Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 27, 2003, 10:04:00 pm
Open to anyone. Rules:
-Any cheats are allowed.
-Uh, that's about it, if you have ANY suggestions of ideas, post here.
People already in the Rivalry from before:
Dark0Perfection
KillerSim7
Blazebebe
Shade
JugadorJ3
I will update whenever I'm on the computer. So if you want to join, just drop a post with your info, like the things you told Ngamer or youse when you joined the elite.
www.angelfire.com/falcon/.../elite.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/davidfourn/elite.htm)
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 27, 2003, 10:06:00 pm
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on September 28, 2003, 12:10:00 am
Post by: JugadorJ3 on September 28, 2003, 07:00:00 am
Post by: SamSim on September 28, 2003, 08:03:00 am
I don't see why invincibility has to be on... Surely you should be able to use any cheat you like...
Post by: genisics on September 28, 2003, 08:24:00 am
anyway.. prolly should remove me, some times on that page may be fake :P
Post by: deletedprofile.u on September 28, 2003, 08:52:00 am
You have three typos on the main page...
dateDyne - Extraction
Air Base - Espoinnage
Attack Ship - Covert Assault
-Ryan
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 11:47:00 am
Sam, I know about that but don't I need to recompile the whole updater for it to work?
I can't help the typos, the updater does it.
And anyone can help me one this one. For some reason when I'm updating, it doesn't read any of the pages, it just recognizes if the person is in the roster or not. I can't seem to update the times. It worked a while ago but now it doesn't. Any help?
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 12:04:00 pm
Copyright (c) Rational Systems, Inc 1990-1994
FAILED Blazebebe
FAILED Dark0Perfection
FAILED Genesics
FAILED JugadorJ3
FAILED KillerSim7
FAILED Shade
Post by: deletedprofile.u on September 28, 2003, 02:07:00 pm
Roster entries should be like this:
Entry number
Alias Name
Initals
Real Name
Page
System
Eg.
1
Your Eliteness
YE
Ryan Dwyer
www.yourmum.com
yourmum@yourhouse.com
PAL
Put a http before the link as well. If I do it here, Ezboard changes it and stuff.
When it says those people are failed, it means their times pages aren't online. It simply uses a backup of their page which is on your computer. If there isn't a backup there, then it will most likely not work.
-Ryan
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 02:30:00 pm
Quote
Quote:
When it says those people are failed, it means their times pages aren't online. It simply uses a backup of their page which is on your computer. If there isn't a backup there, then it will most likely not work.
But the times pages are online and I can go to them. Everyone is failed.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 02:41:00 pm
Post by: deletedprofile.u on September 28, 2003, 03:08:00 pm
-Ryan
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 03:38:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 28, 2003, 04:25:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 05:01:00 pm
Snowblind
SB
Josh Heuer
#color
page
NTSC/PAL
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 28, 2003, 05:14:00 pm
Villa SA: 1:08
Pelagic II SA: 1:34
2 random levels that I decided would be easy to get the WR on. Villa was second try, and Pelagic was second try...in other words, about 1 hour of playing, slow motion is crazy.
Here is my info:
Not So Perfect Dark
ND
Josh Heuer
#00ffcc
www.geocities.com/_josher/cheat.html (http://www.geocities.com/_josher/cheat.html)
NTSC
Edit: Let's throw a few more in there:
WRs
Pelagic II A: 0:46
AF1 PA: 1:28
Non WRs:
Villa A: 1:05
Pelagic PA: 1:46
Edit:
Escape SA: 3:15!
-21 seconds from SA/Overall time! Nice...it's very easy to get a time like this, I had a somewhat bad finish.
Going to get PA down in this area now...
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 28, 2003, 07:07:00 pm
Chicago SA 0:18
(how the hell did Shade get 18 on PA)CI SA 1:20
Investigation PA 2:42
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 28, 2003, 07:20:00 pm
Edit:
Infil A: 1:11 first completion
Infil PA: 1:55 no cinema timing whatsoever, lost about 25 seconds from that
Rescue PA: 2:45
CI PA: 1:48 (dont know the strat...but I think I do now)
Post by: JugadorJ3 on September 28, 2003, 10:16:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 29, 2003, 07:44:00 am
Duel SA 3
Duel PA 7
Not sure about this one...can't seem to get 2 on SA/PA. What do I do? Shoot him and then switch to like devastator or something?
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 29, 2003, 08:31:00 am
Post by: KillerSim7 on September 29, 2003, 10:24:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 29, 2003, 03:53:00 pm
I was trying Superdragon, which wouldnt shoot fast enough to get 2 (only 3), and the explosion wouldn't stay long enough for PA.
Then I tried instant Devastator, even when I started smashing Z 100 times before the gun was even out, it would only shoot fast enough to get 3.
So I did a 3-stayle Agent falcon shot, switch to devastator, and fired, which was enough to get 2: same with PA, only I delayed the devastator shot to make sure it hit the last guy.
In case you haven't guessed:
Duel SA: 0:02
Duel PA: 0:02
I was thinking about this when I woke up, and I had time before school to attempt them, and well, it worked.
On to Pelagic PA (going to get 1:45 or less if it kills me) and possibly CI A/SA/PA.
Edit:
What about proof?
I have basically every run so far taped, but seeing as they are gay long (from slow mo), should I make some runs? I would like to free my only other tape, but I don't want to just tape over them yet unless I don't have to make the vids.
I could at least make the WRs, like Pelagic 2 A/SA, Villa SA, etc.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 29, 2003, 05:56:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 29, 2003, 06:20:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 29, 2003, 07:09:00 pm
First completion; must not be using the right strat, as this run was perfect.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 29, 2003, 09:35:00 pm
Pelagic II A 0:47
couldn't skip the guards line if my life depended on it
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 29, 2003, 10:17:00 pm
Chicago
A: 13
SA: 20
PA: 21
CI
A: 0:47
PA: 1:36
G5
A: 32
SA: 38
PA: 48
Escape A: 2:26
Deep Sea PA: 3:11
A bunch of sucky stuff
Not sure about Chicago strat. Farsight?
Post by: Djie on September 29, 2003, 10:39:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on September 30, 2003, 04:26:00 am
Ok here are some strats:
Villa PA - Take out snipers ASAP, then go to the basement and press all 3 buttons. Go downstairs, go right, back the other way, and when you're alerted by grimshaw use the farsight to kill hackers.
CI PA - I forget
I tried it after my previous post and got 133
Post by: JugadorJ3 on September 30, 2003, 07:36:00 am
Defection
On PA take him all the way until the lift shuts on him, then go do stuff really fast.
Investigation
Nothing
Extraction
SA and PA - Farsight from the lifts
Villa - Pheonix first 2 guys on A/SA. Farsight hackers on PA.
Chicago - someone else do this.
G5 - Pheonix the cloaked guards
Infiltration - Nothing
Rescue - You'd have better luck doing the good PA strat here.
Escape - Surely you could push Jon the whole way...???
Air Base - A and SA blow up the final computer so that the laser goes down just when you're about to hit it.
AF1 - none? Though I am thinking of a new strat for normal mode... Probably won't work. Check the WR discussion topic.
Crash site - doubt there is anything
Pelagic - Just rocket the guys, do the more advanced strat and be smooth.
Deep Sea - Rocket /all/ start guys, phoenix cannisters on PA.(visible).
CI - Never go upstairs
Attack Ship - nothing flashy
Skedar - nspd's (who cares if he didn't invent first, he is the best at it) pillar strat, supershield for PA jump, dy357-lx for king. Double duck, aiming almost vertical and take out the left ones togehter, right ones together then final
MBR - Nothing
Maian - uber boosting plus cinema timing
War! - boosting and farsight kills.
duel - spin, f2 to the chest, rocket on 2ndary, fire to kill next guys.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 07:47:00 am
War SA: 25
War PA: 28
No boosting whatsoever, so I guess you could say these can be lowered.
Ohh yea, for Villa A/SA, I'm not sure which snipe is easier but I just pause at the start and switch to Rocket Launcher (on Targeted rocket), then I run forward, as I near the edge, I hold R and then swipe it over one of the guys so it locks on and fire, then run away. On Agent, you should make it in the building and down the first set of stairs before it completes, but as long as it targeted, it will complete.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on September 30, 2003, 11:43:00 am
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 30, 2003, 03:18:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 30, 2003, 03:20:00 pm
Pelagic II A 0:46 - finally can do GPS room quick
Matt, you're just playing to maintain your lead.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 04:39:00 pm
I lost about a second at the end, but even with that said, how is 1:12 possible?
I would like a more detailed strat, I was fiddling around with different strats of my own, but I can't find a good place for the laptop (except same place as in normal mode, which seems to only get me 1:18 at best, 1:17 without that last mistake)
If all else fails, I guess it's just that I suck.
Post by: KillerSim7 on September 30, 2003, 04:40:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 30, 2003, 04:58:00 pm
Don't worry Josh, I can't tie Jug's 42 on Extration.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 05:23:00 pm
Anyways.
Chicago A: 0:12
I was messing with the ending, and I did this with the phoenix; it was probably a high decimal, I got about 3 good 13's before I got this one.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on September 30, 2003, 05:35:00 pm
And yes, you're probably smoking crack.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 06:57:00 pm
Well then you better go beat his Extraction A record by 2 seconds because:
Villa PA: 1:10
I had a bad finish, I would say I lost about 1 second at the end, maybe even 2...but other than that, the run was a work of art. I think I'll make the video of this later.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 08:25:00 pm
G5 SA: 35
Infil SA: 1:48 no timing
AF1 SA: 1:23 first try
Deep Sea PA: 3:00, +4 elvis, +7 from Phoenix instead of Farsight on canisters, etc.
That's about it; nothing too serious, going to pick up a few more easy ones soon, then I will start playing the levels I didn't want to play (ie all of the I don't have a time on yet)
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on September 30, 2003, 09:19:00 pm
Maian SA: 1:31
Maian PA: 1:31
Not as bad as I thought it would be. Should be able to get the agent record (at least tied, although it seems like 1:23 or 1:22 might be possible).
SA I suck at. I think I have a better shot at PA than SA.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 01, 2003, 01:50:00 am
Let's hope my records can stand the test of time for a while. Josh I'd love to see your villa 110 PA vid. It would Jog my... *right now i checked to see if i had a vid - and i do! 109 fail* I'll post the strat: *watches*:AR34 * 2 - turn, kill, turn, run up ramp, kill guy on roof, go right, kill next guy on roof, up stairs, up to laptop gun place, throw it like normal, ar34, go to that sniper you always need to kill, kill him, go to basement, punch a guy out down here, rocket launcher 1st 3 guys right downstairs, throw a proxy mine for the appearing guard (appears after hackers are kill), use farsight to kill hackers, r-launcher left over guys. Yep.
Grab the vid off me if you like, but it's probably over 10 megs.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 01, 2003, 01:28:00 pm
finally....AF1 A 0:55
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 01, 2003, 02:49:00 pm
1:38.5 bot....EDIT: I hate EZ codes.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 01, 2003, 03:29:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 01, 2003, 04:00:00 pm
Air Base SA: 1:44
I suck at lasersAir Base PA: 2:07 Matt I need the strat...I do everything as on normal, but when I call the lift (by mine + item and safe), it comes up perfectly (I press button, do stuff, and right when I get back it opens up). But the problem is: It doesn't take me to the right spot, it takes me way to the bottom (backside of lasers), and I have to go up the stairways to the finish, which takes a while. I think I was in the lift at 1:42, which shows that maybe I should have got sub 2 had it not taken so long at the end.
More:
MBR A: 1:16
MBR SA: 1:25
MBR PA: 1:27
Agent was first try, Cass was being cooperative...but SA and PA were horrible. On SA, I lost count of how many times Cass turned around, plus she talked once (or maybe twice). On PA, it wasn't as bad, but I missed the lift terribly (the one that takes you up to Cass...) The girl saw me, but didn't call up the lift or something, and I had to call it up and wait and stuff. it was pretty gay.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 01, 2003, 06:07:00 pm
CI SA: 1:23 terrible
Deep Sea PA: 4:54 (edit: 2:54 obviously, not 4:54, just realized this)
55 elvis, best 51...played some more after and couldnt even get under 57 elvis!! what a fagAir Base A: 1:18
and I suck at the lasers and stuff, I'm sure I lost time somewhere else (are you supposed to wait out cutscene so stewardess is up closer?)
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 01, 2003, 06:38:00 pm
I don't see what was so hard about this; after I realized the obvious strat, (i = teh dumb!11) this came after 2 completions...the first one I got stuck like mad at the start, and then tried to go through the first door at the stairs after lift, which isn't the right way...still turned out to finish 0:45.
Anyways, on to SA/PA, although I'm not sure where the BGs are/how many there are.
Edit: Extraction SA: 0:56
I learned myself the strat...somewhat. Am I supposed to make the second lift? It's not there, but if I wait out more in the cinema, will it be there?
Basically, I got to the bitches at 45, the run before was 44, and I might be able to eek out a 43. So I'm guessing 54 would be good for me, although I don't see where I could save another second.
I played some PA and I have trouble completing; Caroll always dies like a fag.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 01, 2003, 09:09:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 01, 2003, 09:57:00 pm
Two tieds for me:
G5 A: 29
G5 SA: 33
I went thinking SA was 32, so when I got a near perfect run that turned out 33.90 (thank god it didn't round up!) I was like omfg Matt is awesome at this level if he can get 32...then I came here and saw 33, I was like thank you god
Edit:
G5 PA: 41
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 02, 2003, 06:04:00 pm
)Here is what I made (basically, only the records that I had taped):
Chicago A: 0:12
G5 A: 0:29
G5 SA: 0:33
G5 PA: 0:41
War A: 0:22
War SA: 0:25
War PA: 0:28
MBR A: 1:16
Deep Sea PA: 2:54
CI A: 0:45
Extraction A: 0:42
Villa SA: 1:08
Villa PA 1:10
That's it. I didn't get these records on tape:
P2 A: 0:46
P2 SA: 1:34
(I think that's it?)
And I didn't feel like making Escape SA/PA, since Deep Sea 2:54 was over 9 minutes, I'm sure those are about 15 minutes apiece...don't want to sit here another half hour, especially since those 2 are easily beatable first try.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 03, 2003, 06:43:00 am
I'm actually quite sure i got a 31 recently (few weeks ago) on SA.. but i dunno. Surely it's possible and i'll get it as soon as i get my cart back. I watched my 33 vid and i can see plenty of error.
Can you have files in your Getfile available (maybe you do already)? I'll grab a few off you when i can.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 03, 2003, 07:26:00 am
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 03, 2003, 04:34:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 03, 2003, 08:05:00 pm
- 1:39(!) bot, pretty damn good for such a shitty bot
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 04, 2003, 01:16:00 am
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 04, 2003, 12:22:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 04, 2003, 12:24:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 05, 2003, 02:11:00 am
57 Villa PA. Emulated (won't see my times page)... but it's surely about the time i'll get on normal mode, except more like 53 at least.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 05, 2003, 03:11:00 am
. Grab it off me on AIM.edit: I'd just like to tell you how @#%$ annoying camtasia + project64 is - very @#%$ annoying. Also yeah, it's damn hard to aim the farsight with a mouse
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 10:37:00 am
MBR SA: 1:21
Pelagic II PA: 1:45
Villa PA: 1:02
Matt's Villa PA strat works really good, thanks for the strat.
CI = first try, MBR = first try, P2 = first try.
etc.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 11:10:00 am
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 05, 2003, 11:41:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 11:51:00 am
Ohh yea...
Villa SA: 1:06
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 02:00:00 pm
Investigation SA: 2:21
Investigation PA: 2:40
Extraction PA: 1:12
Yep, all of the Invest. were first tries...I had about a mid 56 bot on agent, and I had 1:39ish on SA and PA.
PA = teh scary. I was using super shield instead of invinc., and I came a hair away from killing myself with a remote mine, and it was only at the first computer room! So that pretty much made the rest of the run very scary, so I made sure to stay cloaked and not shoot.
Extraction PA = teh gay. I would be able to get about 1:09 if Carrol wouldn't die like a fruitcake. I have made it to the BG door at 1:00.10, and this run was mid 1:01, I believe...I did that part only with K7.
My theory for why he dies is:
If you go too fast, he warps. Since I do the bodyguard part with RL, i would imagine he warps somewhere near there, since he always dies.
If I get there slow at say, 1:02, and I do it with RL, he won't die. Fast = teh death.
Btw, to guarantee he doesn't die before that kill the first 2 guys with Superdragon grenades, then blow up the barriers and make sure those 2 die, and then blow up next to barriers and make sure those 2 die. Pull out farsight as you get in lift, and shoot the other 4 on the bottom floor.
Then aim up and shoot the girls; there is only 4, but the only one you need to worry about is the one on the left (there are 2 that are to the left...one is a floor above the other...get the top floor one).
Since you have to go to the console anyways, you just kill the girl above, and then shoot out the other 3 as you pass them...then when you wait for the lift, farsight the other 2 that are a floor above (next to each other in the same room).
Bah, well anyways, I hope that helps someone.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 05, 2003, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: KillerSim7 on October 05, 2003, 05:32:00 pm
Ext PA - 1:27
Hmm, I must be missing something if 1:12 is possible on PA. Or maybe I just suck that much? Yeah right, impossible in slo-mo.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 08:09:00 pm
Yea, weird story behind that; I ran to the uplink and started it, but it made the beeping noise as if you disconnect and it said I disconnected...dunno why, but it did. So I had to wait for that to stop and then restart the uplink, costing me a good few seconds.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 05, 2003, 08:11:00 pm
Maian SOS A 1:24
Attack Ship A 2:18
Villa A 1:01
pwned
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 08:28:00 pm
Extraction SA: 0:45
pwned
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 05, 2003, 09:45:00 pm
Chicago PA: 19
Villa PA: 59
blah, nothing too great. Might work on lowering Extraction A/SA, and possibly getting 3 completions for Crash Site, and any other levels I haven't done yet.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 06, 2003, 01:56:00 am
dark0 - you must have used boosting for that villa A... should i take it boosting is allowed now? Maybe you said that and i didn't read it.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 06, 2003, 05:06:00 am
Only big error was that i went through the hole, looked directly up to shoot the robot, went back to running... realised i was still ducked
That cost a bit. Max is probably 127.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 06, 2003, 06:39:00 am
Lab guy was about 2/5 the way up the ramp and i fudged opening a door, but other than that it was nice. 25.6 lift.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 07:27:00 am
I always get there and have to run up the ramp and all the way down the first one before I get to him.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 06, 2003, 04:50:00 pm
Crash Site PA 1:56
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 05:30:00 pm
Will get 43 sometime, maybe 42 (it should be possible...)
And I got some more PRs and maybe a WR or two but I forgot what they were.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 05:57:00 pm
After a few tries I got some 44's and stuff, it seemed like 43 would be hard...I thought it would have to be a high decimal finish. This was a .16 finish...and I could have done a few parts better, so I might try to get an insane 42. Well, not really insane, but very good.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 06:57:00 pm
Extraction PA: 1:07!!
A very nice run, to say the least...with the exception of the second set of stairs, which I can't do for crap.
I made it to the BG door at a low 58(.20, I think). Just yesterday I considered low 1:00 to be very good. Actually hit the copter, which is sad...I have missed that thing so many times...I have no clue how, but I missed it 4 shots in a row with the LX a few runs before, and twice in a run with the farsight before that.
It was a 1:07.95, and thankfully it didn't round up (slow-mo = less rounding, I think I had a .98 finish on CI SA that didn't round up once).
Yep.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 08:04:00 pm
Villa Perfect Agent: 0:56
These, combined with the various others from today/yesterday, should take us comfortably under 1:28:00.
By the way Dark0, are you ever going to change the Duel recourds to allow 2 on SA and PA? That would take off another 11 seconds, and it would really help us out.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 06, 2003, 09:02:00 pm
Investigation SA 2:14
Chicago PA 0:19
Damn it, I would easily get 18 on this level but I have to WATCH the mine hit the door. I've have a bunch of failed 18s where the mine was there but I didn't watch it so it didn't complete. I'll get it later.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 06, 2003, 09:54:00 pm
/* Final sanity check */
if( el[n].rec[j][st] < sanity[st][j] )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;
if( el[n].rec[j][st] >= MAX_TIME )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;
And:
/* Final sanity check */
if( el[n].rec[j][st] < sanity[st][j] )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;
That's the only 2, they are located within the doelite.txt file. I'm not sure if it will work, but deleting those should do the job, I'm guessing.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 06, 2003, 10:10:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 06, 2003, 11:08:00 pm
You guys want to except these times or not?
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 07, 2003, 01:49:00 am
55 Jon + Uber fast ending
3:12 Escape SA (emulated)
Ordinary really - 1:39 Jon
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 07, 2003, 02:48:00 am
I can take this to 44 with a proper system.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 07, 2003, 03:49:00 am
Guards didn't open the locked door to the lab guy until 5 seconds wait
2nd lift was only 27.5.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 07, 2003, 09:21:00 am
Matt, it is "to accept"
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 07, 2003, 03:04:00 pm
Post by: KillerSim7 on October 07, 2003, 06:50:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 07, 2003, 07:43:00 pm
After Matt posted his time...I didn't realize the obvious strat. Then when I tried it...I tried farsight from the first lift, but for some strange reason, the objective failed....I wonder why?
Anyways, here is the rundown on gayness:
28.4ish lift closed.
Long wait for locked door.
Stuck going in that door.
Bad suit...was 4th set of lockers.
Stuck going out of locked doors (I went out opposite side I came in).
Bad last keycard guy...had to back up and shoot him again because he didn't die.
I think that's the only real mistakes that were made...
So I would say something around 2:22 (probably less..depends on how much I got stuck) is real.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 07, 2003, 08:43:00 pm
Very good run; the locked door was opened pretty quick, the suit was in the closest locker (although I bumped the walls pretty bad going through this part...not too much time lost from it, though).
The rest of the run was standard up til the first keycard; I missed punching the guy who talks at the locked door so the tranquie with the keycard started heading to the back of the room, so I lost a second or something from him not being as close. Then I got a bit stuck a little ways out of their on a guard. Bad last keycard guy as well, as usual I didn't kill him and had to back up and shoot again to get the keycard; could have eeked out a 2:18 at best.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 07, 2003, 10:27:00 pm
AF1 SA: 1:21
Maian SOS A: 1:24
Blew a 1:24-1:25 on MBR PA as well, it turned out to be another 1:27...I'm going to at least tie that tomorrow, and possibly tie/beat SA as well.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 07, 2003, 10:37:00 pm
Josh, i had 2:20 Rescue PA (emulated) before you posted that 2:21
... waited 6 seconds for the door to open too 1:43 P2 PA (emulated)... Damn that was frustrating. Getting all the way to the speech skip and failing
I have a Air Force 1 PA strat too
edit: What's so
about 1:24 Maian A?Post by: KillerSim7 on October 07, 2003, 10:54:00 pm
MBR PA - 1:21 pwned
MBR A - 1:17 (I've had a better cass without the slow motion
)I tried SA but had a stupid slow cass and didn't feel like trying again. Might play some more later.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 08, 2003, 07:47:00 am
Do you have to wait for the second lift? The one that the chick calls up when you are in the first lift?
1:21 = really good. If that's possible, then 1:14 would probably be possible on SA, and I'm guessing around 1:11 on Agent.
Post by: KillerSim7 on October 08, 2003, 08:42:00 am
As to your guesses for what is possible, that makes me laugh. You don't know much about this level do you?
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 08, 2003, 03:02:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 08, 2003, 05:52:00 pm
Well, I got a few, and in my second one I blew a 1:22 or so...Got stuck just before the second lift, it was opening just as I got stuck...I was there for about a second, then I backboosted myself to kill the guard in front of me...costing me about 1.5 total...and since it was a 1:19.3x computer, i would say it was to be a 1:22.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 08, 2003, 08:00:00 pm
CI SA: 1:15
Agent is really weak; 40-41 should be possible. SA is very good; either I suck, or 1:15 is pretty much maxed without boosts.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 08, 2003, 10:24:00 pm
And I got my first Attack Ship completions:
Attack Ship Agent: 2:18 long elvis wait,
bad finish, from normal WR TT's it seems a little under 2:00 is possible if you could get a good elvis...maybe we should try doing this level without slow-mo, just so elvis warps.Attack Ship SA: 2:50 Long elvis wait as well...also, very long lift wait, probably around 2:30 is possible.
Attack Ship PA: 3:17 Nice start, 1:03 or something lift shut, long wait for elvis, messed up the brown things, and had to wait a long time at the lift...maybe 3:00 or something is possible.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 12:45:00 am
Attack Ship SA and PA will be done today
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 01:35:00 am
2:34 Attack Ship SA
Worst beginning ever... 43 lift or something... but...
Best end *ever*... First shut as i was approaching, slipped in. Shut the next lift. R/L ed the next 3 guys. Killed 2 skedar for the finish
I hate elvis!!!
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 02:47:00 am
I've got a strat that is fairly good for elvis... kind of. One time an amazing strat worked... but i couldn't repeat it
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 03:21:00 am
Very Dirty Run
1:13 Lift...
2:04 Door or something
Waited 2 seconds or so for both lifts (4 total)
Good ending with good, consistent strat. You complete in 15 instead of 24.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 04:29:00 am
I went too slow moving elvis. Elvis had good potential on that run, but i messed it up.
On to Agent I guess... I really have no idea how i'll get elvis to be good though. meh i'll just do PA
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 05:05:00 am
Need a new time to quit the cinema... straight away isn't any good
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 06:25:00 am
38 Lift
121 Door (damn elvis!
)156 Elvis
16 second finish
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 09, 2003, 06:49:00 am
THAT is why I like the cheaters' league.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 07:05:00 am
Attack Ship SA: 2:39
44 liftAttack Ship PA: 3:00
1:09 lift, should be able to get about 2:54 I think.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 09, 2003, 03:04:00 pm
CI A 0:41 - once I got the strat it was easy
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 09, 2003, 03:11:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 05:03:00 pm
Attack Ship PA: 2:56...Made elvis bad on accident, can probably get around 2:52 at best.
CI A: 0:41
Couldn't help getting this one
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 06:19:00 pm
Def A: 0:07 first completion...landed on the computer, so basically it should have completed way up higher. I'll get 0:06 soon enough.
Def SA: 0:31 ...25? Damn, I must be doing something pretty bad...I can only get around 0:29 at best, but 0:25 is out of the question...I was thinking about the strat all day and can't see any way to get faster.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 07:02:00 pm
Matt, I need the strats for Air Base PA, Defection SA, Attack Ship SA, and I guess that's it...I really don't see what can be done so much differently on Attack Ship SA to drop a whole 19 seconds, and Defection SA 25 is madness...
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 08:29:00 pm
1:23 without cheats = omfg pwned
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 09, 2003, 10:35:00 pm
Escape A 2:29 - 55 jon, but my ending must be way too slow, strat please
I was also working on getting 18 on chicago PA and it really isn't that hard except for the fact that you have to watch the mine hit the door. I've decided it has to be a perfect run to get. I have a different strat I might try later.
BTW, I won't be playing much this weekend, skateboard competition next weekend, got to practice up!
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 09, 2003, 10:42:00 pm
Infil PA: 1:38
Rescue Agent: 1:29
Bah, bad times on Infil, but better than nothing...for rescue, I finally got a run where the guy wasn't all the way at the shower area; he was almost all the way down the ramp by the hole, so that was good. I got an open door too, because I was firing my K7 like a madman all through the brown area before the hole and at the suit guy as well...but I had to pay for it, because when I got the keycard and left, that exact door was opened completely, but shut right as I got to it...so I had to wait for it to shut and then open it, basically "cancelling" the fact that it was open for the first time. Had I turned off invinc, I could have taken off more time as well.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 10, 2003, 03:31:00 am
Strat for Escape Agent ending??? none... Just push elvis a lot; your ending was VERY bad, no good strat is needed.
I'll give you some hints for the strats...
Defection SA... start straight away, go down, throw ecm mine (clearly it's better to glitch down, but i couldn't be bothered
) then go to the cheese.... That's all.Attack Ship.. damn, it's hard to give a hint... meh, farsight. pwned.
Air Base PA...? No special strat here.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 10, 2003, 02:27:00 pm
MBR A 1:19 - good run, but late cass push after disarm and I waited for the lift to come downfor about 2-3 seconds, she talked once
Chicago A 0:11(x10) - I'm convinced 10 is possible but it's pretty damn hard
Chicago PA 0:18
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 10, 2003, 02:28:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 10, 2003, 03:52:00 pm
I still have a few levels to complete on agent yet, Deep Sea and Crash Site for sure, not what else...
I finally got around to playing Deep Sea Agent yesterday, and I had a 2:47 or something cutscene...but when I started off after that, it froze! I was pretty mad...I'll do better, I had a 48 (
) Elvis and I think I should be able to get around 3:00 on a good run.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 10, 2003, 07:04:00 pm
Attack Ship Agent: 2:15
Attack Ship Special Agent: 2:33
Attack Ship Perfect Agent: 2:54
I had to wait a long time for the lift on SA; I think this level might be disadvantaged on SA if you start the level right away, and I really don't feel like waiting out the cutscene.
Edit: Forgot....
CI Agent: 0:40.
-3 for AS Agent, and -1 for this = -4, so we should be at 1:25.59 now
It seems like a long way, but I think we may break 1:25.00 sometime soon.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 10, 2003, 08:23:00 pm
Both were low decimals, and had minor mistakes, probably 1:13 without boosting I guess...I don't think 1:12 though.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 10, 2003, 08:57:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 10, 2003, 11:46:00 pm
Escape A 2:25 - nice time Matt
Attack Ship A 2:14 - first completion
On MBR how do you get the lift down more than once every million tries?
And for CI how do you get him to speak going 40 pace. I can fail them easily but I can't get him to say the bomb thing during the uplink.
Post by: Your Eliteness on October 11, 2003, 12:12:00 am
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 11, 2003, 12:18:00 am
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 02:42:00 am
edit3: deleted the other edits!!!
I have a pwning CI SA, PA (maybe A) strat
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 05:07:00 am
38 is max i think.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 05:30:00 am
That is so maxed. I got off all of my farsight shots ASAP and went past the "barrier" as soon as she said affirmative. Can't beat that. It was .76 also.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 06:10:00 am
Very flawed. I shot a guy with an LX... hit his gun
Cost me a second I guess. I think i have a sub 110 strat lined up...I'm not too sure about how PA will work or IF it will work for that matter
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Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 06:29:00 am
Kill as many guards as possible on the way to Jon (all but 1 biotechnician this means). Push him to the door frame then backstrafe, watching him. Keep walking backwards, and even when you open the door, still look towards him (stand on the left side of the door, looking at the right side of it to see both it and Jon). When it's open enough fire that grenade then look back at bitch. Walk into position for him to run to the wall. Throw like 5 mines around the room and go to elvis when prompted:-/... Run out and shoot that guy that is left behind, then get out your mines. detonate whilst looking at elvis. Keep looking... throw a mine up in the hole and detonate when it lands. When elvis makes his first turn (2nd last if this is vague) start pushing him; not too fast. Only push Jon to the bottom of the stairs and leave him when Jo say "But we...(can't leave you behind)"
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 11, 2003, 09:43:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 11:46:00 am
Oh my. Where do I begin with the mistakes?
After the scanner pickup, I got stuck on the toilet seat thing on the ground for 1-2 seconds. Then I missed the distress beacon thing, had to go back for it...then I pressed B and it didn't activate, so I had to wait another second to press again to make sure I didn't get off the bike.
Then I missed the clone, so I wasted a second shooting another shot at him. Then since the president wasn't completing at all, I decided to wait for him a bit at the top of the tunnel. Waited about 3 seconds and then left...
Missed the LX shot.
Considering my usual UFO shot is about 1:42, I guess this could be around 1:45 using this strat...
And the strat is exactly the same as the normal one, except I farsight the clone instead of go to him and mine, which, in my experience, isn't much faster, and if it is, probably only a second or two.
Other than those 10 or so seconds of mistakes, this run was perfect
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 02:20:00 pm
Not that great...the second 1:15 had Cass running slow the whole way, plus she did some spins as well.
I'm hoping for around 1:12.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 03:18:00 pm
No speech skips, but not a bad run...I had a run earlier that was 2 seconds ahead at the last in-door ramp, so at least 1:14 is possible for sure.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 03:39:00 pm
Skedar Ruins Perfect Agent: 1:28
Both runs were bad; horrible doors on both, plus bad finishes. On PA, I was actually 4 seconds ahead of my SA run but I had to do the army part, which I did bad.
Also on my PA run, I shot each pillar thing out seperately, and I can take out 3 in one shot, plus my 4th one I shot like 6 shots at with the LX. Pretty bad.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 03:51:00 pm
Had some pretty bad doors, but the king was much better...My first LX shot took out 3 of the pillar things, and then I took out the 4th and then last without missing. Maybe you can line up the last 2 at the same time?
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 04:56:00 pm
Finally had a pretty good president...
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 05:13:00 pm
Not the best president...
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 11, 2003, 05:21:00 pm
Had to jump the gap, only made it at 0:29. Was trying some stuff on the king, so I didn't do too well; lost a few seconds there.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 11, 2003, 10:02:00 pm
Air Base A 1:10
I'm not going to play much cheats for a little while. I might play a run every once in a while but not like I used to. I'm going to start playing normal again probably and pwn the sht out of DMan on crash site.
I will still update so you two can have fun pwning.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 11, 2003, 11:11:00 pm
I've got a strat for PA which will work for sure. My A/SA strats may not work.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 12, 2003, 10:03:00 am
I have hit it from a little further back, but I've searched and searched and most of the time it's like, impossible to find...Actually, I think I just came up with strat right now, come to think of it...
(And I mean, I know where it's at, you can zoom in and even find the turrets that are nearby, but I've searched that whole field area for like 5 minutes and couldn't find it.)
I think it was just that I was too far back...if that's the case, then I should be able to get around 1:27, just like SA.
By the way...the strat for Agent/SA is simple.
Don't go down into the cave/hole where the clone is; instead, keep going into the cave area to the leftish, and pull out your mines. Head to the left, and look down a big crack/hole thing in the wall and throw a mine, you will see the bot thing sitting there, detonate when it goes a bit passed him, continue...and you will be up the hill part (first place real pres. goes when he follows you). throw a mine at these 2 bots, detonate and drop off as you switch to unarmed, hit trent...then make pres. good, when you get to the final spot, pause and pull out scanner, hurry up and zoom in and kill fake president.
Same strat for A/SA, except SA has that extra objective at the start and stuff...
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 12, 2003, 08:56:00 pm
huh?
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 12, 2003, 09:23:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 12, 2003, 09:48:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 12, 2003, 11:12:00 pm
I'm just saying, if you do the president part bad, he runs slow. As Randy pointed out, do exactly as he does in his vid and the president will be fast. But you can modify certain parts and he will still be fast...sometimes a little faster.
Anyways.
Crash Site PA: 1:35
What a pain in the ass to pull off!
The UFO shot is so hard to do...I have tried memorizing spots, but it just locks onto to different people and messes me all up. This run I got the shot off decently, but can be better (should be only a second or two slower than SA at best, I'm guessing)
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 16, 2003, 05:39:00 pm
I seriously don't understand the strat. If it's same as normal, well then, here's what I do.
Start at end of second line, when she uncrouches and stuff. Get into lift, get case. Head down, instead of going through the door you came, go through middle door (with cloaking on of course). Kill chick, who's usually in the spot from Agent, so she's way back there. Head back in, go downstairs, put case on, head to computer thing, press button, blow up glass with devestator/rocketlauncher etc, drop down, head to locked door, go in, skip these guys, press elevator, run to next area, rocket launcher near the door, crouch through glass, pickup safe item, run to lift, shuts on you at 1:44.
What am I doing wrong?
Post by: vitor on October 19, 2003, 08:17:00 pm
investigation pa 2:39 - stupid run, slow bot
extraction a 0:40 (.90) - failed a 40.3 before, this was quite easy.
extraction sa 0:42 - can get 40, 41 at least..
extraction pa 1:07 (.06
) - hm nice run, got stuck quite a bit on the bg room tho. villa a 1:02 - nice, no boosts (i suck doing it), can do 1:01 w/o them.
villa sa 1:08
chicago a 0:12 - wtf, 0:11 seems quite hard.. no boosts also
chicago sa/pa 0:18 - both easy, the only problem is the mine throw. 17 is maxed
pelagic a 0:44 - nice run, worst button combination (i got a perfect one before, but didnt get 2 doors opened, costing me the 43)
pelagic sa 1:32 / pa 1:42 - pelagic is fun with slow-mo + cloaking ;p both runs were ok
institute a 0:38 (.26) - this took me a while, i suck at killing that lady on the holo room. 37 is very possible, specially with boosts
institute sa 1:13
did some crap stuff on maian, i need to know the strat, someone explain it to me plz
war a 0:22
war sa 0:25
war pa 0:27 (.2
someone with boosts abilities can do 21/23/25
duel 3/2/2
i have some pic proof for most of the times, i'll put them up along with my page.. i wont do that now cuz im posting from a lan, my internet is @#%$ up again.. but that will be fixed by tomorrow i hope. i'll play some more this week, i'll try to at least pr on all the levels (hah sure).
see ya later
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 20, 2003, 07:51:00 am
"37 is very possible, specially with boosts"
Yes... think of all those places boosting would help...
What is the extraction A strat you used? Didn't i have 42? That seemed pretty good. You couldn't have used the same techniques (i hope
).Yeah. This weekend I'll be getting all the pelagic 2 WRs. Whether i like it or not
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 20, 2003, 06:52:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 22, 2003, 02:44:00 am
I was going to play pelagic but this level seemed to be calling to me. I might try for 32 on SA but that will be WAY harder than 28 on A.
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 22, 2003, 04:04:00 am
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 22, 2003, 05:37:00 am
The run wasn't perfect. I got stuck on a guard for about 0.4
Other than that it was really good though. It was 28.85 FYI.44 Pelagic 2 A
Suppose I could dragon boost 43, 42 would be pushing. I almost didn't see what time i got because i pressed start as it was coming up and it only flashed for split second. 2 doors opened. It took a few runs to work out how to have the 1st door open.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 22, 2003, 05:58:00 am
I got 1:32 (tie) and thought it was too gay to keep so i got this. Fairly good run - a lot of doors opened.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 22, 2003, 06:39:00 am
OMG i wasted a second because i missed the xray button at the end.
Felt so gay. I thought i might miss out on the untied because of that.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 22, 2003, 04:10:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 23, 2003, 07:09:00 am
3:14 Escape SA * 2 (taped) - One where i pushed him *all* the way, one where i pushed him to the catwalk. All the way is best for sure, but harder.
0:53 Villa PA (taped) - Just a very solid run. I can't see better than 51 happening ever.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 23, 2003, 07:35:00 am
It's tough to make Jon good... This was a 1:40, but I noticeably lost 3 seconds before the 1:10 mark.
Post by: vitor on October 23, 2003, 02:13:00 pm
the only thing i think i do different is the bg room. i firstly kill the lady next to the ramp, then while going up the ramp, i kill the remaining 3 at the bottom. then while opening the door, i kill the leader. my strafe on my 0:40 (.90) wasnt that good, since i failed a 40.3
anyway i may play some p2 SA/PA, i want my wrs back :]
Post by: vitor on October 23, 2003, 03:41:00 pm
www.geocities.com/gregkpd/pdcheat.htm
Greg K
Vitor Miranda
the rest is up to you
there are some endscreen proof on my page also, i know they'r not very worthy but anyway
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 24, 2003, 02:44:00 am
What a Waste
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 25, 2003, 07:36:00 pm
Vitor, since you are PAL, (I think?) maybe you should try to lower Deep Sea A/SA for us...I don't know anything about the level, but I wouldn't doubt you could put on supershield and throw in a bunch of boosts and lower the times by a lot.
Also...
I really want to know the strat for Air Base PA. It's *exactly* the same as on regular? Do I use boosts?
And other stuff...anyways, I think I'm going to go for a few records right now.
Post by: bcks on October 25, 2003, 11:14:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 25, 2003, 11:35:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 26, 2003, 12:56:00 am
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 26, 2003, 04:24:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 26, 2003, 06:58:00 pm
Chicago Special Agent: 0:18
Chicago Perfect Agent: 0:19
Air Force One Agent: 0:56
Air Base Perfect Agent: 2:04
Not sure what my times were, so one or two I might have already got...
Going for a few more now.
G5 Agent: 28.1
Stuck a little bit, too. 27 is possible.
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 26, 2003, 09:26:00 pm
Quote
Quote:
Elvi (the plural of elvis)
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 26, 2003, 10:14:00 pm
Hey guys... let's start up the ER league. Within this topic would be convenient.
I'll start us off:
2:12 Maian A ER.
Wanna make a page dark0?
Post by: Dark0Perfection on October 26, 2003, 11:53:00 pm
www.angelfire.com/falcon/.../elite.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/davidfourn20/elite.htm)
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 27, 2003, 06:31:00 pm
If things go well, except a 26/27.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 27, 2003, 08:26:00 pm
Escape Agent: 2:24
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 28, 2003, 05:48:00 pm
Escape Perfect Agent: 3:17
1:38 music on SA, 1:40 on PA. Bad finish on PA...I'm thinking around 3:09/3:11 is possible on SA/PA, respectively.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 28, 2003, 08:53:00 pm
0:52 Elvis, so I was at least 2 seconds off. Then after exiting the first canister room (one with like 6), I took a right instead of a left..since that's a dead end and stuff, I had to turn around, probably lost another 2 there. Don't feel like going for better though...
Post by: JugadorJ3 on October 28, 2003, 10:39:00 pm
I'll also tape a G5 A PAL 28 so i can compare it to an ntsc 28 (get one on tape, josh).
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 01, 2003, 02:44:00 pm
Figured out the strat...Not that great of a run (everything went wrong at the start...) but it's much better than 2:33 obviously.
Matt, my total Special Agent time is 31:16, yours is only 31:00...Considering you have a 1:02 advantage on Deep Sea (according to our current times, that is), I would say you should be well below me...you better get to work.
Same with Agent...23:36 me, 23:05 you...21 seconds ahead. But your Deep Sea Agent time is close to 40 seconds ahead of mine...
Basically with cheats, PAL has a huge advantage.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 01, 2003, 04:21:00 pm
Finally...48 Elvis, my best ever. The only mistake I made was when I got into the 5-6 cannister room, I missed 2 shots and actually had to wait about 2 seconds at the door. Other than that, this run was great..I'm not sure how fast you can get Elvis, but with 48, I'm guessing the best we will every get without boosting is about 2:44.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on November 01, 2003, 11:58:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on November 02, 2003, 03:43:00 am
Going for 2:18 or so.edit: 222, that'll do.
edit2: SA 245. Good enough also.
Post by: Boss on November 02, 2003, 04:16:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 02, 2003, 12:02:00 pm
(and Matt, change your times...He just upedated and your recourds aren't up...)
Post by: Boss on November 02, 2003, 06:04:00 pm
Post by: Dark0Perfection on November 02, 2003, 10:09:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 03, 2003, 12:19:00 am
I was hoping to go for the recourd...I have tried everything I could think of, but have had no luck.
Post by: Boss on November 03, 2003, 02:19:00 am
Post by: JugadorJ3 on November 03, 2003, 06:53:00 am
farsight 2 dudes upstairs
open door
farsight 2 more dudes upstairs
farsight hostage in hologram room
farsight a hostage in the firing range as early as possible
etc
Do the same for SA except do the bottom first and kill the dudes upstairs when you're going towards the first sentry gun button.
PA can save time here too i think, i just haven't tried.
2:23 Escape A. Chumpish finish. Elvis is a faggot.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 03, 2003, 07:24:00 pm
Carrington Institute Agent: 37(.13)...
Well, this strat is about 3 seconds faster than mine, at least (I think I could get 36, but it would be pretty good). So, that means since I used my strat for 1:14 on SA...
Expect a new record on SA soon...
By the way, put on Enemy rockets, it makes Objective 2 fail sometimes, but if not, then the Firing range guys die right away and you complete as soon as you shoot the holo room hostage...so you can "make the cut" without stopping (19.0x for me...)
I'm not going to do this for SA, because completing it with enemy rockets is a @#%$ @#%$. (x2)
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 03, 2003, 07:35:00 pm
Carrington Institute Special Agent: 1:12
First try...had some obvious mistakes, but I doubt I could get much lower than 1:11 with this strat.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 03, 2003, 08:39:00 pm
I think I could get 1:09. The only big mistake was that after I farsighted the holo room chick, it completed right there...but I was about to round the corner to get the RCP, and both the stupid K7 guys were in my way and I got stuck, costing like a second or something, because I'm retarded and don't know how to go around people.
Post by: JugadorJ3 on November 04, 2003, 02:27:00 am
... .71... Should have taped it to compare with Josh's, if he taped it. Could swear PAL must be slower than NTSC... This run was basically perfect.
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 04, 2003, 05:40:00 pm
Post by: JugadorJ3 on November 05, 2003, 02:49:00 am
Make a vid of 37 for me Josh?
Post by: Wouter Jansen on November 05, 2003, 01:50:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 05, 2003, 10:54:00 pm
I have the runs on tape (Agent and Special Agent), and I might make the videos...
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on November 16, 2003, 02:31:00 pm
Air Base Agent: 1:15
Yea, tricked you. I have been playing it though...I've had runs where I would be pausing out the explosions at around 36.25 but it stills finishes at 37.13 for some reason...but I do make some mistakes, I'm close to a perfect maxed 36 though.
How about an update, should be sitting around the 1:28:01 mark, might be the first (and only?) person to ever get below 1:28.
Post by: Jugador on April 15, 2004, 02:40:00 am
G5 A 0:27 (J3)
CI A 0:37 (YE)
Pelagic II A 0:43 (YE)
Pelagic II SA 1:27 (J3)
Post by: Jugador on April 15, 2004, 06:13:00 am
G5 PA 0:41 (J3)
Pelagic II PA 1:40 (J3)
MBR PA 1:24 (J3)
Post by: Chuck-Lalala on April 16, 2004, 10:55:00 pm
G5 A 0:27
Villa SA 1:06
War A/SA/PA 0:22 0:25 0:27
Escape A 2:24
....
www.geocities.com/kaptchuck/pd_cheats.htm
Post by: vitor on July 31, 2005, 04:34:00 am
Chicago A 0:10*
Chicago SA 0:17*
Chicago PA 0:18*
Details in PR's. Too lazy to copy & paste
And I think I did War A 21 but it was so crap.
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Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 04, 2005, 04:29:00 am
www.angelfire.com/falcon/.../elite.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/davidfourn/elite.htm)
But I don't think they are updated anymore (last updated: October 29, 2004, that's pushing 10 months). It still says The Enemy Rockets Rivalry as the title
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 10, 2005, 08:16:00 am
I had so many good strats, but apparently you need the disguise
. Even then, a strat might have worked if she didn't take 2 mins for her to get where I want her.
Post by: chuck on August 10, 2005, 09:43:00 pm
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 10, 2005, 11:30:00 pm
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 11, 2005, 12:36:00 am
56 bot or something ridiculous. I guess I should not use slow mo for up to the lasers. I didn't phoenix boost either (super dragon - very few boosts). I should be able to get it sub 120...
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 11, 2005, 01:46:00 am
Post by: Boss on August 11, 2005, 02:13:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 11, 2005, 03:21:00 am
Sorry Chuck
Edit: Bryan, Guess:-D It's the oldest trick in the cheaters' league book.
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 11, 2005, 06:25:00 am
Still lost a few seconds
I won't be going for lower.49.5 Bot
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 11, 2005, 06:27:00 am
Post by: Wyst3r on August 11, 2005, 10:50:00 am
About the investigation the most logic would be if it had something to do with the uplink.
Edit: Easy enough, Alert some guards with the Farsight to open the uplink door while waiting for the bot(not sure about the timing there). They'll open the door for you.
Post by: Boss on August 11, 2005, 01:34:00 pm
Post by: Wouter Jansen on August 11, 2005, 05:28:00 pm
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 11, 2005, 07:44:00 pm
I used ntsc. Henrik is right.I got the trick to work PERFECT on my first run... but actually I went a bit slow. It seems I can't get it to work perfect again.
Perfect = Guard opens door and you runs straight through without stopping.
My 119 I had to wait for him. Some other run he warps past the door.. heh. Obviously it's possible though, so the max is probably 115.
Post by: Wyst3r on August 12, 2005, 08:59:00 am
Oh yea, I got a 1:27. Horrible bot, Average guards, First try.
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 12, 2005, 11:05:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 16, 2005, 01:10:00 pm
This should work for SA/PA, right? I'm too lazy to try them because I can't even remember the strategies for the levels, it's been so long.
Post by: chuck on August 16, 2005, 01:12:00 pm
Extraction SA 041
Extraction PA 059
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 18, 2005, 11:02:00 pm
Edit: Extraction 106 PA...but 59? How? I think I had a 56.60 bodyguard doorway. The only thing I can think of is to get the door by the computer open somehow, but 59 would probably be open on the return, if you got it open just coming out of the elevator, you could get in the high 40s/low 50s. Or something...
Post by: Your Eliteness on August 19, 2005, 02:59:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 19, 2005, 03:04:00 am
Edit: Extraction PA: 0:47
Should be able to get about 45 if everything goes right, maybe lower.
Edit 46(.25), stuck on Cass a little at the end, could probably get 45 if I got lucky with Cass (hehehe)
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 19, 2005, 06:22:00 am
Are you taking out every guard not directly in your path from the lift? How about boosting? Can you briefly explain the method?
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 19, 2005, 05:34:00 pm
Start off, pause, superdragon grenades (don't worry about night vision, explosions = bright), kill first two guards if you want, explode through blue things, head up to lift, shoot a grenade as you pass by blue things (usually goes through floor though)
Get in lift, snipe ladies (7 total, I think), should be near top of lift...open door from behind, get out Xray, as lift opens run to computer and press it, then take off Xray and head up to top level (Cass office level), I use rocket launcher and take out the three guys as I pass by them, head up to very top with RL out, as soon as it unfreezes, take out far two by secret blow up wall, spin and kill lightswitch lady, then other by ramp, as you head up ramp, and then take out last one by Cass (sometimes she dies anyways from other explosions). Hopefully you don't get stuck on Cass...even so, it's only a second or two lost. Switch to double DY357-LX, before you hit the first ramp you should see the ship, take it out on the run and head up to the pad. End
Not sure about TTs, but it's all pretty straightforward anyways, the only problems are the computer press which is pretty random, and getting passed Cass, other than that, it's all pretty simple.
Post by: chuck on August 19, 2005, 05:47:00 pm
I will play Ext PA right now :P
edit - Ext PA 046 first try :P lost some time to activate the pc and on stairs
edit 2 - Ext PA 0:44 third try
NSPD Its almost impossible get stuck in Cass with cheats I think
Post by: Narigutita on August 19, 2005, 07:12:00 pm
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on August 20, 2005, 05:25:00 pm
Post by: chuck on August 20, 2005, 05:46:00 pm
detonate after the exiting BG room so no big lag.Chicago SA 0:16 not that hard, 8.40 equip
edit -
Af1 PA 1:28 easy :P
I wont play SA cus the pres is a @#%$
Post by: DarkSlayer64 on August 20, 2005, 10:01:00 pm
Being able to make the last lift easily is fun.
Only used slow motion there.chuck: af1 pa 1:28 is cake without cheats
Post by: vitor on August 20, 2005, 10:36:00 pm
16/17 on Chicago, very nice :D
Post by: Wyst3r on August 21, 2005, 04:05:00 am
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 21, 2005, 05:07:00 am
Post by: Narigutita on August 21, 2005, 08:18:00 am
Ext SA 42
Ext PA 45
i like ext =P
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 21, 2005, 08:47:00 am
Post by: chuck on August 21, 2005, 01:31:00 pm
Slayer I know 128 is easy, thats why I said "easy" -.- and its the cheater's league WR ,so..
I can get lower but the pres doesnt help
Invet SA 2:09 bad time :/ first try, the guard opened the door really fast. 1.40 bot
I did 122 Agent with no boosts cause I forgot enemy rockets on and got shooted before lasers :P
Post by: chuck on August 22, 2005, 08:11:00 am
SOS SA 129
SOS PA 132
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Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 22, 2005, 09:11:00 am
or 1:22... I remember it was really good, so maybe 1:22. I have no idea why I didn't post a ton of the times I got... unless I did and the posts got deleted by ezboard. I certainly remember posting about some infil SA/PA times and they don't seem to be there...
Post by: chuck on August 22, 2005, 09:49:00 am
Inf SA 1:23 and PA 1:26 ;/
edit -
heh now I have 122, got 2 elevators closed, 1:17.8 pc at final :S
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 22, 2005, 11:40:00 pm
edit: it would let you get good times on sa/pa because it takes less health.
Post by: chuck on August 23, 2005, 08:46:00 am
On your SA/PA records you used back boosts?
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on August 23, 2005, 08:12:00 pm
Post by: chuck on August 23, 2005, 09:07:00 pm
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Post by: vitor on August 24, 2005, 10:06:00 am
Post by: chuck on August 24, 2005, 03:32:00 pm
Post by: Narigutita on August 24, 2005, 04:15:00 pm
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on October 05, 2005, 03:42:00 am
Post by: chuck on October 05, 2005, 05:28:00 pm
what strat are u talking about? :P
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on October 06, 2005, 01:15:00 am
I boosted backwards for the first hallway, uber long hallway, brown room and stretch after the first lift.
Post by: DYM on October 06, 2005, 12:40:00 pm
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2005, 05:52:00 pm
I thought the possibilty of destroy the ship on sos when I'm in the lift but I cant find it :(
And I cant do backboosts so my life go to red really fast :)
Post by: DYM on October 07, 2005, 09:47:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on October 07, 2005, 10:14:00 am
Post by: DYM on October 07, 2005, 10:24:00 am
Post by: chuck on October 08, 2005, 10:38:00 am
About duel PA, turn and shoot the guard and change to devastator, fire a grenade on the ground and it will kill both John and Trent ( I fired a second grenade 2nd function to kill trent cuz sometimes he doesnt die with 1 grenade) I did duel PA 0:03 with enemy rockets only, thats nice :P
Post by: DYM on October 09, 2005, 02:04:00 am
Post by: DYM on October 10, 2005, 10:43:00 am
Post by: chuck on October 10, 2005, 03:44:00 pm
17 on PA is a #$#@%@ hard to get :)
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on October 10, 2005, 08:28:00 pm
Post by: DYM on October 11, 2005, 05:57:00 am
Post by: Not-so-Perfect-Dark on February 27, 2006, 08:34:00 pm
Anyone play any of this lately?
I still haven't gotten around to figuring out the shot in Crash Site PA...
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on February 27, 2006, 08:52:00 pm
Post by: Grags on February 27, 2006, 11:30:00 pm
do use any cheats you want in order to complete the level?
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on February 28, 2006, 07:48:00 am
Post by: Djie on March 10, 2006, 04:18:00 pm
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on March 13, 2006, 11:40:00 pm
btw in normal you don't need to punch the grey guard or throw the dragon. Both are useless. Luckily both don't waste time.