Religion

[Soft-Hedwig]

"if you care (as a single person OR as a society) more about education than you do about loving God, than you need to check your heart"

This is why some of the most religious areas in any country are some of the most backward.

[Red Bull]

Loving God doesn't help the economy in any way, that would explain why some extremely religious countries or areas are so poor and why they're all so dumb. They're just learning the wrong stuff!

[RWG]

but if you really have strong faith, then you don't care about money... since you have God which is infinitely more important.

[Red Bull]

Kill everyone who doesn't believe in the same god imo.

[Scrambler Fanny]

...seek help ^

[Jimbo]

Jesus Christ (no pun intended), this topic has become a chatroom for confused theistic-believers who will realize at the end of their lives how much they wasted it away.

[Scrambler Fanny]

SOMEONE will have been wrong-that's for sure...

[RWG]

I don't quite see how you're wasting your life. People who believe in God and live for God with every breath still live good fulfilled lives. It's all relative to the person how good of a life they live, and it's all a choice we make. Someone who does everything for God will in general live no worse a life than a devout atheist. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

[Thiradell]

Yeah, Jimbo, I don't really see how I'm wasting my life in contrast as to how you're not. If I'm wrong at the end of my life, darn. You've got more consequences to consider, actually...

[l337]

Why don't all god believers just commit mass suicide so they can go to heaven.  I kind of see this as a win:win situation.  You get to go to your heaven which is supposed to be a magical lovely place with lots of flowers and stunning architecture, where you can be closer to god and see all your relatives and friends who have passed away.
Then all the stuff that is bad with this world will slowly disappear since it's all religion fueled anyway and us athiests can carry on our normal lives.

Suicide bombers are half way there. All they need to do is stop taking innocent fucking lives when they take their own, and they can go see their god and heaven.

[RWG]

You're so deluded Mark.

[Scrambler Fanny]

didnt you start this topic 1337?

the reason to NOT commit mass-suicide is because we are trying to show others the power and love of Christ!

not everyone is as narrow-minded as yourself...er...at least your "idea"

[RWG]

question: Once everyone knows the power and love of Christ, then what?

[Smit]

Armageddon!

[Scrambler Fanny]

that's a great question

at that point i would be ready for something more AWESOME than you could imagine!

[flukey lukey]

respect, mark

[NathanStinson]

I guess we'll just see who's first at the end of our lives, according to Wouter;)

[Scrambler Fanny]

"suicide" isnt sin, per se, it's the taking of a life that is looked at as sin in God's eyes. imho, suicide is the ultimate way of saying "i love myself more than anything" and only shows how self-centered and oblivious to the world around you a person gets...had a family member commit suicide because "she couldn't "go on"" instead of asking for help (and sincerely meaning it) she decided to leave behind four children (two were under 10 years old!) to me she thought that SHE was ultimately more important than her family and especially her children. sad story, but our family has dealt with it. im not sure exactly where her heart was with God when she died, but thankfully God is the Ultimate Judge and His judgments and dealings are just and true. dont know if there could be any happiness or joy from a suicide, but in the end, God will have dealt with the person(s) according to His love and His being just.

[Henning Blom]

may god be with us all!

[RWG]

well Shawn, that's all relevant to some feelings suicidal people have, like "I have no purpose in life" or "there's nothing for me to do" or "I'm useless." In your case (sorry if it gets personal) it sounds like this woman did actually have purpose, a family to take care of at the very least, but what about times when people actually have nothing to do or anything to care for?

[Scrambler Fanny]

it's still sad, but i still believe that they are thinking too selfishly imaho. i suppose this is another of those conversations that has no ONE clear cut, definitive, resolution...until, that is...the "other side"

[Scrambler Fanny]

and Henning...He would be if we'd all just allow Him in...

[RWG]

I agree that you can never actually get in the situation where you have nothing, or you can do nothing. You can always find reason to live... just look at John McCain for instance. If you always have faith and stay strong then you will find reason one day, and if you don't have reason then just keep going and you will find it!

That is all. Josette.

[alexaxxem]

DARKNESS ASCENDS EVERYONE

[RWG]

[Carathorn]

Jezus christ what a beautiful post!

[Scrambler Fanny]

[Carathorn]

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[Soft-Hedwig]

fuckyoupaulwithrain

[AEB]

"Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church."

[l337]

Hello christians,

Is it true god put dinosaur bones in the earth to test peoples faith?

How do you feel about The Large Hadron Collider recreating the effect of the big bang, furthermore providing more evidence that the book of genesis is nothing more than a fairy tale?

[RWG]

People who believe in an omnipotent, omniscient, omnivoyant God clearly believe he is capable of putting dinosaur bones there to test people's faith, and capable of controlling the people to make the LHC and controlling the outcome of the experiment to show that the big bang certainly could have happened (again to test their faith.) Your argument completely fails to these people.

God did these things for the same reason you exist. As a test of our faith. Your purpose on Earth is solely to try to deflect people from religion, just as one of a Christian's purposes is to preach the word of God and Jesus. There quite possibly is no difference in the quality of life of these two people, the major concern lies in the afterlife, and whether or not you believe in it, I hope you are ready to burn in Hell if that's what it comes down to.

[TheGreatMax]

Think of all the people who've died in meaningless wars caused by an idea.  Battle doesn't prove who is right but who is left.

If those people knew then what we knew now history wouldn't be the same.  If it were perfect people wouldn't talk about the 'should have been.'

[l337]

"People who believe in an omnipotent, omniscient, omnivoyant God clearly believe he is capable of putting dinosaur bones there to test people's faith"


lol plz, listen to yourself

[Henning Blom]

Believe in me! I am the god of the new "BLOMMOR" religion!

[Wouter Jansen]

oh my! I DO believe in Din Mor!

[TheGreatMax]

With corruption in religion and other places I won't mention who knows for sure?

[Carathorn]

Conclusion/Highlights of this topic so far!

Octo: "Lets try to keep this a sharing experience, and keep the judging to a minimum =)."

Illu : " ahhhhhh don't speak negatively about religion, WAAAR this means WAAAARRR!!!!"

Bully:" SZ is probably a dinmorist"

Nari: " i pwn the pope"

Goose:
Ryan White is:
-good looking
-well dressed
-popular
-a successful university student and hockey player
-a well respected member in his community and online community

Wouter: "all things that are proven, how do you know they ARE? did you check them?"

Goose: " These last two posts just made me cry "

Jimbo: "Can you answer as to why my grandpa, who lived one of the greatest, most righteous lives God could ask for, got diagnosed with alzheimers at age 55 and died at age 67? "
Thiradell: " Jimbo, the sad thing is that your grandpa quite simply got what he deserved. "

Goose: "Being born is a sin."

Durk: " yeah but, no but, yeah but..............my Bible says so!"

TheGreatMax: " 500 dollars? Why not 100 or 1000? "

Vitor: " I believe in Stevie Wonder."

Karl: " If it was your intention to hurt my feelings guys... congratulations, you did well."
Goose: "Nice! I'm really glad that I succeeded at making you feel bad. This really gives me a lot of confidence in knowing that I can make the right decisions.

Greg @ GreatMax: " That was your first post that actually made some sense. Congrats."

SupaOdin: "God is dog backwards "

SupaOdin: " Too long, didn't read."

Goose: " God isn't good enough? Maybe you're just a homosexual."

Wouter: " define life"
Max: " define define"
Afan: " Red Bull youre sick!!! You be makin a brotha laugh to hard-i be wettin myself!!! HAHAHAHAHA-Red Bull said "define define" who is this Red Bull? HAHA "

Afan: "love ya bro"
Thiradell:" I love you too, man; seriously"

Thiradell: "I agree, GreatMax"

Durk: " Afan is a moron."
Afan: "Thanks buddy "

Afan:" Psalm 4:1"
Goose: " I don't understand it"

TheGreatMax: "Battle doesn't prove who is right but who is left. "


If god is cool he would lock this topic NOW! Quickly! Can't get any better than this!

[Scrambler Fanny]

God is BEYOND cool!

He's INFINI-COOL!

[l337]

He's made up

[Scrambler Fanny]

...of REAL big stuff!

[Jimbo]

Big bullshit, too.

[RWG]

what's it like knowing you two guys are put here solely to test Christians' faiths and are just little dumplings of life going straight to Hell when you die

[Jimbo]

You're living in my definition of hell right now, hitching a ride on the never-ending quest for love, and believing in something so catastrophically wrong that you change your entire lifestyle to live around it. Hell indeed exists, but not as the "lake of fire" as described in the Bible. Even when I did go to church and believe in Christianity, I pictured "hell" as just being the worst possible scenario to everything you could ever imagine. (like if you hate bees like I'd do, I'd live in a room with 100 beehives and no friends and no internet and no N64 etc). Doesn't it ever bother you that when you think about it, you believe something insane like a SPIRIT created you and he sent a HUMAN son to save your dumb ass and bring you into "heaven" (also open to interpretation) based on nothing but thought? I often wonder how life came to be, but if one can believe "God was always there", then I personally can believe "we were always here as is" with the same absurdness that follows.

[RWG]

do you fucking think I've changed my life around my faith? I haven't so far and that's why I'm studying it more to see if it really is something I should do in life. I'm not a blind believer, I do think about it and analyze it and that's what I'm doing right now to help me make such a great decision. Yes I consider myself a Christian, a follower of Christ, but look at me. I drink, I swear, I'm an asshole all the time, I do shit that profits me before anyone else and I'm just wreckless. I lie all the time, etc etc. So you can shove it before you pass judgments on anyone you label a "Christian."

[Jimbo]

You proved a point I was thinking but didn't post, that it's possible to be a total asshole yet somehow end up in "heaven" with a "perfect God". That to me makes absolutely no sense, and always kept my head spinning. Why would God demand we live such a righteous life, yet in the end all you have to do is ask for forgiveness and all is wiped clean anyway? I'd also like someone to answer another thought of mine....

If all deaths are pre-planned by God, and all births are pre-planned, what does that say about murders and rapes? God's "plan" is pretty fucked up in that sense, and YOU (Ryan) have to consider ridiculous things like this before you go giving yourself a bad social label and say you're "christian". Just say you're athiest and move on, it's a lot easier!

[RWG]

Bad social label?? Yeah because 2billion people in the world is a pretty insignificant number.


I ask you Jimbo. Do you remember a time when you did something bad in life and your dad said "IF YOU DO THAT AGAIN, YOU ARE GROUNDED!" I bet you did it again, and you didn't get grounded. And again and again and possibly still didn't even get grounded. Your father loves you, not for a moment, not only in some situations, but ALWAYS and FOREVER. This is just how God loves. When you sin, you disappoint Him and hurt Him, but His love is without end. One sin doesn't mean you're going to Hell, it just means you will have to accept God's judgment when you die.


Believing in God while having Christian faith play a large part of life while still fucking and swearing and drinking and whatever, knowing that I'll have a chance to get in Heaven if I'm willing to face His judgment sure sounds better than fucking and swearing and drinking and just hoping that there is no Hell to me.

[Axel A]

loool at my pic not getting in the highlights post up there!

[l337]

There have been ~90 billion human beings that have ever lived. What % of these people are in heaven and hell. Must be a big place! I hope theres enough food and drink to go around :s oh never mind, jesus can just turn all the water into wine, sorted.


i'm off shopping bye

[Red Bull]

As long as he turns me into beer I'm okay with it.