 15 minutes at the most. It puts one in a constant state of hitstun and drains health constantly when you're trying to complete finicky objectives and get through doors and obstacles under heavy lag. I find Aztec 00 less frustrating by far since there's body armor and you get consistent spawns every run. Plus it ruins a lot of RTA runs, even if you have godlike skill on it.
Runner up would be all of Statue for me. I find other levels to be similarly boring (Dam) but Statue has a heavy luck factor and is a long run to optimize. Any mistakes completely wreck you and it can take a long time to get decent runs going depending on your PB. It's nothing more than a strafe fest through a glorified cutscene of a level with loads of RNG at the end. And after taking you forever to finally get a PB, what's your reward? You get to do the same grind 2 more times on the other difficulties.
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ruins and b1 00a - i just don't have the patience for it
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Facility 00 comes to mind.
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Surface 2 A/SA and Statue. Boring, boring stages.
Defection PA. I also dislike CI and find Ruins pretty lame.
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S2 SA has always been the stupidest level in the game
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Runway SA is the worst thing ever but chicago PA is highly redacted
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GE Egypt - Huge, monotonous level with zero need to interact with any guards. Same on all difficulties.
PD - Mr Blonde and WAR! tie. Same idea. Similar objectives, no variety.
Generally the levels in all games are very expansive and creative... these just fell completely flat.
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GE Egypt - Huge, monotonous level with zero need to interact with any guards. Same on all difficulties.
PD - Mr Blonde and WAR! tie. Same idea. Similar objectives, no variety.
Generally the levels in all games are very expansive and creative... these just fell completely flat.
have you not played MBR modern strat? pretty fun
also war agent is fun, boosts go brrrr
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Depot Agent as it can cause a heart attack
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statue. godawfully boring. my times are like 2:36/2:37/2:36 and idgaf to ever improve
runway. can't juggle nades to save my life and I suck at the tank. I can't even get 23 A and my 00A time is like 53. can't even conceive trying to do no-tank strat. insane!
streets- boring af and I always die to kf7 rape or a rocket
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no doak = big nope
fac sa/00
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GE Egypt - Huge, monotonous level with zero need to interact with any guards. Same on all difficulties.
PD - Mr Blonde and WAR! tie. Same idea. Similar objectives, no variety.
Generally the levels in all games are very expansive and creative... these just fell completely flat.
I totally agree with you in both points. :)
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S2 00 has been bumped up a few tiers now that you don't need a grenade and the entire run is pretty fun now