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Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 07, 2007, 06:21:00 am
It has been a time I had thought of it, but today it is for real. Let me present to you

The Goldeneye World Record Database

Well, you're probably wondering what this is. Actually, the first idea was to be able to recreate the WR table at any date, and this is the actual biggest feature, which you can do here (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/). Of course, it was impossible to recreate the complete rankings because this would imply knowing every PR of anyone in the elite, and finding WR was hard enough. But I added the rankings based on the number of records instead, and the ability of displaying a list of WRs for each level.

I'd like here to thank Come for the support, especially with some boards names I didn't know (now the only one left is Deku Sprout Is Back if I'm not mistaken), and also for supplying me with a set of old WRs I didn't have.

The future of this base is not well defined, but any suggestion here would be welcome. I don't say I'm gonna spend much time on it soon, but I'll probably have some time this summer for it. For example, I thought I could include Boss' pages (see here (http://www.geocities.com/bbosshardt007/GE_Longest_Standing_WRs/)  for the longest lasting records, and there (http://www.geocities.com/bbosshardt007/GE_Untied_Data/) for some untied date) with the same kind of thing for the date, or automate the computation of some statistics.
The big advantage is that updating is limited to enter the new WRs for all the pages. See for instance here (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/forcome.php) for the kind of page we can make.

Please, keep in mind that this is an alpha version. Actually, there may be some mistakes on some dates/times. Also I noticed that some WR were missing due to the fact they were never posted in the WR topic (For example Wouter, there aren't your Caverns SA 1'23 and your Caverns A 1'03; Jared Kirkness' Depot Agent 26 is also missing, etc.); so please, if you find a mistake or know the date of a missing time, post it here so that I can correct/add it...

Concerning the dates, the rankings are based on when the records were set, when the dates were available (otherwise, I took the date of the post). I also considered (and entered) the dates when they were posted, but it seems that it's not very useful after all...(so for instance, both dates are actually in the base, but I may delete the "post" date in the future).

So yeah, making this was kinda boring since the main task consisted in entering all the WRs in the base, but the good part was to read the complete descriptions of the runs, since at the time it was still a habit to do so. I also found funny posts: for example, Bosshardt getting Dam A 53 in 45 minutes and Depot A 27 in 1 hour, (as well as two other records), and then editing his post to tie a Peter's untied the day it was done :)
But the one I found the most funny of all was Wouter getting Bunker 1 Agent 17. When I read that, I couldn't agree more :D
Here is the post:

Bunker 1 Agent 0:17

FINALLY!!!!!! no more 18s whoa!!!! this took like 2 full weeks, what a relief at last!!!

good riddance to all the 18s which would have gotten in the wr topic otherwise!


:lol

Also I didn't know that at the beginning, so many people were reluctant to believe in Wouter's times.
This topic (http://p075.ezboard.com/New-Worlds-Best-GE-Player/fperfectdarkelitefrm19.showMessage?topicID=16.topic) is funny and quite representative.

(Wes and Tim's posts make us so smile today :)  )


Very last thing, the first time I saw the rankings, they were as of the 06/17/04, so now you can understand why I'm in the "BBWJ forever" team ;)



I hope you'll enjoy, Elite :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: PerfectTaste on May 07, 2007, 06:40:00 am
OMG, this is great stuff. Now I can finally get my dates on stuff together.

I'll look into it more later. :D
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: flukey lukey on May 07, 2007, 07:41:00 am
i love you man :D
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: PerfectTaste on May 07, 2007, 08:25:00 am
I only have some dates missing from my own PR's now.

Agent:

Dam 0:54
Frigate 0:26

SA:

Frigate 1:11
Depot 0:47
Train 1:47
Jungle 1:09
Caverns 1:34
Cradle 0:44

00A:

Facility 1:02
Depot 0:57
Train 2:22
Jungle 1:23
Cradle 0:45
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Wouter Jansen on May 07, 2007, 08:58:00 am
after a quick look, I may have catched a little something:

a clicked the 2nd validate button and got a list with most current wrs high in the list

then somewhere down I found

1:15*         Bunker 2 00 Agent - Randy Buikema
1:14*         Bunker 2 00 Agent - Greg Lavery

but 1:15 can't have been a wr when it already was 1:14 :p

anyways this seems nice ;)  is this that project you did for school as well?

as for my dates, I've kept track since 26 February 1999.

Find either GoldenEye-Process.htm for all PRs or GoldenEye-Dates.htm for current PRs only.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Arnaud-Nativel on May 07, 2007, 11:52:00 am
That's really nice :eek

And my depot A 26 has been achieved 06/17/06 , 7 hours after Simon's one :b
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Lovins on May 07, 2007, 02:47:00 pm
My Frigate 25 untied was 9/15/2001, I don't see that anywhere...
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on May 07, 2007, 09:22:00 pm
You have that 6/17/04 update by any chance?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on May 08, 2007, 01:46:00 am
Dam Agent 0:54        1-Jun-02        1       
Bunker 1 Agent 0:18        11-Jun-02        1       
Depot Agent 0:27        12-Jun-02        1       
Runway Agent 0:23        21-Jun-02        1       
Surface 1 Agent 1:05        3-Jul-02        1       
Streets Agent 1:15        5-Jul-02        1       
Archives Agent 0:17        15-Jul-02        1       
Runway 00 Agent 0:39        1-Aug-02        1       
Statue Secret Agent 2:27        5-Aug-02        1       
Statue Agent 2:27        5-Aug-02        1       
Statue 00 Agent 2:26        7-Aug-02        1       
Statue Secret Agent 2:26        7-Aug-02        2        *
Streets Secret Agent 1:58        7-Aug-02        1       
Streets 00 Agent 1:58        7-Aug-02        1       
Statue Agent 2:26        9-Aug-02        2        *
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:56        23-Aug-02        1       
Streets Secret Agent 1:57        27-Aug-02        2       
Streets 00 Agent 1:57        27-Aug-02        2        *
Surface 1 Secret Agent 1:53        27-Aug-02        1       
Surface 1 00 Agent 1:52        27-Aug-02        1        *
Surface 2 Agent 0:53        28-Aug-02        1       
Streets Agent 1:14        31-Aug-02        2       
Streets Secret Agent 1:56        12-Sep-02        3        *
Archives Secret Agent 0:57        13-Sep-02        1       
Archives 00 Agent 0:57        16-Sep-02        1       
Dam Agent 0:53        27-Sep-02        2        *
Surface 1 Secret Agent 1:52        27-Sep-02        2        *
Streets 00 Agent 1:56        27-Sep-02        3        *
Surface 1 Agent 1:04        28-Sep-02        2       
Control Agent 4:07        1-Oct-02        1       
Control Agent 4:06        2-Oct-02        2        *
Cradle Agent 0:36        3-Oct-02        1       
Surface 1 Secret Agent 1:51        13-Oct-02        3        *
Surface 1 00 Agent 1:51        7-Nov-02        2       
Dam Secret Agent 1:20        8-Nov-02        1       
Runway Secret Agent 0:23        22-Dec-02        1       
Depot Agent 0:26        25-Dec-02        2       
Surface 2 00 Agent 1:35        28-Dec-02        1       
Archives Secret Agent 0:56        29-Dec-02        2        *
Archives 00 Agent 0:56        31-Dec-02        2        *
Archives Agent 0:16        7-Jan-03        2        *
Bunker 2 Agent 0:25        12-Jan-03        1       
Facility Agent 0:48        20-Jan-03        1       
Control Secret Agent 4:23        1-Feb-03        1        *
Facility Secret Agent 0:58        5-Feb-03        1       
Facility 00 Agent 0:58        7-Feb-03        1       
Caverns Agent 1:03        8-Feb-03        1       
Frigate Secret Agent 1:08        17-Feb-03        1       
Silo Secret Agent 1:16        1-Mar-03        1       
Control Secret Agent 4:22        3-Mar-03        2       
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:53        8-Mar-03        1       
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:11        9-Mar-03        1       
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:09        11-Mar-03        2        *
Statue Agent 2:23        30-Mar-03        3        *
Statue Secret Agent 2:24        30-Mar-03        3       
Statue Secret Agent 2:22        30-Mar-03        4        *
Statue 00 Agent 2:23        30-Mar-03        2        *
Statue 00 Agent 2:22        31-Mar-03        3        *
Statue Agent 2:22        31-Mar-03        4        *
Statue 00 Agent 2:21        2-Apr-03        4        *
Statue Secret Agent 2:21        2-Apr-03        5        *
Statue Agent 2:21        6-May-03        5        *
Statue 00 Agent 2:20        7-May-03        5        *
Statue Secret Agent 2:20        7-May-03        6        *
Egyptian Agent 0:47        26-May-03        1       
Egyptian 00 Agent 0:47        27-May-03        1       
Surface 1 Agent 1:03        6-Aug-03        3        *
Facility Secret Agent 0:57        8-Aug-03        2        *
Control Agent 4:04        10-Aug-03        3       
Control Secret Agent 4:21        11-Aug-03        3        *
Cradle 00 Agent 0:38        18-Aug-03        1       
Silo Agent 1:06        20-Aug-03        1       
Silo Secret Agent 1:15        20-Aug-03        2        *
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:24        5-Sep-03        1       
Dam 00 Agent 2:04        5-Sep-03        1       
Runway 00 Agent 0:38        7-Sep-03        2        *
Silo 00 Agent 1:37        20-Sep-03        1       
Caverns Secret Agent 1:25        20-Sep-03        1       
Cradle Agent 0:35        27-Sep-03        2       
Egyptian Secret Agent 0:47        27-Sep-03        1       
Aztec Secret Agent 1:46        4-Oct-03        1        *
Jungle 00 Agent 1:02        12-Oct-03        1       
Control Agent 4:02        18-Oct-03        4        *
Control 00 Agent 4:24        24-Oct-03        1       
Control 00 Agent 4:22        25-Oct-03        2        *
Control Secret Agent 4:18        25-Oct-03        4        *
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:52        25-Oct-03        2        *
Dam Secret Agent 1:19        1-Nov-03        2        *
Cradle Secret Agent 0:37        7-Nov-03        1       
Facility Agent 0:47        14-Nov-03        2       
Dam 00 Agent 2:02        21-Nov-03        2       
Aztec Agent 1:40        21-Nov-03        1        *
Aztec Agent 1:36        28-Nov-03        2        *
Surface 2 00 Agent 1:32        5-Dec-03        2        *
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:07        15-Dec-03        1       
Frigate 00 Agent 1:14        19-Dec-03        1       
Frigate Agent 0:24        21-Dec-03        1       
Dam 00 Agent 2:01        23-Dec-03        3        *
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:55        23-Dec-03        2       
Depot Secret Agent 0:44        8-Mar-04        1       
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:07        9-Mar-04        3        *
Runway Agent 0:22        9-Mar-04        2        *
Surface 1 Secret Agent 1:50        11-Mar-04        4        *
Surface 1 00 Agent 1:50        12-Mar-04        3        *
Silo Secret Agent 1:12        19-Mar-04        3        *
Egyptian Agent 0:46        26-Mar-04        2        *
Silo Agent 1:05        28-Mar-04        2        *
Surface 2 Agent 0:52        2-Apr-04        2       
Silo 00 Agent 1:32        3-Apr-04        2        *
Jungle Agent 0:53        9-Apr-04        1       
Jungle Secret Agent 0:57        9-Apr-04        1        *
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:23        16-Apr-04        2       
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:50        30-Apr-04        3        *
Statue Agent 2:20        8-May-04        6        *
Train Secret Agent 1:43        11-May-04        1       
Train 00 Agent 2:11        13-May-04        1       
Caverns Secret Agent 1:23        14-May-04        2       
Bunker 2 Agent 0:24        23-May-04        2        *
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:06        27-May-04        2        *
Facility 00 Agent 0:57        30-May-04        2       
Cradle 00 Agent 0:37        1-Jun-04        2       
Control 00 Agent 4:19        6-Jun-04        3        *
Control Agent 4:00        8-Jun-04        5        *
Control Secret Agent 4:17        8-Jun-04        5        *
Control Secret Agent 4:16        10-Jun-04        6        *
Control 00 Agent 4:18        12-Jun-04        4        *
Control Secret Agent 4:15        12-Jun-04        7        *
Control Secret Agent 4:14        14-Jun-04        8        *
Control 00 Agent 4:17        15-Jun-04        5        *
Control Secret Agent 4:13        15-Jun-04        9        *
Dam 00 Agent 2:00        23-Oct-04        4        *
Frigate Secret Agent 1:03        28-Oct-05        2        *
Cradle Agent 0:34        19-Dec-05        3        *
Cradle Secret Agent 0:36        21-Dec-05        2       
Cradle 00 Agent 0:36        21-Dec-05        3        *
Train Secret Agent 1:42        27-Jan-06        2        *
Train 00 Agent 1:59        11-Mar-06        2        *
Aztec Secret Agent 1:43        14-Mar-06        2        *
Archives Secret Agent 0:55        20-Jun-06        3       
Archives 00 Agent 0:55        20-Jun-06        3       
Runway 00 Agent 0:37        27-Jun-06        3        *
Dam 00 Agent 1:59        6-Jul-06        5       
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:05        9-Jul-06        3       
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:04        9-Jul-06        4        *
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:03        13-Jul-06        5        *
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:01        13-Jul-06        6        *
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17        16-Jul-06        2       
Frigate 00 Agent 1:11        22-Jul-06        2       
Surface 2 00 Agent 1:30        23-Jul-06        3        *
Depot Secret Agent 0:43        27-Oct-06        2       
Control Agent 3:59        21-Dec-06        6        *
Control Secret Agent 4:11        3-Jan-07        10        *
Control 00 Agent 4:15        3-Jan-07        6        *
Control 00 Agent 4:13        10-Jan-07        7        *
Train Agent 1:05        3-Feb-07        1       
Depot 00 Agent 0:50        14-Mar-07        1       
Caverns 00 Agent 1:42        16-Mar-07        1
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 08, 2007, 05:09:00 pm
Okay, I added the times you guys put, and also corrected that mistake Wouter ;)

Oh and unfortunately not for a school project...now there shouldn't be anymore :(

Bryan, unfortunately I don't have a saved copy of these rankings...the only thing I remember, is that at that time, there were only 9 WRs you didn't have, and for each of them you were one second behind :p
Besides, I checked all the dates you put with the ones in the base, and corrected the few mistakes (especially at the beginning, and also for the 1-day delay with the post that happened sometimes).
Wouter, I haven't checked all your dates yet, just added the main missing, but I'll do that soon :)  

Also, a few things more:
- Goose, you posted twice your Caverns Agent 1'03. Once on page 20 of the WR topic page 6 (2005-12-11) and once on the current WR topic, page 5 (2006-11-22). Which one should we keep?

- Randy made a big whoard that he released on the 28th January 2002. For most times, I had to take this date, but for Cradle SA 38 and Cradle 00 39, Wouter had someway "known" before, since he posted these times the 2001-12-27; Wouter, does it remind you something? :)

- Finally, on the sheet Come sent me, there were some WRs with a missing date. I couldn't take them, but as some people may know some dates, I'm gonna list them here. I suppose it's only a few part of what is missing at these early ages (most of them are Wes' times), but having that would be better than nothing:

Dam

0'54 :

    * Harvey Manhood

0'55 :

    * Steven Zwartjes
    * Sterling Neblett
    * Graeme Faulds
    * Wes McKinney
    * Mike Martin
    * Patrick Wessels
    * Matthijs ten Ham
    * Eise Smit
    * Garrett Sellati
    * Tim Greneby
    * Craig Makepeace
    * Karl Jobst
    * Chris Rayola
    * Michael Coe
    * Greg Woll
    * Harvey Manhood
    * Damien Coe
    * Greg Lavery
    * Peter Osterland


facility 00

00:57 -

    * Alex Anderson



Surface 1 Agent

01:06 -

    * Wes McKinney



Bunker 1 Agent

00:18 -

    * Wes McKinney



Surface 2 Agent

00:55 -

    * Wes McKinney



Surface 2 SA

00:57 -

    * Graeme Faulds
    * Mike Martin
    * Wes McKinney
    * Tim Greneby
    * Sterling Neblett


Depot Agent


00:26 -

    * Jared Kirkness



Aztec 00

02:33 -

    * Steven Zwartjes
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on May 08, 2007, 05:48:00 pm
The 2nd time I posted it for Mike Gaydeski because he doesn't use the boards anymore.  That one is for him!

Use the first for me since that's when I got it ;)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Wouter Jansen on May 08, 2007, 05:51:00 pm
just ask Randy for his times

as for

Quote
Quote:
I'm in the "BBWJ forever


it may be reality once again
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matis on May 08, 2007, 05:59:00 pm
i just looked at this for the first time. it kicks ass.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on May 08, 2007, 06:16:00 pm
Damn right BBWJ is coming back.  It might have some other initials too but yeah.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RK on May 08, 2007, 06:41:00 pm
Dude, that's so cool, it really made my day. Looking at all of the significant dates to me, and what the WR's where like. This will truly be an awesome thing, and should get HUGE recognition.

Thanks, Quentin :D    :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Vulpex on May 08, 2007, 10:04:00 pm
Awesome work Quentin! Here's some stuff; may not be that useful.

On May 16, 2000, these people had Dam A 0:55 already:

Sterling Neblett
Steven Zwartjes
Graeme Faulds
Wes McKinney
Mike Martin

And the Dam SA record was 1:24 held by Sterling and Graeme.
And the Dam 00A record was 2:14 held by Sterling.

Between Jun 16, 2000 and April 16, 2001, these guys also got 0:55 for Dam A:

Patrick Wessels
Matthijs ten Ham
Eise Smit
Garrett Sellati
Tim Greneby
Craig Makepeace
Karl Jobst
Chris Rayola
Michael Coe
Greg Woll
Harvey Manhood
Damien Coe
Greg Lavery
Peter Osterland

...but I guess you already knew that. :)

Harv got 0:54 for Dam A after June 9, 2001, but before August 1, 2001. You probably knew that too. :)

On May 28, 2000, Eise Smit still had the mark on Surface 1 A with 1:07 untied. Wes still had 1:08 then, so his record is newer. He and Sterling tied for the Su1 SA record of 1:57 at that time, though. Sterling also held the 00A record of 1:57 then.

I don't know about the others you need, but I do have more infos sitting around. I don't know how far back you plan on going. ;)

Also Quentin, while you're here, did you beat 1:30:00 in GE Total Time in December 2005, or January 2006? I need it for the Club RARE page, you see. :D  Post here if you get any useful info that might help me make that page more accurate! Especially in the pre-t-e.n era.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 08, 2007, 10:34:00 pm
SA showed me this a couple times during his creation process to get a feel for how useful it would be.  At first I wasn't all that excited by the idea (the Elite database I've always wanted to see is the Elite Vids db- WRs, PRs, multiplayer, anything that's ever been created in a fully sortable display, with dates, comments, interesting info attached... but I digress), but once I saw his product in action out on the page I was sold.  Picking any date and getting to see how the main page looked is just too cool, and to have this extra info on top of that (like seeing all the 2005 records generated on a single page, or that history of the WRs chart) is just icing on the cake.

The one addition I wish we had would be to post a link directly to a specific page.  Say for instance I thought the rankings from the day I turned 18 were really cool, and wanted to show them to somebody.  So I'd just toss out a link to

quentin.meunier.free.fr/g...&year=2002 (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/rankings.php?day=11&month=2&year=2002)

and anyone clicking it would be taken right there.  Similiar to how I've set it up so if you want to show how a Contest matchup would go, you can put up a link like

thengamer.com/xstats/elit...year2=2006 (http://thengamer.com/xstats/elite/?&name1=Goose&year1=2006&name2=Mgay&year2=2006)

Not a huge deal or anything, but I think it'd make a handy addition.  In any case, great work with this SA, as I've said before.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: .. on May 09, 2007, 07:43:00 am
Yeah, the history of the WRs page was one of my creations from last fall.  I put a good amount of time into creating it and researching some of the older WRs, but wasn't able to get dates for a lot of them, just the order in which people got them in some cases.  Glad to see that it works well with this database and that it's been filled in a lot more since I quit working on it. :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 09, 2007, 05:48:00 pm
Thanks for the comments everyone :)

Andrew, thank you for your precisions. Indeed, I have this kind of information through some WR pages done by Wes that Come sent me. Unfortunately, I can't really enter this information in the base...:\
Oh, and I was gonna forget your question...hmm...as I didn't keep trace of any of my records, I really can't say when I did go under the 1:30 mark...I'd be tempted to say december 2005, but nothing is less sure...
Btw, what is this page and how do you know it happened in one of these two months? :)

And Jon...I thought it would be better to use the "POST" method (just cleaner), but after all you're probably right, direct links can be useful. I just changed it, so tell me if you encounter some problems. Note that the variables names are still in French right now...;)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 10, 2007, 01:47:00 am
Yeah, you're right about it looking cleaner the old way, and that clean look is probably the one you want for default, since 90% of people don't care about passing out a URL.  The way I'd probably do it is, after someone clicks "Validate" they're taken just to "ranking.php", but then on the bottom of the page underneath "The World Record table as of..." you could add a line reading

"If you'd like to show this page for this date to a friend, you can link them to
quentin.meunier.free.fr/g...nnee=2007" (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/rankings.php?date_mois=05&date_jour=01&date_annee=2007)

That should cover us well in both cases.

PS - Would you like for me to help you re-write the text on the pages to make then easier to read for English-speakers?  To not discriminate, maybe we should even have two "versions" of the page both looking at the same database- one written entirely in French, and this one I'd help you do over in English.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Vulpex on May 10, 2007, 11:04:00 pm
Club RARE is my project from last spring (= fall for you). :D  It's linked from the main page but here's another link (http://www.geocities.com/vulpex_007/ClubRARE.html). I updated it this week with some useful info about a few GE players I got from Bryan's saved pages (thanks Bryan! :D ).

This page lists players who have beaten 1:30:00 in GE, and players who have beaten 2:00:00 in PD. PD was quite easy to compile because until 2004 Jon kept accurate infos on the 2 Hour Club. GE was very difficult to compile because I wanted to match the accuracy of the PD list. Even now GE is far from accurate for the early entrants (except Wouter who kept a log). You're there too, but without a definite month, you'll notice. So I thought I'd ask you directly. :)

How did I know you passed 1:30:00 in those two months? By my l337 sk1llz of course.  >D  Um, the progress since August last year I've kept a careful eye on, but from before then I need to be resourceful. Google helps me, and also knowing  the URLs of many of the old pre-elite pages is quite useful, as they can be plugged into TWM to hopefully return a cache from the appropriate period. So I found some caches from around those two months and found you above 1:30:00 on one and below 1:30:00 on another. Simple as that. There are still alot of holes in 2001 though. :(
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Jimbo on May 10, 2007, 11:11:00 pm
Here is my input on the page, I saw some of mine were out of order so here's the correct dates:

Runway Agent 0:23 was my 1st world record; achieved on December 26, 2002. No longer a World Record.
Bunker 1 Agent 0:18 was my 2nd world record; achieved on January 2, 2003. No longer a World Record.
Streets Agent 1:14 was my 3rd World Record; achieved on July 17, 2003. No longer a World Record
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:09 was my 4th World Record, achieved on July 30, 2003. No longer a World Record.
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:24 was my 5th World Record; achieved on September 19, 2003. No longer a World Record.
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:08 was my 6th World Record, achieved on December 30, 2003. No longer a World Record.
Silo Agent 1:06 was my 7th World Record, achieved on December 31, 2003. No longer a World Record.
Cradle 00 Agent 0:37 was my 8th World Record, achieved on January 3, 2004. No longer a World Record.
Egypt SA 0:47 was my 9th World Record, achieved on March 12, 2004.
Surface 2 Agent 0:53 was my 10th World Record, achieved on March 19, 2004. No Longer a World Record.
Caverns Agent 1:03 was my 11th World Record, achieved on March 23, 2004.
Bunker 2 Agent 0:25 was my 12th World Record, achieved on April 9, 2004. No Longer a World Record.
Depot Agent 0:26 was my 13th World Record, achived April 10, 2004.
Bunker 1 SA 0:23 was my 14th World Record, achieved on April 14, 2004.
Control 00A 4:22 was my 15th World Record, achieved on May 23, 2004. No longer a World Record.
Runway SA 0:23 was my 16th World Record, achieved on May 29, 2004.
Archives SA 0:56 was my 17th World Record, achieved February 3rd, 2005. No Longer a World Record.
Archives 00A 0:56 was my 18th World Record, achieved March 10th, 2005. No Longer a World Record
Caverns SA 1:23 was my 19th World Record, achieved January 18, 2006.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on May 10, 2007, 11:11:00 pm
your 19th WR is no longer a WR :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Troublesome Moral Code on May 10, 2007, 11:18:00 pm
Jared Kirkness's Depot 26 post is infact in the last WR posting topic (perhaps you didn't recognize the board name?).

p075.ezboard.com/fperfect...7&stop=477 (http://p075.ezboard.com/fperfectdarkelitefrm11.showMessageRange?topicID=1933.topic&start=477&stop=477)

April 29, 2006. :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 11, 2007, 05:03:00 pm
Sure thing Ngamer! I have made the changes you sent me, thanks!

Andrew, fine work there! Indeed I didn't know this page and had never noticed it :o  Good job :)
Also, it reminded me that I have been a goldeneye player, thing that I'm forgetting these times :\

Jimbo, I checked your times. There were 3 lacking and one mistake on a date indeed...that's corrected now.

And Mouser...Yes, I remember this post, but...don't blame me, I thought it was something that someone had randomly posted (there are at least one or two other Depot Agent 26 that ended up being "fakes", usually they are "post 1" etc.). Now I will remember this board name of "M1ster Jay", that's for sure! :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 11, 2007, 06:48:00 pm
Ah, so you did.  Looking good, SA!

I think the only thing that could improve the site now would be if were able to track records back to before 2000.  But for that we'd need some help from Wes...  Maybe I'll get him involved here in the future.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: mrsooreams on May 11, 2007, 07:27:00 pm
Actually the only thing that could make the site better would be for people to be able to download the database whole, so that other people with programming skillz0rz can do fun stuff with it. But yeah, what you've done with it is definitely cool.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 11, 2007, 09:15:00 pm
"Fun stuff" like what?  Post some ideas and I'm sure SA could make it happen.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: mrsooreams on May 12, 2007, 04:45:00 am
You know, the worst thing about being a programmer is that people constantly bug you to do stuff for them. I'll post some of my ideas later but I don't expect SA to do them for me, especially when I could do it myself.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 13, 2007, 06:56:00 am
Since I can't write "long" posts, I'm gonna split it into 2...(and hope this will work)

Actually, I'm not against the idea of making the base accessible to other people if they have good ideas about some stuff they can do. The problem of making it directly "downloadable" is that it would require to recreate the archive after each modification (to my knowledge). Also, this would create some problems inherent with data duplication. So I think the very best would be to have only one base and different stuffs looking at/using it, what would imply moving it from my site, unless you want me to host your pages...(because of password/other bases issues etc.). I think we will have time to talk about it, but before copying it in any way, I'd like to finish some things, especially checking all Wouter's records (I've begun but not finished).
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 13, 2007, 06:59:00 am
Also, I wouldn't want to be accused of stealing your ideas if you post things that I already more or less intend to do this summer :p

Otherwise, I see no objection as I said :)

Very last thing, I don't know if I understood well what you said, but that's not as if I were a "programmer" people abused of (I don't consider myself as a "programmer" neither, but that's not the point here :p  )...it's more like doing php is a kind of hobby sometimes, and if I have time for it this summer, I'll be happy to use it on creating cool pages. I mean, I know my limits as well.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: mrsooreams on May 13, 2007, 11:32:00 am
Perhaps you could provide read access to the database. That way we can do the "fun stuff" without fear of damaging your site.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 13, 2007, 09:26:00 pm
Oh, I thought of something.  How about if we used the db to generate All-Time WR Rankings.  Obviously it'd be easy to list by # of times their names comes up for a new WR, but the other way to look at it would be, how many levels have they ever held the WR on?  I believe Wouter's done all 60 at some point... has Boss as well now?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Lark on May 13, 2007, 09:36:00 pm
Boss has never had Train agent.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on May 14, 2007, 12:12:00 am
I remember he told me that he hasn't hold 3 of the 60 WRs at least once.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on May 14, 2007, 01:11:00 am
I'm only missing Aztec 00A.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: DrugAgainstAngst on May 14, 2007, 06:47:00 pm
yeah he got 1:05 as the WR, but only held it for a day or two :lol
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: stan-the-man-1 on May 14, 2007, 07:37:00 pm
How can you not have had aztec if you came up with the glass door strat?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Vulpex on May 15, 2007, 12:45:00 am
Because at the time he came up with the strat he wasn't a great player yet. He had Dam 54 and a couple of other ties I'm sure, but as soon as Greg released his strat everyone pounced on the level. Derek kept a careful record, I believe, of the WRs. Tim Greneby was the first to beat the existing 00A WR (2:33, Zwartjes) with a 2:29(?). Bryan only had 2:43 at that time, but he was just one second from the WR for a long time later on with his 1:57, though.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 15, 2007, 04:08:00 am
Sounds like a good idea Jon! I'll give it a shot tonight! :)  

Mrsooreams (what's your real name btw? :)   ), indeed that would be a solution to authorize only read, via "GRANT SELECT", but I searched and it seems like it's not possible to do so on this host (there is no user-management), plus I also read that it is impossible to connect to the base from a server which is not hosted at "free.fr". That's a pity, but in the mean time, we can't blame them since they provide us for each user 10 GB of space for the DB+pages/files without ad. So yeah maybe we'll have to move it on thengamer or elsewhere (I pay for a server with Nojdo which provides Databases with user management).


Edit: Made it! You now have a link on the first page in order to see the "rankings" in terms of number of WRs on different levels.
Some notes:
* I didn't take into consideration the possibility of entering a date, since I thought it was irrelevant here, the most interesting being today.
* I linked the levels on the main page since there was also no real deal there, but did so in order to keep the original design.
* Actually I hesitated between putting the links for players directly on the table (as it is now) or in the rankings below where all the names are as well. The drawbacks of doing as it is now is that the generated pages are far heavier since there are many more links.
* I still haven't done anything concerning the "total number of WRs", but I'm thinking of it...
* In order to improve this page, I guess it would be better to change some parts of the text to explain what is happening (header, but also for the rankings below). I will probably give it a try soon...
* If you are too lazy to find the link, the new page is located here (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/alltimerecords.php) :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: .. on May 15, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
Where's Sterling on that page?

EDIT: "Not so Perfect Dark" = Josh Heuer
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 15, 2007, 04:43:00 pm
The database doesn't have a full 60 level set of times in place until 7/1/2001... has Sterling actually set any WRs since that time?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 16, 2007, 06:08:00 pm
Yeah, unfortunately Sterling is not more on the other pages than what he is on this page...
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 17, 2007, 06:55:00 pm
Oh, another idea I quite like!  How about if every name on the rankings was clickable, and if you took the link for the #1 player for instance you'd be taken to

gewrs/rankings.php?player=Bryan Bosshardt

This page would display all of the records Bryan has set or tied, dated and with the most recent on top.  And times that are STILL WRs to this day would be listed in bold.

And the headline on top could read

"Bryan Bosshardt's World Records

Bryan Bosshardt has set a total of 143 WRs.
37 are still WRs today."

I know that some top players already have pages like this on their websites, but they're largely outdated, and this would be neat in that everyone who's ever tied a record (since '01) would be rewarded with their own page that they could link to.

EDIT - I've mailed Wes regarding this project.  Hopefully with his help we'll be able to start taking the database back to pre-2001.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on May 19, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
New WR to enter!

l34ss l3oost (1:44:03 PM): still one time missing from that but ims ure one day that will be fixed
Im Ngamer (1:44:14 PM): which one?
l34ss l3oost (1:44:28 PM): Facility 00 agent. It was missing off The DB the first time i viewed it
Im Ngamer (1:44:48 PM): know what date you got it?
l34ss l3oost (1:46:39 PM): i recon it would be within a few days before 11.16.05
Im Ngamer (1:47:37 PM): and the record at that time was...
l34ss l3oost (1:47:47 PM): 57

SA's got a new page working, but I'll let him post about it later tonight.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 20, 2007, 07:18:00 am
Ugh, once more I exceeded my "quotas", this is becoming annoying...

So, thanks for the suggestions and the correction Ngamer and Alex. About this time, I once noticed it was missing but forgot to note it and post it here, so that's cool it's finally corrected. For the date, I entered 11.16.05, hopes this is ok.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on May 20, 2007, 03:52:00 pm
Yes, I can post again!
So, the end of the message:

Concerning the changes, I modified the existing "player" page so that it's more accurate as Jon proposed, and linked it from every rankings. I also added the possibility of choosing a particular player when displaying the list of WR between two dates, and finally added a page with rankings based on the total number of WRs set for each player (though it might not be accurate at all for old school players).

As always, suggestions and corrections are welcome :)  

Edit: Update! After Goose's remark about the barriers, I decided to give it a try. The new page is available here :
quentin.meunier.free.fr/g...cutter.php (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/timecutter.php)

(I might as well add the same thing for Agent, SA and 00 only, I don't know yet...)

Hope you'll enjoy :)  

Edit2: You'd do a good tester Wouter, thanks ;)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on May 26, 2007, 07:36:00 pm
that's awesome!!

I really like this feature
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Lovins on May 26, 2007, 08:23:00 pm
Yeah that is pretty cool, good work.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Wouter Jansen on May 26, 2007, 10:29:00 pm
heh a gain of 0 sec

Eddie Lovins         Frigate Agent         0:26        07.07.01        0        1:23:09
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Lovins on May 27, 2007, 02:33:00 am
Lol, me and my unmatchable improvements to the Elite total time :lol
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on June 01, 2007, 04:17:00 pm
I got my 2 pages updated.  If you check those links from the first post, they can be found there.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matthijs Triep on June 04, 2007, 07:58:00 am
Some additions and corrections:

Wouter Jansen - Caverns 00A - 1:44 on 8-10-2003 (October 8th)
Was posted in the wr topic and is listed on his process.

Wouter Jansen -  Bunker I A - 0:18
Was set a whole long time ago (25-6-1999), but the exact date is listed in his process, so it should be added.


Guillherme Alberto posted dates for his unwhoard.

Egypt SA 0:47 > march 28, 2007
Egypt 00A 0:47 > march 31, 2007
Egypt A 0:46 > April 1, 2007
Archives SA 0:55 > April 15, 2007
Surface2 Agent 0:51 > April 21, 2007
Archives 00A 0:55 > April 21, 2007
Dam A 0:53 > April 28, 2007
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on June 05, 2007, 05:49:00 pm
Concerning Wouter's 1'44 on Caverns, it hasn't been entered since it was posted on the same day as 1'42, without the exact date (and because players can have at most one WR on a level per day, given that times are only day-accurate). Now that's added with the correct date. Bunker 1 is also added.

And good stuff for all Guiga's dates!

Thanks! :)



Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: SimThreat on June 20, 2007, 01:59:00 am
Yeah tons of my wr's are on there. :(

Where are some saved pages?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matthijs Triep on June 20, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Some corrections from a couple of brazilian players. They sometimes wait a day or so before posting their records here. From the brazilian board:
(all in european time format)

Leonardo Santos    

Facility A - 0:46    8-9-2006
Surface I A - 1:03    8-10-2006
Caverns A - 1:03    10-11-2006

Laercio Rodolfo    

Caverns A - 1:03    7-1-2007

Guillherme Alberto    

Runway A - 0:22    24-2-2007
Surface I A - 1:03    24-2-2007
Caverns A - 1:03    25-2-2007
Archives A - 0:16    14-3-2007

EDIT

Wouter's Caverns 00A 1:44 needs an asterisk, since it was untied. Was going to include it in this post already, but forgot about it.

EDIT 2

The dates for some selections also needs to be set to the date the oldest record in the database was achieved, Wouter's Bunker I A 0:18. For example on the main page for the list of wr's set from/between a date(s).
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on June 21, 2007, 06:45:00 pm
Karl did you mean "tons of my WRs aren't on there"?
Or was it just the nostalgia? :\
As for saved pages, I just have the Wes pages that Come gave me, but they are pretty old. I've nothing where the rankings look the same as now.

Matthijs, thanks a lot. I don't know how you do to get all these brazilians dates, but that's cool. And Caverns 1'44 was a mistake yup. Plus, I changed the selections as you mentionned for the list of WRs, but not for the WR table, since as of January 1st 2001, it's pretty empty already.

I'm currently working on an adaptation of Boss' pages, the first should soon be available :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matthijs Triep on June 21, 2007, 06:57:00 pm
On the-elite.net homepage, check the pictures under ''Affiliates''. The one but last picture takes you to Elite Brasil, the brazilian gaming site. They have a message board too, so I simply went through all the pages too see if they had posted it there earlier.

It's good that you say you're going through Boss's process. The next two things I was planning to do was to go through Wouter's and Boss's processes to see if there are mistakes. What have you done sofar from those two processes? I wouldn't mind helping you.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on June 21, 2007, 07:21:00 pm
For Boss, I checked all his WRs based on his page, with the dates, so this should be good.
For Wouter, I checked for all the WRs that were in the base if the dates were correct and corrected them as well. The difference is that I may have missed some WRs for Wouter (which he didn't post) since in his process are listed all his PRs and I just focused on the WRs. Maybe some things can then be improved, i.e. check if some of his times were not WRs by comparison with the WRs at the time.
However, this can lead to difficult questions, especially because we have to deal with "believed and on the rankings" WRs against "real" WRs. I encountered such a problem, when I entered a Tim's WR on Frigate, whereas Wouter's time was actually already lower, but not on the ranks. I asked Ngamer and he told me he thought it would be better to let as WR the ones "displayed at this time".
This is a true debate, but at least we could check and add the times of Wouter that didn't beat the record in place.
If you're willing to do that, that's of course welcome! You can also talk to me on aim if you have some questions (sn: silver angel 797)

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: SimThreat on June 22, 2007, 06:02:00 am
i meant a lot of my old wrs are there at all. Like...

train sa 1:48 which was untied when i got it from way back in 2000 and surface 1 agent 1:06 which was untied when i got it.

I also tied 1:10 and 1:11 on frigate sa when they were wr's. And also I had bunker 1 agent 18. Also facility agent 49 when it was a wr. And dam sa 1:20 when it was a wr.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on June 22, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
Karl, I already explained this.  Post the dates for those and any other WRs you had.  I realize you can't get it down exactly, but at least get it down to the month, so SA has something to work with.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on October 28, 2007, 04:25:00 am
Alright gang, I finally finished something I wanted to be done for long :)

The changes include:
- a modified page of the longest standing records, especially with now a table of the top 10 longest standing records ever at the selected date, that you can see at:
quentin.meunier.free.fr/g...anding.php (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/longeststanding.php) (selects the date of the last WR by default)
- the corresponding page for longest lasting untied WRs, accessible here:
quentin.meunier.free.fr/g...untied.php (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/longeststandinguntied.php) (selects the date of the last WR by default too)
- for this page, the corresponding page with the breakdowns on all levels.

For the two first pages, you can select the date of view from the index page.


Also, note the following:
the page for the longest standing untied World Records generates very heavy requests (with "WHERE xxx=(SELECT(min) ...)"), and is very long to load. I did my best to optimize some things, but couldn't get to something working fine and fast.
I still think this is possible to speed up the loading time by lowering the number of requests, and I'll try it when I have some time.
But the consequence is that if things stay as they are, I may not let this page dynamic, and create fixed html pages at some dates instead.

That being said, I hope you enjoy these new features :)


Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: octoinky on October 28, 2007, 04:36:00 am
Ah great work :)   This is some good stuff to see, no longer need to track that myself!  Really enjoy this site I hope more ppl navigate it frequently
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: mrsooreams on October 28, 2007, 06:14:00 am
If you give more details of your queries I might be able to help out. Would something like "SELECT level,difficulty,MIN(time) AS untied FROM wrs GROUP BY level,difficulty" be more efficient?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Wouter Jansen on October 28, 2007, 06:47:00 am
takes long? even my shitty connection loads today's date in 1 second and same day in 2004 in maybe 2. for untieds yes. when changing the date on untied page, it goes to the normal longeststanding page.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on October 28, 2007, 07:27:00 am
Thanks Octo!

mrsooreams: no, this is not the problem. Actually, things are a little more complicated...If you want to talk about that, I suggest doing it on aim ;)  (my sn is silver angel 797)

Yes Wouter, I was talking only about the longeststandinguntied.php page. Also, thanks for noticing these two mistakes (form + link), they are corrected now :)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matthijs Triep on January 20, 2008, 08:59:00 pm
Rayan's Train SA 1:25 has accidently been added as 1:24.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on January 20, 2008, 09:00:00 pm
...I don't think that was an accident (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Feek.gif&hash=5fc5b032ffecc0869b61bad31bcee959c46eea9d)




*runs*
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: D N Clemens on February 07, 2008, 08:55:00 pm
SA, just wanted to let you know that you accidently added my Streets Agent 1:13 as Streets Secret Agent 1:13. Looks kinda funny...
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on February 08, 2008, 05:41:00 pm
Ugh, how did I miss that...thanks David.
Worse, the site is down due to a database problem...I hope that will soon be fixed, boy, I don't want to lose everything! :(

Edit: the time I posted, everything was back to normal... :)
Good work team ;)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Wouter Jansen on February 08, 2008, 11:52:00 pm
you don't back things up?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on February 09, 2008, 12:45:00 am
at least he doesn't back up his files, unlike you, who doesn't back up all the shit they talk.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on February 09, 2008, 04:58:00 am
Yes I do Wouter, but to tell the truth it was quite a long time since last time I did...I'll do a back up this week-end (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fwink.gif&hash=4979046fbfc7ed25a03644bf608e503c4aa73f0f)

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on July 15, 2008, 03:28:00 pm
Hey silver angel, I just wanted to let you know that I actually got Aztec 00A 143 on 1/26/08, not 1/27/08. I posted it the 27th, but i got it the evening of the 26th, just wanted to have it changed becuase its annoying that it shows up as BBDC that day, and never shows it as being untied by me. thanks.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 16, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
Alright Clem, no problem. That's corrected now...

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matthijs Triep on January 04, 2009, 06:19:00 pm
Matthijs Triep - Bunker I AGENT - 0:17

I saw you posted in the Sylvester topic that you updated the GE WR Database, but I'll just post it here to keep that about the predictions.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on January 06, 2009, 01:26:00 pm
Yikes, thanks for this bug fix - I knew it was just too hard to make this update without any mistake...

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on January 08, 2009, 12:38:00 am
http://quentin.meunier.fr...&day=28&year=2002 (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/longeststanding.php?month=06&day=28&year=2002)

(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Flaugh.gif&hash=657f1346088ce2081c398c7379c3a47e4cf5861b) (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Flaugh.gif&hash=657f1346088ce2081c398c7379c3a47e4cf5861b) My lovely aztec untieds! Btw nice job, looks very very nice, didn't see this before. Just put another data form on top of the page for easier navigation, and maybe put some arrows to go through the days or months, etc.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on January 09, 2010, 05:10:00 am
Hey Quentin, can you update with my control 358 on here? Would be nice to at least have a record of when I got it.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on January 09, 2010, 06:26:00 am
This thread is older than din mor.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on January 11, 2010, 05:39:00 pm
David: Well actually your time is in the database, but I decided to mark it as "removed" since it wasn't on the real rankings.
Right now, there is no way to see removed times, tough I might do something about this later. Still, there won't be any good solution, as I am convinced you got 3'58, but the same way I'm convinced Zwartjes 1'31 was fake; therefore, I must follow the rules of the-elite for considering times valid.

By the way, I did a WR update and a site update (mainly navigation, plus a few other things), and asked Derek to put the pages on the elite when he has time, so the old links will no longer be valid (the site will link to the new pages when this is done).
I don't have much time for dealing with this kind of things right now, unfortunately (only WR updates from time to time I guess).

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Henning Blom on January 11, 2010, 05:55:00 pm
how about Haley's Streets 00A 1:55? basically the same, just that its a tied record.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on January 11, 2010, 05:55:00 pm
Well I was just asking since I noticed you had Comet's Streets 00A 155 on there, which he said wasn't taped.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on January 11, 2010, 06:37:00 pm
That database is just awesome. I stayed on that site for like 30 minutes looking at everything.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on January 12, 2010, 11:22:00 am
Thanks Vitor! I'm glad to see the efforts I have put into it are worth it.

David & Henning: Well this isn't on purpose. If Steven's 1'55 isn't up on the ranks, I'll mark this time as removed as well.

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on January 12, 2010, 10:17:00 pm
I'd like my quote out of your sig if at all possible. (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fsmile.gif&hash=1adea417e08e9042f9ce1a5426616bf29f2ca20e)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on January 12, 2010, 10:25:00 pm
gay
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 06, 2010, 05:39:00 pm
Alright guys, I just made an update.

That would be great if each of you could check his times! (and report potential errors)

A few notes:
- David or Rayan, can you confirm who untied the times Facility 00A 53 and Surface 2 A 48? (For now it's David)
- Also, from now on, can you say when a time has been done using 2.X? Right now it has been pretty obvious, but in the future it might not always be... I'm not gonna do my Simon Sternis, but I want to enter this information in the base, so as to display it in the future (and, to tell the truth, I enter them to follow the times accepted on the rankings, but still find it a bit weird to play with 2 controllers and a rubber band or whatever)

Anyway, good job guys!

PS: Boss, I'll try to think of it at a favorable time one of these day...!
Edit: Haley's street time has been removed as well
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: AZ on July 06, 2010, 06:38:00 pm

A W E S O M E (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6)(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6)(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6)

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Mavalock on July 06, 2010, 07:19:00 pm
Hey SA, my WRs seem to be missing from the database.  Could you add them?

Bunker 1 A 0:18 - 2003 August 07
Runway A 0:23 - 2003 October 04
Streets A 1:14 - 2003 December 26
Surface 2 A 0:53 - 2004 March 22
Runway SA 0:23 - 2005 June 21
Depot A 0:26 - 2005 July 01
Streets SA 1:56 - 2006 January 14
Streets 00 1:56 - 2006 June 09
Surface 2 SA 0:55 - 2006 June 24
Caverns A 1:03 - 2006 November 22
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on July 06, 2010, 07:45:00 pm
I think maybe you should fix Control 358 to show the date i originally got it but whatever.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: DYM on July 07, 2010, 01:39:00 am
Clemens got 53 and 48 first. Some of these WRs of mine are missing btw:

- Dam 00 159 (06.10.07)
- Frigate 00 109 (10.10.07)
- Train 00 154 and 155 (both 02.09.07, before 153)
- Aztec 00 141 (03.08.08)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on July 07, 2010, 02:10:00 am
oh, btw, what is this (here: http://quentin.meunier.fr...in=07&date_jour_fin=06): (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/recordlevel.php?level=2&date_annee_fin=2010&date_mois_fin=07&date_jour_fin=06):)

0:57    Rayan I. (2006-09-27)
0:56*    Leonardo Santos (2006-09-26)

Rayan posted 57 as a WR after Leonardo achieved it, but Leo didn't post it on that day, or something like that? Looks weird
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 07, 2010, 04:30:00 am
Mg: All your records are in the base with their exact date, but you must have been banned or something, because they have all been marked as removed from the ranks. If you have since been "unbanned", I'll unmark them and they will appear again. It seems like it's the case since your Runway SA 23 is up on the ranks... Gonna do this tonight.

David: I don't doubt a single second you got this time earlier, but this would cause a couple of problems: first, this would mean that for one year or so, the rankings would not reflect what really was up on the ranks at that time. Second, it would mean I can have to face the situation in which someone gets a time and claims having got it way earlier; what if I don't trust this person? I have to stick with the official rules not to rely on my feelings. Third, it would take off an untied to Ace with an unproven time. The only solution I see atm is to add a new kind of times ("unproven and achieved proven later"), and display them only in the personal player page with notice. Still, I would have to face the problem of trusting or not the claim. Might do this later, I don't know.

Rayan: These times are missing because you got a better time on the same day. As the granularity of viewing is the day, they are useless fom some rankings, but I can understand you them to be displayed on the different lists (and your WR page). I cannot add them right now, because I'm not sure how it would affect the different pages, but I'll try to support it the next time I update the sources.

Vitor: Thanks for noticing it. Your hypothesis is correct: I checked and Santos posted his 56 the 29th. I think I'll fix it by shifting his record to the 29, otherwise I have to remove Ace's 57.



Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Matt-Cook1 on July 07, 2010, 07:51:00 am
Very cool. A graph for level & difficulty showing the record progression would be icing on the cake.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: DYM on July 07, 2010, 04:17:00 pm
I got 57 on 22nd September 2006, forgot to mention it in the post I guess.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Ngamer on July 07, 2010, 06:43:00 pm
That is correct SA; after being defeated 94-0 by Matthijs, Mgay posted that all his times were fake and so he was taken off the rankings for a short while.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Infected Mind on July 07, 2010, 07:39:00 pm
Well Boss has had untieds up without proof for a year. So I dont see how its any different. He got proof called on it, didnt provide proof and it was removed. It was now proven recently. I think the original date of the wr should go up IMO. (Based off previous circumstances)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on July 07, 2010, 11:57:00 pm
yeah quentin but I did dupe 358 on vid, so I dont see why there would be a shadow of doubt. Also I am one of the most trustworthy people on The Elite.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: TreAKAHotdog on July 08, 2010, 12:40:00 am
Quote
Also I am one of the most trustworthy people on The Elite.
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Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on July 08, 2010, 01:17:00 am
Well, I have video proof of nearly every one of my times (streets 00a 155 and jungle 00 56 are the only unprovens), and aside from a minor silly things a few years back there isnt any reason to doubt me. Also I have met quite a few eliters.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: TheGreatMax on July 08, 2010, 02:10:00 am
I'm happy to be a true competitor.  Making my competition check and recheck everything.  We've proven over the years and will continue to prove there's more than being fast in competition.  This can go for strength, intelligence, wealth, whatever.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 08, 2010, 05:53:00 pm
Hello,

I didn't have time to do the few corrections tonight, but I'm taking care of that this week-end.

Matt: I'll think of it.

Ace: ok, gonna solve this at least.

Ng: I knew I didn't do it by chance, tought I didn't remember it!

Alex and David: Keep in mind that it will change a lot of things, like who broke the barriers, etc. Now, if everyone agrees that this time should go up, I am ok with this. Still, I need more opinions (including Rayan's one) before making the change.

Last thing, I noticed several weird things in the kind of what Vitor noticed. If anyone can help, this is welcome, since I don't know if it's due to an error of mine or to the fact that Randy (among others) liked to whoard times, sometimes resulting in uncool stuff (even though the base contains both the dates of achievement and publication - the dates curently seen are achievement dates). Besides, I think I cannot have access to some orginal topics anymore (those from the old period), what doesn't help. So yeah, basically, in absence of more information, I'll remove the times which are causing troubles (after re-checking the posts for the most recent records).

Frigate SA:

1:05 Wouter Jansen (2005-11-06)
1:03* Bryan Bosshardt (2005-10-28)

Surface 2 00A:

1:38 Randy Buikema (2001-08-06)
1:36* Wouter Jansen (2001-07-26)

Train SA:

1:31* Henrik Norgren (2006-02-07)
1:41 Rayan I. (2006-02-07)
1:33* Henrik Norgren (2006-02-06)

Cradle 00A:

0:44 Randy Buikema (2001-04-17)
0:43* Wouter Jansen (2001-04-14)

Edit: Rayan, actually, the "key" in the WR table of my database is (player,level,difficulty,date), so it might not be so easy to add your missing WRs.


Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 09, 2010, 05:15:00 pm

Alright, I did some checks:

Frigate SA: Bryan posted his 1:03 on the 17th december, but the correction was made later that he got the time on the 28th of October, so "technically" Wouter didn't get a WR there.

Train SA: Henrik posted like 5 records on the 8th including the 1:31, but the same day (and before), Rayan posted 1:41 (obtained the day before), so same thing here Rayan didn't get a WR if we consider real time achievements and not posts.

Cradle: by checking the publication dates, I saw that the same kind of things happened.

Surface 2: no clue there...

I have added a kind of "outdated" tag, so that these records eventually don't appear on the ranks, but still appear on the player's pages with notice. It's not yet taken into account though.


Last thing, following Matt's suggestion, I have looked how to generate images on-the-fly, and have added a little new feature. Example here:

http://quentin.meunier.fr...=07&date_jour_fin=06 (http://quentin.meunier.free.fr/gewrs/recordlevel.php?level=2&date_annee_fin=2010&date_mois_fin=07&date_jour_fin=06)

Hope you'll like it!


Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Henning Blom on July 09, 2010, 05:47:00 pm
Nice! (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fsmile.gif&hash=1adea417e08e9042f9ce1a5426616bf29f2ca20e)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 10, 2010, 07:22:00 am
Thanks Henning.

Just a small note to say that the base now manages the two earlier mentioned types of times.
The next step now is to be able to deal with several WR on the same day, from the same player and on the same level.

I don't know when I'll be able to do that, but since I'm almost done with my PhD (writing part), I may have time to give it a go quite soon.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Darth Vader on July 10, 2010, 07:24:00 am

The GE world record database is the most successful thing ever in the GE elite (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fsmile.gif&hash=1adea417e08e9042f9ce1a5426616bf29f2ca20e)

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Brucmack on July 10, 2010, 11:07:00 am
Agreed, it's awesome.

I do have some problems with people posting times and claiming they got it earlier. It allows abuse: for example, there's nothing stopping someone from posting a time and claiming to have gotten it earlier, to spite someone who "had" the WR before.

I have similar problems with the opposite issue: people posting times and proving it much later. For example, say someone sees that another player is consistently failing an untied WR and probably will get it soon - they could post it and claim to have it untaped, then some time in the future get it, therefore preventing the other person from ever having an untied. If you don't have proof for a time, it shoudn't count until it is duped, in my opinion.

This also has the added bonus that the WR database would reflect the actual ranks, with the proof policy we have today (I know things were different in Bryan's time as champ).
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Time was untied when set. on July 10, 2010, 07:00:00 pm
(https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Flaugh.gif&hash=657f1346088ce2081c398c7379c3a47e4cf5861b) @ suggesting I lied about 358. You do realize I got that when Ace was completely inactive... right?
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Brucmack on July 13, 2010, 09:40:00 am
Dave, I didn't even suggest that anyone has lied at all in the past, let alone mentioning you or 358. Where do you get that from?

My point is that we don't need to wait for someone to abuse the rules before changing them to prevent such abuse. It would also make it much easier for SA since there will be no need to make case-by-case decisions on what to put in the WR DB.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: vitor on July 13, 2010, 02:25:00 pm
^ hmm I agree with that, but it's a shame not having David's 358 when he first got it because we're all preety sure he did. I don't think anyone will abuse that.

and btw, that graphic looks fantastic!

"The GE world record database is the most successful thing ever in the GE elite "

so true!! you just don't stop improving that database lol it gets better and better, nice job
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 14, 2010, 06:26:00 am
Brucmack: I agree with you, and this is why I only take these times into account on the players pages, not elsewhere.

Other than that, thanks everyone for the comments. I'm glad I could finally find a way to contribute to the community, even though I'll never get a WR (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fwink.gif&hash=4979046fbfc7ed25a03644bf608e503c4aa73f0f)

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on July 14, 2010, 01:54:00 pm
If the database still says that I did Frigate 00A 1:10 as a WR, then it's wrong (we've brought this up many times before) because I never got Frigate 00A 1:10.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on July 22, 2010, 04:35:00 am

I'm glad to announce that everyone's favourite eliter, Greg Woll, has spent many hours recently going through old threads searching for WR of the 2000-2001 era. An announcement which will delight old school players like the King of pop, Ngamer. Greg even confided to me yesterday that he was far from done helping out. In his task, he has already added more than 250 records to the database. Thanks Greg!

Also, I have added a support for seeing two pages (rankings and allrecords) based on the dates of records publication (i.e. when posted on the boards or added on the ranks).

One last thing, I noticed several differences between the current records on the elite and those in the base:
Are missing:
- Cliff Hampton Runway SA 23
- James Taylor Runway SA 23 (Who's that? Why the "GL" initials?)
- Jose Tavares Runway SA 23
- Taka Runway SA 23
- Shawn Johnson Runway SA 23
Have apparently been removed:
- Greg Larkin Runway SA 23
- Josh Heuer Runway SA 23
- Tyler *%!%!*+ Runway SA 23

Also, Cliff's Archives A 16 was missing but Greg found the date by chance.

Thanks to the authors of the missing times for providing a date of achievement. For removed times, with absence of more information, I will assume a ban due to proof reasons.


Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Mavalock on July 22, 2010, 04:37:00 am
Lark wanted his name to be removed from the rankings, so his times are now listed under the name James Taylor.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Thiradell on July 22, 2010, 11:41:00 am
Truth.
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: silver angel on August 30, 2010, 04:23:00 am
An information which will delight the oldest-schooler of you: Greg has been continuing his activity, searching old records, and has recently even contacted Wes. Here is his message:

"I contacted Wes on Monday, asking about what types of information he has  retained from the old days.  He responded back a couple days later, and  told me that he managed to save his entire inbox from 99/00 on!  Since there was no common forum or meeting place for the top GE players back then, everything was e-mailed to Wes.  This should be huge for the database.  He also said he backed up some rankings from back then as well, which should also fill in some holes.  I told him to go ahead and send all of that over when possible.  Hopefully he'll send it over soon!  I have been searching for records anytime I get bored lately, and  before tonight, I was starting to slump and not find much that I had missed.  Wes' information should give me as much activity as ever."

Thanks to him!

Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Scrambler Fanny on August 30, 2010, 01:43:00 pm
^ that is gonna be awesomeness!!!  (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6) (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6) (https://forums.the-elite.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezboard.com%2Fintl%2Faenglish%2Fimages%2Femoticons%2Fhappy.gif&hash=7b9cd982f9a41f9aefcd7ea74682d5f1e4caf4c6)
Title: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Darth Vader on August 30, 2010, 02:52:00 pm

Hell yeah

Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: AZ on October 10, 2012, 05:40:23 pm
ATTN Quentin/Woll

The following UNTIED WRs are missing on the database:

Henrik Norgren - Train Secret Agent 1:36 - achieved Feb 5, 2006 (improved to 1:34 the same day)

Ilari Pekkala - Aztec 00 Agent 1:52 - achieved March 19, 2006 (improved to 1:50 the same day)

both Henrik and Illu can verify these WRs if necessary.
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on October 10, 2012, 09:07:47 pm
What's the deal with S1 00A? It still shows 149 on the longest standing WRs page. I noticed that last week or so.
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on October 10, 2012, 10:33:59 pm
Thanks, nice catches guys.  The untieds weren't in there due to a previous limitation on the website that prevented us from having multiple untieds from the same player on the same level and difficulty on the same day.  As a result, only the last WR of that day was considered "valid" in the database.  Quentin recently fixed this, so we added a lot of missing ones, but apparently missed a couple. 

As for Surface, the untied flag was never set on Marc's 1:48, so that apparently was preventing it from being recognized as the achieved record on that page. 

Anyway, these are all fixed.  Let me know if you find any other issues.  Quentin's a little harder to reach these days, but he's still always open to suggestions.
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Boss on November 29, 2012, 05:51:52 pm
Rayan's Aztec 141 is still recognized as the WR on the longest standing WRs page (he got 140 the exact same day apparently). I also noticed all of Hennings times (minus Frig SA/00A) are on the site despite being banned on the ranks.
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on November 29, 2012, 07:05:30 pm
I marked Henning's times as removed, so they won't show up on any of the pages at the moment.  Whenever the time comes that he gets re-added to the rankings, I'll update those records so that we're consistent.

The Longest Standing WRs issue is an interesting one though, surely due to those WRs being achieved the same day.  I've contacted Quentin about it, as he is still the only person that is able to modify the logic behind these pages.
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: RWG on November 29, 2012, 07:53:46 pm
I just want to say Woll and Quentin are badasses for upkeeping these pages.  One of the best parts of the-elite. :thumbs up:
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on November 29, 2012, 08:20:55 pm
Thanks Goose!  I'm glad that the effort is appreciated. :)
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: Jimbo on November 29, 2012, 11:50:50 pm
I use and abuse the WR pages like you wouldn't believe; absolutely priceless data for the Facebook updates and any other occasion where we research prolific player's pasts and the evolution of WRs. I love that page man!
Title: Re: The Goldeneye World Records Database
Post by: GoldenGreg007 on November 30, 2012, 10:52:18 pm
Good news!  In a surprisingly fast response, Quentin already fixed the bug that Boss found as well as incarnations of this bug on other pages.  This just happened to be the first place that it cropped up.