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The Big Three Plus One => Perfect Dark => Topic started by: JugadorJ3 on December 24, 2002, 03:36:00 am
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I came out of my hole and closed the last topic with 1:15 Villa Agent as post 500.
Post those records baby.
edit: anyone see that error? no? good.
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1 more time till i get in the 5 minute club.
Area 51 - Escape PA - 4:55
Area 51 - Rescue PA - 4:44
Deep Sea PA - 5:00 (I'm gonna get this one below 5 mins.)
Maian SOS PA - 3:53
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CI def Agent 0:55
CI def SA 1:35
Those are nice pointers
-Greg
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yea uhh so like i have a question for anyone who has like uhh is good at CI. on SA/pA, when you start and spin around and go in the door, you strafe past the ramp and turn. now cant you shoot out the second set of glass and cut through the barrels? its not that hard...i do it, and it seems to save a small amount of time...ohh, and on PA, after you get out of the lift, and go devastate the flamers in the black room, you head back to the RCP-120 room. cant you look left to the homo over there and shoot a devestator shot to blow up the glass? i do it, and when you get out with RCP-120 cloak, you dont have to strafe down the ramps, you can drop down...i dunno if these are time savers, but it seems like it...
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MBR A - 1:28
Ok, this will make me 7th on the leaderboard... So when Lecmasta, and possibly Shade get back in (both of whom have beaten all 3 of my times and will bump me down) I will still be in 9th place up there. Hmm, PA would be cake to improve so I guess that is my next target.
A 1:37 (which is pathetically easy in theory) will make me 5th, and then they will only bump me to 7th...
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Merry Christmas
anyways, so like, i got these late last night...
Ruins SA: 1:40
Ruins PA: 1:53
nice. i was just trying to get something good on tape, and i eventually got the 1:53, then i was going to bed...and i was like, what the hell, might as well go for SA, and that didnt take long either. they both had a few very minor mistakes, maybe 1 second worth, and PA had a messup on the king, which lost maybe 1 second. nothing big.
yea so i got them both on tape...
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CI SA: 1:33
gay. i feel so dumb. i realized i wasnt even opening the hostage room after getting out of the lift. so the first try i did it, i got this...and i had like a 56.3 lift, and some other gay crap. yea, and i finished with 1:33.10 , so i think i can get 1:32, possibly 1:31. and i definitely believe 1:30 is possible. gonna play it now...
yea uhh...another edit:
CI SA: 1:32
done with this level.
had 3 more 1:33s, and 2 were high 1:32...this one actually turned out 1:32.80, so i was surprised it stayed in 1:32.
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MBR PA - 1:38
Ahh, the gayness of this time...
EDIT: Ok, well at least I'm now only 1 point and one second behind Paragon on this level.
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1:19 Air Base A
1:48 Maian A
2:23 Attack Ship A
1:13 Infiltration A
0:26 WAR! A
1:53 Villa PA
The worst idea in the world is trying to whoard after you've lost interest in the game. I got all these in December, not that it matters. I just wanna start a fresh month so that I wouldnt whoard over multiple months, incase i PR anymore. Everyone with a few brain cells was in on it anyway.
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gj, SR
most of the times are preety average, excepting the wr's.. i was plenty sure that u'd get war 26, but infil really surprised me.. was it hard? was it god-like? do tell
and NSPD.. about the tricks u said above.. shooting the glass from the barrels wont save any time (considering that the glass u mean is the one u destroy to fall off). and destroying the glass near the ramp on PA wont save any time at all, it's even worse, cuz even w/o doing it, u still have to stop 1-2s, so carrington will say the ship speech before u get to the ship, so u wont lose time at the end..
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wait, you mean you are supposed to wait for him to talk before you do the virus on the ship!?!? damn it i always thought it was after...thats why i suck ass at that level.
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CI SA 1:37
NSPD(or anyone with a good time), what were your tt's for CI SA?
Mine:
Obj 1= :27?
First lift= :45-46
Second lift= :58-59
Bottom of Ramp= 1:21-25?
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i dont look at mine often, but:
after autodefenses, just up small ramp by ship: 0:30-0:31
first lift: 0:43 (hard as hell...usually 44-45)
back in next lift: 55-57
uhh thats the only TTs i check....i think those are right, i get PA/SA mixed...i find myself trying SA strat on PA, and vice versa...so anyways, i think those are my right TTs.
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For CI SA I get back to the starting point after completing obj. 1 at 36: xx. Just watch my vid or something.
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I did watch your vid, just can't see the times.
I only really look at my tt's for the beginning (first minute).
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Question: Does the pres warp(& where) on af1 agent?
Every time I played today I would come up from killing the guy by the pod and I wouldn't see the pres and I would open the door by the blonde's and I would see near me or running to me (by the door) and he would then do circles by the door until I killed him (when I ran toward the pod).
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hum, The pres can be in different location when you come back in the Mr. Blondes room. The closer he is the best time you can get, just to make sure he doesn't run in circles like you mention in your post you've got to enter the pod room to shoot the final guard and then come back. For further lil details you can watch my vid or contact me on aim : shadejf666
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thanks shade
Chicago a :16 A little late for this
Defection a :07 Both pr's a second off the wr
first (recorded) pr's of the new year
edit: af1 a :58
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Gimme some wraps for this one... and some props too.
2:26 Attack Ship Agent.
Not a good time by any standards..but...
I've gone sub 1:48:00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1:47:59 w00t!!!!!!!!!
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gj matt
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thanks vitor!!!
and it doesn't end, does it?
Attack Ship Agent - 222
lift tts
15
44
128
elvis came at 158. I knew 222 was guarenteed.
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testing my sig
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Extraction Agent - 0:54
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Air Base PA: 2:28
i saw greg k got the AirBase LTK WR last night, so i was like...man my PA time sucks. took me 3 tries.
edit: Invest. A: 1:30
WR, but that topic is closed...didnt get it on tape, i was just playing around , thinking maybe a 1:33 would pop up...but i got a good bot and booked it like hell to the end and got this. im gonna try to get it again on tape. (this one puts me at 1:54:59
) and i passed someone else in the rankings i think
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Hey, gj, NSPD.
What was the timer when the bot deactivated the lasers?
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@#%$ if i know...i dont have it on tape either. i tried earlier, and kept on getting 1:34's with suckass slow bots, but ohh well. it will pop up again some other day. i better start taping all my things again from now on...i didnt expect to get anything good, i was just warming up!
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damn NSPD, gj dude. i lost another point with my 1:33
and gj dark phoenix.. 0:54 is 2nd brazilian record, isnt it?
anyway
i dont wanna make a topic for this so.. good news. a friend of mine (one of the dudes that came over my house at the brazilian meeting), found a friend who has a CC, so he'll be able to make some nice vids. so, today i started taping some stuff..
Chicago A 0:16 in 4/5 tries
Institute A 0:54
AF1 PA 1:30.66 (52.75 cutscene
and a bad end)
Air Base LTK 2:31 which i got yesterday
Challenge 30 - 10 x 1
i'll try to tape everything from now on.. mainly AF1 PA, cuz i'll get 1:29
some nice vids in a few weeks, i guess.. that's it.
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You need to get 1:28 though if you want an untied WR there
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Yes, it is... now I'm behind YOU and your 0:51 only.
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well, keep trying.
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damn, i think you can get 1:29 AF1 PA gregk...i am trying to CI PA...i suck at that level...i just recently learned how to skip the end speeches, but ohh well...i suck so much ass at the devestator shot!! not the object. 4 one, but the duel room hostage shot. i got so pissed off at it, i was actually running into the room right in front of the guys, and shooting it in the middle..at least it completed then. then i gave up...i was hoping for maybe 2:00 or something...ohh well.
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OMG, how stupid is that. You have to kill the hostage, not the 3 dudes, ass hole. @#%$ you so much omg I hate you.
-Karl
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whatever fag
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After no luck with 0:16 Archives...
Air Base PA 2:38*
Man I need some serious help with this level, I mean what the hell does it take to complete this level much faster. I could see maybe 5 or so seconds the way I do it (disguise before briefcase) since I had my share of problems with the lift barely making it again wasting time to reopen it and close it. I die or fail too damn much as well. Definitely the 2nd hardest PA mission next to Research, at least that's what I think. Any tips Greg to help me get a time around 2:30 cake like?
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This level is no big deal. I'll do you a brief strat.
First wait in cutscene until "Arrival point". Do 180 and go open the door. Enter lift. TT : 3.7
The lift opens up there, turn next corner. TT = 10.6
Hit Guy, pick up suitcase. TT = 13.5
Come back to lift, pick up drugspy. TT = 17.0
Open the door that leads back outside with drugspy as soon as the lift door opens. Run your way to the Alarm Guard. Quick CrossBow shoot at him. TT = 28.9.
Now if you dont want to get hit or just once you must run very near of the ice wall and do Tunnel Turn real sharp.
The Stewardess shouldn't be too far away. Shoot her quickly. TT = 35.0
Press Start right after u've got the disguise. Select it. Unpause and switch to unarmed right away.
Just when u'll get out of the tunnel there'll be a Dragon guard, disarm him. Usually there will be 2 more. You can easily avoid getting hit by strafing a bit more to the left.
Enter the base. TT. 42.5
Time Second speech nicely and select Suitcase.
Objective 2 message dissapear. TT = 49.5
Reach the top of the stairs at 50 flat
Up to this part you shouldnt have much trouble
Put suitcase into place and run to the Activation cpu. On the way you can disarm the dragon guard IF he's there...if not no big deal.
Climb the lil stairs. Here you've got the choice. To either activate the cpu right away and get a faster final lift or to go disarm the K7 Guard before and activate the cpu after (this will give you less guard to run pass too).
Activate cpu TT = 1:06 or 1:08
Now on your way back select a dragon. Throw it in the corridor leading to the Suitcase Chariot. (this will help you at the end)
Select K7 and open the next door. Here you've got many different settings to face.
The first guard will either : Roll on the side (if so you just run pass him), take quick aim at you (kill him before he does), crouch and aim at you (you've got a bit more time to aim him), or run to the right (run pass him, he might hit you afterwards so if you're low on health kill him anyway).
The second guard will either crouch and aim or just quick aim...either way you must kill him quick.
The 3rd guard can be in different location, sometimes he's just the other side of the wall sometimes he's far kill him quickly and be sure to NOT reload your k7.
While you kills those 3 guards you shouldve notive a dragon lying on the floor. You must pick it up too.
Now select it and run to the Safe room.
When you'll see the room chunk the dragon in it (try to aim the middle of the room). Select your K7 and hide for a lil time (the time your k7 gets out). Now quickly aim the mine on the door and destroy everything in the room (the dragon will kill everyone). Now open the safe and go behind it, when you'll reach the middle of it you'll pick up the plans (aka Archives style). Run to final lift. Usually there'll be 1-2 guards, try to kill one but if they're not in the way dont bother.
Close the final lift at 1:50-1:55 and get a nice sub 2:20 time
I hope this will help you a bit and thats its not too hard to perform.
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I know about that start everything, but the beginning is what pisses me off because when you exit the elevator, there's usually a guard which I use the DS to take him out and open the door that leads out, but a lot of the time I fail because what's her name always sees me. I got too impatient with it and used the disguise strat instead so I could get more attempts at the ending, which I die oh, about 99% of the time
The K7 before activating the computer should help though since then I have the extra dragon to use to take out a few of the bastards. I never decided to get that and the damn message skipping, @#%$ I got my 1:21 A and 1:51 SA WITHOUT a message skip. How much time does that save then, like 2-3 seconds?
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what message skip?
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shade's strat is for sub 2:20, and is pratically the wr strat. i'll tell u an easier strat for sub 2:30..
start the cutscene right away, and run to the disguise.. hope for a fast bitch, get disguise and come back (obviously, kill the alarm guard with ur crossbow before). if u want, kill some more guards before, so they wont shoot u on the way back. run like a mad cow to the elevator, it'll close at like 0:28. do the drugspy thing, get suitcase, etc.. u'll run out the elevator at about 48. dont forget to make the woman talk before reach the elevator (u wont lose any time), so she will just say her 2nd speech now. run into base and do the end just like shade said.. imo, the end is the cakiest part in this level.
i achieved 2:28 with this strat, a long time ago... so u might be able to get around there, with no problems.
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"Time Second speech nicely" Thought that meant a message skip, guess not.
I didn't think so, but my brain thinks weird at times.
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Cakiest part, hmmmmm, I guess since you know the best strat it could be. That's a lot of my problem, not knowing good strats and doing things the hard way, maybe not any slower sometimes, but a pain in the ass to execute.
EDIT: I'm definitely the best ranked newbie here.
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The ending shouldnt cause you any problem actually. Its just a matter of reacting with the guards. Well the first 3 ones (watch my 2:16 vid I kill them so nicely) actually cuz after that in the Mine Room you kill them all in one blow.
Btw did u get Aim after all?!
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Yeah, I've only talked to Wouter on it so far. You look to be the goto person for PD though. It is easy for you guys because you know how to manage clips better than I do. I still can waste half to all of a clip on a single guard if I miss badly early. And when my clip runs out, I'm meat on this level anyway.
In GE, the clips last forever so I can miss my first few shots and still have plenty of bullets left to take out whoever. Thanks for the info though. How about a cake sub 3:30 on Research PA strat then?
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God thats very far in my memory. Easy strat, sub 3:30
Wait in Cutscene about 3-4 secs. Strafe in the right corridor, open the door. There will be a guard standing a Red cpu, disarm the guard (He wont have noticed you) and activate the cpu. Come Back. When u'll reopen the door the guard at the end of the corridor might see you, dont worry just run to him and disarm. Turn right and open next door. Pass trought next room and open next door, 2 guards might be right behind the door so disarm them quickly. Now go next to the "door" in the floor and release your camspy, deselect it right away but dont retake it
. Now open the door in the floor and go down. Run all the way to the K7 Guard with your Falcon or CMP150, its up to you. Kill him quickly and come back. Go up the ladder (you should be back before the "door" closes). There might be a guard up the ladder, try not get hit and disarm him. Go back the way you'll come and enter the "secret" door that the bot will have just reopened (the door we go trought on SA). Now activate bot and everything. Run all the way just like SA (you wont get hit dont worry, those guards behind the crates wont touch you whatever u do...lol). Continu your way to the first Research Experiment lab. Disarm the guard between the double doors. Select your CMP150 and run to the first lab, Take aim at the guard on the left first, kill quickly and turn around quickly to kill the other one on the right. After that look at the scientist. Wait for Joanna's speech and exit the room.
This might be the "hardest" part of the mission, since there will be around 5-6 guards going down the corridor. Myself I just unload a clip of Cmp150 while strafing and hope to not get hit too much. You prolly can kill 1-2 easily and get out without too much damage.
Now head to the night vision room, the 2 guards garding the room are the quickiest of the mission so be careful, they might rape you in a sec. Anyway take care of them and go take the night vision quickly.
Now the 2nd and 3rd experiment room. You can just pass by the guards just before the room (you'll kill them afterwards...maybe). Open the door and kill the one on the left, quickly turn and kill the other one. The scientist will talk, dont bother. Open the double doors and Punch the next scientist. Now try to be lucky and activate the good cpu. Go back and talk to the other scientist for the 2nd time. On your way back there might be around 3-4guards in the door...unload another clip of cmp150 if u have enough ammo...if not just try to pass trought them with disarm and stuff.
Normally you'll come back in the corridor at the same time as the bot, so you can take care of the 4 next guards before the laser easily without being in a urge. Pass trought laser. Run pass the double door and the other huge room.
Here you've got 2 choices, either kill the dragon guards or not. Not killing them result in a chance of dying but saves big time. Anyway take ur date uplink, upload. Select camspy, do objective 1.
Now select k7 run all the way to the 4th experiment item. Kill the dragon guards in the way, taking ur time or not.
The drone gun part can be a pain to the one who doesnt know how to pass them. The best way is to run to middle quickly move perpendically to your line to avoid drone bullet and run to the end.
Tadam sub 3:30 time.
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I always wondered why that door on the ground existed and the ladder, I thought they were just Rare designs.
Well anyway, that's the reason why I couldn't do a whole lot better without using the really insane strat, never knew about opening the floor door.
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*Spam*
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Oh wait STOP spamming in the facking PR topic! I see Bosshardt at last post name, and I'm thinking "Oh crap, the bastard's at it again"... So give it up...
Uhh... 0:01 Defection Agent. Yeah.
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MBR A 1:35 first time playing this level in awhile.
SA 1:39
Pa 1:44
Maian SA 2:12
CI A :56
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I just wanted to get rid of my worst times and I have now.
Research PA 3:27* (cake with the floor door)
Air Base PA 2:28* (disguise strat)
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Attack Ship PA 3:38
slow strat.. i did a 3:39 before where i missed the last skedar, had to reload and stuff.. the dumbiest thing i've ever done on PD. the run could be 3:36.. but my 3:38 was quite the goodness
i got a bad lift at it, though. with a good one, i'll be able to get 3:35 cake style. and i will get that (on tape).
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Alright, now for my next worst time, Research A, how the heck do you get a good bot more than once ever like I have? Is there any trick to getting it more often or what? I know a lot of it has to do with when you take out the camspy and for how long since it can greatly affect the position of the bot, usually for the worse though. There's no vids of anyone getting it either so that's why I have to ask.
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1:49 Air Base sa
yay, I'm passing DarkLight...
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god, lec's pring?
and bryan, no, there's no trick for Invest A.. just insane luck. im 6th and i have 1:33
so dont care about it, just play other levels.. (aka, i will lose another point if u play
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slayerrocket... yeah don't go off at people for posting without PRs. there's never been a rule against it. Just as long as it's not general gay spam.
can i get some TTs for a 115 skedar Agent thanks? or even just tell me if these are worthy...
over the gap - 30
opening the next door - 38
what's next?
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i never paid attention for these tt's matt.. the only i remember is entering the king's room, which is 0:55-0:56 on a good run for me.
btw.. i tried 1h30 on AS PA and only got another 3:38
at least it's on tape.. and i did a lil mistake at the end. im still working there, hoping for 3:35.
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apparently karl is gunna rape attack ship to about 320 in a week when i go down. we'll tape it and everything. he's pretty confident so don't doubt him.
remember when he said he'd get war A, chicago A... he got em right? so i think this attack ship PA may well occur. and i'll get 216 on Agent as well
vitor, is that 55 - 56 TT for a 115?
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I had 57 at the king's room for my 1.15
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greg watch my vid. if you use that strat, and dont get stuck on the skedar for like 3 seconds like i did, you can easily catch like a 2:35 lift, and if you do the end good, you will get under 3:30 without a problem. (i @#%$ and got stuck and caught a 2:42 lift, and i did a horrible horrible ending, but still got 3:37
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Attack Ship PA 3:37
not a bad run.. fast 2nd last lift - closed at 2:42.1. and a bumped end, i was quite slow to kill the skedars.. elvis appeared at mid 3:13.. my best is a low 3:11. 3:37 is enough now, it gimme lotsa points..
matt: i got a 56 king's room on my 1:15, but i suck madstyle at the end.. so with a 57-58 room u still might be able to get it
nspd: wtf are u talking about? i watched ur vid.. dont remember where u got stuck on skedars, but if it were before the 2nd last lift, it didnt affect anything. and ur end rocked.. u fuckin lucky bastard, u were full red, stayed at the mid of the elevator and didnt get hit. and no, u can NOT get the wr with this strat.. 3:34 or so is possible, but 3:30 no way.
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watch again...right after i shoot the brown things, where i go almost full red...the skedar opens the door for me, i shoot at it as i run by...but i dont run by
i get stuck. the lift is near the top when i get there, hence the waiting. which is why i caught a 2:42 lift too...if i didnt lose 3 (yes 3) seconds on that skedar, i would have caught a faster lift...and the start of the bridge was just luck, you must not have watched the rest. elvis comes out at 3:10, which is actually pretty fast...then the first skedar comes out good, and the other two i @#%$ completely out of nervousness. that was the first time i made it to the bridge with a 2:42 lift and actually got elvis out. i made it there 5 times on a 2:42 lift (one being 2:43,i didnt close the door right away) and all times, i killed all 3 skedar, just as i was heading over to the door, elvis dies. hes a slut. so if you catch a faster lift using my 'slow' strat, dont get stuck, and make a fast lift (under 2:40 possibly), then get a fast elvis, and fast skedar, you can AT LEAST get an easy 3:30, if not faster. ahh enough talking...im working on GE turbo...gay @#%$...im getting timesplitters 2 soon, i already beat it, and when i do get it...no more PD ever.
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i dunno if u call the lift it'll come.. prolly yes. but at least for me, elvis is a gay hoe. so what i usually do is wait 1-2s at the navigation room, so im sure that he'll complete the obj. 3.. and i still get to the elevator at 2:39-2:40, enough to catch it opening at 2:41. to put ur strat to work, i'd have to be 5s faster, even more, to save a second or 2. my 3:37 could've been 3:35 if i would've killed the skedars smoothly as u did.. then 3:32 if i catch the lift as u said.. an average end is 0:23-0:24, so 3:31 being possible.. if u are lucky, 3:30. if ur friggin lucky, 3:28-3:27.. but still, is hella hard to do a fast run on AS PA.. so gettin the wr this way would be super gay, although, it's still possible..
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it seems there are ways to get elvis to always complete, without like standing around and stuff, i found a way on SA and PA, but still havent found one on A.
SA: open door, shoot skedar, run open next, turn back and shoot skedar, continue. from my experience, elvis completes like 90%+ the time...maybe im just lucky,
PA: a little slower, open door, shoot, scoot over, shoot, then run in a square, starting at the door you are at, grabbing both ammos (hopefully), opening the next door at the way. it only wastes like 1 second, but it seems to get elvis to complete every time.
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hum i'll test those lil tricks for Elvis soon.. if they work, i might get something better than 3:37. and also i might try karl's strat cuz it doesnt sound that hard for NTSC.
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anyone who can't get elvis to complete his attack ship on agent 90% of the time is gay
haha i know how and don't... hadee hadeee hah hah
wanna know how?
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Nope.
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tell us, elvis is gay
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2 words and a sign for you. it's pretty easy...
fast = warp
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hum.. interesting
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SOS A - 1:51
God this was pretty gay. 1:49 should be easy. Maybe it is ok for NTSC? Actually I know it sucks.
Those damn elevators do not arrive at the same times every time cuz I started the cutscene at the same time all the time, and the second elevator comes between 1:29 and 1:35.
I wonder what determines this?
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hmm...i go extremely fast, and elvis usually doesnt complete...actually, if you go fast and do my SA way, he completes sometimes. BTW, if you dont know what i mean by my PA way, watch my 337, i do it pretty decent in there...
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Hey, won't anybody have an intelligent convo on this? NSPD? You need to improve your 1:54. It totally sucks and to tell you the truth, I barely played 5 minutes before getting 1:51 in a crappy run and had an awesome run which would have given me 1:48 - 1:49 but I didn't even have a dragon when I got to the "wall" that you shoot down and then I ended up with a 1:52 after the trouble. Ugh! nevermind.
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On attack ship elvis completes for me every single time.
-Karl
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"hmm...i go extremely fast, and elvis usually doesnt complete"
lift shut - 44
"locked/unlocked door - 122
has elvis completed? yes.
how do your targets compare?
note: i can and do go faster.
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My TT's are......
2nd lift shut: 0:42
Locked/unlocked door: 1:17
I can and do go faster...
-Karl
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Research A 1:32*
I had like the worst ending, didn't use camspy trick either, 50 bot.
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Infiltration A 1:14
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aka not worth mentioning : 2:26 Rescue SA
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lift shut - 42ish (usually 43-44)
"locked/unlocked door - around 120 i think, best-about 118
yea uhh, so...i should try it again like tomorrow. and killersim, i assume you are talking about infil SA? yea, my 152 sucks, i kinda messed up, although i did catch the first lift good, but my second lift, i had to wait like 6-8 seconds
i suck at timing the cutscene...no matter what, i always miss it.
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you going right nspd?
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Pelagic PA 2:19*
quite the slowness... and i got it twice in 30 min of play.
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i do go right...is that the wrong way?
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Pelagic A 0:55
not a bad run.. almost 0:54, though. this gimme a few points, so yay.
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Deep Sea a 3:19
Deep Sea Sa 4:29
Brings me under 1:54 and I repass NSPD in time.
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OK, I need help. With SOS SA for NTSC.
I heard that you start right away. I have tried this and it doesn't seem to be working for me. I even played one in Slo-mo and I dropped through the hole at 1:06 and everything, but I still couldn't improve my time because I was waiting for both elevators.
I figured that if I didn't wait for either lift, I would have gotten a clean 2:02 (maybe faster since it was slo-mo) so it must be possible to catch them both.
I am just asking when to start for sure and also how much luck is involved if any for me to get a 2:13 or better. and don't ignore me! I want help.
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Killersim, do you know about the trick that makes the guard call the lift? There's a spot where you shoot your dragon and he hears you through the wall. Even with this trick, though, I sill find it extremely hard to catch the lifts. I can catch the first one once in a while, but only when the guard seems to get in the way of the door. Either that, or it is just plain slower. I've never made the last lift, however. Some of the more talented players may find it easier, but I can't seem to get to it in time. On my fastest runs, it shuts in my face about a second before I get there.
If you make the last lift, I would think you could get a 2:03-2:06 provided you don't @#%$ up the ending.
I don't understand how people can get like 2:10-2:15 with NTSC though...unless they totally screw up the end.
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They probably timed the starting cinema differently.
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Hmm. Intiresting. I think I shoot when I am going up the ramp in the first hallway?
Well anyway, I'm not sure how much that helps me. You seem to have the same problem as me Bizichyld. We are both stuck with 2:18. I mean, this is supposed to be NTSC advantaged and I am thinking I can get more points on agent than SA with less effort.
I will definitely play some more PA because I want around 2:19 to 2:22 or so. Yeah right. At least the lifts are easier on PA because you can blow up the saucer while waiting so it doesn't really waste any time. I am still going to play some SA tomorrow and see if the dragon thing helps any.
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I think you're doing it right. You just shoot your gun while going up the ramp in the first hallway before you turn the corner, like you said.
To my knowledge, NTSC has the advantage, but only if you're pretty good...or maybe I just suck. I don't know. The lifts are slower in PAL so you have more time to catch the lifts, but you can't max out the time as well as you can with NTSC's faster lifts. So...if you can strafe extremely well and not get backboosted, and make the lifts, NTSC is advantaged. I have no first hand knowledge though, so maybe I'm wrong.
But, yeah, PA is MUCH easier for points IMO. Relatively same strat, except you blow up the saucer.
I can't remember exactly, but I think for my 2:18 on SA, I waited out the entire cutscene, and caught the earliest lifts possible (without shooting the gun, I think). I don't see a faster strat than that for NTSC, other than the WR strat, so I don't see how people get around 2:15.
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Inves A 1:32
50 bot so a 42 ending. Not bad.
I also have 50+ points on all non deep sea levels.
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lol iggy, i misread that. i swear i saw " i have 50+ points on all deep sea levels"
so uhh i went and checked and was like how the f.ck
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Invest A 1:33
Invest SA 2:20
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Investigation A 1:32
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And Greg K lost another point.
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Ruins A - 1:24. Crappies Run Ever! I just decided to try the devastator jump thing and it saved enough time to make the time seem decent. I think I'll go back for a 1:20 soon.
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Investigation A 1:32
51.6 bot, 1:32.50 finish = 40.9 end, not bad.
took me 1h of play.. btw, i've gain 30 pts with that
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Investigation Agent - 1:32
Infiltration Agent - 1::15
Air Base Agent - 1:20
Mr Blonde's Revenge Agent - 1:27
Mr Blonde's Revenge Special Agent - 1:34
Maian SOS Special Agent - 2:03
Maian SOS Perfect Agent - 2:18
god damn those were cakey. I shaved off... 27 seconds and prob got 100 points...maybe.
btw... ntsc is in my lounge room.
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Dude, you took 2 whole points away from me. Grr. Well, not that it matters, except for the MBR A one. I will go back and get a little higher. Maybe I should go for the WR? I know they are possible because I almost got the agent one when it was 1:25 and the other ones are easier in theory... of course actual play is crap. Ah, new MBR pr's are going to come from me. guaranteed. Maybe not soon, but when I do play they will.
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I dont wanna be pessimist or anything...but Lec's WRs on MBR are out of reach. You should really play something more worth it KillerSim
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Your probably right, but I still know that I can get a lot better times than I have now. So I will just strengthen my place on the leaderboard then.
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oh yeah.. the stats for my MBR 95 pointer...
42 disarm. 4 step cass. marathon lady until the 2nd half of the ramp. snail bitch for the rest of the way. made cass open the 2nd door for herself (1 - 2 seconds slower?). lost 2 seconds right at the end. yelled COME ON!!!
i don't know how i got such a good time. It's funny cos like 8 people had 128.
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MBR A 1:27
cass was slow as hell at the end.. and she also screwed up a 1:24 run.
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216.133.161.34/BRECK/PD/J...%20JJ3.wmv (http://216.133.161.34/BRECK/PD/JugadorJ3/192-Maian%20SOS%20SA200%20JJ3.wmv)
yeah that's the link to my maian sa 200.
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Lec's MBR times aren't out of reach. I got 1:31 on pa, easily.
-Karl
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and plus with the new 3 seconds timesaver that greg, karl and i pioneered i think the records will crumble. it's post elevator...see if you can figure it out...rack your brains!
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gj on the 2:00 matt.. i'll see ur vid when it's up.
3 seconds timesaver? yeah, tell us.
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Picked up the controller again today, played for like 5 hours. This is what i came up with:
1:52 Air Base SA
0:51 WAR! SA
2:55 Attack Ship SA
1:38 Crash Site SA
1:40 Extraction SA
2:15 Investigation SA
1:54 Extraction PA
1:02 WAR! PA
0:56 Air Force One A
Thats about 250 more points for me.
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Those are just more of your whoarded times, silly.
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ie no POM for you, you crazy american
217 maian PA... yeah wtf. How did the last lift come 5 seconds faster for karl, hm? I've had like 6 217s - 218s
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216 maian PA.
This level is THE MOST fun level...up to the lift. where upon all of my runs are routed. I mean i only stood there for like 6 seconds
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118 air base A
tooo easy.
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Air Base SA 151
think i'll be playing THAT again
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matt, go for 1:17/1:48.. they'r so-oh easy.
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Extraction A - :57
Villa A - 1:22
SOS A - 1:49
Well, these PRs look pretty crappy around here. I guess the SOS is ok. That was my main PR. Don't know why I'd play a disadvantaged level, but anyway. 1:51 was just pissing me off. Just sitting there and... ugh! Well it's gone now. It is funny though how I can't seem to improve my 2:18 SA. I think that will be next.
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Crash Site Agent - 1:29
WORST RUN EVER!!!
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I should manage 148... but there is no point going for 117. Besides if i went for anything on air base A it would be 116. I've had the TTs met but...ahh it wasn't to be
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What are your TTs Matt?
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ci a :55 * 1 sec improvement
war pa 1:01 * 2 sec
attack ship pa 3:57 * 2 sec
as sa 3:01 * 7 sec
mbr 1:35 1:38 1:43 * 1 sec on each, i think
and a couple more 1-2 sec improvs on some other levels.
I actually got these yesterday and they've been on my times page since yesterday but i'm just posting now.
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Here are the prospects for my:
1:48 air base SA
42.5 open that door
121.7 lift shut
yeah so basically the run was really gay. I wasted a whole second by not shutting the lift and well...42.5!!
don't you have like 40.3 or so shade?
edit : oh yeah... I had early 51 when the timer appeared on Agent (no gun).
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Air Base PA - 2:20
Yeah. 109 computer so you prob know what i'm thinking
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yeah I had around 40.5 entrance on my 1:46, too bad I screwed up my ending.
Anyway. I wanted your TTs for 1:16 AB A since u reckon u've met them.
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Extraction A 0:53* (0:53:43)
0:16:43 Obj A
0:40:33 timer stops at door
Extraction SA 1:39* (1:38:96)
0:18:05 Obj A
0:51:16 2nd lift closed
1:16:55 timer stops at door
I lost 3-5 sec for getting stuck behind Cass.
Infiltration A 1:15* (1:15:15)
0:16:50 after gate message
0:31:65 after explosive placed message
0:48:96 after hanger accessed message
about 1:06:50 last lift opens
I'm now back into 18th place.
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yeah 51 timer appearance would certainly get me 116.
Hey, Shade, try this: exit lift, strafe to terminal, blow it up while right next to it then pump it past the 1st laser without waiting. I'm yet to pull it off but it's faster.
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Extraction Agent - 53
Bosshardt, we both lost a second on our finish
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Yep, I screwed up the first door and I had to open it again since I opened it, closed it kinda of thing so that sucked. I'm more upset about my bad ending on 1:39 though.
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haha then you should see karls' 131 run (something like that) ...it was WR when he got it and cass was there for about 4 - 5 too!
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Check my PD folder for my 148 air base vid with voice commentary. Check it out. Not good or cool or anything by any means but i made it so shade could tell me what i can do better.
Check it out! go the Aussie Voice
Tell me if i am like Stever Irwin.
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Yeah just got the vid. "Can you get any better" Sure you can
Anyway,
Beginning: You start cutscene way too late, thats the reason you get stuck when you first enter it.
Drugspy : put it just a bit more to the right.
Exit lift : You got stuck madstyle, with the drugspy on the right you'll be able to get out almost in the middle of the lift.
Getting suitcase : Perfect, your TTs were just slow cuz of your lift.
Opening door with drugspy: Not really significient, but you definitely can open the door from farther and quicker than that.
Shooting guard: Perfect style, the slow-down must be due to a lag in the capture.
Shooting Stewardess : Stay closer to her if you want to shoot her in full strafe.
Coming Back to Entrance : Perfect.
Going to suitcase : Nothing to say.
Climbing the stairs to Computer : I guess you go a bit too much to the left, you don't lose a lot of time but you could do it faster than that. And dont go THAT far to activate the computer.
You know that Already : Shut the lift's door
Shooting Terminal: Nothing to say, you got it in 7bullets.
Passing the lasers : You shouldnt stop, as Bosshardt said, when you restart strafing you're not at 100% speed, so you should keep the strafe all the way.
Nice run after Main Entrance, you definitely screwed First lift.
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Rofl, I have to admit, Austrailians have the coolest English accents. And, yeah, you do kind of sound like Irwin.
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Air Base A 1:20* (1:20:40)
I guess blowing up the glass doesn't mean 1:19 is automatic...
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thanks so much for that shade. I'll work on my starts...maybe i can pop a sub 40 now as i can do 40.5's already even with the sucky first 10 seconds.
now... i got an extraction SA time. It might have been 139 or 138...i'm leaning towards 138 but there's no way i'm claiming it so yeah.
Extraction SA 1:39
Targeted Rocked
do you know how much that loses?
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Extraction SA 1:38
Stuck on Cass, 2 shots on the butch lesbian Pair, the lot.
Considering I've had a 104 door open and this was a 108 AND i was stuck on Cass I figure that if i tried i could get 131 or so.
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Rescue Agent - 1:33
Rescue Special Agent - 2:32
Carrington Institute Special Agent 1:35
1st good, 2nd and 3rd bad.
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Mr Blonde's Revenge PA 1:38
Anyone who thinks along the lines of:
"this level is gay, cos cass is a whore. I'd have great times if it weren't for her"...
...is retarded.
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w00t, I'm retarded! w00t! w00t! w00t! me=retardw00t!
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Very true Matt, and yes Wouter , you must be a retard
I got once 1:34 on MBR PA with a slow Cass all the way...
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Matt, for the love of god, get :27 War A. Your times rock and yet you don't even have :27, tsk tsk
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YES SIR! Promise.
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well.. i tried to play pd today but all i could play was 1 min of combat simulator. i barely (is barely a valid word here?) could hold the controller correctly. im really addicted to TFC.. well, not that much, but still, im playing it a lot. joined a clan a few days ago, and im already one of the 'goods' at the brazilian servers.
anyway, i prolly wont play pd for the next weeks/month. i might be back someday.. or not. who knows?
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Maian SOS Agent - 1:41
I'm glad i wasn't having finishing troubles when i got 2:00 SA
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Air Force 1 PA - 1:35 (.95 not rounded
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Air Force 1 A - 0:58
I'll fix it.
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I'm terribly disappointed Matt. Get :27 now! No more posts in here until you do.
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I have tried. Guess i'll try some more now. I find it very hard
Air Force 1 Agent - 0:57
The burden is gone!!!! I had a 47 point 59
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War! Agent - 0:27
6 boosts (ashamed i had to use them) - 3 at the start and 3 on the stretch before the skedar with the mauler.
I got 27 the first time I got both the mauler and the door was open
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Do you think you're good matt? I got a 27 with the door SHUT....
-Karl
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27 with the door closed? yeah right.. well, maybe with a perfect door open.. but.. whatever.
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congratulations karl.
Maian SOS PA - 2:14
*2nd on the leaderboard*
Air Force 1 SA - 1:27
Carrington Institute SA - 1:34 (Got this one a few days ago but didn't post it. Not whoreding, just forgot)
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defection sa :46
defection pa 1:55
first set of tries using the glitch
af1 pa 1:36
forgot this one:
Maian A 1:48
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on Defection A, how much time does it save to bounce off the guard's head? I can't get 6 with the door and I can't get the glitch off the guy's head
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i really suck at the defection glitch, but i think that both door/guard ways are the same, but with the door is harder to do fast. if u REALLY suck at the guard, do it door's way
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If you want 6 then practise going off the head. Start straight away and wait until he's in the right position then attempt it. Practise makes perfect.
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I got my 6(.91) from the door... I've never done the glitch from the guy's head. QB also got his off the door.
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Thanks guys. I like going off the guard's head that way I don't have to wait for the cinema, but I usually get stuck or drop off to the ecm computer area.
Defection A 7.13
So close. I already had 7 so I guess this isn't anything new. Used the guard's head. 1 out of like 30.
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AS PA 4:45
It still sucks, but I'm in the 5min club now. Whoever is able to add me there, please do it.
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Well done PDM
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You can do the glitch with no guard and the door closed.
I think the guard saves time over the door open though.
I got my 6.61 with the guard. Got like 7.??s with the door.
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Good luck getting into the 5 minute club. I've been "in" it forever, but have I been added? Not that I know of. lol
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CI PA 159.
a) PAL
b) Not good for PAL
c) will improve
I also got a first try 1:34.13 on SA (pal) ... I'm fairly skilled after playing PA and i can get 26.8 writing disappearances.
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G5 PA 1:12
Rescue A 1:36
Extraction PA 1:52
I'm happy with all these times. Next, I'll go for War :27. Just haven't gotten to it yet.
Edit: Btw, good job on 1:34 and 1:59 Matt. As bad as you may think they are, I'm still jealous. (I have a close 1:35 and far 2:03).
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Hey, very nice G5 PA time there iggy. It's never been my level unfortunately.
1:33 CI SA.. (.06)
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Why are you playing PAL when you have NTSC?
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CI is very little disadvantage. My PAL system was hooked up and i was too lazy to fix it up.
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that's the spirit, matt.
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2:02 SOS SA good run, bad ending
total time is now 1:46:59
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1:18 Air Base Agent
1:27 Villa SA, bad run overall...
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Air Base SA - 1:56
Bad beginning, good ending (lift shut at 1:29).
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holy crap, ur end was just good as mine on the 1:48.. get at least 1:52 u brazilian hoe
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Air Base SA - 1:54
Bad beginning (not SO bad though), bad ending (lift shut at 1:25).
Do you want this on tape too?
P.S.: I WILL get a 1:52 or better, just wait... (yeah right
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I think this is the first time I've ever used the PR topic, but hey, this place could use some posts.
Pelagic A - 1:12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
7 seconds closer to points, w00t!
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lol! Good Job QB.
I'm gonna pray to you and then go play some WAR! Sorry, stupid joke. hehe
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1:18 Air Base A
normal run, used the slow finish strat at the lasers since I don't know how to do the fast one. My computer broke 2 weeks ago and I've only been posting from school, so no movies for me right now. I should get it back tonight.
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2:01 SOS SA had to shoot the guard because of some health issue, costing me the wr, but I'm satisfied with it for now, since the run was fast.
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AF1
A - 1:04 (was 1:19)
SA - 1:35 (was 1:47)
PA - 1:58 (was 2:13)
I figured out my major error I kept making. lol, it was pathetic.
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I haven't seen anyone post since the tenth but I still lost 3 points. Hmmm, I like the POM race goin' on right now.
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hehe, I have a good chance, with my 2:00 SOS SA time
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War! Agent - 0:28
War! SA - 0:55
Dman for POM, KillerSim for runner-up, me for mention.
What an incredible POM race.
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I should play a little more. I've gained like 0 points this month and I am still worthy of a runner up? Maybe I should play a little. Get like 100 points and POM! probably not unless I get some better MBR along with them. I could easily get my second mention this month if I would jsut play.
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Amoore's gunna get 6 duel SA and a 100 point gain. You all have no chance.
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-Adam
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G5 A 0:57
G5 SA 1:06
G5 PA 1:36
Escape SA 4:25
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Escape: A 2:45 cake, but bad run.
PA 4:16 bad run, too.
now I'm just 3 secs away of my SA time in this level.
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*lol*
Escape: PA 4:02 min (Damn! I want to get under 4 minutes!
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And now my PA time is 11 secs better then my Escape SA time!
First of all, I want to get my PA time under four minutes and then, I will have to play SA and get my SA time under four minutes in this level!
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G5 PA 1:26
Infiltration PA 3:38
(My previous time was 6:0x - I hate this level)
Escape A 2:44
Escape SA 4:07
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@ your eliteness:
great job in escape!
I needed so much time to achieve my times! lol
new PRs:
Escape: SA: 3:55
PA: 3:56
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Air Base SA: 2:00 bad run overall.
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Air Base Agent - 1:21
Good job in Escape, DarkEmpire.
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Fastest Death - 0:17 (Rescue PA)
Rescue SA 2:54 (from 3:13)
Rescue PA 4:38 (from 6:44)
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Defection PA 2:06
I missed the console and had to go the long way around.
Skedar A 1:28
Skedar SA 2:05
Skedar PA 2:28
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Escape SA - 4:16
Escape PA - 4:47
Investigation PA - 4:22
Pelagic II SA - 2:44
Deep Sea Agent - 3:32 (I'm NTSC)
Deep Sea SA - 5:01 (NTSC)
Ruins SA - 2:09
- Dark Slayer
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Crash Site PA 4:24
Better than 9:43. I used a kill-everthing strat.
Maian SOS PA 3:13
My PR was 8:07
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some new time since i'm on holiday
investigation A 1.34
MBR AP 1.54
Deep Sea AP 3.58
Infiltration AP 2.52
AS AP 3.45(run on tape)
AS AS 2.54 (Wouhou AS's leaderboard, run on tape)
escape AP 3.57
maian AP 2.28
New overall 1.59.32, ngamer you can add me in the 2H club!
still one level (investigation AP and i'll be in the PA 4min club
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Investigation AP 3.59
YEEEEEESSSSS Ngamer, you can add me on the PA 4 min club!!!
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Usually one's last level will be attack ship or deep sea. Odd. Congrats anyway!
I'd like to inform people that in the next... 5 days i'll be getting the crash site PA record. I've said it now so i'll have to do it, lest i look like a fool.
*gulp*
POM effort? we'll see.
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thx J3
Good luck for CS.
Invetigation AS 2.20
G5 AS 1.05
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Escape SA 3:57
Escape PA 4:45
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Funny Blazebebe. Both of those times tie mine... not saying mine are that good or anything. My G5 time totally sucks.
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lol^^ but if your times tie mine, they are pretty good
I suck too on G5
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CS AS 1:41
P II AS 2:25
MBR AS 1:46
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You tied my PII SA time. Wait a sec, why do I keep looking and seeing this crap? heh
MBR SA - 1:34... oh wait, it's not new. But hey, I got it more than once, so why not post it more than once? I better quit spamming and go get a PR!
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Attack Ship PA - 4:33
It's more than a minute away from the World Record, and it's STILL worth 34 points.
Extraction Agent - 0:54... oh wait, it's not new. But hey, I got it more than once, so why not post it more than once?
- Dark Slayer
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Villa PA 2:16
Deep Sea SA 3:56
Deep Sea PA 4:29
I believe that makes me eligible for the 5 minute club... whatever that is. Would someone please care to explain it?
*Says the magic words*
"Ngamer, add me to the 5 minute club."
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now I beat it
Pelagic II AS 2.14
SOS Maian AS 2.09 !!
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Extraction PA 2:15 (from 4:48 )
Infiltration A 1:21 (1:25)
AF1 A 1:05 (1:06)
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Extraction A 0.57
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Deep Sea Agent - 3:25 (NTSC)
- Dark Slayer
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Deep Sea Agent - 3:24 (NTSC)
Pelagic II Agent - 1:04
- Dark Slayer
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Extraction SA 1:59
Maian SOS A 1:47
I made the elevator... just.
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P II A 1.01 (done yesterday, always in February
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Yeah!!!
Air Force One Agent - 0:57(.10)
I was trying to get anything better than 1:02 (my previous time), and then a nice 57 popped up. Yeah, I'm very happy with this.
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Air Force 1 Agent 0:57
My 1st PR since November as far as I can remember.Yes , I announced my comeback on the French Elite , told W007er too.I mainly come back to kick Darkmasters ass.He shouldnt have beaten my Overall Time two months ago.
Talking about the run , it may be surprising but it was harsh to get , mainly because I totally suck at the beginning.Cutscene was at 2666 !!!! I mean Shade can often cut it below 26I cant skip Carrys line w/o losing time
After that the run was pretty solid , pres was the same than in Shades movie , and the boosts stoppd approximatively at the same timeBut I do suck at pushing the bastard in a straight line to the podEnding at 5785The funny thing is that I actually got it twice , but the first 5785 I did was somehow rounded up
Dark Phoenix , you're either the most lucky @#%$ player around here (I have never seen any player jumping like that from 1:02 to 57 on AF1) or the worst liar ever.
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Go Vinze!
Like I said, I was very lucky. I was trying to get a 1:00 or so, and then I got a 0:57 after half an hour. And I got the fastest pres warp ever.
Anyway, good job in AF1, Vinze.
Well...
Pelagic II Agent - 1:02
Pelagic II SA - 2:20
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I did a 1:02 to 0:58 jump, but I had to work at it for 0:57.
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Then my pres was faster than yours, I suppose.
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And the fact that it was a .10 decimal, very lucky. It wasn't a simple matter of getting a fast prez for mine, I had to fine-tune the whole part before the cutscene, going from a 1:02 to a 1:00 then taking off one second on down to :57. 57.10 seems awfully lucky coming after a 1:02.
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I was very unlucky for not getting a 0:56, imo.
Or maybe I was as lucky as Matthijs. He got Silo SA 1:18 after 8 minutes. Bosshardt got a 1:16 only after 18 hours, though.
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0:55 AF1 A. (If I would count the number of time I got that...lol)
well actually people this level is mostly the beginning and the ending. I can do 0:56 with a far pres, you just need good pushing technic and all. Vinze the first line of Carry shouldnt pose any problem... its like .15 after u reach upper floor. Timing take about 10-15tries to get used to but it saves up to 0.7. So its worth it.
26.62 Cutscene is pretty lame tho. You should be able to score 26.10 easily and get 56, gives a couple of points I believe.
Off to get 0:54
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I like when people talk GE on the PD boards.
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I guess i didn't take that strat into account. I only first saw it on shade's 55 vid, and I never got around to trying it. So...maybe it's easier than I thought.
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Well doing like Shade does is quite helpful as long as the prez comes from close.There is only two kinds of situation : he's either far far away (and you can heard an explosion) or quite close (and the explosion will appear on the final scene).Quite a gau level though.Yeah I may go back to it , but not now
BTW...
Carrington Institute SA 1:33
Damn it , it took me 6 hours to get a completed 1:33.I had like 25 very low 1:34 like 1:3415 etcMy TTs arent that good , lift on the second floor fully closed at 567 (best=559).Ending at 13366.I can see 1:32 possible , yet I wont try.
Go me
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Just a question Vinze...why dont u wait NTSC to play Lift Levels?.... I find it quite pointless that you lose your time on those.
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Well that's not that easy.I went yesterday to the biggest town close to my house (Nancy , 100K inhabitants) , and couldn't find a PAL N64 for you.No shop sells one , that's quite gay.I may try to find one today , but now I'm not that sure that I will find one to send you , yet there MUST be at least one remaining somewhere around...
PR Time now :
War! A 0:27
Easiest time ever achieved;It took half an hour , and it was just the time to feel how to shoot the ground.The boost thing is quite funny.Thx to Bryan for having discovered it , its not on all levels that youre laughing while playing
Deep Sea A 2:36
Quite a cake.A 59 Elvis , and a clean run.If only I could do the start quicker and get a better ElvisWhatever !
Sucram has officially been kickedHell !!!
*dances*
Go me
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Defense PA: 3:16
I know it's not a WR, but hey. I only started playing this a week or so ago.
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Oh, S***!! >_2001.
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Pelagic II Agent 0:56
Well that was my goal , took two hours.It was a 55 run however , but the second last door was closedI lost a sec here.Too bad.All right though , the time is not that bad.
Pelagic II Special Agent 2:00
Meh.My dream is to go below 2m on that level , so Im not fully happy.I should have on that run , but I got stuck on the last door , loosing the holy second.Whatever.
I cant believe Im hunting Carnski at the Points Rankings
And oh yeah : all the PRs I got since Im back are fully taped.Yay.
Go me
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1:36 invest a
1:08 extract a
//Patrik
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For CI SA/PA... i believe this is faster. It may save you the 0.4 you need or so to break 133.
You strafe against the first door for max speed, then come out on right strafe using look down and stay like this until the next door.
If that's not faster than the old way they i'll hurt myself.
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Maian SOS PA 2:34
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Has Jugador vanished from the face of earth?
Quote:
I'd like to inform people that in the next... 5 days i'll be getting the crash site PA record. I've said it now so i'll have to do it, lest i look like a fool.
I guess he's a fool now.. too bad we don't see him PR'ing anymore..
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0:48 WAR! SA (Karl's strat)
finally, I don't have to play that level anymore, I'm really sick of it...
*goes play WAR! PA*
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5 days was foolish to say. I do intend to play the level though. Some time.
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Deep Sea SA 3:14
Gay Time.A 1:08 Elvis.I got 3:15 with a 1:11 (!!!) Elvis , meaning that with a 1:04 Elvis I would tie the WR.The funny thing is that I already got a 1:04 Elvis , but I just screwed the run up.Whatever.36m SA mark broken.
Go me
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first complete of escape and rescue ever!
6:13 Rescue PA
5:21 Escape PA
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0:57 WAR! PA
yay
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Escape AP 3.53
Extraction AS 1.47
War A 0:27
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War AS 0.53
Infiltration A 1.19 (.26)
I'm alone
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The Week's PR's:
0:14 Defection A
1:36 Investigation A (11 times, once .00)
1:08 Extraction A
1:20 Villa A
1:21 G5 Building A
3:53 Rescue SA
6:18 Rescue PA
5:17 Escape SA
5:21 Escape PA
2:25 Crash Site A
1:22 Pelagic 2 A
8:18 Pelagic 2 PA
13:16 Deep Sea PA
2:20 Carrington Institute SA
4:13 Carrington Institute PA
4:22 Attack Ship SA
6:48 Attack Ship PA
7:09 Skedar Ruins PA
3:26 MBR
7:33 Maian SOS PA
0:28 WAR! A
0:58 WAR! SA
1:18 WAR! PA
//Patrik
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Escape PA - 4:46
Pelagic II PA - 3:58
Maian SOS PA - 2:57
Pelagic II Agent - 1:00
Man, I suck.
- Dark Slayer
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infiltration A 1.18
i'm not alone
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Escape SA - 4:05
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G5 SA - 1:04
Escape SA - 2:52
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Quote:
Escape SA - 2:52
hmmm...fine, that you've broken the WR for 42 seconds!
Would you tell us you're strategie, please?
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I guess it means: 3:52 =)
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LOL^^
Attack ship A 2.18 (on tape, but it's not a good run)
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It's Rescue SA - 2:52
Thanks, DarkEmpire.
G5 Agent - 0:54
G5 PA - 1:35
Investigation SA - 2:21
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np phoenix.
I've played a couple of minutes some minutes ago and I saw, that I have no more skill. It's pretty shitty, but I wanted to get under 2 hours....
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1:04 Extraction A
1:22 Infiltration A
1:37 Air Force One SA
1:53 MBR A
0:55 WAR! SA
1:07 WAR! PA
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0:18 Chicago A
/Patrik
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Attack ship AS 2.49
I've got AS A 2.18, AS AS 2.49 and AS AP 3.45 on tape, must I put them on line? or can I erase them??
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Get them online!!
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Quote:
I've played a couple of minutes some minutes ago and I saw, that I have no more skill. It's pretty shitty, but I wanted to get under 2 hours....
Hey, keep playing. This is happening because you're improving your skills, and it's harder to get new PRs. But once you get a new PR, it'll be easier to get new good times. This happens all the time.
I want to get under 2 hours too... but I'm 16 minutes away.
I keep trying, though.
Great job in Attack Ship, Blazebebe. Put your runs online!
P.S.: Sorry if there are any typos, my English is bad.
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Investigation SA - 2:19
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Investigation PA - 4:21
One second improvement.
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AF1 SA 1:30
AF1 PA 1:39
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Heh, I read "AF1 PA 1:30" instead of SA and I was like "WTF??? That's amazing!"
Nice times, Your Eliteness.
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Here is some new PRs for me..
Crash Site A - 1.45
Crash Site SA - 1.59
Crash Site PA - 2.40
AS SA - 3.31
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2 new times today:
CS A - 1.40
CS SA - 1.57
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1:38 Extraction SA
I can see around 1:36 here.
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ok ok, i'm going to put them on line, but it's not a very good quality, because it's with my webcam! (i've already Chicago A 0.16, AS A 2.28 old strat and AFO A 0.58 old French record
)
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SOS SA - 2:15.
heh, I haven't played in months and I improve this level first go. Maybe I should start playing. Not as hard to improve as I imagined. lol
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I have PAL and I don't understand the new strat. I've watched SimThreaths vid, and I don't understand it. WALKTHROUGH plz.
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1:45 Ext PA
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g5 A - 1.01
g5 SA - 1.17
g5 PA - 1.35
all some sucky time but ill improve them someday soon i hope ; )
Haha shade.. just knew you would come back to the PDE
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1:37 Extraction SA
will go way below (1:31 --1:35 at least)
Messed up a 1:14.86 door (= 1:32) and a shitload of 1:15/16/17 doors
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SOS maian A 1.43
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1:35 Extraction SA
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SOS A - 1:48.
I got the good lift, but I choked. Got stuck on a guard and messed up opening one door.
( Oh well. 1:47 later I hope.
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Deep Sea A - 3:39
damn NTSC bull-sht.
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3:36 Escape SA
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oh, you're still playing this game ? hehe, anyways, did you get to see Chelly ? hmm.. :P
oh, hmm.. I got a new time back then, but I forgot it
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Villa A - 1:19
That was the easiest 40 points ever... or at least damn close.
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Villa SA - 1:41
Chicago A - :20
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1:54 (r@5|-| 5173 p@
1:27 /\/\r 8|_0|\||)35 r3\/3|\|93 p@
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Villa A - 1:18
Chicago A - :18
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Infiltration A - 1:18
Ext SA - 1:55
Ext PA - 2:10
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Extraction PA - 2:04
I wanted 1:58.
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Rescue A - 1.44
Rescue SA - 3.01
Rescue PA - something better than before..
i own
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2 new times.. Chicago Sa - 0.37, Extraction A 1.04..
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Infiltration PA 3:07.
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Villa AP 2.06
(not enough munitions to finish... )
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MBR SA - 1:43
MBR PA - 1:49
I had a 1:30ish run on Agent, but Cass got stuck in the last 2 doors (a guard was behind the door (the first one), and Cass was trying to go through it, but the guard stayed there, and the door didn't open and aaaarrgh). And then she stopped to talk... I've lost 8(!) seconds or so.
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I know how you feel. I estimated my 1:28 run carefully and I am sure it could have been a 1:24 without the screw up at the end. If I had skipped her speech earlier too, it may have been a 1:22-1:23. Unfortunately, I have never been able to recreate such a fantastic run.
I prefer not to think about it too hard anymore. Of course it must not have been to fantastic if something went wrong at the end. Let's just say that most of it was very smooth, and quite sweet.
Oh well, you should keep playing that level though. Are you NTSC or PAL? If NTSC go for 1:32/1:38/1:43. Those should come pretty damn easy if you're doing it right.
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Chicago SA - 0:36
Travis, I'm NTSC. Yeah, 1:32 doesn't seem hard, but it'll take a while until I get it. I suck at everything after Cass' room.
I can disarm her at :42, but I'm always screwing up my best runs.
I'm playing Extraction Agent now. I've already got three 53 fails, plus a 52 (
) fail. I'll try to get a 0:53 tomorrow.
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How did you know my name? Oh well, I'd prefer to be called by Travis, I'm just wondering how you got it? Links from my website?
Starting going up the first flight of stairs with Cass...
OK, let's see. Just push her a little up the stairs. A lot on Agent, but not a lot on PA or she might fall through for some gay reason. At the top, be sure to open the door for her then go quickly into the corner and when she gets up there, push her through. Run up a little so that cass will not get too far away from you and shoot the guard before he can do something gay like throw an N-bomb. Then push her a little, not too much, until you turn the corner on the ramp, and when she is about halfway up, run ahead of her and open the first door, and rush into the corner facing out. When she starts to go through the door then push her. The guard may or may not be in the way. If he is, just fire at him. Even if it's risky, because it's too costly when cass gets through and you're stuck on the gay guard for a second and she starts bitchin. Then push her a little again, and run ahead of her really quickly to get on the other side of the stairs. That way she won't run around them, but she will go up them (takes some luck/frustration out of it). Then push her a little, but be sure to ALWAYs stay behind her during this. Don't get her out of your sight or you'll probably be in her way. When you get to the last turn, just left strafe really fast up there. You might go past her, but sometimes you push her and it saves good time.
I haven't played this level in at least a month or 2, but I hope I could still be of help. That's the stuff after cass's room.
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Defection Agent - 0:14
MBR Agent - 1:32
MBR SA - 1:40
Thank you, Travis, your strat helped me a lot.
Cass stopped to talk once in my 1:32, but it's ok. Now, on to PA.
Oh, I know your name because of the Smackdown Rivalry. And because of the url in your sig (".../travisdevlieger").
Thanks again.
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I'm glad I could help.
I wasn't sure how much I could since I haven't played in a while. Just do me a favor and don't take any points away from me.
BTW, do you have AIM, YIM, or MSN? I wouldn't mind talking to you via IM sometime. Preferably AIM.
My AIM: Travistld
My YIM: Travistld
My MSN: KillerSim7@hotmail.com
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It's holidays for me now.
Investigation PA 4:01
Infiltration Agent 1:20
Air Base SA 2:06
Air Force One A 1:00
Crash Site PA 2:15
My PR was 4:24!!!
Pelagic II PA 3:30
Attack Ship Agent 2:38
Attack Ship SA 3:29
I hate Elvis
EDIT: I just played Crash Site SA and got 1:47
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Rescue Agent - 1:41
Ruins Agent - 1:23
Chicago Agent - 0:16
(Brazilian Record
)
Oh, I don't have AIM, nor YIM, Travis. You can contact me at icewave_rmt@zipmail.com.br, though (it's my e-mail
).
P.S.: Don't worry, I won't play MBR for now. I'm content with 1:32.
P.S. 2: Great times, Your Eliteness.
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Attack Ship A - 2:30.
I just have this to say. WTF? I played this level a while back and thought it was hard. I had 0 points. Then I go and get 2:30 within 5 minutes of playing. Damn. I even played a little more and had a failed 2:25. Somehow I managed to miss that first skedar that I'm supposed to shoot at the end. But.. heh.
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Defection Agent - 0:07
Defection SA - 0:48
Defense Agent - 0:56
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G5 Agent - 0:50
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G5 SA - 0:58
G5 PA - 1:28
Ruins SA - 1:58
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MBR Agent - 1:28
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Air Base PA 2:48
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Way to go on your MBR A. It actually isn't too hard once you know what you're doing is it?
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G5 Agent - 0:48
Thanks, Travis. Yeah, it's not that hard, after I learned how to play it. Thanks for the help.
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Investigation PA 3:31
I read shade's strat on page 3, thanks heaps.
EDIT: Make that 3:28. I just played it again. I reckon I could cut off another 5 seconds using that strat.
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MBR Agent - 1:26
J/k
Seriously now...
Villa Agent - 1:19
Villa PA - 2:18
(I got a failed 2:01, so I'm not content with this time, I'll improve it later)
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LOL^^
Chicago AS 0.32
IC AS 1.37
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Oooh, I was about to hurt you Dark Phoenix.
Anyway.
Def A - :16
I still can't land in the elevator, but I'm getting closer.
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Hehehe...
Villa SA - 1:45
Villa PA - 2:11
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Def SA - :50 (YAY points!)
This was gay. Should have been :48 but got shot into wall near the end. Could be a :46 with a faster beginning (which isn't too hard). Hmm, if this level doesn't piss me off too much to quickly I estimate :47 or so.
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Extraction AP 2.05
MBR AP 1.53
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Escape Agent - 2:38
I got it yesterday, but I didn't notice it was a PR. I thought my PR was 2:37. I went to play some PD now (mainly Escape), and then I noticed it. "Wtf? 2:38?"
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Pelagic II Agent - 0:59
(I got this twice)
Pelagic II SA - 2:16
(omg, I lost about 8 seconds in this run, and it's all my fault. Oh, I'm so stupid.)
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Def SA - :48
Chicago A - :17
Deep Sea PA - 4:19
SOS SA - 2:13
SOS PA - 2:25
Hmmm, I didn't work too hard on any of these. I did however work hard on a certain level with no results.
I won't say what level though. I'll get it later.
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5:54 Investigation PA
4:04 Extraction SA
0:36 Chicago SA
0:41 Chicago PA
1:11 G5 Building A
3:01 G5 Building SA
1:25 Air Base A
2:06 Air Base SA
1:47 Air Force One SA
2:03 Air Force One PA
1:48 Crash Site A
5:36 Pelagic II SA
5:48 Deep Sea A
7:22 Deep Sea PA
2:54 Attack Ship A
4:22 Attack Ship SA
1:53 MBR A
0:55 WAR! SA
1:07 WAR! PA
//Patrik Nilsson
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dataDyne Defection 2:17
Yeah, well... certainly isn't a great time, only 12 secs off of my previous 2:29, but it's my first full completion with the new glitch strategy, which was discovered around the time of my past retirement.
I don't think it's that bad for a first day's return.
I didn't speech skip (due to lack of timing, mainly), fell off the door upon my second arrival at the helipad, and waited about 15 seconds for the programmer to arrive.
In conclusion: bad, bad run.
Oh... and I used control setting 1.2
. Really easy to learn since I haven't played in so long.
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Good to see you back in action Darklight, you rock !
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Investigation A - 1:32
This was gay. It was a :50 (exactly) bot so I should have managed a 1:31 with it.
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Defection SA 0:45
Investigation A 1:32
CI SA 1:36
Earlier in this topic, someone was saying something about CI PA. They said you shouldn't start the uplink until Carrington says 'his line'.
Which line is that?
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cool, new light to pd!
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to YourEliteness: "They got access to my files, go there before them and destroy them"
Something similar to that, I dont remember the exact words
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1:00 Air Force One A
1:36 Air Force One SA
1:55 Air Force One PA
1:31 Crash Site A
1:50 Crash Site SA
3:15 Deep Sea A
1:03 CI A
2:28 MBR SA
2:26 MBR PA
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My first PR in like 7 months.
Ci sa 1:35 could be a lot better but seeing as it is my first PR in 7 months I am not too surprised. Took like 15 minutes.
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Shade: He says "Damn it, my office... If they get access..." and "Get there first, Jo, and destroy the files!"
Which one?
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Go after files. You know the place you can't go past i assume? the little arch just before the ship area.
-Matt
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some new times:
Villa PA 2.10
g5 Pa 1.25
g5 SA 1.08
Crash site A 1.31
Attack ship PA 5.10
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Escape Agent 2:39
Trac3r: That link in you sig can be fixed by typing [link=www.geocities.com/trac3r88/pdtimes.html]My PD times[/link]
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Matt: On my first CI PA run, I stopped at the arch, and got to the ship. I was killed while uploading.
My 2nd run, I stopped at the arch, uploaded, and didn't have any RC-P120 ammo left. Result = death.
My 3rd run, I ran out of ammo as well, but finished the level. My time was 2:20 (my PR is 2:14).
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That level is gay. Also, what determines whether the Devastator appears?
EDIT: Nevermind about the stuff I put between the *'s
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If the hostages in the firing range are still alive at that time, so you can't do nothing else but hope.
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OK then, thanks.
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4:19 Deep Sea SA.
3:37 Deep Sea PA
1:44:30 Overall Total Time
5th
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First post ever!!!
dataDyne Defection 0.12
Attack Ship 2.43
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Duel PA - 0:11
Pelagic II SA - 2:07
Villa Agent - 1:16
Infiltration Agent - 1:16
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Hey thats Your Eliteness
have been meaning to get that fixed..
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Rescue Agent - 1:37
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Deep Sea PA 4:04
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Escape SA - 4.34
yay i am in top 100 in time
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3:57 ci PA
Finally, after trying for hours...
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Infiltration PA 3:02
My target was 3:00
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AF1 PA - 2.02
will be improved by the end of the day.
Escape SA - 4.34 :/
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5:18 Defection PA
3:46 Investigation SA
1:06 G5 Building A
1:27 G5 Building SA
2:06 G5 Building PA
4:58 Infiltration SA
1:33 Air Force One SA
3:00 Deep Sea A
1:00 CI A
0:54 WAR! SA
0:07 Duel SA
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WAR! SA 0:53
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Villa PA 2:09
Kingpins strat is not only faster than SamSim's, it is easier. lol. I had a 1:51 run once but got killed in the basement.
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Villa SA - 1.41
Escape SA - 4.13
AF1 PA - 1.56
AF1 SA - 1.35
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Extraction PA 2:05
Infiltration SA 1:59
Both those times were 2:15. I played Extraction first, got 2:05. I played Infiltration then, and got 2:05 as well. So I played Infiltration some more and got 1:59.
Question: Does the technician thing (Infil) work on SA in PAL? (Paragon's strat)
EDIT: Air Force One SA 1:29
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Holy.... I just went from 2:22 Investigation SA to 2:16. Not bad for my 2nd attempt.
EDIT: OMG. I just got 2:15. But now I'm going to bed because it's 2:30 AM and I'm shaking like a leaf because of the cold.
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Villa PA 1:56
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WAR! A 0:28
WAR! PA 1:12 :/
Institute SA 1:37
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Investigation SA 2:15 again (taped this time)
Villa SA 1:38
Villa PA 1:49
Deep Sea SA 3:53 PAL
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I'm tired and have a few quick and crappy PRs to add.
Rescue A - 1:47
Rescue SA - 3:02
AF1 SA - 1:32
AF1 PA - 1:42
I also played MBR A. I got 1:31 on my first run.
Of course my time is 1:28. Target: 1:27.
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Chicago A 0:17
Chicago PA 0:36
Ruins PA 2:59
Air Base PA 3:09
-Denis, from Brazil
My GE times
My PD times
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Rescue A 1:43
Rescue SA 2:51
Rescue PA 3:26
EDIT: Hey, dataDyne, how'd you like to join our rivalry? It appears you have some skill. Reply here and/or post in the Rivalry topic if you're interested.
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Defense SA - 1:35
Yep, dataDyne is a skilled player. Join our rivalry, Dyne, it would be cool.
Btw, great Invest SA time, Your Eliteness.
How long did it take you?
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Ok, You eliteness, I want to join
-Denis, from Brazil
My GE times
My PD times
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Rescue A - 1:40 (edit: Make that 1:36)
Rescue SA - 2:45
Rescue PA - 3:46 (took my time to make sure I made it. )
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Extraction SA - 1:51
Extraction PA - 1:58
With that times I reach 2:17 in overall
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
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War SA 0:54
War PA 1:05
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Rescue SA = 2:43
dataDyne, damn you for beating my Ext PA time! Graaah!
Now I have that level to play some more too.
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Yeah! Finally I get under 2min on that stupid level
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
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One minor improvement as well a long-time goal of mine (right on the dot, too)
Defection PA- 2:04
Investigation PA- 2:59.73
Defection... Evil. I speech skipped all of his talking, but had to wait a lengthy amount of time for him to arrive at the terminal. I missed tossing the 2nd ECM mine, and had to waste a few seconds tossing another. Then, I had an odd difficulty of glitching through the wall (don't ask) depriving me of 4 or 5 more seconds.
As for Investigation, it took me around 6 hours to get, with mediocre play the past week. I worked my way down on this level, passing the lasers 7 times total, 3 with bad health and dying at the uplink, and another after the shield tech. The other three I completed first with 3:16 (Very careful... my time with the older strat was 3:18 to give an idea of all the precautions I took), then 3:05, and finally 2:59.73. Ah, and I only got hit once in the drone gun room of death.
Sub-2:50 won't be too difficult for Investigation, but until I try again, breaking 2 minutes on Infiltration PA is my next goal.
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0:52 Extraction A
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Research SA 2:28
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
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Crash Site A - 1:31
Crash Site SA - 1:42
Hmm, nice to see some of the higher players getting some PRs. Go Darklight and Dman!
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Yay, get 1:50 infil PA, Darklight!
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1:27 Crash site Agent.
Hmm, I am playing CS PA. I had a 2:20 run and 3 shots in my LX. Missed all 3.
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Extraction A - 0:59
Ruins PA - 2:25
Villa PA - 3:21
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Crash site PA - 2:38
My crappiest run, but at least I completed.
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2.46 Rescue SA
1.36 Villa SA
AF1 Sa 1.33 - PA 1.50
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1 new time
Crash Site PA 2.34
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Attack Ship PA 3:55
After many great runs of Elvis commiting suicide (at least 6 runs in a row), he finally survived, and I'm left with 3:55.
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Villa SA 1:39
Investigation SA 2:24
Chicago A 0:16
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
The Brazilian Elite
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Meh... Defection PA 1:58
Took around 50 minutes- just thought I'd tackle the waves before the storm. Pretty much identical to my previous run, but without the ending errors.
I can improve this only if I get the programmer to arrive faster. On average, I tend to reach the terminal at 1:10, and have to wait until 1:30 for him to *open* the door to the room. Sometimes he arrives at 1:45, or doesn't even go onto the elevator at all. That and landing on the computer on the bottom floor are my only difficulties. Speech skipping isn't much of a problem anymore, thankfully. As of now, I'm reasonably content with this time. (Sub-2 = good enough)
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Nice Job there DarkLight.
Just wanted to inform you that you're actually part of a rivalry, if ever you wanna check that out and stuff here's the link.
www.angelfire.com/darksid.../elite.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/shade2/elite.htm)
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Can i join? I have...some records.
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I think it's a NTSC only rivalry.
Maybe............
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Attack Ship A 2:35
Attack Ship SA 3:11
I figured out why Elvis keeps dying. He takes his own route. Now I know it
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Deep Sea PA - 4.35
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Matt, if you have a NTSC Time page only I'll add you. If not, you would have Deep Sea because of gayness so I dont want that.
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Deep Sea PA - 3:55
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Deep Sea A - 3:26
Deep Sea SA - 4:50
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Defense Agent - 0:55
Defense SA - 1:34
HELP - ATTACK SHIP
Elvis NEVER completes obj. 2, what am I doing wrong? I could easily get a 2:23 if it wasn't for him. Help me, please.
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There's nothing you can do on Attack Ship. Go FAST and hope he completes. Don't do anything.
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Chicago SA - :35 (now :34)
Chicago PA - :39 (now :37)
These are first completions after figuring out my problem. On PA I forgot to switch to the tracer bug and it wasted like 3 seconds.
::goes back to game::
Hmm, I won't stop until I get :16/:32/:34. Or at least I will try pretty hard.
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Elvis takes his own route through the ship. The following is for Agent....
After going up the lift from the hangar, open the door and kill the two Skedar. Elvis will go to the right (because of the shield), so go right and clear that path.
Before going into the Navigational Room, continue through the next door and shoot the Skedar up on the ramp (Elvis goes this way). Then turn around and go back into the Nav Room. Kill some Skedar, then go out the other door and up the ramp.
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Defense A - 56
It was 55.98 but it rounded up.
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rescue AS 2.33
on IC I have done 55.85 but it rounded to 56
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Defense A - :55 (55.32)
This level is so easy. I never knew. :54 probably wouldn't even be that hard.
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Ok, for someone who has :54 or :53 for Defense A. If you can help. Would it be faster in the end if I waited longer in the cinema, and then hoped not to get back boosted? Or even better, hope to even get boosted. I think it's possible to get into the elevator almost a second earlier if you do that and get lucky. I noticed in a :53 vid that the person did indeed get back boosted, but I sometimes don't. On one run I waited like normal, didn't get back boosted, AND got boosted when past the skedar. It didn't help my run at all since I had to wait for the elevator to close though. Hmm. Just rambling on since I can't play. Feel free to comment.
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its the same as SA, the level wont finish faster. The bomb will still have to explode even tho you're in the final room faster
Just start at "they should keep you away from mirrors" and do a good run. As for TTs I would have to recheck stuff out
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Ok. This is pissing me off. I played Attack Ship for an hour, I've tried everything. EVERYTHING. BUT ELVIS NEVER, I MEAN NEVER COMPLETES OBJ.2!
I had a great run, 1st lift closed at 0:45, locked/unlocked door at 1:20, but he NEVER completes. I need some serious help here. Shade, please, HELP ME!
Thanks, Ryan, but it didn't work.
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I guess Dman would know a bit more about that since he the only NTSC player to have ever completed the new Attack Ship strat. I tried over 3hours on AS and never completed. It's definitely pissing me off, and NO its not because I'm too slow.
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Did you tried karl's strat?
for me it works perfectly,but i heard that it's a pain for ntsc...
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Villa A 1:18
Villa SA 1:34
Villa PA 2:42
G5 A 0:53
G5 SA 1:05
G5 PA 1:25
Ruins SA 2:01
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
The Brazilian Elite
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Yes, I've tried Karl's strat, I've seen Karl's 2:14 vid, I've read strats, I've tried EVERYTHING!!! I'm not slow, my TTs are good, imo, but I can't complete it. Attack Ship is my worst Agent level, I'm 19 seconds away from the WR!
It seems this strat is a lot easier for PAL players...
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Defense A..
Ok, I have a problem now that pissed me the @#%$ off. I got to the ship fast enough for about a 54.5 or so (based on TTs for a :53 run assuming that it was 53.9).
The problem: The uplink did not start working for 2-3 seconds even though I was pressing Z. What happened?
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there's some places on the ship that you cannot connect, your best shot would be to always connect to the back of the bomb, it always work.
On a side note, I played my worst levels and managed to PR very nicely. Vinze way to pass over the cliff in Ruins is really great
works perfectly
1:33 Ruins SA
1:45 Ruins PA
I continued my session with P2 PA:
2:19 P2 PA
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me again? wth
1:24 Villa SA
1:43:59 Overall Total Time
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Duel SA 0:06
Ruins A 1:27
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
The Brazilian Elite
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I wasn't ever able to pull off jumping the cliffs on SA/PA... I hate how you can't use the Devastator.
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Defense SA - 1:35
You can jump the cliffs? Would someone explain how? I got a crappy 2:02 for PA without jumping them. If I knew how and could do it I might go for 1:52.
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1:18 Villa A
next target 1:14-1:15
//Patrik
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MBR AS 1.40
MBR AP 1.51
Rescue AS 2.32
Rescue AP 3.40
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Shade, I'll improve my deep sea SA/A ntsc times from 5:11 and .... 3:30 or so and whack em on a page
I'll also get an ntsc maian A time. All others are okay?
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hmm I don't really remember, but I'll try and help:
2 possible ways:
Start at the beginning, and call back the lift after killing the skedar and switching to mauler
Or no, rather start so that the lift is there and you close it on your own, the faster, the better, then do the rest normally. Be sure Elvis doesn't talk to you when you're going to the lift. That way, he'll run faster towards you to talk to you and he'll complete more often. I don't think A was really a problem for Elvis to complete for me. But again, if you want the lift to be there at the end, you need to use Karl's strat...
I'm not really sure. I think it was for SA, that his strat didn't work (Elvis completed 1 in 20 I think or even less) and I started after one of Cass's line when she said something like (got for company) after one of these 3 words. You can get like 2:43 that way on a good run.
But for Agent, I guess the only usefull thing I can say is don't let him talk to you after you've killed the skedars in the hangar. Strafe in the back right side of the lift, don't look outside, I think Karl did that in his vid, and it helped.
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Oh and could you explain in detail, (if there is much to be said about it) how to do Vinze's way to jump the cliff ?
I'm getting close to 0:51 Extraction A. I had some 39.7 doors, and a lot of 40.1/40.3 doors. I once had an insane beginning (objective one disappeared at 15.5) and 16.0 can give you a 39.7 door on a normal run. I'm having trouble switching to the cmp as I'm 1.2 so I try different things. Like pausing at the top, which wastes some time, pressing A twice before turning in the stairs, which wastes a little less, or before the door, but it doesn't get out quick enough 50% of the time. So I guess I'll use the Falcon 2 for the bodyguards, doesn't waste any time, but it's a little harder.
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Yeah, I changed to CMP winding up the next set of stairs before reaching the door that stops the timer. That seems to be the only reasonable way to do it with 1.2.
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Defense PA -
2:07
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Ruins A - 1:25
Defense PA - 2:18
Duel PA - 0:11
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
The Brazilian Elite
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Ruins A 1:20
Deep A 3:35
Crash A 1:30
-Denis, a brazilian player
My GE times
My PD times
The Brazilian Elite
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Villa Agent - 1:15
Villa PA - 2:09
Extraction Agent - 0:53(.23) (OMG, I'm stupid. It was CLEARLY a 52 run)
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Pelagic II PA - 3:06
I tried to go fast and then go past everyone and live, but I just decided to f.uck that. I actually had it once and would have gotten about 2:35. (I had the x-ray scanner thing on to open the last door when I got killed). Conclusion: I hate this level. At least I cut 30 seconds off.
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Pelagic II SA - 2:18
PII A - 1:05 (hey, at least it's an improvement)
btw, I still hate this level.
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War AP 1.02
(slow begining, but very fast ending!)
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Ruins SA - 1:52
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Extraction PA - 2:09
Villa SA - 1:38
Crash Site SA - 1:41
(plus a failed 1:37
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Ruins SA - 1:56
Ruins PA - 2:06
(66 points!)
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Ruins A 1:21
Ok, I really am on break now. Last sucky time for a while.
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Escape SA - 4:08
Escape PA - 4:03
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Quote:
Ok, I really am on break now. Last sucky time for a while.
I'll never believe you again.
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I thought I was on break, but I just picked up the controller and those times came from nowhere.
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Still playing ext. A, got a 39.41 door
and messed it up. I'm getting more consistent in the beginning, 0:51 should pop-up soon enough, depends on how much time I have to play. I put 2 hours at most to get 0:52, even though it's been a week or so that I started to play the level. I just don't have time to play a lot.
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Escape Agent - 2:37
Ruins Agent - 1:20
Extraction PA - 1:57
DMan, what's the fastest ending possible on Extraction Agent? I can get a 40.8X door, I think I'm losing time at the end.
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Damn you Dark Slayer! If I weren't at college right now I'd be playing Escape/Air Base/AF1 and getting major points.
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Dman prolly has no idea how good is 39.4 (thats near my best too)
That could have gotten you 49
. haha
10.7 is one insane ending. 11.4 is normal
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Interesting. I have gotten some late 40.xx doors as well, but those are few and far between. Evidently I did not fare so well when I did have them. I just tried yesterday a few runs and got like 45 at the door.
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Oh, my God... as Shade would say... SAWEEEEET!!!
Extraction Agent - 0:52.28 !!!
40.26 door, 12.02 ending (Shade, 11.6X is insane, how dare you say it's a "normal ending"?
), I lost a bit of time in the last 2 doors (the Rocket explosion confused me), when I saw 51.XX near the last turn, I was like "OMG, I will get 51!", but it was a 52. I'm very, very happy with this time.
*going for 51*
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Escape A - 2:44
Escape SA - 3:54
Escape PA - 4:00
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come on killersim join the fun, go to the a new kind of rivalry topic and join it!!!
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I've been part of the GE elite for the past few months now, and I'm just now getting around to playing PD. I'm not gonna officially join until I get a complete times page. Right now my only respectable times (ie worth pts) are these three...
Duel A - 0:03 (easy)
Duel SA - 0:07
(haven't really tried for 6)
Investigation A - 1:34
I have a lot of catching up to do on strats.
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Escape A - 2:38
Escape SA - 3:47
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Escape PA 4:14
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Defection AP 1.44
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Attack Ship Perfect Agent help...........
I've been playing it a little bit. Here are my best TTs so far. All on completely different runs mind you.
First lift starts to go up: 1:21
Arrive at locked door: 2:35
Arrive at Bridge: 3:01
I want to get under 4:00 on this level. What are some TTs for doing that, and based on my TTs, what do you think I'll get if Elvis decides not to be non-heterosexual and live?
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Escape PA 3:52
Another level under 4 minutes, 1 left to go. And now I'm 6 seconds away from the NTSC disadvantage mark.
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Ruins PA 2:14
Crash SA 1:52
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Escape SA 3:50
This makes my total time 1:58:39, which means I have passed the NTSC disadvantage mark.
Ngamer, please bold me in the 2 hour club. Thank you.
Heh, bet that got his attention.
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Deep Sea PA 4:28
1 second off my PR.
EDIT: Deep Sea 4:22
I have two words for this level. One of them I won't say on a public message board. The other word is "you."
Elvis is so gay. He shot Dr Carrol while trying to kill the Blonde's. Dr Carrol dies, mission failed.
Speaking of failing missions... I was playing Escape Agent, I ran to the last console and it blew up in my face. It was so unexpected.
EDIT 2: Deep Sea PA 4:20. If I didn't know better, I'd think 4:00 is maxed.
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Pelagic II Agent - 0:58
MBR SA - 1:36
(1:34 run, Cass stopped to talk once)
Maian SOS Agent - 1:50 (NTSC)
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Attack Ship SA - 3:04
Attack Ship PA - 4:06
LMAO @ YourEliteness and Deep Sea.
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MBR PA - 1:43
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Investigation PA - 3:46 (barely made it. Still don't know how to get past those drone guns right)
Escape PA - 3:53
(don't ask)
Attack Ship PA - 3:57
Oh, and btw... I now have every single PA time under 4 minutes.
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Deep Sea PA 4:00
Damn that level sucks. I am now able to join the 4 minute club.
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Damn, every new player comes and beats my Escape PA time, it must mean it really sucks. I'll have to play that level I guess.
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Heh, they're all beating it because they want to get in the 4 min club and anway, it just plain sucks.
I almost had a 3:04 Elvis (convo starts). It was so close, but a guard came out of that little cubby hole and Jon was fighting him and I didn't know. I ended up shooting both Elvis and Jon in the head. I could have gotten the WR (With Shade still gone of course).
I know almost's don't count, but damn, I'm gonna go play that level some more and hope for another chance.
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Hey Dman, beat this. Escape PA - 3:46.
And of course I may be faster by the time you beat that even.
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Investigation Agent - 1:32
(FIRST TRY!!! I was just warming up, then the 51 bot came
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Escape Agent - 2:36
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Thanks for getting that Escape A time. I will be forced to beat that now, and get even more points.
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I can get 2:33 or better. I got this with a 0:58 Jon, but Elvis ran in circles and screwed up the run.
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Escape SA - 3:57
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deep sea A 2.41
Deep sea AS 3.18
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War SA - :51
War PA - 1:03 (OMFG it was hilarious how I killed the last king. Kind of anyway. It kept me from a faster time, but it was funny as hell.)
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3:51 Escape PA
Normal run, did it slow at the end to not mess it up. Still worth good points (7).
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At least you took another point from Karl. Way to go.
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I archived these times on this week:
Crash A 1:28
Crash SA 1:45
Crash PA 2:39
Attack A 2:39
Attack SA 3:22
Attack PA 4:13
Extraction A 0:57
WAR! PA 1:03
Pellagic A 1:12
Pellagic PA 3:19
MBR PA 1:51
Maian A 1:54
Infil A 1:19
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Chicago A - :16
First completion tonight. (with "semi-newer" controller). I turn amazingly fast compared to my old one. I know this must have been killing my strafing. I'm inspired to play more!
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Attack Ship A 2:32
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Chicago SA - :31
Chicago PA - :33
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Escape Agent - 2:35
G5 PA - 1:18
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Rescue SA - 2:33
Shade said my time sucked and I cried then I went and played it a little. It still sucks. I can get 2:27 but I probably never will. lol
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Attack Ship A 2:27
Edit: AS A 2:24, SA 3:09
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Skedar Ruins A 1:14
Skedar Ruins SA 1:31
Skedar Ruins PA 1:44
Got'em a while ago , too lazy to post'em.1:31 is gay , &:27 is perfectly possible for anyone who put the effort on it.Yay.
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G5 PA 1:18
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Crash PA 2:35
Deep Sea SA 5:04
Pellagic SA 2:28
Escape A 2:50
Escape PA 4:45
Attack Ship SA 3:17
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Villa A 1:16
Escape SA 4:14
G5 PA 1:18
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What the hell is up with everyone and G5 PA? That is my next time damnit. I had the record and 3 people beat it in the same day all getting the same time.
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Nope, I got it yesterday.
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I got 1:18.07
It easy to do that time, I will run to 1:15 or less.
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Attack Ship PA 3:41
Nice run, Elvis did his objective and decided to live.
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first post in here in awhile.
p2 pa 2:44
1 second, 0 point improvement.
Not much, but it's a start. I definitely need a new controller.
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Defection PA - 2:12
Good run, I want a sub-2:00 though.
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Attack Ship A - 2:35
Defection PA - 3:05
Extraction SA - 1:45
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G5 AS 1.02
IC AP 2.08
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Rescue SA - 2:41
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Defection A - :14
Defection PA - 2:38 (I can't land right in the basement, so I killed everyone down there on this run so I'd live)
Extraction PA - 2:02
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Rescue A - 1:37
Rescue SA - 2:40
Infil SA - 2:14
Extraction SA - 1:41
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dusted the ol' cart off today
CI SA 1:34
this was after 25 minutes after not playing for 8 months, who knows how i rememebered how to strafe. i smell a PD charge thsi summer.
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So do I, well maybe after breaking 1:20:00.
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haha
yeah... um, ME TOO! that's my plan too! you said it bryan!
don't ask me why, but i also noticed that our combined post totals for the last two posts add up to 2000. 2
0!
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Rescue SA - 2:39
Attack Ship Agent - 2:29
(slow strat, slowest Skedar finish I've ever seen, but Elvis completed obj.2!!! Weeee!!!
I'll improve it later, I want a 2:24 at least)
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@ the 2000 combined post total thing...
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I should challenge Bryan:
first of us to:
for me- reach 1:17:59
for Bryan- reach 1:19:59
Everyone can bet! On me!
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Quit talkin GE over here.
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Good Eh..?
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Rescue SA - 2:38
Rescue PA - 3:50
G5 A - 0:52
Escape A - 2:46
Pellagic SA - 2:26
Investigation SA - 2:21
Investigation PA - 4:15
Chicago PA - 0:35
Infil SA - 2:04
Extraction PA - 1:54
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G5 A - 0:50
G5 SA - 1:02
G5 PA - 1:14
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Attack Ship SA - 3:09
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Infil A - 1:18
Pelagic A - 1:05
Pelagic SA - 2:15
Villa PA - 2:20
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Defense SA - 1:33
(second try, 2nd lift shut at 56.8
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Maian SA - 2:20
Arg! I need take the last lift open!
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Attack Ship PA 3:33
Ahh, relaxation time. NOT! I'm going to get the WR on this level!!!
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Escape Agent 2:35
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Don't take this the wrong way ("as if you wouldn't believe me") but you'll need to provide proof of any attack ship WR... probably even that 333. You can send a tape to me any time you like.
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Yeah, I have that on tape, as well as Investigation SA 2:15. I will also put some scrolling proof on it. I was talking to Karl earlier today and he said I could give it to him. But if you want it then I have no objections.
BTW, get on AIM.
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Infil PA - 4:31
Air Base PA - 3:05
Maian PA - 2:49
Defection SA - 0:47
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Air Base A - 1:32
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Ruins SA - 1:42
G5 SA - 0:55
Escape A - 2:45
Escape PA - 4:30
Villa PA - 2:16
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Maian SOS Agent 1:42
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Maian SOS SA 2:09
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Maian SOS PA 2:25 (PAL)
That makes me second for SOS PA on the PAL rankings.
EDIT: Damn typo. I wrote 2:23 instead of 2:25.
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Villa PA - 2:08
Rescue SA - 2:34
Blonde SA - 1:41
Air Base PA - 2:30
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MBR A - 1:27
MBR PA - 1:37
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Deep Sea A - 3:30
Infil PA - 3:47
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Deep Sea SA - 4:49
Deep Sea PA - 4:17
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Air Force One Agent - 0:56.60!!!
Untied Brazilian Record!!!
Suck it, Vitor.
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Holy Toledo!
Not bad at all.
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Thanks, Tyler.
Air Base Agent - 1:19
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MBR SA - 1:31
MBR PA - 1:35
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holy crap. i wish i could play PD, so i'd get 55.. anyway, gj Phoenix. hope u got it taped.
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MBR PA - 1:34
Hey Vitor, if I were in the Brazilian elite (which I can't be, obviously) and took out all your MBR records, would you try to get them back?
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you wouldnt get 55 Greg
1:22 Crash Site A
2:00 Crash Site PA
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MBR A - 1:26
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"you wouldnt get 55 Greg"
true
my MBR are gay, killersim.. so yeah, if u were brazilian, i'd beat'em all
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You'd have to get some WR's then cuz I just got the SA WR.
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Rescue A - 1:35
Rescue SA - 2:33
Pelagic A - 1:02
Escape SA - 4:09
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Escape A - 2:44
Defense A - 0:56
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Closed.