The Elite Forum
The Big Three Plus One => Perfect Dark => Topic started by: Dark0Perfection on May 01, 2003, 07:55:00 pm
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Well, i havent posted here in a while but ive been reading the forums lately. i was just wondering if any of you guys that are/aren't playing would like to set up a new kind of rivalry. a cheaters rivalry where you can use any cheats in the game. i could probly set up the page and auto-updater because i have one from a while ago. reply quickly and if enough people want it ill get it going!
if you would like to join please post your info:
PD name eg. "Sim Threat"
2 digit initials
real name(first and last)
color code eg. "#ee22aa"
geocities site with your cheat times on it
e-mail address
NTSC or PAL
reply quick, this is fun!!!
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This could be fun.... But there might be some proof issues. I know I won't be taping every run I do in Slo-Mo.
What if we have a time, say, Defection Agent 0:06 (no cheats), are we able to add that to our page? (Even though we didn't use cheats)
Don't add me...... yet.
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pub20.ezboard.com/fperfectdarkelitefrm13 (http://pub20.ezboard.com/fperfectdarkelitefrm13)
...n00bs
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nobody ever checks that anymore
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expert, that was retarded, its a dead forum... why would i post there, no one would respond. think before you post.
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oh, and your eliteness, you can use all your current times without cheats too.
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Add me, please.
Your Eliteness
YE
Ryan Dwyer
yellow
www.geocities.com/ryandwy...times.html (http://www.geocities.com/ryandwyer2000/mycheattimes.html)
osamabinryan@hotmail.com
PAL
Also, don't forget to post a link to where this page is.
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your added, ill post the page in a minute
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the page is www.angelfire.com/falcon/.../elite.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/davidfourn/elite.htm)
OFFICIAL RULES
- For any levels that aren't complete add 1:00 to the current non-cheating World Record.
- Any and all cheats obtained in Perfect Dark are legally usable.
- The use of any extra device such as gameshark, game genie, etc. are prohibited.
- Editing times in any way is prohibited.
- No hoarding for days at a time.
- Try to post your times on the forum when obtained.
- Have fun cheating!!!
post if you have any other rules.
come on guys this is fun. we actually BEAT WRs. give it a try, with enough people this can be one of the most exciting rivalries. anyone can join so START POSTING!!!
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one more thing... even though my times on The Duel are 3/2/2 it wont register with the auto-updater for that so just put in 3/6/9
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www.geocities.com/pdslow/ (http://www.geocities.com/pdslow/)
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why did you post that? to show that my cheat times suck? i know, i havent played long and i certainly dont have the knowledge of PD as some of those players have. now could you quit posting pointless things? the cheaters league is dead, im just trying to set one up again. now will you please just go away?
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I'll join. I might not play the cheats too much, but I bet even some of my current times will get nice records.
KillerSim7
KS
Travis Devlieger
#6699ff
www.geocities.com/travisdevlieger/cheattimes.html
KillerSim7@hotmail.com
NTSC
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I might play to relax a little since I doubt this could stress me out too much.
But of course, I do think that the real rivalry I'm in is one of the most exciting ever, but I can enjoy this too. I guess you gave up since I owned you on Enemy Rockets eh?
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Do you plan on playing for a while in this rivalry? Cause I'll be more than happy to open the other forum (of the dead
) so all the posts could go there.
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great, it's should be fun!
I would join!
i just have to create a new page, and i'll post the links next.
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this is great, more members!
and killersim, i kinda got bored of enemy rockets, if you remember, it was just us lol
and expert, i think it will be better if we just stay here, its a more actively used forum
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I did play a little bit last night and got 2 PRs. The only one I can remember though is Pelagic II PA - 2:01, but I haven't updated my page yet cuz I gotta go.
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Also, I just got PII SA - 1:46.
It seems like you played every level Dark0. The luck levels are insane in slo-mo.
Also, even with all cheats, I couldn't beat some of my current times.
I better not put too much time into this. Maybe like 1 level per 50 points I gain in the real elite. I want to get into the top 40 this month. Unless something happens where I'm too busy to play.
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hey blazebebe have u made a page yet?
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ive only played each level a few times, now i will start playing more.
pelagic II SA: 1:46
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pelagic II PA 1:59
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air base SA 1:44
rivalry total is now 1:39:59
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no yet.
but i have already beginning to play with cheats
Infiltration A 1.14
SOS Maian A 1.37
Villa A 1.10
G5 A 0.48
Villa AP 1.29
Extraction Ap 1.31
Investigation AP 2.43
G5 AP 059
Deep Sea Ap 3.13
P2 AP 2.01
AS AP 3.32
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DSC = Disombobulator
lol, edit
EXG = ExperGamer64
edit, lol
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blazebebe those times are pretty good, set up a page and ill get you up there!
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PDO = PefectlyDarkOne
Missed that one Wouter
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yeah it was bugging me awell, then I checked and checked and I got all confused and just forgot about it
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a friend must create one for me.
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i will make a geocites account for you. if i make it and tell you the password you can put the times in right?
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and if for some reason you cant put the times in, just post them here. i already have you up in the rivalry with the times you posted. post all of them and i can update you.
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i put the WR on the page to see how close we are. just tell me if you want me to take it off.
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Quote:
you want me
I just thought it would be funny to quote that.
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or rather more disgusting humor..
Quote:
tell me if you want me to take it off
no we don't
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did you hit your head on a dildo when you were little?
btw wouter, you said you would start playing pd again, wanna join this with us?
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I don't see the connection.
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i meant that you think of sexually oriented things for no reason.
AND DO YOU WANT TO JOIN US IN THIS RIVALRY?!?!?
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air base A 1:14
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48 Ext A
1:05 Villa A
1:09 Villa SA
1:21 Villa PA
0:53 G5 PA
1:11 Infil A
1:13 Air Base A
1:42 Air Base SA
2:09 Air Base PA
0:55 AF1 A
0:47 P2 A
1:41 P2 SA
1:55 P2 PA
From Memory... just thought I would post those
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nice times shade, now would you like to join or was that purely for the sake of making us feel bad?
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mostly for the sake of making you feel bad.
But if you can be bothered to make me a page I'll do the other levels and post my times. Im just too lazy to make one myself
Edit: What a lost of my 500th post...
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just go to geocities, it takes 2 minutes
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Add me then
Shade
SH
Jean-Francois Dubreuil
D14311
www.geocities.com/shadedark/cheatingisgay.html
shadejf666@hotmail.com
NTSC
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ur in
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hum indeed but not with the times that are on the page I just created. Plz check your stuff correctly
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It's because you have 3/3/3 for Duel. The updater only accepts 3/6/9 or @#%$ gets ucked.
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well yeah you should just get the code out which does that.
they should have made the program to just ignore people with times under 3/6/9 anyway, not to make the updater get a screw then.
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Nooo Shade
,I will lose all my RR
welcome shade
I have got my page , you can add me:
Blazebebe
BZ
Francois Remy
#66FFFF
www.chez.com/massartfmc/p...echeat.htm (http://www.chez.com/massartfmc/perfect_dark/blazecheat.htm)
Blazebebe@hotmail.com
PAL
thx
edit: arf... what's the problem with my page?
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everything is fixed now, damn shade!!! dont worry, im gonna play sson, i got those thimes a while ago, mark my words shade im gonna kick your ass
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LOL^^ all the RR that I have on the elite are my real time except defection A
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Fix the Duel Thingy. My times are 3/3/3 I dont want a 40mins disadvantage cuz it thinks I have N/A.
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i cant fix it, not my updater, i dont know how to compile the files properly. my duel times are 3/2/2
but i put 3/6/9 because theres nothing i can do, just deal with it.
just put ur times to 3/6/9
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air base A 1:13
air base SA 1:39
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Did I miss the update?
1:18 Extraction SA
1:24 Extraction PA
0:22 Chicago SA
0:22 Chicago PA
1:12 Air Base A
2:06 Air Base PA
1:35 SOS A
1:35 SOS SA
1:36 SOS PA
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i update all the time
damnit shade your makin me work here!
how long did those take?(how many runs each)
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one each.
1:41 Air Base SA. Mind telling me how you did 1:39? Cuz with the Normal strat (WR strat normal way) this is maxed.
Are you able to get screenshot online?
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nice strat change...I'll try it out right away.
0:38 G5 A
0:42 G5 SA
1:35 SOS PA
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1:39 Air Base SA, when I did 1:41 I forgot that I could actually broke that glass like on A...dumb me...lol
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air base A 1:12
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dumb u lol...see? isnt cheating fun
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let my Air Base stuff alone
0:21 Chicago SA
0:21 Chicago PA
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let my chicago stuff alone
2:06 Air Base PA
POST THE STRAT NOW!!!
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For Chicago? If you got 22 you can do 21, I didnt change anything. I just did it faster 21.7x decimals on both runs.
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I'm requesting to be removed from this rivalry. Cheating just isn't my thing. I barely have enough time for normal Solo Missions
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Villa PA - 1:21
Villa A -1:07 (Damn you're fast Shade)
Villa SA - 1:10
And don't worry Dark0, I'll play a little. lol
Deep Sea PA - 3:11. I thought I didn't blow up that one thing. Wasted GOD knows how much time.
BTW, .. Luck levels fuckin blow in slo-mo.
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leave my record alone KillerSim
1:20 Villa PA
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Pwease Shade... Let me have just one. :'(
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no.
1:36 Infil SA
1:48 Infil PA
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Rescue SA - 2:24
Rescue PA - 2:52
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3:32 Escape PA... Elvis and Jon screwed my ending...but anyway
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nice shade ur @#%$ good, ill play in a few minutes, i just got home
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chicago A 0:21
chicago SA 0:21
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air base PA 1:58
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villa A 1:06 god damnit shade lol im like .000000001 away from 1:05 but i always i at least one MINOR mistake
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add me
www.geocities.com/genisics/cheatz.htm
my friend left his n64 over here so i can play until he decides to pick it up
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Genisics
69... or GE
Adam Archbold
lime!! anything will do
www.geocities.com/genisics/cheatz.htm (http://www.geocities.com/genisics/cheatz.htm)
superlative16@hotmail.com
PAL
yeah nearly forgot all that stuff, anyway... their just my normal pd times for now, i'll get more up once i get aorund to playin
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yeah using my strat inovating skills
35 g5 agent.. first attempt
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13 chicago agent...
i think it could go to 12, i'm pretty rusty... similar tactic to g5..
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18 chicago sa....
not sure wat to do next...
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39 g5 sa... i think that'll do for today.. gettin bored with it now
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Adam, how long have you had that sig? This is the first time I've seen it
. And I was obviously talking about his @#%$ Monster, nothing else
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Nevertheless,
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EDIT: And good job on finding another thing to play with, Adam. I'm sure you'll fit right into a 'cheater's league'
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And why the hell is Out war (when I have it as one word) getting bleeped?
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a whlie i guess, ussualy im not logged in so it doesnt show, but.. anyway
50 g5 pa
25 war a
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nice times, now you gotta post those strats man, come on...
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0:13 Chicago A, yeah 0:12 is very possible...play as elvis is just gay tho.
0:18 Chicago SA
0:18 Chicago PA
Chicago is ruined cuz of you Genisics, I didn't want to play with play as elvis :P
Edit: Dark0 check the rivalry again, Adam is added like if he had all the exact times as me.
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2:45 Rescue PA
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I said; "Let my Air Base Stuff alone"
1:56 Air Base PA
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lol g5 is easy involves the phoenix and some well places shots
lol sorry about chicago, couldn't resist
, anyway... war you use the farsight, its sorta like location dependant...
23 war Agent
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Could you mention a little more about WAR A?
WAR PA - :57
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go out the first door and farsight the king, good enough
for some reason it won't work till you go out that door..
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I think i got 1:34 infiltration SA a while back. This looks like some fun for me to have next tuesday. btw i'm not claiming that 134 but I'm gunna go for it.
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Villa A - 1:06 (damnit all to hell!!)
Chicago A - :14
SOS Agent - 1:28!!
WAR A - :24
WAR SA - :27
WAR PA - :29
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Well, I know you're going to ask my SOS strat so I'll give a hint now.
Let's just say that I waited the entire cinema, and I did not use the invincibility cheat. That should be good enough.
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I havent played PD in forever, but maybe I'll join next week or so when a few things pass that are stressing me out right now.
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please explain the chicago SA and PA strat, i must be doing something wrong , i cant do better than 20
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I never tried it, but maybe throw a remote mine on the door before you get the case? (for chicago SA/PA of course)
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cant do that because even with all guns for some reason you have 0 remote mines.
anyway, pretty good day today i guess...
0:12 chicago A
0:36 G5 A
1:05 villa A
1:24 ruins PA
1:27 SOS A
0:22 war! A
0:27 war! SA
0:28 war! PA
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oooh i also broke the total 24:00 agent barrier
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SOS SA - 1:34
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After about 10 minutes of playing, I've done 2 levels:
Villa A: 1:08
P2 PA: 2:08
These were first try too, so whatever. I'll try later.
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cyberwrath, tell me ur info and i can add u to the rivalry
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War A 022
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God, I can't keep a record for 5 minutes.
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LOL^^
only one or two try for War A
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Extraction A 0.55
Villa A 1.07
G5 A 0.37
Infiltration A 1.13
Sauvetage A 1.28
AB A 1.20
P2 A 0.52
Abysses A 2.23
something I like with the cheats (slow mode) is that I can easily do some nice runs, without tons of tries
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g5 A 0:35
infiltration A 1:10
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pelagic II A 0:51
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I would tell you my info, but I've only played 2 levels. This weekend I'll get a webpage up, and actually start playing, though I kinda wanted to get more TS2 in.
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Infiltration A - 1:10
Infiltration SA - 1:32
Infiltration PA - 1:36
Either my SA is crap, or my PA is
... I'd say A can go to 1:09 but no lower. 1:30 is probably possible for SA but the techie is gay... PA is lift perfection but could go to 1:33 maybe.
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i would say A could go even to 1:08 because i messed up my 1:10
and would you like to join? or are you just posting for the hell of it?
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sorry for abysses (deep sea) its was 2.27!
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Yeah I'll join... when I can be bothered
Extraction A - 0:42
Extraction SA - 0:55
Extraction SA could go to 52 or 51 I think
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Yeah so I'll be JugadorJ3 in this with:
colour - FFFF40 (same)
email - cooka51@hotmail.com
Aim - JugadorJ3
times page - www.angelfire.com/yt3/mattc/cheatpd
Err... can't think of anything else you might want to know
Thanks for adding me.
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Extraction PA - 1:12
2 (not untied) sweeps unless there are times I've skimmed over.
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Does anyone have anything superior to this for the villa PA:
take out 3 guards at start, straight to laptop throwing, enter building and exit the other side - take out the regular guy here then scoot back the way you came down to the basement. Press the 2 terminals and punch a guard on your way to the 3rd. Press 3rd, go down kill up to 5th guard. Take out farsight and kill 3 hackers. Bring out R/L and kill final guards for card. exit.
Should yield 110 if good... hm.
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1:10 villa SA
Pretty shoddy run though. I can't play anymore tonight so...
Also
Villa A - 1:04
Villa PA - 1:16 *you need to throw a remote / (proximity may work...) to blow up the first guard in the room on the left as you enter the basement. He doesn't appear until right after you kill the hackers. This can go below SA IMO.
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extraction A 0:45
post the strat please jugador, how do you cut off 3 whole seconds?
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No special strat; I promise.
What is your aim Dark0? and what is your first name? My name is Matt
OKay... records...
1:09 villa SA
i find this level hard. Could you post your strat, shade, for before the strat blends in with Agent?
1:12 villa PA (so that's what the R-tracker is for!!! (hackers) never knew
)
0:47 Pelagic 2 A
1:34 Pelagic 2 SA
1:47 Pelagic 2 PA (crap... just crap) ^^^sweep.
Think that's all.
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Dark0, maian A strat? Best i can think of is watch most or all of cinema, rocket into glass... run fast... no shooting to attract guard at lift (not sure here) shut lift as it opens perfectly... continue. Will that yield your score? If that's the strat... what's with SA and PA being so high? they should be like 1 second higher than A.
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2:42 Rescue PA
A good score by no means, but a record nevertheless.
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Rescue SA 2:15
(.96 decimal not rounded
)
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Escape A 2:24... wasted seconds at the end. Outer hanger door activated before i even left the terminal. I can't time it right in slo-mo.
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now your gonna rape my records but in maian A dont put on invincibility and in the long hallways you have to boost yourself like in WAR! A with the double phoenix, its really not that hard, just luck with the big door lift.
and whats the pelagic II strats, i have trouble with that level for some reason
my first name is David(as it says right below this) and my AIM is: skissors156
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Didn't see the name there David. OKie... we wants pelagic strats. OK:
For all my times i missed the speech skip.
I also did the x-ray scan part first also in all difficulties
straight after that is the gps (and for PA the scientists, which i do before gps)
Then activate the moon pool lift or finish for agent.
Head for the red stairs area.
Go to elvis.
Come back the way you came.
When a) going to the red stairs and b) coming back from the red stairs to the end... use some intuition about whether to go left or right - doors may be open on one side and not on another. I think for SA it's best to go left as you come out of the moonpool room and left as you come UP the red stairs. PA i have no idea.
And yeah i got 258 deep sea PA
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Thanks for the maian tip
Maian A - 1:24
I can pull this strat off on SA/PA for sure.
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Maian SA - 1:28
Maian PA - 1:29
These are harder (esp PA) because you take more damage from the boosts. I couldn't watch the whole cinema. Need to farsight and such... time wasting.
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Deep Sea PA 2:53
I had a run that would have been 249 but i quit because i thought it was slow
... I had my TTs messed up.
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I'm having trouble getting a fast elvis on PAL... It seems as though ntsc elvis works better for him... just like every other person you need to depend on.
The new record is... yep, you didn't guess it:
1:02 Villa Agent
Apparently phoenix boosting works with Joanna. Nowhere near as affective as with Elvis but it saves a bit. Hard to control.
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G5 Building Agent - 0:31
What strat were you guys using?
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G5 Buidling A - 0:29
SA - 0:36
PA - 0:44
Air Base A - 1:12.05 .... I had a freakishly fast run before the lift close (46.55 here) but a slow finish. I've got a strat that i'm gunna use for the end that's fast.
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Air Base A - 1:09
Air Base SA - 1:36
Air Base PA - 1:55
hot damn my lasers strat owns! get it off me on ... AIM.
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And no, those times were not aided by phoenix boosting. Phoenix boosting Joanna makes me feel dirty inside. I'll be changing my villa A time back to 1:04 and never shooting a phoenix at Joanna'a feet again.
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you guys haven't broke 1:30:00. I guess I'll join, and give all my stuff later. I'm off to go play.
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good idea J3
ONE LAST RULE:
Every player must use the INVINCIBILITY cheat at all times.
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guess that means im changin my infiltration time back up to 1:10
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oh, what about SOS? everyone boosted on that level. back up to 1:35? well, not tonight, food then sleep. tell me what you think.
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so it is any cheat we want. if so, it's not an rr, but it's something: Infil PA 2:08
J3 when did you enter the hallway/corridor before the placing the bug on the satellite.
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ya, any and all cheats can be used. the only real rule is you HAVE to use the invincibility cheat.
post ur info iggy, i cant wait to get u in!
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i still gotta set up a times page.
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maian and WAR! should be allowed IMO. Elivs boosting is like... there... no effort to use and everyone can do it cakestyle. Joanna kind of seperates people from those who can be bothered taking part it heart ache from those who "can"..
All those in favour of elvis boosting say so.
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Infil PA TTS
corridor 1st time - 12/13
2nd - 30/31 (i think)
hole - 39/41
Lift shut - 58 i'd say
next lift shut - 122/123
Those seem right.
Records:
Skedar Ruins A - 1:07
SA - 1:21
PA - 1:25 EIDT - nope that's not a record
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Carrington Institute A - 0:45
That glitch in PA where carrington tells you to defuse the bomb after you've done so occurred and screwed me out of 43 - 44
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OMG, you guys are weeners. It's the cheaters league, and you can make up yourslef what cheats you want to use. If you can boost yourself with the phoenix, so be it. If somebody can't control it, bad luck for them. You guys need to be remembered that we go for the best times possible, with all aids which are legit to use, and I mean legit in the game, not legit as in it doesn't go in against the "rules".
So if there's a cheat option for phoenix and such you can use it, point.
Also, if you're going to really apply that sad rule (which shows how irrealistic you are), then everyone will have to redo their defection agent 0:06 with invincible. what joy.
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i quote Ngamer64 when i say "Wouter Jansen is uncool"
go away
btw, i did get 6 defection with invincibilty, really easy, so there
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how the fuckdid you get 45, i couldnt do that good cuz i was waiting for speeches
and screw wut wouter says, i vote boosting only on levels where you start as maian. no boosting on levels with jo.
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ruins A 1:09
GOD DAM|\| THOSE UCKING DOORS!!!
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I agree david. Boosting takes the fun out of strategy in my opinion. Because all it is is "going faster"... Not making better turns or taking a better route... just plain old faster speed. It's just not fun. It's settled. David and I both see eye to eye i think and we are the main players at the moment.
Anyway... more dominating records
CI SA - 1:19
CI PA - 1:34
Strats are to take out basically everything with the farsight, never go upstairs.
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you guys are really pathetic. want to use cheats and still forbid the phoenix because it "takes the fun out". well then you shouldn't be going for fast times AT ALL, because that's what goes with it. We had to settle with lookdown and do all stuff over, you should be happy you know this pretty much as you start out, so you don't have to redo all with boosting. They didn't insert boosting for nothing. It helps getting faster times. If all what you want is that it is cake to achieve, then go play with your dick until you come, well that's easy. It should be hard to get WRs, they way you guys play, the WRs probably mostly come on first try. That's just stupid. and silly. and uncool. and jerky. and screwed. and full of piss. and anti-fasttimes. and sick. and nerdy. and newby. and n00b. and gamefaqs. and faggots. and upyours.
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*agrees with Wouter*
If the Phoenix boosting takes the fun out, then Bryan's 0:26 War! Agent should not be considered a WR.
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I think it's very fair to boost yourself whenever you can on PD since you have to do it so much on GE, get boosts from guards anyway, and strafe into the wall so you have top speed coming out of elevators.
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why do you guys even care, this isnt the real elite, just a little thing matt and i are doing to have some fun, nothing more. no money, no prizes, just fun. and i didnt say anything about brians 26 war!, he did a very good job getting that time, but with cheats you can do it on EVERY level, and thats just pointless.
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now, dont respond to my post, just have the common courtesy to stop posting here.
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Please leave us alone. If you want to form your own rivalry where it is allowed then go ahead and do so.
I'm planning on doing some research on CI PA... I'm wondering if i destroy the "files" as soon as carrington says the word i might negate some of the time that is wasted normally by needing to wait. We'll soon know.
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This was the first time i was "aiming for" and got. I'm proud of it.
1:27 CI PA
Close to maxed.
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why do we care? who says I care that there are idiots alive. too bad of players to find fun in truly going for fast times and thus instead just go for mediocre times why they could better have fun by just trying to kill everyone as slow as possible. killing yourself might be a start
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no new times for me yet, im busy lately
and wouter, i respect you, you are an amazing player and you could be one of the top in PD too if you tried. im not trying to argue with you, all im asking is that you leave us be. why should you care anyway, it doesnt affect you ONE BIT.
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Stop posting in this topic Wouter. You have no reason to be posting in this Rivalry topic.
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I'm so close to 1:16 CI SA... I got 1:17.65 losing 0.4 right at the start and doing the farsighting poorly. Here's the strat:
Start when you can
go fast and be past the "arch" at 29.80
turn the corner at the top and farsight the closest hostage taker upstairs
move a bit towards the hologram room
farsight next closest
move more
next guy
open door
kill final guy
get out R/L and use this to kill the guards in the firing range.
Hear "received" by Joanna, about 4 meters before you pass the "arch" or carrington won't "tell you of the bomb"
Virus needs to upload at 1:08.70 for 1:16... I'd say it's maxed but i could be wrong.
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w00t! I post because I don't like to be commanded and thus ignore those commanding posts. just like you could ignore this post. w00t!
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i am sorry i havent been playing, still no new times, but i still update and read the forums. i just dont have the time right now. once schools out(less than a month) ill get my act together and kick ur ass
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That's okay. I await your challenge
CI SA - 1:16.25
CI PA - 1:26
CI A - 0:42
Goodness and such.
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MBR A - 1:18
Skedar SA 1:19:-/ Bad doors
Skedar PA 1:20
good doors obviously.
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Hmm. I think it's time I played with some cheats on.
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MBR PA - 1:26
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MBR A - 1:19
MBR SA - 1:20
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I laugh at thee's 119.
I dreamt that wouter told me a strat for CI SA/PA.
1:15 SA.
1:14 would be max I'm sure.
Umm... yeah i'm gunna have a bit of a break and play windwaker now.
oh and 22 WAR! A. meh.
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1:15 MBR SA? Damn. I can barely stand the slow motion in that level. The only good thing is that I can push cass before she actually starts running. Hmm, I should try that on regular. Probly turn out horribly though.
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Note the reference to Carrington Institute before that 1:15 SA statement...
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cool, somebody dreams about me
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Duly noted.
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G5 SA 33.91 (not rounded)
Maxed I think. Taped it because i was gunna get a time on tape for wouter. I'm going to tape the following.
extraction sa
villa pa
infiltration pa
air base a
pelagic pa
CI pa
maian a or maybe sa