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The Big Three Plus One => Perfect Dark => Topic started by: Your Eliteness on July 24, 2003, 07:23:00 am
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Money received, PAL will be sent tomorrow. Package includes:
PAL system
PAL power cable thing
A/V cables
PAL Mario Kart 64
There's no expansion pack, but the jumper pack is still there. NTSC expansion packs can work on PAL as well (my PAL exp pack works on NTSC).
With Mario Kart, I erased the file which was on there
and made my own (I only completed the first grand prix). I tested the N64 and it works, it only took about 15 tries to position the game pack correctly (push it down as far as it will go).
Have fun with your new system!
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Why would anyone want Mario Kart 64 for PAL? especially when one has the ntsc version which is alot faster...
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it's faster but it doesn't help for the rankings since pal times are converted to ntsc
and I heard some people who said it was easier on pal to get fast times since basically you have more time to think about what you do
I guess it could be good for shade to test this
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Who clicks their fingers?/??
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yeah well, but of course it's stupid to "convert" times to ntsc.
it was never gotten on a ntsc cart and you never went as fast so you can't claim a wr on pal since it will always be slower.
it can be a pal wr, but not a ntsc wr. you can't combine the systems for mario kart 64. they are both different games. one runs slower, just face it.
it is exactly the same as Tim Greneby who said he had Defection Agent 0:33 while he actually had 0:34 on PAL.
He "converted" it to ntsc.. but is it the right thing to do? No, not at all, no way it is. it's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Amen.
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Ask Shade. He wants PAL MK64, so I'm sending it to him.
And Youse! *click click* What's your problem?
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omg, it's totally called snapping
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u people dont know about clicking? i made that famous in my high school. what u do is put ur middle finger and thimb together. make sure they are not touching too tightly, it must be very light for it to work. then move ur hand in a downaward fashion starting from ur shoulder to about ur waist. ur hand should be around 1-2 feet away from ur body, depending on how long ur arms are. try to get the index finger to land right perfectly onto the middle finger. if done correctly, this should make a click/snap sound. if u got it to work, call urself a clicker. once u get good, u can make really loud clicks. an average "clicker" can click about 3 clicks per second. (3 c/s) i can do 10+ c/s. u can do them really loud if u perform this with wet hands. so try it after waching ur hands, its easier with wet hands. for further, more detailed instructions, consult lanky007.
bedankt,
lank
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lol wouter I didn't say it was a good thing to convert pal times into ntsc times , you asked "Why would anyone want Mario Kart 64 for PAL? especially when one has the ntsc version which is alot faster..." and I just answered you : because of the rankings , where you could eventually get better times using a PAL cartridge . It doesn't really matter if it's good or bad , because that's still the way it works
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lol =P
it is not the way how it works... it's the way how things go on the rankings, but it doesn't work like that.
also, if you get slower times, there's no way you could be getting better times than times which beat them.
it's like saying defection agent 0:33 is better than 0:06.
it is not, since you need to know how to get the 6 in order to get it, and thus 6 is better, no matter if the 33 might need more work or whatever, it doesn't beat the 6.
then you should just not use a slower strat.
Or a slower game/system for that matter.
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"it is not the way how it works... it's the way how things go on the rankings, but it doesn't work like that."
that's obviously what I meant : the way how it works on the rankings
About defection , it's not exactly the same : you can make the fast strat or the slower strat on both systems ( you can get 6 and 33 on ntsc and you can get at least 6 and 34 on pal ). On mk64 , you can just go at the speed your system allows it . And of course it'd be unfair to rank pal times and ntsc times together , that's why they made those pal times converted into ntsc . I'm not saying it's the best solution , maybe pal and ntsc rankings should be completely separated , I don't know but right now , the rankings "work" (
) like that and I guess it can explain why so many ntsc people want to try the pal version
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BTW Shade, I need to talk to you on AIM.
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the ntsc people would be stupid to waste time and money on that.. to get slower times. oh well I am not going to bother explaining since it should be cristal clear, but whatever. the 2 are completely different games and converting is no solution. the only solution is buy a ntsc system (for the pal players), and get their best times there if they want wrs.. or get them on pal and have their pal wrs. you can't go and combine the 2.
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I can do about 9 clicks a second or something, haven't really counted...If someone sees me do just one, they think I am snapping...so I do like 487032 in 2 seconds and they are like wow you are amazing I wish I could be your friend you are too cool for though damn I love you.
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it's completely clear in my mind wouter , you misunderstood my posts or didn't read them correctly :
You seem to think I disagree with what you said whereas I just told you rankings work like that , that's why ntsc people want pal versions , it doesn't matter if they're right or wrong , that's how it happens . I wasn't giving my point of view , just explaining you why ntsc players could need pal versions
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at Wouter, you really dont understand the PAL/NTSC situation in the KART world dont you. PAL is like playing in Slo-Mo in PD so you can get better times. So thats why I asked YE to buy me one.
Yeah Thx Ryan...even with the lil prob...it'll get fix... dont worry
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Shade! Is it still pretty rare for an MK64er to have access to both systems? Because now we'll both have them, and be like the coolest kids on the block, or something.
Oh, and, how exactly will we do that for the rankings? Do we just convert them ourselves, and send in converted times? Seems too crazy for words.
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What do you mean shade? Get some sense, think about it:
Yes, you kind of play with slowmotion.
Well, that is because it GOES SLOWER.
That makes you get slower times, and thus, worse times.
Just to make another comparison:
It's like a racing tournament.
cars can go at certain speeds
if a car would go at it's slowest speed
and finishes last
it would NOT be converted to the time it would have finished in, if he had raced at its highest speed. you see? NOT!
Even if he might have had the WR then.
since, you can't know what would have happened if you were faster. Since being faster means > needing to react faster, turn earlier and all that stuff. You can't convert times like that.
I should go take a walk in the woods and claim the wr of sprinting (wr of 100 m running or so). I'll just show them a vid of where I walked and say you got to convert it to the fastest speed a person could be running, and voila! I'd have the wr. how cake is that. and totally not legit and obviously illogical.
The only thing the guys who got pal games can do is get the pal wrs for mk64... so if they gonna make seperate rankings (which would be the only right thing to do) and you take the time to waste some more time on mk64 on pal.. you could get in both leagues and maybe become first in both. that's all there is to it.
I don't get why you would go and play pal mk64 when you seemed to have little time for playing games... you could better use it for owning pd which you do so much better.
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All karters already know that, Wouter.
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I don't think it matters, that game sucks anyways.