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The Big Three Plus One => Perfect Dark => Topic started by: renemesis on May 24, 2003, 06:58:00 pm
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Lollerskates.
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MBR PA - 1:32
This run was so funny. It was excellent until the part where I kill the 2nd to last guard. Right then I ran through an N-bomb and lost my mauler. I had to do a quick draw and get my falcon 2 out to kill the fu.cker. So I did that. Then at the last door, cass turned slow when she opened it. So yeah, I think I did great with what I had. I guess my next PA PR will be a WR.
edit: great, an hour more of playing and nothing. I can't wait till I just get the damned WR so I can play Agent. Dropping the bombspy off is very annoying IMO.
Ok, I am pretty sure I'm just gonna leave it at this. I'm not gonna play seriously on this level anymore. (SA and PA at least). The only way I'll improve is if I play just for the heck of it and get damn lucky. Or perhaps if I feel like spending another 10 hours on this level someday. It is kind of cool playing at a level until you are on the edge of WRs instead of quitting once you get 80+ pointers though.
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Air Force One SA - 1:28
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2:27 Rescue SA
3:09 Rescue PA
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Air Force One SA - 1:27
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What are the luck aspects in your MBR strat? As far as i knew there wasn't actually any luck... Just misunderstood play elements... What's up with it?
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Air Force One PA - 1:34
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Hmm, the luck aspects. Let me see.
There is a LOT less luck than everyone makes it out to be in MBR. Luck parts... On A/SA, getting into the 2nd elevator smoothly is a luck part.
Getting cass to run fast is based on luck. And if you think there is some trick you can use to make her run fast... you're wrong. It just means you're a n00b to the level. Also, you want her to run immediately. So for the absolute best run, you must get a fast cass that runs the instant you get done skipping her speech. Also, you must NOT let a fast cass open any door except the very last one. If you do, chances are she will turn into a slow cass, and it would waste time even if she didn't.
The other things that depend on luck are the guards mostly. Sometimes they can be real dumbasses. Throwing N-bombs, and shooting you out of the way are annoying, as well as getting in the way occasionally. And sometimes (not too much) Cass will go in kind of a circle, which wastes time. Ah, and people may believe that Cass talking or not talking on a run is based on luck. It is in a very small way, but 99% of her talking can be avoided if you know what you're doing. One of the very worst things you can do is get in front of her, except for in the 2 spots where you must open a door for her quickly.
Speech skipping might also be somewhat based on luck. I can skip both of them cleanly about 75% of the time though so I'm not sure.
If you're good, then 1:30/1:34/1:38 should come (VERY easily if you know the right strat) without much trouble in the luck deptartment. An hour tops for those. If you can't get them, don't blame it on luck. You just suck.
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Extraction A - 0:56
Defense SA - 1:36
Defense A - 0:56
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Escape A - 2:40
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I thought I'd play MBR LTK. I don't think this is worthy to post in the WR topic even though it apparently beats the record. This isn't even slower than normal PA. Got it on my first try.
MBR LTK - 1:40
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come on travis, take first on the MBR leaderboard, ur one of the only people who can...
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Attack Ship SA - 3:03
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All I need to do is improve my PA by 1 second and I'll be in 1st. Thing is though.. my controller is very gay. But perhaps I'll give it a shot later. I did watch Karl's PA vid and it looks to me like he drops the bombspy faster than me. I could try it. But it would probably just lead to more frustration so I dunno. Also I watched Lec's vid and saw that he does open the last door for cass. Which can make the bitch talk, but what the hell if you're going for a WR anyway. lol
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Now aren't u happy u have motivational people like me?
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hehe, yeah. Thanks.
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MBR A 1:24
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AF1 PA 5:48 (PAL)
Attack Ship PA 11:17
Attack Ship SA 5:08
Investigation SA 3:51
G5 SA 1:45
MBR A 1:58
SOS A 2:30
SOS SA 4:15
Villa SA 2:16
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not like the pal reference matters for such a time
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LOL
anyway..
Air Base A - 1:24
Sucky run but at least it's worth more than 2 points like my previous time. I need to work on the lasers.
Oh, and something strange happened on this level when I threw the dragon. It sounded like it was bouncing around when I was going to the door with the drugspy, then it started some kind of chain reaction of explosions that went on for about a minute or two. This happen to other people?
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It happens all the time. It's weird.
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Ok, so it's normal then.
hehe, I watched Shade's 1:16 A again and he really flies by those lasers. Kind of the opposite of me.
AB SA - 1:59. first try.
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AB SA - 1:54
AB PA - 2:32
damnit shade, this level isn't half bad.
On PA I can't seem to go into the elevator in the beginning without being seen or something. There is always a guy waiting at the bottom and it never happens on SA. for my 2:32 I went and got the disguise first instead cuz I suck. The rest of the level is cake actually.
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Egyptian made me mad earlier with slow Baron deaths, so I decided to take out a couple of my bad times.
If it makes me mad again, I'll just play more PD to get away from it.
Rescue PA 3:15*
Escape PA 3:54*
AS PA is my next target to make the 4 min club.
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Yeah, if you release your CamSpy at a certain moment, the game glitches and throws heaps of Dragons. Then you leave the CamSpy and they all blow up in your face and kill you.
Skedar Ruins A 1:26
MBR A 1:39
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AB A - 1:22
AB SA - 1:52
AB PA - 2:30 (can get at least 2:19)
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AS PA 3:58*
Considering that this took a few hours, this run really did suck. Oh well, I got the 4 min club now.
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Dammit, Bryan is already PRing. I expect my first PR to be a WR..
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Chicago A 0:16
Chicago SA 0:31
Chicago PA 0:33
It took me two hours straight to get 0:16. I never want to play Chicago Agent again.
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1:36 MBR PA
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p2 PA 2:40
Not bad, but it could've been better. The beginning wasn't very smooth and i got stuck on a guard after Elvis. At least I didn't die.
CS PA 2:12
All i can say about this level is the pres is t3h w34n3r.
g5 sa :58
This level makes me claustrophobic.
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I got a lot of them since it didn't take long to get mad at Egyptian again.
CS PA 2:10*
Escape SA 3:48*
G5 A 0:46*
G5 SA 0:55*
G5 PA 1:10*
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G5 A 0:45*
G5 SA 0:54*
G5 PA 1:08*
I got leaderboard #5 overall, #3 currently. The PA run really sucked, but the beginning is funny because I took out the far cloaked guard and then had 1 bullet left for the other, and after wasting time finding him, I shot him right in the head, it's so funny.
I'll come back to this level on another date.
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AS A 2:25*
Escape A 2:34* (lost time at the end, think it could have been 2:31/2:32 with the ending done correctly)
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That's the stuff, Bryan. I'd like to see you go top 3 at least
I might join you there in a year or 2
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AB A - 1:21 (.03)
This sucked. I would have 1:20 or better atm but I quit cuz my game froze. Damn thing has been freezing a lot lately.
I wonder if it's just coincidence or my game pak is screwing up.
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Escape A 2:32*
I messed up the ending again with a hesitation before Jon's last line, oh well.
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Maian SOS Agent 1:41.
This was quite tough. What TTs do you need for 1:39?
I catched the 1st lift at about 55 high (closed), the 2nd lift at about 1:20 low I think (closed). So I suggest 1:18 the 2nd lift closed, and/or 53 for the 1st lift. but like.. I don't see where I lose 2 sec. I don't do the shooting at the start as fast as Karl, and the hole is little slower. but I'd say that would make 1 sec together. Also, my 1:41 must have been like 1:41.99
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AB A 1:18*
SOS PA 2:18*
I'll tape over that SOS and work on it for 2:15ish. Shade will be proud that I can actually do well on AB now.
SOS PA 2:16*
P2 PA 2:36*
The SOS had a bad ending, but I'll stay with it. P2 was just another one of those first completions after getting used to the level. I'll get back to it later.
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i got my 64 back yesterday, so i decided to play a lil bit
and what the hell
AF1 A 0:56.05
this came preety fast, and was kind of a lame run. i was slow at some parts, but the pres was hella fast. after that, i was goin for 55.. and did a 'perfect' run - fast blondes, fast pres - and when the pres is getting into the pod.. the game FREEZES! oh how cool is that! it was a 55 for sure..
btw im just playing for fun.. i dont wanna own anything or move up at the rankings. AF1 is just a fun level.
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Go Vitor!
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Ruins SA 1:30
wtf i dont believe i got this in 5 min of play.. i was lying around the level, and when i saw i got a good pilar combination i thought "hum lemme try". man, i hadnt played the level for like 3 months, and i did everything smooth, no door-stuck, good skedar jump.. only one door wasnt opened like Zeebo's 1:29, or else i'd have the wr. it was like 1:30.5 or so..
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Chicago PA 0:31* (another leaderboard)
Man, this is a tough level to do real fast. I did get another 29 SA, so that is now on tape. If there's a reasonable WR to go for other than Def 6 and Duel 9, it would be SA 28. I failed several although I'm not sure how legit the sloppy mine throws were.
Rescue A 1:33*
I got stuck after blowing up the wall for a sec, but the rest was reasonable.
Rescue SA 2:28*
I think I had a faster 2nd lift than my agent, but I lost time here and there, but a good run overall.
I'm gonna pwn Escape SA/PA soon. I had a 1:53 Jon and screwed up badly from there... just maybe a level I suck at could turn 180 degrees, aka leaderboard.
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Duel PA 0:10.8x
More info in a few hours, hopefully. Gotta eat pizza now.
EDIT: Okay, here's all the details...
I popped the first guard in the head.
I missed Jon but turned and got a headshot quickly (he was at the closer side)
I fired my Magnum at Trent and paused. The crosshairs were on the right hand side of him. I unpaused, the crosshairs snapped back onto his chest and the gun went off. I was in shock and looked at the timer. 0:10.8x.
Geez, I only wanted 0:11.
EDIT 2: Attack Ship SA 2:59
Now I bet some poor bastard will read that and think it's PA.
Anyway, it was a nice run. I think it was a 1:53 locked door.
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AF1 SA 1:28
AF1 PA 1:38
haha, these sucked but this level isn't too bad. I should FINALLY improve that agent time now. 1:04 is just not acceptable anymore.
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Maian SA 2:06. The first lift was full open when I arrived. If I can get it to exactly close in on me, I could probably get about 2:02. Not to mention it wasn't perfect.
Maian PA 2:31. 2nd lift arrived at about 2:07 high low 2:08.
Also taped 2 Investigation SA 2:18s. about high 1:36 low 1:37 bots. I've only had one bot faster so far, being 1:32, but I @#%$ up that potential 2:13 by leaving to early at uploading.
I can't forgive myself for that. I was surprised that PAL could get such a bot.
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AF1 A 1:00
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Attack Ship PA 3:39
I got this with a 1:30 hanger lift shut
and a 2:41 2nd last lift call... Had to wait about 5 seconds for it to come. I'm good at the end.
Goal : WR.
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Duel SA 0:06
What the hell?!?! I was trying for this earlier today but I couldn't seem to hit jon when I killed the first guy. I went on to get War! A 0:28 and and Ruins PA 2:04. Then I came back to Duel and after like 4 or 5 tries I kill the first guy on 0.13 then do a perfect shot to jon but HE WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE!!! I PEGGED HIM RIGHT IN THE HEAD FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE TO GET...dududuh.., 0:06.98
That made my day.
Has anyone done that?
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haha Matt, now when I see you post next in the WR topic I'll know what level it is.
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Oh...My...God...Just my second run going for better than 9 on Duel PA i get another perfect 6 for jon. coincidences suck ass...
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I got a lot of them in 1 1/2 days worth of work. None of them took over 30 min really.
Escape SA 3:42* (1:59 Jon)
Escape PA 3:48* (2:03 Jon)
Def 0:06* (6.65)
AF1 PA 1:33* (52.56 cinema)
AF1 SA 1:23* (52.26 cinema)
AF1 A 0:57* (26.20 cinema, 57.25 finish, I already had this, but now it's on tape)
Villa A 1:14* (53.86 obj 2)
Villa SA 1:27* (1:04.85 obj 3)
Wow, I'll probably take a break today. I got a graduation party going on later as well.
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p2 sa 2:05
I was going through the 3rd door in the level at about 14.2. A little too nervous to look at the time after that. Good speech skips. Bad post-elvis. Got stuck from the guards going up the stairs while reloading. Only bad part really. Gave up on 1.2, again. Definately going to work on this one more.
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way to go, Matt, I can't wait till new wrs. (thinks invest SA
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David, you can't have killed the first guard in duel at 0.13.
You need to pause and the fastest for that is probably 0.10 to have it working, then you still have to spin before you hit him. You probably paused at 0.13.
I'd like to see that SA 0:06. Although 6.98 is not perfect, there sure are faster runs around.
What did you mean with that "I just got another perfect duel 6 and going for better than 9 on pa"? Are you trying for Duel PA 8? Good luck it will probably annoy you alot. It probably requires insane perfectness.
Good going, Bryan.
Now my latest sucktastic time.
Investigation Special Agent 2:17
It was a stupid 1:36 bot.
I've only once had a faster bot, being 1:32, and I fuckdammit fuckit up.
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how come when I decide to play everyone else decides to play?
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I didnt get the 6 on tape but I will start taping today, I just hooked up my VCR because I'm getting dangerously close to WR on ruins SA. I got a failed(bad pillars) 1:36 that was so bad, I must have lost at least 3-4 seconds.
And yes, i meant that I paused on 0.13
I meant that I was trying to improve my 0:11 PA duel to 9 or 10 after I got the 6 and my second run for PA I got a perfectly to trent which would've given me a 6 on SA. I just thought it was ironic.
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My computer crashed and I don't have a spare Windows disk. I might not be online for about a week (I'm at my friends place at the moment). I've played the hell out of PD in the last two days...
Defection PA 1:47
Extraction SA 1:52
Skedar Ruins SA 1:51
Skedar Ruins PA 2:14
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AF1 A 0:56*
Finally, this wasn't so bad once I knew what was going on at the end. I basically used the same strat as Shade's 55.
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AF1 A - :59
This could have been at least :58, or maybe even :57 if the pres didn't decide to run to the left of the door when he got down the steps. I need to get shades vid so I know what I'm doing. lol
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Let's all join together and damn Investigation and its uberfuck bot to hell.
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Ok, Windows is fixed. Here are my new times...
Rescue A 1:38
Rescue SA 2:37
Pelagic II A 1:02
Pelagic II SA 2:25
That cuts about 1:30 off my total time since Windows crashed.
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Let's all join together and damn Investigation and its uberfuck bot to hell.
I'm in. Damn that uberfuck bot!
AF1 A-0:58 -decent run, not great though.
Duel SA-0:06-finally, *will never play that level again.
Villa PA-2:12-Sloppy run, but at least I didn't die!
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Yeah, what difficulty are we playing Invest on, Wouter? SA? I'll keep playing that.
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AB SA 1:50*
(got stuck for a sec at least, almost missed the ladder...)
DS PA 3:50
(won't accept this, taped over)
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I assumed we were playing invest on agent? That's when the bot seems the gayest, at least for me.
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I didn't PR but after 2 hours of play I am going to post my results so far.
I've been playing MBR SA. Tonight I managed to get 1:28 3 times. Also I got some good TTs. Such as a 43.23 disarming and once I got cass to the last ramp at 1:18 (level ends 6 - 7 seconds after). What happened then was that she went around the rail of the ramp at the bottom. I should have ran ahead of her and blocked it but I was dealing with a stupid guard and being a dumbass. I will untie it sooner or later.
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Crash Site Agent 1:30
Crash Site SA 1:45
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it doesn't matter. for agent/ special agent the bot is both extremely gay and I don't know about PA yet but I bet going for the fastest bot will be an extreme pain there aswell. Then also hoping not to die will come in play so invest pa maxing will be like fuckedup gayturdness.
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Investigation A 2:20 - stupid bot
Ruins A 1:20 - this sucked, I've gotten failed 1:18s easy
Crash Site A 1:35 - I read somewhere that some carts can't hit the capsul from on the bike. Is this true? I can't seem to be able to do it.
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at the "some cart" comment. I can assure you that you can hit the capsule from the bike even on YOUR cart... just try harder
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ah shut up...
Crash Site A 1:26
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Crash Site SA 1:44 - this sucked
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It helps if you hit it from a certain angle and press it right when you are going against it. It's cake on SA and PA but just a tad harder for me on agent. Of course I am not fond of that level.
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AB SA 1:49*
DS PA 3:36* (better, but still some big mistakes)
MBR PA 1:37*
MBR SA 1:32*
MBR A 1:28*
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MBR A 1:34
Come on , NTSC are lucky for having such an advantage over us
I guess it feels good to start PRing again after more than 2 mnths of inactivity
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MBR A 1:33
Nothing really different from my previous 1:34 , I just pushed Cass better at the end , even if she took a very large corner on the way to the helipad.A very average run everywhere , I haven't got the feeling that Cass was the fastest ever met.Come on , PAL need a WR below 1:30 , it's a question of honor , so SZ wake up and play the goddamm level with me
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just move forward against the capsule whilst you press B. Don't strafe past it and blindly hit B... That's nice for SA and PA... A is god awful and i don't remember how to do it fast. Same strat but you'd have to do some complex movement to get into perfect position for optimum speed yada yada yada.
*push against it while you press* to summarize.
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Some more MBR spam...
MBR A 1:32
Oh well , the run was pathetic.It is captured already , I'll put it online if I can't get better (but I'm sure I can).Man Cass entered the room after the staire at 1:06 (
) !!!! And I once got her entering here at 1:02...Nice ending though , Cass took all the corners somehow sharply and fast...Close to 1:31 according to the timer at the very end.
Next time I'll post here it will be for a PAL Record
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DS PA 3:29*
Dammit, I missed 2 FarSight shots. I could have a share of the WR if it wasn't for that. I'll keep working on it.
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Godamn Bryan thats some insane stuff Nice job.
1:34 MBR PA for me
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I can do the capsul in agent about as fast as paragon in his PA vid. I know I can do better than 1:26 so I'll go for that later. My biggest problem is getting the case without slowing down, I miss it when I think I go right over it. @#%$ case.
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the case on A? did I miss something out here?
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He's talking about about 3 levels in one sentence.
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sounds like he's talking about CS
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Yeah, we already know that iggy
Now that I reread it, it doesn't make sense with the case in there but yes, I was talking about all three difficulties.
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DS PA 3:28*
After about 6 hours or so from 3:36, this is the best I could do. With a 1:13ish Elvis, this is pretty damn good time. I have the NTSC WR now too.
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Way to go Bryan! Take the WR and make NTSC own.
Also, it's nice to see people actually playing MBR for once.
As long as you don't beat my times.
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Crash Site SA 1:35 - this surprised me
Chicago A 0:16 - Finally, after using the pause trick this came easy
BTW, I also got a failed 2:04 Crash Site PA. Look out record, here I come
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219 Attack ship A. hardly likeable.
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I got 1:28 MBR Agent on PAL.
-KArl
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Put it on your PAL page so the PAL updater can pick it up.
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Ruins A 1:13*
Meh, one of the doors was slightly gay and I took too long making the jump me thinks. I'll stick with this for now though.
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2:33 Skedar SA.
Okay, I haven't PR'ed or played Perfect Dark in about a year. I don't know why I just woke up this morning and decided to play it, and I don't think I'll continue.
I get too impatient anyway, and this crappy Skedar SA run wasn't even with the good pillars. I had the first close-up pilla, the one near the reaper-toting Skedar to the right of the cliff, and the pillar waaaaay in the far back of the level. And I got stuck on lots of doors. I could easily take 2 minutes off my PA time, but what's the use?
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1:17 Infiltration Agent (PAL)
Had 2 1:18's where the lift was shut when I got to it, and on this I waited a sec or 2 for the lift to close behind me. I can get 1:15 on a good run, but I'll just go for 1:16. For some reason I also had some urge to play pd over ge...
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Crash Site PA 2:13 - Taped. This run sucked, I waited 2 seconds so the pres would complete, hesitated and killed some guys at the end and missed the first shot of the magnum but I'm am still happy I finally completed a good run
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War! A 0:27 - that took all of five minutes
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Heh, who doesn't miss the last shot on CS PA?
DS A 3:13*
DS SA 4:21*
Both runs had their mistakes, but they are pretty nice times to have.
Ruins SA 1:39
This level sucks going fast. I did have a bad pillar setup though that lost 4-6 sec probably.
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Well , if you go on that little hill just in front of you when you target the ship and shot , you have 95% of chances to get it first try.A cake really , all you have to do is to be a little higher than normal ground.
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or you can go straight instead of right after you come out into the open and take the 3 second faster route to the ship. Still hard to hit the ship perfectly fast though.
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"BTW, I also got a failed 2:04 Crash Site PA. Look out record, here I come"
most top players have gotten failed 153s etc. so yeah.
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SOS SA 2:01*
Meh, mid 1:41 lift closed.
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god damn bryan.. ur getting some nice pr's.. gj. soon u'll pass me
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Looks like I'm going down a rank too.
0:56 AF1 A
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Extraction A 0:59
Extraction PA 2:00 - I could do better, but I can't be bothered.
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I'm not in the top 10, and you guys are already thinking about losing a place.
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Crash Site A 1:23
Cake, hopefully my next post will be a WR.
I'm also going for the SA WR because I've had some great runs.
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CI PA 2:08
I had to wait about 9 secs in the hangar because of Carrington
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MBR PA 1:40
Pretty fast Cass and all , but I did loads of mistakes that costs me a nice 1:36.First I didn't skip Cass' last speech , and the bitch was ready to move before finishing.1 sec here.
After that on the top of the stairs I pushed her too hard so that she did a 360 and ran weirdly.1 more sec here (TT=she entered the room at 1m11)
And at the end of course , on the LAST corner , she went mad again and did some more 360 so that to show me she can dance pretty well.2 secs lost here.
At least now I know how to get good Cass consistently.
Ask the vid through AIM if you're interested (6 Mb)
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MBR SA 1:35
MBR PA 1:39
Each took like 10 mins.Although I'm pretty sick of MBR (Chicago PA , wait your turn!), I'll keep playing it.I NEED leaderboard !
Vids are coming.
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CI A 0:55
CI SA 1:35
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Investigation SA 2:16 *sigh* 1:34/5 bot
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Infil SA 1:59
lol, this run sucked. It was my first completion (old time was 2:1
and almost nothing seemed to go right. I'm surprised at this time.
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Ruins SA 1:31*
Wow, I wasn't expecting this to pop up. I also got a crap 1:57 PA that had bad pillars, slow skedar army part, etc.
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Air Base SA 1:56
Annoying level, but I will not give up.
It feels great to shoot the alarm guy in the head with a crossbow in full strafe
EDIT: Air Base SA 1:55
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Nice one bosshardt just close the record topic. pfft
140 infiltration SA. I broke my own. but OMG worst run EVAAARR!
Got stuck at the top of the ladder for a second... and leaving the second lift i get stuck on the door then escape and get stuck on a guard...
1:40.06 was the decimal.
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Air Base Agent 1:21
Air Base PA 2:36
On the PA run, I got to the last lift with gunfire in my ears and saw it half open. I didn't know if it was opening or closing. There was about an inch left until I realised it was closing, so I reopened it and hopped inside
If you call that lift does it come back? Or is it like the first lift?
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you can call it.
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Infiltration SA 1:54
Matt, the PAL rankings say you have 1:41 (PAL, obviously) but the second best time is 1:44. Are you sure that is your PAL time?
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Infil A - 1:16 (would have been 1:15 if I didn't get stuck for a stupid second before the 2nd lift)
Infil SA - 1:55
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So I take it you're (matt) going to play Infil SA again?
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1:16 Infiltration Agent (PAL)
Got a couple of 1:17's, but this came in the end. I think I'll forget thoughts of going for 1:15 though.
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Maian PA 2:19. well it's 12 sec off of my previous time
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oh damnation! I taped the 2:19 then I try to capture it do I see it's taped shitly (godly @#%$). You see like 2-3 seconds half screen normally grey, then it gets all interruptions, then it repeats those 3 secs, then it goes further where it would have been if it went 3 secs further, and thus 3 secs are missing out every 6 secs. oh well, then I might aswell not tape it.
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more damnation: Maian SA 2:02. I reopened the final lift
expect faster soon.
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War SA 0:53
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"are you sure that that is your PAL time"
you just lost a lot of my respect, Ryan. Don't treat me like an idiot.
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Iggy: yes, damn straight i am
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CI PA 1:56*
After 2 1:58s and 1 1:57, I'm glad to finally hit the milestone. I could probably get 1:55 without even doing the devastator shot the WR way since I had to take out 2 guards at the bottom of the lift instead of the 1.
Nice SOS leaderboard Wouter.
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you DO do the shot the WR way right? and you are talking about the hologram room, yes?
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Yes, that's the spot, where the 3 shield guards are. I didn't do the WR way on the 1:56. I went in there doing that shot, but then another on the other side as well too, which takes about 1-3 seconds more I think.
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i did 1:56 doing like u did bryan.. it's really a pain in the ass to do the faster way. and u lose about 1.5 - 2s i guess.. anyway, nice pr.
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I bet you don't know you're aiming for the hostage who goes to the back right corner of the room.
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Deep Sea PA - 4:44
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How long is a good (like WR) ending in PII SA???????
Ending=From Elvis to end.
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Infil SA - 1:52
I got this with the techie guy in the room where I plant the explosive. I had to call the 2nd lift back up cuz of that too. I think that I can get 1:48 with the techie down there if I time the lift for it, and maybe 1:44? if I get the card before I go down (not sure how much time that saves. I'm guessing 4 seconds).
Some of the TTs I get (not necessarily on my PR run)
Get shield - :41.xx
1st lift shuts - ??? (I know it begins to shut at about 1:01 (and maybe a bit earlier) on some of my runs)
I don't know any good ones I've had after that. I'm sure if they were any good at all I'd have a better time. Worst things about this level.... Waiting the cinema, and trying to knock out the techie before he drops down that hole. Rest is fun. I need to talk to Matt some more about it. Can't believe I typed all this for a crappy PR.
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I would play Infil SA more often if it wasn't for the VERY LONG cinema. I'll get to it later on when I have the patience.
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Infil SA - 1:47 (.00)
Ugh, I cut the cinema earlier so I could get the keycard way easier, but then I ended up waiting several seconds at the 2nd lift as well as running into the wall instead of through the last door to the end. Could easily have been 1:46. I've decided this level is very gay. Now for 1:15 agent.
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The 2 strats for infil SA are:
start just before the cinema ends (half a second)
start when carrington says 'away you go to the hanger'.\
the latter is hard to make the lift (kinda)
the prior is hard to make the techie due mainly to his randomness.
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I wish investigation had a godawfully long intro...
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Maian SA 2:01
Let's see if I can capture this run now I've taped it with the other vcr..
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ok. it's captured. like a little more than half screen, upper half not visible, meaning at the end you don't see the "complete" status. It's grey and it shakes. Shaken, not stirred
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5 Maian SA 2:01s
At least Bryan got a nice time
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CI PA 1:54*
I still used 2 shots for the 3 shielded guards, but the ending was very clean.
Ruins PA 1:46*
I didn't do that well on the skedar army, but a good run for PA.
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Maian SOS PA - 2:37
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1:35 MBR PA
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haha wtf..
Pelagic 2 SA 1:56 (twice)
Pelagic 2 PA 2:15
no new pr's, i just got these again.. the 1:56's were with at least 4s of stuckage and no doors opened.. the 2:15 was with lotsa stuckage too.. i hope to get the SA wr tonight (hopefully around 1:52-1:53).
btw i need tt's for SA.. i want to know if those are enough for the WR:
door to moonpool lift - 0:22.8
skipping speech at GPS (first speech) - 0:38
door to generator - 0:50 (got a 0:49)
if someone could tell me lec's tt's for 1:54 i'd appreciate
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I usually skipped at 37, but got to the door at 0:51, so it's all good greg.
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Defense PA - 2:08
Attack Ship PA - 3:50
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P2 SA 1:55 (like .20)
0:53 generator door
kinda smooth end, 2 doors opened.. i'll play more tomorrow.. i can get 0:50 generator doors each 15 min of play, but i get stuck a lot on the way back. i might play some Inst PA also.
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Extraction 0:52
The face says it all, still got stuck on the same door as the 53 vid.
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Inst PA?
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Institute, hoe
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Ext SA 1:35*
Well I blew 2 1:34 chances, but this is still surprisingly a good time according to the elite.
Onto PA later.
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Infiltration PA - 3:48
With that, all my PA times are under 5 minutes.
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Ext PA 1:48*
Yay, tied for 4th place on the leaderboard now.
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Maian SOS Agent 1:40
I just barely got this taped.. the tape was at 0 left haha.
Anyway this level is kind of fun would I not get shot back like thousand times every run.
This was a high 1:19 2nd lift.
About high 55 first lift I think it was.
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Rescue PA - 4:23
Escape PA - 4:26
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AS PA 3:49*
The thing that makes this level so hard is getting Elvis to complete obj 3 AND live. I think I can get around 3:40 if he would work with me more often. Living the level is finally not a problem for me anymore.
It's just one of those levels that I have to keep playing over and over until everything falls into place.
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Extraction SA 4:51 (-4:39)
Villa A 1:42 (-0:11)
Chicago SA 2:17 (-2:35)
G5 SA 2:33 (-4:21)
G5 PA 3:33 (-3:38)
Escape SA 6:46 (-5:03)
Crash Site SA 4:35 (-5:16)
Duel SA 0:09 (-0:05)
Kinda skipped making an introductory post. My name's Mike Nardone, and found this site making the crossover from Mario Kart 64. My PD times are awful, these PRs are awful, and I'm currently awful at this game. Never played for speed times until a few days ago...hopefully, I can beat Maian PA and WAR! PA and have a full set of times (told you I was awful!) ...yeah.
EDIT: www.geocities.com/gravy_smoothie/pdprofile.htm
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AS PA 3:44*
AS A 2:23*
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Good luck, Mike.
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1:55 Infiltration PA
*Slow technician
*Lift shut at 113 (2 seconds slow of best)
*Not hurt from here to post last lift
*Missed last lift due to the 2 seconds lost
*Lift shuts at 137
*Lost another 4 seconds calling back the lift and getting in
*Lift shut at 1:40.88
*14.2 second finish for 1:55.12
You do the math.
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Half of everything is luck, Jugador.
Villa PA 6:34 (-7:14!)
Rescue A 4:30 (-5:09)
Maian SOS A 4:08 (-2:35)
WAR! A 0:36 (-0:05)
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check out this new pimpin pr:
Chicago A :14
That is, Chicago A 00:14:00.7x
I played it for 20 seconds, left it for 13 minutes and 30 seconds, and then waited for the 14:00 minute mark, just to see what it was like.
I think i'm as good as Josh now.
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Weird, Umble Soup has 1 posts.
Even more strange, he posted twice in this topic alone already.
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AS SA 2:50*
Yay, I don't have to play that level anymore for a while.
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2:45 Inves PA
1:12 Villa A
0:43 G5 A
0:50 G5 SA
1:03 G5 PA
All gotten between the 1st and now.
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CI PA 2:01.83
My hands are numb. I'm shaking like hell.
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Infiltration Agent 1:20
Gay run, gay everything, gay faggot guards at the top of the ladder, gay elevator, gay level, gay gay gay.
Extraction Agent 0:59
Gay Dr. Caroll, gay cassandra, gay body guards, gay stairs, gay gay gay.
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Infil A 1:14*
I got stuck on the first ladder and had like 16.7 after door opening message.
The rest was fast enough for the WR (high 37 to low 38 door closed, and just after 1:00.0 last lift closed)
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Investigation SA 2:18 meh...
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G5 Agent 0:55
Infil Agent 1:19
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Defection PA 6:15 [-2:48]
Skedar A 2:42 [-7:20]
Skedar SA 3:20 [-10:10!]
Duel PA 0:15 [-0:06]
Had two decent Skedar PA runs failed at the king...need to learn to keep him pinned down better in PA. Expect next update to have PRs at Skedar PA and (hopefully) WAR! PA. Also, Defection run was played very safe, especially the bottom floor.
To answer your question Wouter, I had password issues (I attempted to make my first post before replying to my EZboard validation e-mail), which I am sure is why my post count is off by 1.
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Air Base PA - 2:49
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1:33 Ruins SA
1:46 SOS A
(1:44/45 possible, but isn't worth it point wise to go for)
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2:08 Crash Site PA - This couldn't have been a worse run. I had already lost a second by the time i hit obj. 1. I didn't switch before disarming trent. I got stuck on the big rock on the way. I MISSED THREE SHOTS OF THE MAGNUM. SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE VERY LEAST A 2:04!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
life sucks...
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Skedar PA 4:01 [-7:27]
WAR! PA 1:33
As promised.
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Air Base PA - 2:37
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Investigation A 1:49 [-0:28]
WAR! A 0:32 [-0:04]
WAR! SA 1:11 [-0:37]
Duel SA 0:08 [-0:01]
Investigation vid helped. Carried over WAR! momentum from PA.
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1:22 Crash Site A - Grr!!!
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Infil SA 1:43*
Wow, Matt's strat pwns like no other. I timed the cinema a bit earlier, on the "no" instead of "good".
41.43 shield
1:03.x lift 1 closed
1:28.x lift 2 closed (had to reopen it, missed it by a few tenths, oh well)
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1:33 Crash Site SA - Persistance pays off
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Oooh, My first leaderboard is Crash Site, tied for 8th, will improve
...and my 300th post...
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How much Crash Site have you played?
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Probably 100 hours.
J/k, great PRs, David. Very nice job.
What's your Total Mission Time, David?
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To tell the truth, not all that much, I've only been playing it really for the last week and even then at the very most an hour a day. It comes easy to me. Now to improve my extremely pathedic 2:08 PA, I missed the first 3(!) shots of the magnum on that run!
PS. My game timer is only 6 days
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Pelagic II A 2:31 [-2:41]
MBR A 2:01 [-0:21]
MBR SA 2:16 [-1:30]
MBR PA 2:21 [-1:11]
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G5 Agent 0:52.0x
Every time I jump off the ledge, I get stuck on the guard in the doorway, which makes the other guys try to set off the alarm. What's the trick to stop this?
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Infil PA 2:15*
Yay, another leaderboard and difficult PA mission out of the way. What was funny is that I was pretty close to red by the time I got the RL.
Therefore, I took my sweet time for the end.
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Deep Sea A 4:50 [-5:35]
Agent times under 5 minutes.
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Chicago PA 0:30
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1:59 SOS SA
@#%$ you wouter
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Def PA 1:42*
I missed a message skip. How the hell could I possibly @#%$ that up. Otherwise I landed on the end comp and threw the ECM mine ok and got the lift door fast.
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Pelagic II A 2:13 [-0:18]
Maian PA 13:18 [ugh]
Full set of times now.
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Def PA 1:41*
1 sec cut, yay. At least I got all the message skips this time. They are pretty easy now.
Edit: Def PA 1:35*
6 sec cut more, and I used Sucram's cinema timing which seems to work nicer. I had a 1:13 logging in message and lost 2 sec lining up for the ECM mine throw on the comp because I almost went too far.
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G5 A 0:43
bah, i can get 26.5 camspy every 20 min of play, but i cant do the end fast.. oh well
i'll get at least 0:42
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G5 A 0:42 (.40)
very nice run, 26.3 camspy, but i did the end slow.. aka, killing guards. or else i'd have 41.
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Investigation SA 3:53 [-1:38]
G5 Building A 1:18 [-0:20]
Rescue SA 4:31 [-7:09]
Pelagic II A 1:44 [-0:29]
Pelagic II SA 4:33 [-2:20]
Deep Sea SA 7:58 [-3:14]
Down to 3 SA times left over 5 minutes.
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G5 A 1:16 [-0:02]
G5 SA 1:39 [-0:54]
G5 PA 2:01 [-1:32]
Rescue A 2:33 [-1:57]
AF1 A 1:31 [-1:29]
CI A 1:33 [-0:10]
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0:53 War! SA
1:03 War! PA
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Infil Agent 1:18
bah I suck.. *sigh*
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Infil Agent 1:16.
*sigh*
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Infil Agent 1:15.
I seem to be losing 1 second upto the keycard guy alone every run. wtf am I doing wrong.
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Defection SA 0:46 - My only completion had to be a slowass run....
Rescue A 1:38 - Finally a decent 'whatever the hell that guy is'
Escape A 2:44 - Jon and Elvis need to die.
Heh, I suck too Wouter
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Defense Agent 0:55.
wtf is up with waiting 3 seconds at the end every run?
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it's normal, it's just the time that the ship takes to get out of the building or something like that.
and for infil. a, I don't know, I also suck and have 1:15
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On defense agent it waits until stupid Carrington has said everything to end the level, I think, or something like that.
Infil. a is just gay.
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Extraction Agent 0:54.
I am almost becoming gay. Anti-lesbian biatch game @#|$%
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lol Wouter.
1:59 SOS SA
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MBR:
Agent 1:42
Special Agent 1:45
Perfect Agent 1:48
I don't get the level...
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CI 0:57
Oooh, if I improve this to 56 I will have a 1000 point month
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2:25 Rescue SA, forgot to post that
35:59 SA Total Time - ownage.
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Wouter, most of the time is probably lost in the tower where the switch is. Left strafe up that ladder and hold full speed, and turn right slightly so you are facing basically perpendicular to the ladder by the time you get up there. If you time the switch right, you should change to right strafe and the left strafe and after the message fades, under 16.5 hopefully for a 1:13/1:14 shot.
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Investigation PA 6:24 [-2:43]
The Duel PA 0:13 [-0:02]
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1:14.45 Infiltration A
38.00 lift shut
All right strafe from last lift to end.
And.... 295 points!!!! 1st on the leaderboard for the first time in forever! w00t!
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Institute SA 1:39
OK, there we go, I have made over 1000 points during this month
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I read what Bryan said about infil and couldn't understand it well. Maybe wouter won't be able to either.
What i do is left strafe up and as soon as i'm no longer on the ladder i switch to only left strafe button and move to inline with the button. After i hit it i use right strafe to get out of the tower and change to left ASAP to go to the techie.
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I'm basically saying, which I didn't do on my taped 1:14, is hold full speed hitting the switch.
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Rescue PA 3:07
I thought I was going to die. About 1:23 uplink start, 2:06 when I turned on X-Ray vision, was about 2:45 in the main corridor for the last time. My health was full red at the end. And I think it was a high decimal.
That run owned. I should have taped it
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from what I remember my best getting out of the tower was when I missed calling the lift.. I was at the lift door at 36.03, is that fast enoough? I have like 38ish lift closures, and still only get 1:00 last lifts. not even low ones either. I don't get it. I heard Shade did the ending in under 14 sec sometimes.. meaning I should be able to get 1:14 with any 1:00 lift.. my best is like 1:15.3ish =\
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Under 14 is pretty standard.
I use left strafe* into the left side of the wall beside the door (not the side of the lift) and as soon as the lift has been going exactly 5.5 seconds i change to right strafe and head for the middle of the door. Use right strafe all the way from here for best results.
*May be beneficial to use right strafe
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Extraction Agent 0:57.20
AF1 Agent 0:58 - From 1:00
Now all my points are worth more than 20.
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Infiltration SA 2:00
Little slow for the lift card, as I got it near the lasers. So I couldn't activate the lift before I set the explosives, and that's what screwed me. Decent end though.
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Defense A 0:56
War! A 0:51
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nice wr there.
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Yeah, and top notch on the War A 51. I really DO wish I was as good as you.
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Infiltration SA - 1:54
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AS SA 2:47*
I had accidently taped over my 2:50, so I was pissed and yelling and such. Then I came up with this run still using the 2:50 strat that I used before, but the ending was a lot faster. (aka, the skedar at the end came out of the last door very fast)
Invest SA 2:17
For a 1:35 bot, this isn't bad, but @#%$, I get 1:38/1:39 bots pretty much every run.
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Let's see.... only a few PRs today
Extraction SA 1:46
Pelagic II SA 2:15
Pelagic II PA 2:53
Ruins A 1:22
MBR A 1:37
MBR SA 1:38
MBR PA 1:47
Now all my points are worth more than 30. I've cut over a minute today, and my total time is now 1:53:00.
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Villa A 1:32 [-0:10]
Infiltration A 1:56 [-0:25]
Attack Ship A 3:11 [-0:52]
Maian A 2:56 [-1:12]
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War PA 1:03
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Rescue SA 2:34
Invest SA 2:15.1X
I had a 1:33 bot, I had gotten 2:15 with a 1:34 before. I knew 2:14 was very possible here. I released the CamSpy perfectly and opened the doors perfectly. Then I perfectly ran into the last laser as it deactivated and bounced me back, losing almost a second.
This is what my day plan is for tomorrow:
9:00 am - Wake up, maybe have something to eat. Start playing Invest SA.
12:00 noon - Have a biscuit or something to keep myself alive. Keep playing Invest SA.
6:30 pm - Stop and have dinner
7:30 pm - Play more Invest SA
Midnight - Go to bed.
So you might not be seeing much of me tomorrow.
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Rescue A 2:20 [-0:13]
Escape A 3:23 [-0:12]
Air Base A 1:59 [-0:30]
Crash Site A 2:10 [-0:30]
Deep Sea A 4:47? [-0:03?]
CI A 1:24 [-0:09]
Skedar A 2:22 [0:20]
MBR A 1:56 [0:05]
Still don't get Deep Sea...I'm missing something fundamental there.
But, a full 2:02 off my Agent total brings it under 40:00 to 39:54. On to get SA 1:20:00 and PA 2:00:00, which will bring my total time under 4:00:00.
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Defense A 0:55 - hmmm...WR....
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extraction agent 0:53 =(
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Crash Site SA 2:37 [-1:58]
Pelagic II SA 4:30 [-0:03] forgot that I just PRed here, d'oh
Maian SA 4:25 [-6:33!]
Duel SA 0:07 [-0:01]
Passes a few benchmarks: Goal #2, SA 1:20:00, passed with a total of 1:14:47. I'll probably stick with SA to get Escape and Deep Sea below 5 minutes. Also, total time is below 4:30:00 at 4:27:24. Finally, 11 more points scored with Duel SA 0:07.
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Getting Deep Sea SA below 5:00 is actually pretty good for a new guy if you're NTSC.
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Well, it hasn't happened yet but I'm hoping I can get it.
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Chicago SA 1:53 [-0:24]
Infiltration SA 3:51 [-1:22]
Escape SA 5:33 [-1:13]
AF1 SA 2:21 [-1:08]
Deep Sea SA 7:10 [-0:48]
CI SA 2:29 [-1:33]
Skedar SA 2:52 [-0:28]
Didn't manage to get under 5 minutes on Escape or Deep Sea. I know I can get Escape, but even if I could successfully defend Elvis from up top where the 2nd teleportal is (can't do that yet), my time would still be in the mid to low 6's.
SA Total Time 1:07:51
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Defense A 0:54
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With Invest being gay, I decided to play a little PA.
Villa PA 1:49* (trouble with one of the hackers, actually 2/3 of them, bad ending because ammo was low)
AB PA 2:26 (horrible stewardess, lucky as hell to live too, taped over because it sucks)
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1:00 G5 PA
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Deep Sea SA 6:18 [-0:52]
This was my first run after discovering just how much faster Elvis runs when I stick my CMP150 up his grey alien ass...it was horrible in most respects, and I think I can pull 5:30 without too much trouble.
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Some more minor stuff here.
Rescue A 1:32*
Rescue SA 2:27*
... and a bit of major stuff as well with a solid leaderboard.
Rescue PA 3:07*
This had 2:24 talking, I've had 2:19 before, but I had to fight 10+ guards on the way back as well, which didn't last long.
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come'on guys, who's gonna get that btch under 3 ? don't let me get my n64 out =/
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Villa Agent 1:17
AF1 SA 1:27
Sniping the two guys in Villa is not easy when you have a Control Stick dead zone the size of your thumb.
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Rescue A 2:09 [-0:11]
Deep Sea SA 5:58 [-0:20]
Attack Ship SA 4:00 [-1:00]
All SA times under 6 minutes. 2 remain over 5 minutes (Escape 5:33, Deep Sea 5:58). Going to move on to PA as soon as I can parlay my SA total below 1:00:00 (current total 1:04:39).
Also, the Rescue run was not spectacular...I should be able to break 2:00 without too much trouble.
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Defense A 0:54 - 53 is hard...
Defense SA 1:34 - 1:33 run but the gayness of PD gods of randomness made me wait a while at the end
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Why do you post PRs twice?
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Do you mean my posting in the PRs and the TEH Rivaly topics? If so, it is because I'm in the TEH Rivalry so I post my times there too so they know what times of theirs I have beaten.
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You've posted 54 Defense more than once in this topic. You know, claiming times before you get them is risky business, son.
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Extraction SA 3:34 [-1:17]
Chicago SA 1:28 [-0:25]
Air Base SA 3:03 [-0:06]
AF1 SA 2:08 [-0:13]
Pelagic II SA 3:35 [-0:55]
MBR SA 2:08 [-0:08]
SA total now 1:02:35 (calculation was off by a minute in the last post).
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Infiltration Agent - 1:15.91
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BTW,
Nice sig, Tyler.
Tool owns.
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Oh, oops, when I got my 1:34 SA after my 0:54 I didn't notice I had posted my 0:54. Mistake on my part.
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SOS Agent - 1:56
Villa Agent - 1:24
Wow. I suck at this game.
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Last PR's for the day...got these in a 40-minute session.
Escape SA 5:14 [-0:19]
Air Base SA 2:29 [-0:34]
Deep Sea SA 5:48 [-0:10]
Shade's Air Base SA strat was very helpful...I didn't know the Drugspy and the lift-calling tricks.
That's another 1:03 off the SA total, very close to 1:00:00.
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SOS A 1:50
Ugh! One of the only times my cart ever has a fast lift I have to miss shutting it on the way in....
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Villa SA 1:32
Crash Site A 1:29
Crash Site SA 1:41
I thought that Villa run would be about 1:36 or 1:35 if I was lucky.
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To finish off the month, I got some ok Invest times to cap off the great month.
Invest SA 2:16* (1:34/1:35 bot)
Invest PA 3:00* (SamSim strat with some modifications, threw dragon by door before uplink since my life was 3/4 gone about, hid camspy behind those gray boxes before getting K7 so I had to waste more time moving camspy after door was unlocked) I also failed a 2:57 with camspy being destroyed. Onto Crash Site next probably.
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NO DON'T TAKE MY ONE AND ONLY CRASH SITE LEADERBOARD FROM ME PLEASE!!! eh, not even you will have an easy time beating my A/SA PRs so, uh, yeah, go ahead.
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Even if he doesn't beat your times easily, he will beat them. The man is a machine.
-Adam
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AF1 Agent - 1:01
Worth points, but barely. I think it's something like 6. I also got a few other super slow times that aren't worth anything.
G5 Agent - 1:14
Rescue Agent - 1:49
Escape Agent - 3:01
Air Base Agent - 1:40
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Crash Site Agent 1:23
Crash Site SA 1:38
Thanks for the tips, Dark0
I am playing PA at the moment, and then I will go back to SA. I failed three 2:04s for PA, BTW.
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Air Force One Agent 0:57
Area 51 Infiltration Agent 1:18
AF1 was close to a 56, I am sure. I watched Phil's Infiltration 1 15 vid, but somehow I can not get faster than 1:18.
I will pr some more for this game.
-Matthijs
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Go Matthijs!
CS A 1:23 (twice)
I guess I'll keep working on this level until I get 1:20-1:22. I can pretty much get 1:23-1:27 on any given run that obj 1 and 2 complete. Most of the time lost time comes down to the damn Pres...
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Nice job YE and Bryan on those CS times. Before I got my 1:22 I never got worse than a 1:26 and got like a bazillion 1:23s. I actually want you to get 1:22. It will give me the incentive to get a WR.
Oh, and Bryan, any tips on Defense A 0:53? I have 54 and I get in the last room at 52 or better now almost every time. Any way to make the ending faster? DMan's run had a 1 second ending.
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I'll just give you 2 major TTs that should help you monitor a chance at 53. When the 2nd lift closes, you should be under 18.7 for a chance really, and for the uplink, you want to break 38. I don't think the waiting in the end means a whole lot since I assume you strafe super fast there. I usually get there a little later and only wait 1-2 sec. I think you should go for the CS A WR. I could have easily had 1:21 on one of the runs if the Pres wasn't so gay early on. I just run backwards the whole entire time once I'm outside and take out the guard on the right if needed.
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Defense Agent 0:54 *sigh*
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Look down at the end of CI A to reduce lag.
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Extraction Agent 0:52
door upstairs didn't open well, had about 40.9ish door, 52.88 end =\
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CS A 1:22*
CS SA 1:34*
These took some time, but a lot of points to be gained here. PA is quite the bitch though. I failed a 2:00 with both end strats.
How often does the Pres complete? I think I heard somewhere that he completes about 1/20 chances.
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The prez doesn't complete often, I believe when you wait to see him at certain spots it helps, but I can't remember them. gl.
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Deep Sea SA 3:32
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Investigation SA 2:37 [-1:14!]
G5 SA 1:26 [-0:13]
Escape A 3:21 [-0:02]
Air Base A 1:38 [-0:21 i think]
CI SA 2:15 [-0:14]
I got into the laser room on Investigation in time to finish the board 1 bot cycle earlier, cutting over a minute off my SA time. With my other PR's today, that brings my SA total to:
0:59:49!
w00t!
On to Perfect Agent.
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Deep Sea PA 3:49
About 1:20 Elvis. I had only a scratch of health taken from me through the majority of the level. Great run.
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@#%!@#%!@#% Cassandra!!!
MBR Agent 1:33
MBR Special Agent 1:40
I will lower both of them.
-Matthijs
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Ok, technically I didn't get a better time but I did lower it.
Defense A 0:54.06!!! - Sooo close i pause a lot at the end to reduce lag so that is the actual decimal.
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MBR PA 1:45, I am looking for at least 1:42 or so.
Cassandra and hostages, the amount of gayness they possess doesn't differ much...
As for PA, I am not sure if I use the right strat. After you plant the bomb in the lift, I head for the lift, then I unleash the bomb spy, go in lift, then use the bomb spy, lift stops, it says obj 2 completed, lift continues, continue as normal, and then I have to wait 3-4s for the other lift to arrive. Is that the right way of doing it? Please, somebody respond!
-Matthijs
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You have it mostly right, but you shouldn't blow up the bombspy right away. Stay in the bombspy view and then blow it up as the other lift starts to move. Then you won't have as long to wait.
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P2 A 0:55*
I don't know if I should be happy about the time or not. With a 29.50 speech skip, I should have closed the deal with at worst 54, but because I don't use N-Bomb strat, a guard on the stairs @#%$ with me for 1-2 sec. Oh well.
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why dont u use the n-bomb?
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Because I throw it wrong and it makes me blurry... but I better learn it for SA/PA...
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Well, I guess it isn't a big deal to use after all.
P2 SA 1:58*
Just another solid time added to my collection. I got stuck a few times, but whatever.
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War! Agent - 0:27
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CI A 0:58
First completion going for a fast time.
Could someone please tell me the ideal time to end the cinema? And maybe some TTs if you know them?
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"Because I throw it wrong and it makes me blurry"
wtf
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G5 Agent 0:50
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Heh, I had to come up with some dumb excuse like I usually do.
P2 PA 2:29*
I had 4/5 of my life left, jeeze. That doesn't mean I want a lower time anytime soon though because the area around Elvis is a pain. I took pretty much every guard out around there.
CS PA 2:02*
- 1:22 just passed the saucer on the very right side of the rock heading back due to taking out the respawning guard
What shocked me the most about this run was that the Pres was heading the other way, or to the left side of the rock when exiting the tunnel. I just decided to keep going heading back to the tunnel on the left side of that rock as the Pres was passing on the right. (normally it's the other way around) Btw, I used the faster strat and didn't strafe a whole lot the last 20 sec of the mission really. I could see the WR going even lower than 1:56.
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G5 A - :58
G5 SA - 1:03
This is the gayest level ever concieved.
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AB PA 2:20* (it had to round up, arg, good stewardess)
Oh well, I hate this level, glad to have it done, only 1 PA level under 80 points...
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Extraction PA 4:21 [-6:00]
Crash Site PA 6:03 [-6:07]
Pelagic II PA 5:43 [-3:59]
5 times remain over ten minutes, 7 over 5 minutes.
PA Total: 2:16:37
Overall Total now below 4 hours (3:55:46).
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SOS SA 2:01
WTF, i got a 1:16 elevator close... so i theorically would have at least 2:00, or if i had a smooth end, 1:59. the last elevator closed at 1:40.20, i ended with prolly like 2:01.20.. my end seemed to be so smooth.. but im doin something wrong.
wouter or bryan or whoever, tell me whatever i may be doing wrong.. i need at least 2:00.
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Extraction PA 1:58
2nd attempt. Playing some more...
EDIT: Extraction PA 1:56
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Def SA 0:44*
This could have been 43, but I had to get stuck a couple of times in the end. The lift was closed around 17.3 (17.0 is my best) Too bad 43 is only 1 point though, not even worth the time.
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Which strat did you use? I know of three strats for Defection SA:
1. WR strat
2. Anael Raffin's video
3. Old (non glitch strat)
I got 0:45 with Anael's strat, so yeah. Works for me. What lift is the 'lift close'?
EDIT: Nevermind, Wouter told me.
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Defense SA 1:37.06 *sigh*
argh this day is bad, really bad.. first, my vcr goes totally crazy & weird. does it think it can become me or something?
anyway, it suddenly stopped recording and started rewinding while it was not at the end of the tape. then after like a minute rewinding, it just stopped and turned off. so I try another tape. it spits it out at once. wtf. I tried pulling it out the socket where it gets its energy, and back in other sockets, but no. I suppose it's dead. so I use my other own vcr now, but like you might already know, that one sucks even more for recording ntsc... I just watched the final part of my 1:37.. it seems clearer than before, but it still has grey "flies" like every 5 seconds for a second or 2. fatherfucking bad luck.
oh well, about the run.. this level is so shitty (so far).. I sucked so much that I had a 1:00 2nd lift or so, and obj 2 hardly EVER completes =\ and then I think I had a slow ending.
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Defense SA 1:35
OMG this was so bad I lost a big 4 seconds upto the 1st lift closed =\
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Defense SA 1:32
I don't get it, this was a 1:15 uplink =\
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I used the old no glitch strat. I assume Dark Master just did the start like I did to Cass and then went to top of building and glitched 37 style? Maybe not, anyways...
Villa A 1:13*
1:12 is surely max for me here. I had a 54 door after obj 2, which I dunno what that can get, probably 1:11 if I didn't suck so bad in the end...
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I don't know how you did the start,but I use the glitch to go to cass,and then I go to the top of the building to re-glitch
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Isn't that the WR strat?
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yes it is.. unless he does somethin different.
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Nah,I just wanted to answer to "I assume Dark Master just did the start like I did" from Bryan
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Well I was thinking that you did the start without glitching and then after Cass, glitched the top of the building to edge out the 43. Maybe 43 isn't possible that way though.
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In DarkMaster's vid he lands outside Cass's office and goes inside. The WR strat involves landing on top of the cheese room.
Both then go up to the top and re-glitch, etc.
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Villa SA 1:25*
This ties w00ter, so I'm happy.
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Bryan... with a 54 door you should at least be able to get 1:11, I think even 1:10. you should really work on your villa endings. I had like a 55.7 door for my 1:12.
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Villa A 1:12* (54 door again, man I suck at the end)
Chicago PA 0:30* (bad bombspy area, sweet mine throw to edge it out though, 1 more shot would have killed me)
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Chicago SA 0:31
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1:42 Infil SA
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bryan what's ur tt when u activate the generator? mine is usually mid 51 (best is like 51.3).. i never check the door tt, so plz take a look at that.
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Nice shade, If you get the record before i send ntsc (one day in the next 5 days) I'll have to play it few a few hours in succession.
Also, greg K, Do you have a vid made for G5 PA 59? I'd like to see it.
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I'm pretty sure I got a 50/51 generator, but my endings suck so much that I lose up to 2 sec. I should be able to get 1:10.
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Enclosing the PAL Wrs for this level:
MBR SA 1:36
MBR PA 1:44
I will try some more for this level.
-Matthijs
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Defense PA 2:00 =\
I used Ben's 1:56 strat.
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matt: unfortunaly when i got the 59 i couldnt tape the way my 64 is hooked.. just found out how yesterday, cuz shade told me.
bryan: check ur generator tt.. if u can activate it with 50, u can get even 1:09.. for the end, u have to kill the guards really fast, u barely aim at them.. watch karl's 1:11 (mid 52 generator), his end is amazing.
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Ok, I'll check my real A/SA generator TTs by tonight. I assume it's the moment you activate it and not when the obj complete appears.
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0:55 CI A
1:40 CI SA
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MBR A 1:26*
MBR SA 1:31 (want lower)
Anyways, my Villa A generator was 50.9, and my Villa SA generator was 1:01.7.
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*cracks knuckles* Time to get into this bad boy.
Infil SA 2:13
Air Base PA 3:17
Both pretty much first completions trying to go any sort of fast. Also, I think my Air Base strat I was using is a slow one. Need vids or something.
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50.9? that's 1:11 for sure. i did 1:11 with a 51.7 generator, so my end was kinda slow.. but ur end must be really slow. u must work on that bryan.. 1:10 will be cake after u manage how to do a fast end.
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Greg, if it's not any trouble, can you make a vid of any G5 time (maybe 103 or below though; depends what you can get easily)... Just as long as you demonstrate all your strats for each part I'm happy. Doesn't matter if you do it slow. I've never clicked with this level, but i want to! *not for a while though, i'm on a break and i'm sticking to it*
In case people have an interest in knowing, my next levels to play are: G5 (just for 85 pointers) and ...... the big one...
Rescue PA
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MBR PA 1:33*
Heh, I initially had a bad Cass so after I closed the brown door on her before the stairs, she turned good.
To top that, I miserably miss the last guard outside and get N-bombed.
SA is quite the bitch still, another 1:31.
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well, a vid of G5 is kinda hard.. i'll see with knuckles (which friend's captured my 1:29 AF1, 3:37 AS, etc) if his friend can capture my stuff, so i get 1:01 or 1:00 on tape. but prolly not.. then i have to send my tape to someone whose names starts with W
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*stands ready with hands open waiting for 100 tapes to fly in*
yeah, put all the proof possible on the tapes, I'd be happy to capture it all. I don't care if it's 100 hours of proof
as long as you got good wrs and stuff on it aswell =)
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Institute SA 1:31.30
this was lame.. comparing my tt's with bryan's or shade's, im at least 0.5 slower at the beginning. i also was slow to kill guards at RCP room.. the 1st elevator door closed at 43.80, that's all i remember (i didnt tape it).. is that any good?
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omfg
Institute SA 1:30.95*
43.70 1st elevator closed
1:14.75 uplink (yeah that's right, .75)
i found out what i was doin wrong at the beginning, so i got some 43.20 elevator closes... im going to get 1:30 now
edit: useless to say that this run rounded up to 1:31
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God, now 1:30 is going to be a common record like 53 soon.
Anyways, to even out my MBR times nicely, I got...
MBR SA 1:30*
Damn, she has to spin at the end to cost me the 1:29 and the tie of Karl. I think I'm done with the level for good though unless something else comes up. AS agent will be next, hopefully I can get the 4 sec time saver to work there and get 2:19ish.
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it seems that wouter will get 1:30 also (well, i hope to).. he'll find out what he's doin wrong at the level very soon. so there'll be 4 (!) guys with 1:30.. it's a damn good time still
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Defense SA 1:31.20
I guess I'll play it some more.. had 54.9 lift and like 1:15 exact upload I guess. I still used cloaking, but there were loads of guards, I'd been killed otherwise anyway. Obj 2 was slow as usual.
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AS A 2:17*
Wow, this time is sweet, NTSC WR tie with DMan, 11 points, 6 sec cut, now 4th place on leaderboard.
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what's the 4s timesaver u mentioned upthere, bryan? i need to improve my 2:21 also.
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It's just basically having the last skedars being the fastest possible, like on Karl's 2:14 vid. I had a 1:31 lift closed and timed the cinema on "company". (it sounded like "comp" the way I timed it) Also, I think I had around a 46 1st lift closed.
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tried a lil bit on AS A.. got 2:22 first try (44 1st elevator, 1:58 elvis), then elvis didnt complete the obj 2 anymore.. do u have any tips for elvis completing it more often?
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I have him complete almost every run (80%) that I have a 46 or higher lift (usually do). I go in a little farther in the obj 2 room, closer to those skedar taking them out so that could help him complete faster too. I look back at him before the lift closes and usually don't have him talk to me.
Villa PA 1:47*
I want 1:45 or lower since I was stuck pretty much all over.
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hum thx bryan.. im working on that time now.
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AB PA 2:41, thanks to shade and bryan.
I can probably get 10-12 seconds lower at this point in my skill-development cycle, but for now it's on to different levels to come back to this one later on with a vengence (and more skill).
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0:16 Chicago A
1:27 Crash Site A
Blah, blah.
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Crash Site PA 2:01
About a week ago I played this level for a whole day without one damn completion. Today I played it for 30 mins and got this. The best I had done before was failed 2:04's.
I saw a guard on the ledge near the end who was running away from me. He went around a corner so I didn't fire at him. I went around the corner to see him fall off the ledge and into the pit
But then I almost got killed and got over it.
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Villa PA 1:42*
That's much better. I now tie Wouter all the way on Villa.
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Attack Ship PA 6:22 [-3:54]
I'm not dead, just working 38 hours a week and doing other @#%$ (plus, Diablo II 1.10 beta is out!)
EDIT: small improvement.
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MBR
A 1:37
SA 1:43
PA 1:46
All points on this level are dedicated to the Boss, for basically telling me everything to do w/ it, and KS's vids also helped. Still going to get lower someday.
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I've only just started...
Villa A - 1:43
Heck the PA record beats that.
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heck even my legit time beat that
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AF1 PA 1:31*
It's a good time, but not with a 51.95 cinema.
I got stuck for a sec on one of those doors that lag pretty bad, think the 3rd door on your way back on the middle floor. I had no guards to deal with either.
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Investigation PA 6:01 [-0:23]
Institute A 1:17 [-0:07]
The Investigation run should be a 5:30, at least...I missed the lift coming back up in the Avenger room and lost a full 20-30 seconds. Also, played it safe through much of the level, including shooting all 3 drone guns at the end.
Institute should be a 1:05, missed the door glitch and had to go around the far corner in the firing range to kill the 2nd guard.
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War A 28 SA 55... wooooo! hooray for points!
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0:57 Extraction A
1:16 Villa A
1:37 Rescue A
2:40 Escape A
1:16 Infiltration A
1:35 MBR A
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Infiltration PA 2:21
The techie fell down the hole so I had to call the lift after setting the explosives. I killed a few bastards while I waited for the lift to arrive.
I never saw the last lift open, so I injured the bastard next to it and called it. I turned around to finish off the bastard when the lift opened (almost instantly). So I said "Screw this bastard" and jumped in the lift.
All guards on Infiltration are bastards
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Invest SA 2:15*
I think I had a 1:32/1:33 bot, but I don't know for sure which because I barely made the lasers at all.
11 more much-needed points.
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Some newbie/who-cares PR's.
Villa A 1:34
Infiltration A 2:09
Institute A 1:36
Chicago A :19
Extraction A 1:18.
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I forgot to post this: Ruins PA 2:05
Gay run, will improve. I failed a 1:56. If I get a decent time then I'll have to play SA as well.
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Defense PA 1:56
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Defection SA 0:59 [-0:28]
Defection PA 4:29 [-1:46]
Investigation PA 4:33 [-1:28]
Institute A 1:02 [-0:15]
Very happy with these (still crappy, yes I know) PRs. Institute, used both combat boosts, got the door trick, clean by my standards. Defection times are still glitch-free. Investigation, hit the lift in the K7 room on the way down at about 1:18, got to the lasers at 2:48 or so with a few seconds to spare, 1 whole bot cycle earlier than my PR, to get that 4:33. BTW, it's worth a whole *5 points*!
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AB SA 1:47*
- mid-high 41 door and mid-high 1:19 lift closed, had trouble getting a dragon after case, probably not a good ending to Shade's standards
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ok, I'm gone I will probably be back to get all the pd wrs next year. good luck everyone. I am the GE master.
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Go Wouter!
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yeah, get back to kicking the crap out of ge.
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OMFG
MBR PA 1:33
($&$(&*$(*& stupid fuckin level.. everything went so smooth, but i had to screw up something.. i got stuck 2 SECONDS at the last ramp after cass went to the helipad.. omfg im so @#%$ dumb. i'll improve this now..
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Extraction A 1:08
Stupid Cassandra slut gets in the way in the doors at the end.
Villa A 1:26
Must be taking the wrong route or something...
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Skedar Ruins PA 1:58 - Took 5 minutes to get.
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Infiltration SA 1:49
1st try - Shut the first lift on myself and didn't notice. Wasted about 10 seconds.
2nd try - Would have made the 1st lift but a guard shot me and made me go near the switch, got stuck.
3rd try - Had to re-open lift, wasted about 5 secs.
4th try - Perfect, except I had to re-open the last lift (1:49)
Not that anyone cares. Next time I play this, I might try going to the toilet during the opening cinema.
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MBR PA 1:32*
bah im done with it.. even if cass got stuck for 1s at the end, it's ok. took me 2h30 of play.. i'll move to A/SA later.
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AB A 1:17* (.7ish)
This seriously took me about 10 minutes after I got the hang of deploying the Drugspy. The only things I feel I messed up were the beginning as usual (20.6 door...) and the ending was a little slow to activate lasers I would reckon.
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"Villa A 1:26
Must be taking the wrong route or something... "
Lenny
You can't be 4th everywhere
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Well unless 1.1 is really that slow, I really must be taking the wrong route!
Investigation A 1:38
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Air Force One PA 1:37
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Villa A 1:23
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Escape PA 6:09
First PA completion.
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0:54.43 Extraction A (PAL)
I think I'll make the vid of this quite sweet run
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1.1 =/= 1.2 pretty much. You're not taking the wrong route, you probably suck at the end, like me.
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A bunch of these agent times are first completions for speed so they suck, but at least I don't have anymore N/A's in the agent column.
Defection - 0:33
Extraction - 1:07
Chicago - 0:25
Infiltration - 1:33
Crash Site - 1:42
Pelagic 2 - 1:15
Deep Sea - 3:43
CI - 1:03
Attack Ship - 2:56
Skedar - 2:02
MBR - 1:55
War - 0:32
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If that defection time is with no glitch, it's damn good.
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Rescue PA 7:52 [-6:30]
Deep Sea PA 7:19 [-4:59]
Institute PA 3:02 [-2:16]
Skedar PA 2:46 [-1:15]
Ummm...first completions for speed on Rescue, Deep Sea, Institute. Gets me the last of my cheats (ha). Institute was with the fast(er) method of turning on the drone guns, finally, instead of going all the way around.
If only I can complete a half-decent run on Maian PA...
PA Total Time: 1:54:06
Overall Total Time: 3:32:25
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Villa Agent - 1:18!!!!!
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Yeah, the defection time was with the glitch. It was the first time I actrally managed to land on the ground floor, which explains it's suckiness. I did manage to get a blazing fast 28 later today.
I have a lot of practice ahead of me.
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One more "pointful" time to end a decent PA day for me.
Duel PA 0:11 [-0:02]
Umm...taking my ten steps from Trent my timer was at 7.00. I can see 10 on PA, and maybe 6 on SA. Keep you posted.
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Crash Site PA 2:00
took me 20 min, missed one shot at the end.. oh well. i might get the wr someday, sounds easy than i thought. a 7s cut and 11 pts gain
yea i just passed Phil.. hurray. next victim: Paragon
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Invest A 1:31*
Well this solidifys my leaderboard there much more, and 8 nice agent points. Also, it was a 50 bot, well pretty sure anyway because the next set was down before 55.
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WAR! SA 0:49
didnt get that door opened on the way back after the 1st king, but it was an ok run.. no huge stuck. i think i'll get 48 sometime.
if i did the math correctly.. i passed paragon
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Go Vitor! I think you indeed have passes Ben, and will become 3rd next update....you know what I promissed eh?
anyway, some PRs:
MBR PA 1:42, quite sweet, yet the @#%@#%@#% had to run back at the last ramp.
G5 SA 1:05
G5 PA 1:22
I am busy finishing SA right now!
-Matthijs
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Extraction Agent - 1:04
Escape Agent - 2:54
War Agent - 0:29
Well, at least I'm improving.
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Ext PA 1:45*
I'm happy with this mainly because nothing major went wrong with the run. On the other hand, I did blow a 1:44 run where I only missed 1 body guard from the first set near the comp.
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Extraction Agent - 0:59
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Defection Agent - 0:20. I can pull off the initial glitch but I can't land anywhere near the elevator.
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Defense SA - 1:32
Defense PA - 2:00
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1:47 Ruins PA
I finally managed to do the gay jump and not mess up the end.(or maybe I did mess up the end but I still got that time
).
This took me like 2 hours today. I still can't do the jump constantly. In all, I think I got it like not more than 10 times today (not all on good runs, most of them were on failed runs I continued). Still worth a nice 90 pts (11 pts more for me)
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Many thanks, SamSim.
Defection A 0:16 [-0:27]
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Air Base Agent - 1:28. I'm surprised this is worth points, but hey, I'm not complaining.
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CI SA 2:00 [-0:15]
Shitty.
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Villa A 1:21
Villa SA 2:05
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War A 0:27!!
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Maian SOS A 2:07
Can't seem to catch that bloody lift in time.
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Escape A 3:10
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Defection A :29
First completed run with Ben's glitch.
EDIT: 21
EDIT: 18
And in other news... I just got what Sucram means... eheh..
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sucram-marcus. yay.
If you can't make the maian A lift but want about 1:57, just watch all of the cinema.
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I already put the fact that ya'll already knew, into consideration, so don't think that I'm saying I was the first to find out.
Investigation SA 3:32
My time before this was 22 minutes.
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War Agent - 0:28
The run was like my 29, except a lot smoother.
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Nice 27 YE, it sure took you long enough
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0:29 Chicago SA
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Rescue SA 2:26*
I just can never seem to get everything to go right on this level. Anyways, I had a 1:46-1:47 guard speaking.
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Ext A - :55
Ext SA - 1:45
bah
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Ext SA - 1:42
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Defection A :17
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Chicago SA 0:58 [-0:30]
G5 A 1:04 [-0:12]
Escape PA 5:31 [-3:16]
Maian PA 7:21 [-5:57]
Second completion ever on Maian PA. Escape run was decent, all others still need plenty of work.
Total Time below 3:30:00.
Race you to #1, Lenny >:-)
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*Puts on Datadyne guard voice*
Bring it on!
Defection A :16
Forgot to uncrouch during the fall.
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Ruins Agent - 1:18
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Air Base Agent - 1:25
Along with some other times not worth mentioning.
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These aren't really worth mentioning, but eh...
all times are agent
Crash Site - 1:37
Deep Sea - 3:40
Villa - 1:23
Ruins - 1:44
Attack Ship - 2:54
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Chicago SA :40
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Infil SA 1:41* (.85)
I had about a 1:16 at the bottom of the ramp, so I had basically no chance at the last lift, but for reopening it, this was a pretty nice ending to watch for the lag that exists.
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Why not lookdown?
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Chicago SA :35
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SOS A 2:03
Chicago PA :41
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*wishes i still had ntsc to combat bryan*
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Duel SA :7
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JugadorJ3: *pr'd*
YourElitenessPD: Cool. Which level?
JugadorJ3: 46 G5 A
JugadorJ3: 2 - 3 seconds stuckage
JugadorJ3: and i shoot the guards near the alarm
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Haha, saves having to write it out again.
Defection PA was one of my levels today. I had a great run, landed on the glass near the computer then fell off
Also in another run I got stuck next to the cheese, as the programmer was logging in. So, no PRs today.
I also played G5 SA and PA, no PRs there either
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Defection A :15
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*brings it on*
Villa PA 4:52 [-1:42]
Infiltration PA 6:41 [-7:39]
Infil PA was the last of my times over 10 minutes...indeed, the last over 8 minutes. There's still plenty of work to be done on PA, though...
Perfect Agent Total: 1:35:30
Total Time: 3:12:25
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Escape SA 3:38* (37-38 ending, arg, around 1:53 Jon)
Escape PA 3:44* (again, around 36-37 sec ending, 2:00 Jon)
P2 SA 1:55* (pretty good run, but I got stuck on a door or two and a couple of guards, my personal best of 25 sec panel!)
Invest PA 2:57* (still not Paragon method, but I think I got a bad bot because I maybe lost 3 to 5 sec tops)
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It's called the "DarkestMatt" method, buddy. Learn it.
45 G5 A. 29.5 camspy, shot guards at alarm... fairly mediocre. I think i can get 43.
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Personally I would have to say that "Matt's Method" sounds much better
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touche. Not really the point though
meh, to make the post more useful, soon i've have 54 G5 SA.
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54 G5 SA
easiest. pr. ever.
Got it first run i made it past the 2nd cloaked room... slow after that.
Note to all: Get out your cmp /as soon as/ you've detonated.
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2:16 SOS PA
Easiest PR ever, took like 10 minutes. Must be all that sa playing.
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0:54 CI Agent (PAL)
Pal wr, I'll capture this one for certain!
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nice one Graham!
Maian Sos agent 1:44, first time I made it to that elevator
Main Sos SA 2:27, what a bad run...
-Matthijs
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Invest PA 2:54*
Better, but I had some major stuckage on one of those dragon guards heading back from shield. I was lucky to live at all.
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Investigation A 1:42 [-0:07]
Extraction A 1:13 [-0:40]
Chicago SA 0:47 [-0:11]
Air Base PA 3:55 [-3:32]
Approaching points on many of these. Air Base was shitty, but first completion for speed...and I finally read up on why I was losing so much time in Extraction A.
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G5 A 0:44* (want 43, killed alarm guards)
G5 SA 0:52* (got stuck exiting safe for 1-2 sec)
G5 PA 1:04* (I did a reload at the start which probably wasn't needed, 2 sec lost)
Karl's strat > all
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OMG. Rescue Agent 1:32. First completion. BTW, NTSC is here...
EDIT: Rescue SA 2:31 (I keep writing 1:31, so forgive me!)
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War SA - 0:56
War PA - 1:15
Attack Ship A - 2:39
CI A - 1:02
MBR A - 1:50
Infiltration A - 1:27
P2 A - 1:14
Got a few points with some of these, but not many.
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Air Force One PA 1:33
Could be heaps better. I reloaded when trying to open the door at the bottom of the step-ladder. That level is fun with NTSC.
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The Course Today is:
"How to screw a run 101"
I'd like to introduce you to Shade who will tell you everything needed to screw a run.
First of all, you must be in a really really good run, WR being possible. Then what you have to do is very simple. Just screw in a wall, guard, door. Whatever fits your mind and stick there for 1sec. You think you didnt screw enough? Just screw in the lift's door, it works perfectly I can tell you. And then just complete the run normally and finish with a beautiful
1:54 Infil PA.
@#%$ this level.
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HOW TO SCREW A 42 RUN
Well I did just that, by not pulling out the CMP in the end and getting stuck like no one else has in the history of G5 (like 5 sec). I saw the clock at around 42.8 when the explosion went off.
Anyways, maybe it would have rounded up so not a big deal.
G5 A 0:43*
- 27.06 camspy, 37 something (low I think) cinema
- had to open door after alarm
- still took out alarm guards
- kinda slow getting decoder out
- whatever
- done with G5 now
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@ shade
1:54 is still a good time tho.. i wish i had that.
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Maian sos a 1:42, nice, but I could get 1:40 or even the WR with some more effort. Catching that 2nd elevator is really easy for now I mastered that crouching part.
Maian sos sa 2:25, I can not reach that elevator in time. Where do I need to cut the first scene? And, can someone give me some TTs?
And what is Karl's strat for G5? Landing on guard's head?
-Matthijs
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well.
3:30 Deep Sea PA, 7secs cut.
1:42:38...to 1:42:31...ahead of Px9?!?
HurraY!!!
NTSC only... tititititit
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No Shade, you need to open the lift as it's going to close at 1:35.5.
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1:06 G5 PA.
I ask, is it possible to finish a run on this level and not spit at your time as it flashes on the screen? Everything always goes wrong for me.
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I'm still waiting for someone to get stuck on the door at the END of infiltration.
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matt: yea the level is just gay.. even on my 0:59 i screwed up something. after u master the first 2 rooms, it's a matter of time to get a good pr or wr.
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Villa PA 1:41*
this run really sucked.. my start was 3s worse than my best, and my end was stupid. going for better..
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44.15 G5 A
27.9 camspy, got stuck skipping the guards, mediocre finish. Must get 43.
*does anyone know the target for putting the decoder on needed for 43?* I can get 34 on fails.
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MBR A 1:35 NTSC
Pathetic, yes. Will improve, yes. Sometime soon, maybe. I plan to attempt SA and PA yet. I still have to master NTSC speech skipping because it unpauses a fraction of a second later then PAL, which screws me up.
EDIT: MBR PA 1:39
EDIT 2: MBR SA 1:31!! Time to play Agent again.
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On my 43, I had like like low 36 decoder and low 37 cinema because of moving the camspy. You should go for 42 at least.
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Infil A 1:17
MBR A 1:34
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I would switch the smileys.
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AF1 0:55*
(.86)
Booyah, I really wanted this time. I had a 26.06 cinema and 45 door. You lie Shade about 42-43 doors.
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Before I forget about these garbage PR's...
Extraction A 1:12 [-0:01]
Deep Sea A 4:42 [-0:05]
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go 42-43-44 doors! Owned!!
Edit: Well actually 42 door is a bit off I guess. 43 doors happened a lot, no matter what you say... midhigh 43.
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Extraction A 0:55
Extraction SA 1:45 - That sucks. I will play PA later, then move on to CI A or something.
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I got those 34 decoders with low 28 camspies... If karl can get 25.6... where is our 38???
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Maian SOS SA 2:08
My PAL record is 2:09. I failed a 2:06 because I died about 0.25 secs before the level ended. More practice needed.
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42 G5 A
28 camspy (low i expect)
Late 35 decoder planting
w000000000000000000000000000000000000000000t!
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Extraction PA 1:53
Time for CI A.
EDIT: CI A 0:54.85 - Rounded down. Now I will search everywhere for TTs, then get 0:53.
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They aren't hard to find. Just check WR discussion topic for them. I know for sure GregK posted TTs.
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Yeah, I found them. Page 8 of the WR discussion topic.
CI SA 1:33 - First attmpt.
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Air Force One SA 1:26
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Escape A 2:31*
Meh, I had like 1:56 talking, but a 35 ending is about my personal best still, haha. I had trouble pushing Jon like I always do and didn't get to comp until the music started so a sec thrown away there.
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Chicago PA 0:48 [-0:55]
Deep Sea PA 5:22 [-1:57]
Happy with both of these. Perfect Agent total drops below 1:30:00 to 1:29:06...I think I'll turn my attention back to A and SA for the most part, for the time being.
Total Time: 3:04:57
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Chicago A 0:21 [0:06]
Escape A 3:07 [-0:14]
Air Base A 1:33 [-0:05]
AF1 A 1:09 [-0:22]
AF1 SA 1:41 [-0:27]
CS A 2:05 [-0:05]
Pelagic II A 1:30 [-0:14]
Deep Sea A 4:28 [-0:14]
Maian A 2:31 [-0:25]
WAR! A 0:31 [-0:01]
Good runs through a lot of boards. Starting to get the hang of speech skips, a little bit, but I still need plenty of work in that area.
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MBR Agent - 1:42
MBR SA - 1:51
MBR PA - 1:59
I guess it lowers my total time by a little...
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00A? Played a little too much GE lately, huh?
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YE, the last lift on SOS is just random.. takes a while to catch a good one.
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Ok then. I guess I'll have to play it some more.
EDIT: Maian SOS PA 2:19. I'm done on this level for now.
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G5 PA 1:51 [-0:10]
Infiltration SA 3:26 [-0:05]
Escape SA 4:54 [-0:20]
AF1 PA 2:35 [-0:44]
Maian SA 3:26 [-0:59]
WAR! SA 1:01 [-0:10]
Total Time 3:00:14.
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G5 PA 1:08
10 seconds cut, was hoping for 1:14.
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Investigation Agent 1:31(.91)
G5 Agent 0:48
G5 SA 0:56
Pelagic II Agent 1:01
I hate this level
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G5 A - :55
Yes, laugh at me please.
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G5 A - :50
G5 SA - :59
G5 PA - 1:16
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Air Base A 1:19
If you throw the Dragon directly underneath the glass, the glass doesn't break. If you throw it to the left, it does. Very weird. I was testing this and threw it an insane distance to the left (almost aborted because is was so far), but the glass still broke.
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Investigation Agent - 1:31
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I got bored of playing Invest A today, so I popped in my proof tape which Matt has recorded some runs on. Mostly Attack Ship, I'm tempted to play that again once I get bored of NTSC. But I saw some Escape PA runs which were almost exactly like mine (reloading in the same places, same tricks, etc). I think it's Matt's though, I don't remember taping any Escape PA. But anyway, that led me to give Escape PA a go, and after 5 minutes, I got 3:50.
Door near the mines - 0:29
Talk to Jon - 0:58
Medipack decides to work - 2:55
I had 1:45 as I approached the door to the room where Jon plants the explosives. I was then bombarded with messages and couldn't see the TT for when the horrible music started.
Those are the only TTs I remember.
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I don't remember playing any Escape:-/ If you say it's there then it is though. Don't rely on the strat i used... i mustn't have been going for a good time if i didn't get one / don't remember it.
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Escape SA 3:48
MBR A 1:25!
This could have been the world record, but I double tapped B at the last door and got stuck while holding it open, therefore blocking Cass's path. I speech skipped both lines too (quite hard for me on NTSC).
41.7 disarm Cass
About :50 enter door at bottom of stairs
About 1:00 at base of the first ramp (indoors)
I think it was 1:17 at the base of the first outside ramp.
EDIT:
I've made the MBR leaderboard! (My first one!)
Total Agent time is now 25:59
Total time is now 1:49:09
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Escape Agent - 2:33
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G5 PA - 1:13
btw, nice job on mbr YE. It's probably not a bad thing you double tapped the door though, because it decreases the chances of her talking if you wait a little bit there.
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Pelagic II A 1:21 [-0:09]
Skedar SA 2:49 [-0:03]
Maian A 2:09 [-0:21]
2:59:42
woot.
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MBR PA 1:34
This level is fun. I get most of my PRs in the first five minutes of playing.
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hm.. gj at MBR, YE. go for the agent WR.. takes time but it's worth it. i guess.
anyway.. pd is so boring for me now.. im playing at least 4h of TFC per day, im getting really good at it and stuff.. the only level that i fell like playing is escape SA. played some today.. got a few 1:50 jon's (some could've been 1:48 if he wasnt gay). the medpack was fast once, hurray.. but then elvis was TOTALLY gay and i got a 3:37. this week i'll be out (brazilian meeting), and im hoping to get something like 3:29 on escape.. but whatever, i wont get it anyway
be back next week
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Yeah, I'm going for the WR, and would already have it, but I still need to practice NTSC speech-skipping.
Extraction Agent 0:54.08
Better than 0:55, I guess. I couldn't see anything wrong with this run.
EDIT: Small emoticon error, and...
I've discovered a new trick in MBR. I ran up to Cass and punched her in the face, then paused to speech-skip Mr. Blonde's line. I heard nothing so waited a few secs, unpaused and paused again. I heard his "Go-", meaning I'd missed it. So I got angry and punched Cass in the face again, and to my shock Mr Blonde stopped his line and Cass said hers.
This might work anywhere with any line, but the person who you're speaking to must be of 'enemy' status, I think.
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Air Base SA - 1:53
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Extraction PA - 1:54
Investigation PA - 4:17
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Villa A - 1:16
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Villa SA - 1:37
Godamned snipers.
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Villa SA - 1:37
Godamned snipers.
P.S.: I hate this level.
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G5 Sa 0:50
Not too shabby. I'll get the WR for sure. Fear me also when i start to actually skip the alarm guards.
35.01 camspy
shot alarm guards
shoddy end - could have been 49 for sure.
I have this taped and i'm going to capture it... I think i might do stuff different to others... I haven't seen an SA vid for yonks.
edit: on careful review of the vid, i see that i skipped the alarm guards, but got stuck on the stairs guard for a second. I'll have to start skipping them all the time if i want a good time
Though I'll stand by at least 49 being possible w/o skipping them. (duh)
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Visualise a perfect Invest PA WR strat run:
1. All experiments are the first ones you activate
2. Jo doesn't tell the angry scientist to turn off his experiment (and hence no alarm being activated)
3. Not getting shot until leaving the last experiment room.
4. Making the lasers with 2 - 3 seconds to spare.
That happened to me. I got shot once leaving the last room, I felt like Neo in the Matrix, dodging all the bullets and stuff. Anyway, I connected to the PC, took the CamSpy photo and waited for the Door Unlocked message. I got shot maybe once or twice while waiting in CamSpy mode. After it appeared, I exited the CamSpy, strafed to the left and hit B to open the door. I missed it. Didn't notice until about 1.5 seconds later when I tried to go through it. Wasted another few seconds opening it (got shot HEAPS more), and got through with almost full red health.
I'm thinking "I'm gonna die I'm gonna die I'm gonna die" as I ran into the room with Dragon guards. They all fired, I freaked but kept my aim on the door. I entered the corridor to the shield tech room. I killed the first guard easily, and went to the door. I killed the guard on the right but the guard on the left ran towards me. So I ran past him to continue on (and avoid being punched) but he shot me in the back and I died. My end time was 2:30, and I estimate that I would have picked up the shield tech item at that time. It looks like it would take 16 seconds to get the the end, so my time would have been 2:46, tying Matt's.
TTs
Wooden door - 0:21
First door to main corridor - 0:29
Released from lift - 0:48
Main corridor after deactivating first experiment - 1:05
Enter last experiment room - 1:20
3rd last door to lasers - 1:35
First laser down - 1:39
Go through first laser - 1:40
Uplink complete - 2:05
Questions
Is there any way to make the guards open the wooden door consistently?
When an alarm is activated, no matter how fast I turn it off, the CamSpy is always destroyed. Any advice? (Karl did his failed run with an alarm being activated)
Any help on making Joanna shut up when it comes to talking to the angry scientist?
Useless Facts
Most of my runs end up being aborted at the wooden door.
I find it easier to speed strafe (not breaking strafe) from the lift through to the first experiment room, and maybe fire if the door opens in front of you. I barely get shot.
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Villa Agent - 1:14
Pelagic II SA - 2:06
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P2 PA 2:24*
This does put me in 4th place at least.
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I like cake.
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Time to start playing Invest PA, Matt. These are details for my run...
Made the lasers with a bit over half health.
Uplink guys shot me once, my health was now half.
Third-last guy to the shield tech item decided to roll so I couldn't kill him
I was slow killing the next two guys and only killed the one on the right.
Pulled out Dragon, got shield tech item, ran back and wounded both of them.
Stupid bastard in the main room shot my health into the red.
Same bastard shot me again when I was in the autogun room, almost full red.
Didn't get shot by autoguns.
End time = 2:44.00
I got this literally 10 minutes after waking up. Now I give to you...
How to Screw a 2:12 Invest SA Run in Three Easy Steps
1. Play the level as normal, but get a 1:31 bot
2. Forget to do the CamSpy trick (2 secs lost, 1 sec for each door)
3. Bring out the uplink just before opening the 3rd door past the lasers, which makes the door not open upon first B-pressing (understand?)
End Time = 2:15.36
I shouldn't have played this after PA, I forgot about the SA tricks
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I like cake, too.
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I like cake, as well.
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105 g5 pa...
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500! Nice one nemmy
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five oh one
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omg liek five oh too