Author Topic: 2009 Meeting Discussion (Read 20137 times)

Jimbo · « **Reply #150 on:** November 11, 2008, 02:54:00 am »

You might be surprised as to how often you get bagged, also!

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #151 on:** November 11, 2008, 03:33:00 am »

I want to play more Jimbo next meet. Also I want in on the PD Challenge action aswell.

Lovins · « **Reply #152 on:** November 11, 2008, 01:46:00 pm »

I'd like to play more 1vs1 against everyone. Like Patrik said, 4-player isn't at all the same. Actually other than in the tournament, the only people I played 1vs1 were Jimbo and Greg. Well plus an "exhibition" against Trent in complex where I used 1.2 and he used 1.1 (I won

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Red Bull · « **Reply #153 on:** November 11, 2008, 05:43:00 pm »

A PD challenge would be MUCH more challenging and exciting, than those Pistol settings again. Like I probably said earlier, with PD you can randomize the weapons and you have to be good with everything, at every location, plus you dont have that gay stuff like that you have to hack and slash someone for fourty minutes with an RCP before he dies.

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #154 on:** November 11, 2008, 10:59:00 pm »

i agree with Bulldog about the RCP stupidity! when i play with powers (usually -10 health, though sometimes -4) i always outlaw that piece of garbage! anyone who uses it gets sacked!

Thiradell · « **Reply #155 on:** November 12, 2008, 01:26:00 am »

Hack and slash with the RCP...?

vitor · « **Reply #156 on:** December 02, 2008, 11:37:00 am »

"A PD challenge would be MUCH more challenging and exciting, than those Pistol settings again. Like I probably said earlier, with PD you can randomize the weapons and you have to be good with everything, at every location, plus you dont have that gay stuff like that you have to hack and slash someone for fourty minutes with an RCP before he dies."

You get a decent weapon setup with like 50% of the times. The other half you get something like 3 n-bombs, 2 x-ray and one empty. Then it's a fucking mess, although it's hella fun

NathanStinson · « **Reply #157 on:** December 14, 2008, 07:23:00 pm »

latest news!

"Hey Nathan,

My Dad had some analysis done on the water flow and ended up having the whole drainage situation redone. Once that happened, he began fixing the basement. I think it will be ready for next year!

- Drew"

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #158 on:** December 15, 2008, 09:20:00 am »

looking good looking good

Lovins · « **Reply #159 on:** December 15, 2008, 10:00:00 am »

Soft-Hedwig · « **Reply #160 on:** December 15, 2008, 10:04:00 am »

Afan only wants to come because he thinks you're having an orgy as well

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #161 on:** December 15, 2008, 12:10:00 pm »

perhaps you forgot that you're the one who's into kissing boys

thanks for your witty post though

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #162 on:** December 15, 2008, 04:49:00 pm »

Some ideas on EM3
- Alternate GE tournament, non-LTK. It became clear this year that defensive players are rewarded, which makes for bad spectating. Something that doesn't reward armor whoring either.
- GE agent speed run competition
- Won't someone get serious about SMK this year?
- Moar ice sculptures
- Make that punt, pass, kick business into a mini olympics.
- Scrabble? I might be the only one interested on that one. Well, me and Woll!

Lovins · « **Reply #163 on:** December 15, 2008, 05:08:00 pm »

Quote from: ImPerfect Clark

- Scrabble? I might be the only one interested on that one. Well, me and Woll!

*me too

And second the speedrun idea, I was hoping we'd do that last year.

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #164 on:** December 15, 2008, 05:19:00 pm »

I'll bring my collectible set - has gold racks and a velvet bag.

TreAKAHotdog · « **Reply #165 on:** December 15, 2008, 07:36:00 pm »

ill play scrabble!

ill have to download that auto-literati program though

NathanStinson · « **Reply #166 on:** December 15, 2008, 07:37:00 pm »

It would be nice if we could have a few extra days. That's what I'm lobbying for right now.

If we had a few extra days, we could fit in all of these events (or, if everyone only slept 6am-10am like me, so we'd have a lot of time:-p)

For GE, I think it would be neat to do settings with low health, but not LTK... that way, you can get a 1-hit kill on a headshot, but an arm or foot or leg shot won't one hit kill. Trunk shots will take 2-3 hits to kill, etc. Me and some friends used to do this awhile back. It was pretty fun:)
I'd say that the lowest ranked person could choose whether or not they wanted to choose the level, or the weapons set (although I think we should disallow proxy mines, and maybe remote mines, because people will just turtle the whole game), and the other person will choose the other. Then, each loser from there on out will get to choose whether or not they want to choose the weapons set or level. I think it would be fun, and I think a similar setting for PD would be a blast.

Also, I'd love to have a morning where we all load up in vehicles, and go to a park, or that school that the GNC was at last year, and just play a big game of football (big field), baseball, basketball, soccer, et al.

just a few ideas for now!

Also, for time... I'm thinking early August would be an optimal time for people again, especially for me, as it would fall between summer classes and fall classes. What do others think?

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #167 on:** December 15, 2008, 11:59:00 pm »

August is fine for me. People might be in uproar if the loser can pick anything, mainly because so many options are so shitty. I'll ponder some ideas and post later.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #168 on:** December 16, 2008, 04:09:00 am »

August is probably fine for me too. I'll plan my semester after this meeting so it's no problem at all.

Lovins · « **Reply #169 on:** December 16, 2008, 01:43:00 pm »

I can't believe everyone wants the end of LTK!

I guess I'm not against mixing it up a bit (although I'd still favor the tournament being LTK only) but some stuff like proxy mines definitely can't be allowed, that would just lead to a chain reaction of spawn deaths.

And August is just fine.

Illu · « **Reply #170 on:** December 16, 2008, 04:18:00 pm »

Well a tournament with free choise for weapons could turn out to be fun... or funny I'm not sure how people would feel about the final being decided with slappers

But there are good reasons for people using only LTK Pistols in tournaments, I mean that way we immediately make it be more about skilled fast kills, anticipating the opponent and reducing the too big of an advantage someone can get by simply being spawned next to a good weapon.

The thing is that if some of us play against some newbies we'll win in any case but in an tournament it can turn out to be too much about luck since both players are skilled and whoever gets the better weapons or most BA would win.

So when making this decision we need to think if we really can make it be more about skill with some other settings, otherwise I think the main tournament should still be done with LTK pistols. Surely it would be fun to have a side tournament that is like almost totally random with weapons and even the scenario, should make for some really funny moments. I can imagine a final being decided in flag tag mode maybe, hell we could even use those levels where you can shut the door and the otherone not being able to do anything without the proper weapons, what would I do in that situation? hmm well I guess I would shoot like mad outside trying to hope the other player sticks his hand out just when I fire at him.

Well these kinds of stuff we should almost definitely avoid but sure if we want a really freaky, funny side tournament it could be fun, so if this scenario would turn up both players would know instantly that whoever catches the flag first will probably win, whoever gets the chanse then has to take it or lose it.

Lovins · « **Reply #171 on:** December 16, 2008, 05:36:00 pm »

^^Exactly why LTK Pistols is the only way to go. The main tournament should be serious.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #172 on:** December 17, 2008, 04:28:00 am »

When I played Eise last summer we played -10 Hero a bit and I ended up loosing like every time. I think I hit him more than he hit me, but he knew where all the body armors was. It feels pretty cheap playing like that, cause even tho I knew where a body armor was I didn't want to pick it up, cause it's not really fair.

I don't think defensive LTK plays are boring to watch, it actually makes it kinda interesting. And when things happen super fast from standing still theres usually noisy when people cheering and stuff at the tournament. I will never forget the round against Ilari, cause it was really ON! I won over him at the swedish meeting, and we used to be really close in multiplayer. Then he practiced and played a lot in Virginia. We both gave it all to win. It wasn't about wining or loosing the tournament, the battle was between me and Ilari. The matches was probably long and boring for some people, but for me and Ilari it was so intense. I've never been more concentrated in my life I think, cause every time I got hit it really felt like I was hit IRL. LTK is the setting for the tournament, since GE doesn't have a good random weapon system. Still it would be fun to play something else then LTK, but lets do it outside the classic tournament.

PD is more suited for randomized battles, cause you can kill fast with most weapons if you get a couple of head shots. I don't find LTK PD that fun anyway. So who is up for the PD tournament?

Jimbo · « **Reply #173 on:** December 17, 2008, 01:40:00 pm »

I think loser-pick-everything would be so badass, and yes defensive strategies got rewarded with Pistols LTK, I think Clark was talking about me going kamikaze

Lovins · « **Reply #174 on:** December 17, 2008, 01:51:00 pm »

That's cuz offensive players like you will run straight into gunfire.

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #175 on:** December 17, 2008, 02:49:00 pm »

*is very offensive @ GE multi!*

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #176 on:** December 18, 2008, 12:11:00 am »

I'm a huge advocate of LTK pistols and usually only want to play that when it comes to multi. Likewise, I should clarify that I was suggesting the alternative scenarios as part of side tournaments for fun. LTK pistols should always be the main standard. Though while the suspense is appreciated, it seems to me the key to winning LTK is waiting for your opponent to make a move on your terms. If both players have that approach, the matches can be extremely cagey and slow. Kinda like an MMA fight where both guys are clearly waiting to take down the other, so they just stand in front of each other for minutes at a time.

Cruise Control LTK pistols would be hilariously intense.

Jimbo · « **Reply #177 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:38:00 am »

Then again 2 insanely offensive players like Illu and I was the best match of the tournament, I dunno.

TheGreatMax · « **Reply #178 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:51:00 am »

If you think my monkey wrenches are bad look at how many are being thrown at you. You could try duel like in PD? Maybe at the bottom of the temple where the magnum would be or at the top on the large side of the pit?

This game isn't as advanced so you don't start with a weapon and I'm at a loss how to level the playing field. You have the same chance at knowing the level as your opponent.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #179 on:** December 18, 2008, 07:25:00 am »

Quote from: afanoftherings

*is very offensive @ GE multi!*

Outside the tournaments I'm usually very offensive too. But it would be stupid to do uncontrolled kamiz the whole time for the sake of it in the tournaments. Sure you would get some great kills, the match will probably be more interesting to watch but it would not show "who has the best LTK skills". I totally agree with Clark about waiting for your opponent to make a move on your terms. The LTK style is to really not try to attack when you shouldn't, that's a skill itself.

The best match last year in terms of action, cool shots and stuff was probably the one between Illu and Jimbo. They had nothing to loose, since none cared about a third place in the tournament.

dragondragon18 · « **Reply #180 on:** December 18, 2008, 10:47:00 am »

Too bad there isn't a way to have 2 different TVs to play 1on1 like newer games. Definately is a different ballgame with no radar and you can't look to see where they are.

NathanStinson · « **Reply #181 on:** December 18, 2008, 01:09:00 pm »

If we had a TV spliiter, it could be managed somewhat.... Just ask Wonn, he was in a kart tournament where the screens were split onto different tv's

Lovins · « **Reply #182 on:** December 18, 2008, 01:36:00 pm »

Oh man, that'd be intense. But you'd have to ban spectators from saying too much, like if the players starting getting (unknowingly) close to each other on a map.

NathanStinson · « **Reply #183 on:** December 18, 2008, 01:41:00 pm »

it would definitely make for an interesting spectacle...

I'd think the easiest way of handling it would be on a pc playing emulated style somehow, because I would think it would be easier to split a signal from PC, or maybe not

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #184 on:** December 18, 2008, 10:15:00 pm »

We did this at Illinois in 2002. I will say that a huge part of LTK skills as we know it is based on reacting to the other players movement. I think it's a skill in itself to be able to manage two screens at once. Taking that away from it makes it an entirely different game. It does remove the defensiveness though.

Jimbo · « **Reply #185 on:** December 19, 2008, 01:57:00 am »

I think I'm the fastest player in multi (tooting my own horn here from experience) and I think I'd have an upper hand in a 1-screen-per-player setup, would be incredibly fun though.

TreAKAHotdog · « **Reply #186 on:** December 19, 2008, 03:35:00 am »

what a dumb thing to say

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #187 on:** December 19, 2008, 05:22:00 am »

We thought about rigging this at the Swedish Meeting aswell, cause I had all the cables needed to do it, but we never did. It's not that hard.

We could even split it three times. Have the two gaming televisions and wire the signal to the projector for spectators. Cover the opponents screen at the gaming sets.

This would be fun at some levels, there would be alot of backstabbing moments for instance. Too bad levels like Library? is that the combined one? is too big to even find each other.

EDIT: Maybe radar on would be a good setting. That would be good anti-camping-wise and also the radar doesn't tell you where the player is, just the locations. He could on a higher or lower level. I would vote for a radar on atleast.

Jimbo · « **Reply #188 on:** December 20, 2008, 04:11:00 am »

Trent, it's because I've done 1 screen per player modes before, whereas you probably have not.

Edit: one player per screen obv

Illu · « **Reply #189 on:** December 20, 2008, 08:37:00 am »

you could practise for that with bots, without radar

NathanStinson · « **Reply #190 on:** December 20, 2008, 07:37:00 pm »

I think it would be an interesting mode, and better for those of us who are better at online fps's (one screen per player)

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #191 on:** December 21, 2008, 06:29:00 pm »

^ yeah, i think you're right about the computer fps players.

and lol @ trent

Ngamer · « **Reply #192 on:** December 22, 2008, 01:20:00 am »

isthatagoodt (11:09:58 PM): Hey so I have a question, I know this party you have to be 18 to go to
isthatagoodt (11:10:05 PM): but it still has nothing illegal does it????
isthatagoodt (11:10:29 PM): i wouldnt go if there was illegla stuff
isthatagoodt (11:10:31 PM): or drinking even
NathanStinson (11:10:35 PM): welll
NathanStinson (11:10:37 PM): if they are
NathanStinson (11:10:45 PM): then they're doing it in secret
BluelineGoddess (11:10:49 PM): no drinking allowed, thingy
isthatagoodt (11:11:21 PM): So it's not some big drug fest that only the ppl who go there see?
NathanStinson (11:11:31 PM): not that I've seen
isthatagoodt (11:11:34 PM): Ok
CieloAzor (11:11:56 PM): I shot up heroin in the basement a few times, but nothing major
CieloAzor (11:12:04 PM): I wouldn't do any hard drugs there

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #193 on:** December 22, 2008, 01:55:00 am »

sterling lost his pot in a police raid on the way up.

jimbo funneled 5 beers but only because he thought it was raw honey.

wonn was lit up and belligerent on PCP the whole time

the swedes were popping pills and listening to electro while qb laid motionless and happy.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #194 on:** December 22, 2008, 03:47:00 am »

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ImPerfect Clark wrote:
the swedes were popping pills and listening to electro while qb laid motionless and happy.

^

NathanStinson · « **Reply #195 on:** December 22, 2008, 04:51:00 pm »

"wonn was lit up and belligerent on PCP the whole time "

dude, seriously. Wonn was up until 4-5 am every day this year, when last year, he didn't even stay up until 1 any night! Something was up!

Lovins · « **Reply #196 on:** December 22, 2008, 06:09:00 pm »

It was the intense Brawl sessions with me, him, Adam and Greg at those times!

dragondragon18 · « **Reply #197 on:** December 22, 2008, 06:32:00 pm »

Also, there girls aren't allowed at the meet either, Jon. I still find it funny that you thought Liz was a guy though

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Worlds-One · « **Reply #198 on:** December 25, 2008, 11:45:00 am »

hahaha clark, thats hilarious!

Girls arent allowed to go? Jody was there the first year and then liz the second year.

As far as drinking and drugs it was just QB hitting the H hard. OK OK you got me, wonn got in on the action too, because david was glitching all over the place and QB was absent.

I also believe 4 way MP, or 2 way championship split screen is the way to go. I would love to see this, I think it would be a totally different game, regardless of knowing the spawn points. This would be more challenging.

Jimbo · « **Reply #199 on:** December 25, 2008, 02:06:00 pm »

Girls are allowed to go obv. I'm gonna be focused a lot more on Kart at these tournaments nowdays (already having a victory in GE and all), so whatever you guys wanted to do in GE is fine with me

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