Author Topic: Scott is mad at me because I posted this exactly on the kart forum. Maybe Matt, Lockwood & others can give some advice. (Read 2848 times)

RWG · « **on:** April 09, 2009, 01:45:00 pm »

Scott has been in the elite chatroom for 2 months now asking us about girls, particularly me (eventhough he acknowledges the fact that I have no field success with girls) and it's getting really annoying.

I suggest him many good things. For example, there is this girl he kind of likes at school. He sent her a facebook message and then asked me for my critique of it.

His message: Hey (name). Uhh, it's probably a bit late at night for you to respond or something, but I'm wondering: What are you up to tomorrow (Thursday) night? I was thinking maybe I could hang out with you or something. Well, perhaps if there was a conflict tomorrow, then some other time this weekend? Or if you're not interested at all then just not, I guess. So, yeah....what do you think about that?

To which I gave him this advice:

RyanWhiteGoose (1:38:48 AM): well, it's ok
RyanWhiteGoose (1:39:00 AM): I mean, you're basically telling her that you're an inconfident pussy
RyanWhiteGoose (1:39:04 AM): but you got the point across
RyanWhiteGoose (1:39:09 AM): which is the main thing at your stage
isthatagoodt (1:39:12 AM): How would it have been better, lol
isthatagoodt (1:39:23 AM): She'll wake up and get it in the morning, I guess :/
RyanWhiteGoose (1:39:34 AM): you shouldn't have cared about "its a bit late"
RyanWhiteGoose (1:39:53 AM): anytime you say "or something" it conveys that you didn't say what you wanted and you're unsure how to phrase what you wanted to say
RyanWhiteGoose (1:40:02 AM): "what are you up to tomorrrow" is too passive
RyanWhiteGoose (1:40:06 AM): again another "or something"
RyanWhiteGoose (1:40:15 AM): no need to talk about the conflict, she'll let you know if there is one
isthatagoodt (1:40:20 AM): Too passive? What should I have said otherwise?
RyanWhiteGoose (1:40:30 AM): the whole "if you're not interested" thing is not attractive, its' very unconfident
RyanWhiteGoose (1:40:45 AM): rather than "what are you up to tomorrow? I was thinking maybe I could hang out with you or something."
RyanWhiteGoose (1:41:11 AM): something like "I'd like to spend some time with you tomorrow, perhaps see a movie and get a bite" would be better

As you can see, Scott is not open to taking my advice, or anyone's advice for that matter. I think I gave him sound advice, and that you guys can back me up on this, but he is just too skeptical.

Scott went on to discuss that after I suggested HE should suggest a date idea to be the man, that he doesn't care what they do. I told him that being picky is actually ATTRACTIVE to women, which he discarded. Hopefully you have my back on this as well.

He then questioned why he is asking me for advice

isthatagoodt (1:45:30 AM): Ryan, FOR FUCKS SAKE....you have NO SUCCESS WITH GIRLS I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I KEEP ASKING YOU SHIT
isthatagoodt (1:45:40 AM): YOU HAVE to be the WORST person for me to be asking this shit
isthatagoodt (1:45:43 AM): Jesus Christ
RyanWhiteGoose (1:45:40 AM): you're comfortable with me
RyanWhiteGoose (1:45:43 AM): I have the book smarts
RyanWhiteGoose (1:46:06 AM): and dude, I might be weak with girls from an intimate point of view, but I am AMAZING with people
RyanWhiteGoose (1:46:09 AM): and interactions
RyanWhiteGoose (1:46:11 AM): and communications
isthatagoodt (1:46:09 AM): Book smarts about girls LOL
isthatagoodt (1:46:39 AM): Blocked

As you can see, Scott pretty much doubts everything I tell him about women, even when it is sound. He gets pissed whenever he doesn't hear what he wants to hear, yet he continues being a pussy all the time.

Hopefully he will come in here and give more examples of his behavior asking for advice. He is very shy and really unwilling to change. Not only is he not open to change, he does not learn, rather he makes the same mistakes over and over. And as someone who has been exactly in his spot, I can see this and I know what he has to do to get a different mentality surrounding women.

Anyways, because of all this I think it's safe to say that he does not want to change, and as a result of his pussy mentality he will likely not have sex with a girl for 3 years or so.

Please help him kart!

Red Bull · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2009, 01:50:00 pm »

Hahahahaha, best post everrrrrrrrrrrr.

RWG · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2009, 01:54:00 pm »

I'm right though.

I have been giving him decent advice for 2 months now. He questions why he is asking me for advice (since I have no experience with girls) but he keeps asking me.

And when I tell him something he doesn't want to hear, he freaks out saying that it can't be true.

All I know is, to get to where I am now, from being in his position, it took me around 3 years of thinking and meditating on things like value, ethics, morals, instincts and other philosophies of life.

I was popular in grade 12 as well. Everyone knew my name. Girls all liked me too. But I still got nothing. Scott needs to realize that he is not different from what I was and that what I am telling him is true and worthwhile. But hey, I can't do it for him. Only you can help yourself.

RWG · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2009, 01:56:00 pm »

I mean he doesn't believe that you can have book smarts about girls... I sympathize with the guy because he thinks he will get laid soon when in reality this goal is years away at his rate of learning.

Matis · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:32:00 pm »

or you could just go up to her in person and ask her if she wants to hang out sometime....

wow that was hard and straight from me who has experience with girls!

RWG · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:39:00 pm »

That is a good idea Matis, but Scott will tell you that "he never sees the girls in school" or that "they are always doing something."

I told him to not care and simply start a conversation whenever he sees them in the hall, but he seems to believe this is inappropriate.

Lark · « **Reply #6 on:** April 09, 2009, 04:09:00 pm »

I can't believe I'm actually saying this but Goose is spot on.

Scott, that message showed her that you aren't confident and insecure. Girls are very good at picking up on this sort of thing. You pretty much defeated yourself in that message, even though she hasn't even responded yet.

TheFlash · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2009, 04:42:00 pm »

Oh, and who saves posts like that on their computer so they can copy/paste them later....that topic was deleted on the MK boards hours before this post was made so Goose had to have had it saved on his computer.

TheFlash · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2009, 04:44:00 pm »

Oh, and I never sent that message. I had already lined up a date with her for Friday before I began that bit of trolling. You got totally owned, but your posting of it completely out of context on the kart forums is what pissed me off. FOR REAL, I HAD A DATE SET UP BEFORE THAT CONVO TOOK PLACE.

RWG · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2009, 05:01:00 pm »

Bad cover up.

TheFlash · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2009, 05:08:00 pm »

You don't believe that I already have a date for Friday, before that whole message?

Wody · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2009, 05:51:00 pm »

bro it doesnt matter as long as hes gonna go out with her on friday and hang out with her. I just read the posts and a lot of them are correct about being confident and showing insecurity though. Its just better to be simple when you say things. The girl is 16 though i mean lets get real she hasnt had that much experience with guys at all so what he said wasnt that bad you know. It probably could have been better. Talking to girls takes a lot of practice if you want to be smooth and shit. It will definitley be better once he is in person with her and can really show what he is like.

RWG · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2009, 09:04:00 pm »

See Scott, my advice was sound and THREE non virgins have already agreed with it. Suck my fucking cock you eternal virgin.

RWG · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2009, 12:41:00 am »

Why all the angst? For your information I had a friend over to watch hockey tonight and then went to McDonald's to meet up with a few more and catch up on things. If you wish to suggest that what I say is untrue, then go ahead, but you are the one who will be incorrect.

Stop holding personal bias against what is the truth.

Everyone in the elite knows that you are wrong with your feelings towards me and your beliefs towards women. You should try to be rational about these things.

TheFlash · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:07:00 am »

Oh my, the voice of the-elite....Ryan White

I can do quite fine in my own life by myself, Ryan.

TheFlash · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:09:00 am »

Goose I own you so bad...you even admit it in your first line of this damn topic, you say how I've been asking you stuff, in particular, even though I know that you don't have any practical experience. WHY do you think I would be asking YOU specifically, then....

RWG · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:17:00 am »

You've been asking me because you are in love with me. Attraction is not a choice. For some given reason, you are extremely attracted to my character. A lot of people are, because I am attractive.

Then, you felt comfortable with me. You were open to me, more open than you were with anyone else. Your emotions were safe with me. I made you feel comfortable by being nice to you, relating to you, sharing common threads with you.

The next step? Well it's seduction. I seduced you into always talking to me and updating me on your situation. I told you what was wrong with your performance, but you wouldn't listen, you wouldn't improve yourself. I got fed up and took action.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

TheFlash · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:19:00 am »

Ryan I am not attracted to your character at all. You do several things which I look down upon.

RWG · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:20:00 am »

Exactly. Why do innocent girls like bad boys? Like I said... ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE.

and until you learn that, you will be hard pressed to find success with women.

TheFlash · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:22:00 am »

Ryan: You can say that as many times as you like, but it will not affect me. I already have a great chance with this really nice girl that I'm seeing again tomorrow night. She likes me, I like her. I'm able to handle things between myself and another person, you know.

RWG · « **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:24:00 am »

inb4 "lets just be friends"

TheFlash · « **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:25:00 am »

RWG · « **Reply #22 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:27:00 am »

See, you don't even know what "let's just be friends" means. How can you honestly believe you have a shot with her?

TheFlash · « **Reply #23 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:29:00 am »

How can you believe I don't?

Do you even know how I act or what I'm like in real life?

No, you don't.

All you know is how I act in group chats and IMs to you online, and a bit on forums. You cannot possibly know what I am like in real life.

RWG · « **Reply #24 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:30:00 am »

And you don't know how I act like in real life either so that excuse is entirely void.

TheFlash · « **Reply #25 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:32:00 am »

That doesn't make that excuse void, it makes the entire argument pointless. The thing with it is it's true.

Red Bull · « **Reply #26 on:** April 10, 2009, 02:46:00 am »

Cool!

flukey lukey · « **Reply #27 on:** April 10, 2009, 04:21:00 am »

<3 this topic

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #28 on:** April 10, 2009, 10:27:00 am »

Quote from: homeonice

<3 this topic

QFT... this topic is EPIC... fail!

Thiradell · « **Reply #29 on:** April 10, 2009, 11:15:00 am »

Hmm, well I think both people involved in this feud are at fault, but...I'm not going to get involved. *Backs away slowly*

TheFlash · « **Reply #30 on:** April 10, 2009, 08:05:00 pm »

Well, before everyone gets mad I'm going to have to admit a pretty large failure on tonight's plans.

I was all pumped up to go to a movie with this girl, but a few hours ago I was informed by her that we wouldn't be able to do it because she found out she had to go to church tonight, as it's Good Friday.

I have been in a somewhat agitated state since finding this out.

I think I will have to find some other girl from now on. This one probably isn't interested in me.

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #31 on:** April 10, 2009, 08:41:00 pm »

kthnksbi

flukey lukey · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2009, 02:31:00 pm »

church is the cause for all failure, as we can see

RWG · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2014, 12:57:55 am »

The fact Scott actually ended up marrying this girl is incredible. A testament to anyone struggling with women that any man can succeed.

SimThreat · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2014, 03:04:58 am »

Wtf... Cereal?

Carathorn · « **Reply #35 on:** July 03, 2014, 03:12:13 am »

He basically married because of you, Goose. I take it you were invited for the wedding?

ManceGaydar · « **Reply #36 on:** July 03, 2014, 08:50:13 am »

Could be the best thread in the history of this forum.

Lark · « **Reply #37 on:** July 03, 2014, 01:06:50 pm »

Thingy's marriage proposal probably went something like this:

Hey um, nighttime has fallen upon us, but I'm wondering: Would you like to get married or something? I was thinking maybe we could spend the rest of our lives together. If this is an inconvenience, then maybe some other day. Or if you have a complete lack of interest, perhaps never, I guess. So, what are your thoughts about this?

wheatrich · « **Reply #38 on:** July 03, 2014, 05:09:00 pm »

If I'm thingy I just make one more post

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OHMSS · « **Reply #39 on:** July 06, 2014, 05:17:38 am »

Quote from: 2:14.68 Switch on April 09, 2009, 01:45:00 pm

Uhh, it's probably a bit late at night for you to respond or something, but I'm wondering: What are you up to tomorrow (Thursday) night? I was thinking maybe I could hang out with you or something. Well, perhaps if there was a conflict tomorrow, then some other time this weekend? Or if you're not interested at all then just not, I guess. So, yeah....what do you think about that?

Boo!

SimThreat · « **Reply #40 on:** July 06, 2014, 10:55:37 am »

+5 points for the David D "attraction is not a choice" reference.
+10 points for the use of Mystery Method (attraction, comfort, seduction) phases.

Funny how Goose behaved the EXACT same way when he was talking to me about girls. It must have been before this post cause he incorporated a lot of advice that I feel I exposed him to. But back in the day, I would give Ryan advice on girls and he would disagree and get upset.

But seriously, after a lot of hard work, reflection and learning Ryan has turned out pretty good.

SimThreat · « **Reply #41 on:** July 06, 2014, 10:56:21 am »

Coach K.. strikes again.

RWG · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2014, 07:58:56 pm »

it's true Karl. Thank you. It takes a while for all the education about attracting women to resonate with you; and even longer to gain experiences that show it, but it's mostly accurate. It's not rocket science. This thread was made even 2 years before I had sex. Learning how to be good with women is a QUEST. A quest I have no idea how Scott conquered.

Lark · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2014, 09:41:52 pm »

Thingy found a girl that he was compatible with. I doubt he "used any moves" on her. In the original post, he mentioned that she was a Catholic girl. For the most part, they're normally shy and don't have any experience. That's a perfect situation for Thingy. Whatever the case may be, good for him. That's a huge milestone.

Shadow · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2014, 08:30:47 am »

Why are all the guys giving advice in this thread still single 5 years later?

Darth Vader · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2014, 12:46:25 pm »

RWG · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2014, 05:12:17 pm »

Quote from: Shadow on July 07, 2014, 08:30:47 am

Why are all the guys giving advice in this thread still single 5 years later?

Um, we're not?

Spec · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2014, 06:40:16 pm »

This forum should have a seduction board, full of inner game principles, shared field experience and lay reports, for the aspiring elite lovers who want to find true legit love in this short life of ours. Ok not necessarily but this story was really cool!

Thiradell · « **Reply #48 on:** July 09, 2014, 02:53:54 am »

Quote from: Captain Planet on July 06, 2014, 10:55:37 am

+5 points for the David D "attraction is not a choice" reference.
+10 points for the use of Mystery Method (attraction, comfort, seduction) phases.

Funny how Goose behaved the EXACT same way when he was talking to me about girls. It must have been before this post cause he incorporated a lot of advice that I feel I exposed him to. But back in the day, I would give Ryan advice on girls and he would disagree and get upset.

But seriously, after a lot of hard work, reflection and learning Ryan has turned out pretty good.

infinite lol

TheFlash · « **Reply #49 on:** July 14, 2014, 04:01:16 am »

Cool. But this isn't the same girl. I do admit that was my first attempt ever to talk to a girl. Maybe some of you started at an earlier age. Whatever.

I met my wife like 2 weeks after this happened though. Glad I didn't get stuck too long on this one. I think this is the part where I have to give Goose some credit. He helped me out with this gem from the very first night I ever talked to her.

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10:39:57 PM RyanWhiteGoose: ok now you have to talk about something completely random
10:40:00 PM RyanWhiteGoose: she'll respond
10:40:10 PM RyanWhiteGoose: like "omg lol sorry, what should we talk about"
10:40:13 PM RyanWhiteGoose: and say something RETARDED
10:40:18 PM RyanWhiteGoose: like "unicorns"

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10:40pmSophia
ya sorry
new topic

10:40pmScott
ok
what do you know about unicorns

10:41pmSophia
that is the most random thing ever..well

10:41pmScott
haha

10:41pmSophia
i know they can be really annoying
according to the youtube vieo
*video

10:42pmScott
haha i never seen this
what is it?

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10:41:16 PM RyanWhiteGoose: see, I know women
10:42:21 PM RyanWhiteGoose: omg she knows about Charlie the Unicorn

Guess life can be pretty random sometimes.

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Author Topic: Scott is mad at me because I posted this exactly on the kart forum. Maybe Matt, Lockwood & others can give some advice. (Read 2848 times)