Author Topic: Post New WR Discussion Here! (Read 11053 times)

wishiwasfamous · « **Reply #250 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:25:00 pm »

Yay Alexis!

Infected Mind · « **Reply #251 on:** October 19, 2005, 11:57:00 pm »

send me a pal console and ill crank out 56s

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #252 on:** October 20, 2005, 04:28:00 am »

it doesn't change how much easier ntsc would be. try and tell me where I lost 55s in my 56 runs, those were high 56s for sure. I had a lot of close 57s.

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #253 on:** October 20, 2005, 07:34:00 pm »

That was a good idea to do the pauses while waiting for the guards ontop of the mainframe, probably saved a second with doing that. Instead of skipping the BA on 00 you could maybe skip some more guards, there's quite a few options. Some you might not think of are the black room guards, particularly the one by the mainframe. You run past him and alert the blast room guards then turn around and kill him quickly and hurry over to the next guard.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #254 on:** October 20, 2005, 08:29:00 pm »

You could probably skip 3 of those black room guys. But the survival rate would be Caverns-like. If not worse :eek

Not that i have the patience to beat my.....2.27

Archives.....now thats a level i'd rather play. But i fear i'll never PR it again. I had a couple of nice 57s back in 2003, PAL, closed double doors. I was using mini-CC then too, and ive been practicing with full cruise (obviously better). Dunno if i could ever do 56 though. I have both consoles, though have been using PAL because its in color

But is it really 0.6 slower????????? man, i need to get across to NTSC fast!

Also.....is 16 likely possible with cruise (either console)? What did Wouter use? I assume 1.2......

H

Infected Mind · « **Reply #255 on:** October 20, 2005, 10:30:00 pm »

ive failed 16 3 times with cruise , 2 had no boosts

wouter cruised

and theres no way pal is .6 slower, i was jsut saying that cause if failed 56's with .6 in stucks

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #256 on:** October 20, 2005, 10:42:00 pm »

i want to try for 16. But (A) i must tape, and i carnt be arsed. (B) I judt dont understand the speed involved! I need a polished run to get a high 17. Grrrr....

ps. Failing that level is very poor

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #257 on:** October 21, 2005, 07:26:00 pm »

Just watched Bryan's Control vids....

my question is: Does he have a way of knowing when to exit? On that 4.17 run, would he really risk a fail by jumping as he did? He jumped the 4.00 too, as though he knew it would complete as it faded. I was never able to judge....and by waiting, objective A always took forever to show up

RWG · « **Reply #258 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:45:00 pm »

Saint Shang, don't post in the WR topic, unless you got a WR. It will get deleted soon. Just so you know.

I used 1.1 CC here. :evil

I tried 1.2 for a bit, but it wasn't as cool here as runway.

Saint Shang · « **Reply #259 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:50:00 pm »

Oops my bad

Noob error

. So like when your coming up for the train shot do you backstrafe or what?

Jimbo · « **Reply #260 on:** October 21, 2005, 10:18:00 pm »

My 0:45 SA and 0:53 00A are all with that backstrafing trainshot. So anyone can do it (I could easily have gotten 44 / 52 as well)

RWG · « **Reply #261 on:** October 21, 2005, 11:43:00 pm »

I don't know what the backstrafing TS is. I just know theres the one before the wall, and the one after the wall. I obvioulsy did the one before the wall.

It was actually easier to get 26 like this, than 27 with the other TS. Only my TS succes rate dropped from 70% to about 5%.

bcks · « **Reply #262 on:** October 22, 2005, 05:01:00 am »

Good Job Ryan.

Illu · « **Reply #263 on:** October 22, 2005, 08:17:00 am »

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Just watched Bryan's Control vids....

my question is: Does he have a way of knowing when to exit? On that 4.17 run, would he really risk a fail by jumping as he did? He jumped the 4.00 too, as though he knew it would complete as it faded. I was never able to judge....and by waiting, objective A always took forever to show up

There's a limit to how fast she can complete, it's kind of like the hostages on Frigate, just have to take the chanse if you want to get really good times on that level and eventually she will complete fast. I think the fastest she can complete is 17-18 sec after her last message dissapears so we try to time to jump into the elevator within that time.

EDIT: oh and congrats to Ryan

typosaur · « **Reply #264 on:** October 22, 2005, 09:00:00 am »

And congrats, Whity.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #265 on:** October 22, 2005, 06:24:00 pm »

I suspect its probably frigate-like, Ilari. But thanks

i think i'll add a few secs, to get more certainty. Either way, i will have a play tonight, my times are poorer than a Baghdad busker. I can finally get sub 28mins SA total. Which i should have done 2 years ago :rolleyes

Its weird how there is such a clot of players with 4.10. Lucky i didnt retire with 4.11 :rollin

Ryan....nice time

Did you tape that one? For your validation pusposes, one of your records taped is probably enough imo.

bcks · « **Reply #266 on:** October 22, 2005, 06:38:00 pm »

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For your validation pusposes, one of your records taped is probably enough imo

No its not, not with the new proof policey, harvey is saying one taped wr, is good enough to prove yourself for all yours times, its not!!!!!

Learn to tape again Harvey.

RWG · « **Reply #267 on:** October 22, 2005, 06:44:00 pm »

darn, I thought my caverns 00 636 tape would validate everything.

too bad

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #268 on:** October 22, 2005, 06:52:00 pm »

When i mean is, one of the WR runs establishes the player's potential, almost implying almost all of his other record claim. For other shitty PRs, who cares? Indeed, who wants to see that Cavs? Maybe he has 10 minutes, and 6.XX is b/s. Still 0 points

I dont have a working VCR or tapes. But i might get a recordable DVD player, for general use anyway. We'll see.

RWG · « **Reply #269 on:** October 22, 2005, 07:02:00 pm »

sorry to let you down, but I don't have caverns 00 on tape. What a shame.

I'm not retarded. I didn't actually believe that would prove crap anyways.

The other stuff will be taken care of. Don't worry.

DarkSlayer64 · « **Reply #270 on:** October 22, 2005, 09:58:00 pm »

Btw Harvey, if you want to read the new proof policy, it's here. I'm guessing you weren't here when the new policy was created, right?

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #271 on:** October 22, 2005, 11:01:00 pm »

Ngamer OBVIOUSLY made sure he was the one to show me first....."I am Jon Bearder, and I make the rules, etc....".

So i've seen it. Its totally irrelevant for my sub-90 improvers, i'll only tape for times that would need it (WRs and other pwnage)

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #272 on:** October 23, 2005, 07:36:00 am »

I think for someone that makes a comeback, they also should require to tape some of the new PRs. it's too easy to just hang around and post stuff without proving anything, just because you've proven some (often only decent) times several milleniums ago and are "trustworthy". There's no trustworthiness in the concept of what is legit. any person has the ability to lie so nothing that isn't proven is legit in our eyes. I wouldn't know why I would even have to believe you made a comeback for real, you threw your GE cartridge in a lake, for GE Satanist's sake. PLUS you're making excuses about not being able to tape, and being difficult about it. Get over it, the "easy lying"-age has passed. Just be glad that quite a lot is still allowed to be done on the "normal" rankings, whereas the proven rankings only allows proven times of course.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #273 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:25:00 pm »

I'm in the process of setting it up. And i also knew that you (and you alone) would take that tone. I was just waiting for it to happen :lol

Chances are, the next PR(s) will be DVD's up.
The question is.....what software do i use to chop up the footage?

H

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #274 on:** October 23, 2005, 07:05:00 pm »

You only care about hardware

Infected Mind · « **Reply #275 on:** October 23, 2005, 08:12:00 pm »

with the new proof policy, does harvey need to get 23 again? i forget, and am lazy to read

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #276 on:** October 23, 2005, 08:19:00 pm »

There are loads of records unproven. So whilst its unfortunate i dont have it taped....i will be getting away with it. And i'll get better times than that on the DVDRW setup (hopefully) anyhow.

If i was to be disallowed 23, you might as well ban me altogether because at least then i would stop playing. I shouldnt have come back, but its a drug

Infected Mind · « **Reply #277 on:** October 23, 2005, 08:29:00 pm »

goldeneye isnt a drug

bcks · « **Reply #278 on:** October 23, 2005, 08:34:00 pm »

Be a man Harvey.

* No fully unproven tied WR claims will be allowed in the future (6 and 9 included).

Im pretty sure that includes you Harvey.

Thats from the proff policy link from dark slayer, perhaps you should read it very good.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #279 on:** October 24, 2005, 04:34:00 pm »

Well there are unproven times i have that used to be WRs (and were when i got them). Such as 39 Runway, 54 Dam, 1:20 Dam, etc. Those have been up for two years.....so.....?

AND i can think of someone else who, remarkably, hasnt proved 39

I hope this can be forgiven. Bear in mind that every second of play will be DVDR'D up from now on. I just wasnt set up for taping before, and didnt want to wait til i was to get the 23. Hmmn..... $:\$

.. · « **Reply #280 on:** October 24, 2005, 04:59:00 pm »

Times gotten before the proof policy came into effect are not going to be removed for lack of proof except in extreme circumstances (Sucrams Def PA 1:23, for example).

Any new times that you get since the proof policy has come into effect should be taped. You're still at a high enough level where any PRs you'll get will be worth a lot of points or will be WRs, so of course those should be proven.

Try for 22, if you don't want to get 23 again.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #281 on:** October 24, 2005, 05:41:00 pm »

Lark · « **Reply #282 on:** October 24, 2005, 07:13:00 pm »

People in the Elite really don't care about the average Joe's who just get average PR's. We have feelings too.

Sure im not that great to earn a world record but i have racked up a couple of points. Don't that count for anything? $:\$

RWG · « **Reply #283 on:** October 24, 2005, 08:11:00 pm »

Are you even ranked? If yes, what's your name? If no, then the answer to your question is NO!

Anyways, I'm posting this because I'm bored, and I can't play Silo right now because I'm on the brink of game rage. Here's a new strat. If someone's done it before, let me know, and I will edit this post to say "I AM GAY."

On Surface 1 SA/00 everyone wants to self boost to get 149 or 148. I think I saw posts about this on an old board, where you fire the nades in the air. Here's a more consistent (boostwise) strat.

After you get the safe key, going to the safe hut, do not use forwards strafe. Use backstrafe like in frigay. Must be 1.2. Basically, you look down a few degrees, and fire the nades at the ground in front of you, giving boosts. The hard thing is, the line is bitchy and the boosts can be gay. It does work and I have indeed tried this. Basically, you'd be backstrafing and once you saw that fence on your right, you'd switch back to front strafe and do the level like normal.

I know everyones probably too lazy to try this, but w/e. I was bored.

johnnyintheechocafe · « **Reply #284 on:** October 24, 2005, 08:15:00 pm »

thats pretty clever! Ive never heard about it before. Maybe it would work in Streets A too, the boosts would hurt you less perhaps, allowing for more (12 available, right?).

Its a shame it has to be 1.2, though.....

H

RWG · « **Reply #285 on:** October 24, 2005, 08:18:00 pm »

There's actually only 6 availible, but you could kill RL guys for 8 total. Plus it would work on SA/00 if there's a spot to turn around. So 6 extra boosts there is like 154 territory maybe. :evil

It doesn't have to be 1.2, 1.1 no CC would do it, but Wouter's the only guy in the world who can play 1.1 no CC. My reverse CC theory would work too, if it's perfected.

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #286 on:** October 24, 2005, 10:56:00 pm »

Has anyone tried doing the tracker bug toss before you enter the first door on the boat? I was doing this like a year ago I think got on it there a couple times, I know I was usally really close. This could save a couple seconds since you could have it complete while your killing the first guard and not have to wait. What I was doing was running up the stairs at full speed with forward and left strafe, aiming up something like a 55* angle I can't remember exactly, toss as you come to the top of the stairs and the bug should just barely miss hitting the boat right away. I was hard to get it to go far enough, it'd usually land just short I think.

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #287 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:01:00 pm »

I just had an idea, doing the normal agent bug toss on SA, you could do some quick pauses while waiting to speed up the pauses for the bomb defuser.

RWG · « **Reply #288 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:05:00 pm »

Tried the long bug toss, never got it to work. That would save a bunch of time though.

That pausing ideas pretty good. Might try that.

Cervone · « **Reply #289 on:** October 25, 2005, 01:50:00 am »

SW... I've tried that out before. I don't especially recommend it (it seems as though the bug fails more often) and it doesn't really save that much. Though I suppose it's helpful in theory.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #290 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:18:00 am »

sorry to say this Goose, but that Surface 1 idea has indeed been brought up before. I'm not sure if anyone has tried it out but Bryan might have. I know 100% sure that I've heard it before because I can totally remember hearing it before

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #291 on:** October 25, 2005, 06:42:00 am »

A lot of people have thought of that SA1 strat including myself. It's hard to do it right but I think it could potentially save a second or 2, prolly just want to boost on the one long stretch.

Illu · « **Reply #292 on:** October 25, 2005, 09:09:00 am »

I've tried boosting myself in backstrafe on S1, however, you loose a little bit in changing to back strafe, it may not seem like it but you do. The boosts aren't as efficient as they may seem either and the lag from the explotions must make you loose time as I didn't get any succes with it.

Maybe I didn't try enough but I really think it's faster to not do two strafe changes but just strafe like normally and get at least as good boosts from the guards.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #293 on:** October 25, 2005, 11:19:00 am »

You don't need 2 strafe changes, Just go backwards after getting the GL. Anyways, You could like use lookdown between the shots to save some lag. And if you do the second strafe change exactly as you get boosted it shouldn't loose more than going normal.

And nice idea for Frigate SW.