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« on: April 19, 2009, 03:28:00 pm »
Why does everyone here think they are an english professor? everytime someone doesnt spell something correct or doesnt use propper grammar, when you can easily tell what they are saying.  im thinking about from now one ill be like one of you guys... if i ever come across a post that says

hey whats up! I will immidiatly attack! by saying! wow! cant capitalize Hey! or maybe if i see something bad... like.......... really bad..... such as ....................... wasnt    ...... !!!!!! woooooooooo actually ill let you guys correct that... hurry, im sure it will be corrected in no time.

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 04:55:00 pm »
simple answer to your question = we do it for the LOLZ!

p.s. - don't take things so seriously guy!


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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 05:52:00 pm »
propper

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 05:54:00 pm »
Someone needs to correct you since you won't look after yourself.

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 09:56:00 pm »
it's also a cheap way of not having to deal with the content of your post. like "you can't even spell it right so I won't pay attention to your post"

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 03:12:00 am »
cause people are anal about that stuff... like they are better at it then someone else and have to critique you over it. I know my grammar sucks but i dont give a shit. Bring me some art and I'll tell you, that you suck.

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 04:13:00 am »
Eventually you reach a stage when you're not a wanker and you realise that nothing as trivial as that is worth commenting on.

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 06:02:00 am »
then

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 12:19:00 pm »
It's not our fault your failed high school English class.

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 01:14:00 pm »
i passed.

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 03:56:00 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 05:46:00 pm »
ROFLtopic!


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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 09:38:00 pm »
Since you asked... (and this is not directed at anyone in particular, just imagine me talking about your "average GameFAQs poster")

In my opinion, your ability to communicate using your primary language is a direct reflection on your personality and your intelligence. If you are unable to distinguish between your/you're, its/it's, and there/their/they're, simple concepts that are taught to you in Grade 3, why would I listen to anything you have to say? And this is NOT the same as just simply being too lazy to type correctly; that's usually nothing more than a front. People who have poor spelling/grammar almost always don't know any better.

Typing on the internet is just like hygiene. It's the first impression you put forth, and people can tell a lot about you by a simple glance. You wouldn't not take a shower and get cleaned up before going out to a club, and then just say "hey, I'm a nice guy, who cares about this stuff? Get to know me and I'm great." No, you'd look after yourself. You don't need to be an English professor to understand the difference between your/you're, and if you can't spell "difficult" words like ridiculous or definitely with any sort of consistency, you're demonstrating just as much about your general intelligence as someone who doesn't brush their teeth before a date.

English is your first language, and you've been speaking and writing it your life. There is no excuse for not being able to use its basics at a competent level.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 09:44:00 pm »
And I'll expand on that by saying: picking apart small errors in someone's post (like my typo of "whole life" above) is not the same as critiquing someone's basic comprehension of the English language. Typos happen to everyone, and they're no big deal. But when people form trends by proving they're unable to use their primary language with any level of competence, it's a pretty solid indicator of how well they're able to form any coherent, intelligent thought.

Not to mention, when the grammar and spelling are bad, entire posts can become completely unintelligible. Whatever amazing idea is hidden in that person's brain is stifled by an inability to communicate it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 09:45:00 pm »
easy does it now...


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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 03:13:00 am »
actually infiltrater, spelling as nothing to do with intelligence, but sometimes people type, "nothign" just an easy common mistake from fast typers and people who are cool "aka type fancy to make themselves seem intelligent" will be like, umm whats nothign? nothig nnnnnn ummm... yeah im cool.

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 03:59:00 am »
I'm not talking about a one-off spelling mistake in an otherwise well-formulated post. I'm talking about people who literally don't know how to spell certain key words, and you know what you read on the page is how they intended for it to be read.

Just think about it. When you try to insult someone over the internet, what's the first thing you do? You intentionally make your spelling/grammar as bad as possible, trying to make a mockery of their intelligence. These two things are not correlated by accident.

When I see sentences like "actually your right, it was pretty rediculous", I know they don't know how to properly use the English language. Those aren't typos.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 09:20:00 am »
That isn't the issue though. The issue is POINTING IT OUT. What's so important about intelligence anyway? (rhetorical, please). There are many other paths in life. Some of my best friends are fucking dumb, but they have value elsewhere. Sure, consider the posts stupid cos they probably are.......

LOLZ! i have totally changed my view point. I can't possibly agree with this.

EXACTLY, they have value elsewhere. So tell them to fuck off and keep out of an argument where they have no use. Ignore those idiots. ffs how hard is to spell.

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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 02:24:00 pm »
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When I see sentences like "actually your right, it was pretty rediculous", I know they don't know how to properly use the English language.   Those aren't typos.

ummm not really cause i type like that all the time. I know how to use proper english language. Why do i have to focus so intensely on that when everyone can read it. Your statement is kind of false. I had this convo with ryan going over every little thing i type. I just choose not to type that way cause i dont feel like it. When the time comes for like a resume or paper i can type proper english fine. Just kind of a bitch move you are doing.

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2009, 05:30:00 pm »
wot u on about

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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 06:47:00 pm »
I don't see the point of the whole "let's focus on proper English when making a post" thingy. I mean, it's not even my second language, and as far as I'm concerned I don't make too many (obvious) mistakes. It shouldn't even be the case that you are focusing on using correct grammar and stuff, but it should come natural; especially if it's your primary language.

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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 07:02:00 pm »
THINK ABOUT IT

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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 07:11:00 pm »
So annoying that you cannot edit posts in FFA. Last post in this topic of mine, "secondary" should be "primary" obviously, but whatever, everyone gets the point.

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 10:17:00 pm »
maybe if your English skills were proper you wouldn't have to worry about that would you...

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 10:47:00 pm »
Did you even read my post? I explicitly said that I don't pick apart people's posts who make small typos, or misplace a word with another (as Bully did with secondary/primary), because those are just simple mistakes. I'm talking about people who literally don't know the difference between your and you're. If you do know the difference, and just insist on always typing it wrong, then I think that's just silly. If you do know the difference, just press the one extra key. It's not hard. Similarly, spelling "ridiculous" correctly is the same number of keystrokes as the most common misspelling. Laziness has nothing to do with it. People simply don't know the correct spelling. For very uncommon, complicated words, that's fine. For words you use multiple times per day, it's not (in my opinion).

Here's my take on it. If you went to school, this type of stuff should be second nature to you by now. If you still struggle with these very foundational concepts, and it's not natural for you to type the correct usage of there/their/they're or your/you're by now, what does that say about this person? They're lazy, or they never fully understood this fairly simple concept that's taught to everyone at an early age? How can it be laziness when it's the same number of keystrokes (or  1) to express the idea correctly? Again, this "you" is not anyone specifically in this thread, but just the general population where applicable.

As a concrete example, consider this Youtube private message I just got. Can you decipher this? "C.Viper is my 2nd fav person can you tell my the 3rd trial stick motions plese i wont her lego head realy bad" Now, read that and tell me you don't make a judgment on that person's intelligence and ability to communicate ideas clearly. He probably thinks I'll have no problem reading that, because it's "close enough" to what he means. I have literally no clue what that sentence means.

As another example, let's say you go to a forum where 90% of the people talk with proper sentence structure and spelling (the Penny Arcade forums come to mind immediately). Then, you go to a forum where very few people do (say, GameFAQs). Where do you think you'll read more worthwhile posts?

Grammar/spelling isn't the be-all-end-all of the internet, but you CAN make (usually accurate) first impressions about people based on it. And in a context where you are judged SOLELY based on what you write, why not write properly if you want people to read your posts?
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2009, 01:00:00 am »
relax dude
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2009, 02:17:00 am »
Eh, I'm only posting this because someone asked the question, and wanted an explanation. I'm giving mine, that's all. I'm not targeting you, or Matis, or anyone else by name.

In fact, I don't think my posts sound angry or frustrated at all! I'm just stating my opinion and giving reasons.
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2009, 03:21:00 am »
in my way it seems you are directing it toward us who don't really care. they kinda do sound mean.

i know how to type it and you say just why not use 2 extra letters cause it'll take no time. I would but don't feel like it.

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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2009, 03:55:00 am »
Learn to read. Infil just said that certain words take as much "effort" to type as the misspelled equivalent words.

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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 04:31:00 am »
Most often, yeah, that's the case. Sometimes it's one extra keystroke (your -> youre, two if you want to add the apostrophe), but words like definately, tommorow, and rediculous have the same number of keystrokes/letters/effort as the correct counterparts.

This is a bit of an extreme example, but it's similar to me to going on a date and not taking the time to comb your hair or brush your teeth. Sure, it takes only 30-45 seconds if you're in a rush (a fraction of the time you'd spend showering/getting dressed, i.e., probably the same amount of effort it takes to press a few extra keys to spell a word right during your average-length post), but some people might just be lazy and not do it. Then, when people ask them why they look the way they do, they just say "eh, I could have, but I was lazy". Sure, it's their prerogative to do this, but people will form opinions (typically negative ones) about it.

No, I'm not saying spelling on the internet and going on a date are of the same importance, but the parallels are there for me.

Plus, if a person spells like this on the internet, they form bad habits and it becomes ingrained for when spelling really does matter (say, emails with a boss/professor or resume/cover letter stuff).

I still say, if you know how to spell a word, why would you intentionally spell it wrong? It just makes no sense to me. Thus, I'm left to believe that people who spell words wrong, aside from obvious typos, simply don't know the correct spelling or usage of a word. I don't see why this isn't a fair judgment.

Disclaimer: I'm not mad, nor am I frustrated. I don't mean anyone physical or emotional harm by this. I am not saying anyone in this thread is ugly or has bad hygiene. My intention is not to get people pissed off at me. I'm honestly curious why someone would intentionally spell a word wrong. To me, that's like intentionally going out into public with your zipper down.
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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2009, 05:16:00 am »
holy crap infil get a life

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2009, 05:17:00 am »
learn to not be gay max and jump on me when I type something... your starting to sound like goose and durk.

I know the correct usage of the word and the differences between they're, there, their, we're, where, etc...it doesn't matter to me that it takes a couple seconds because I know when I need to use them I can. I do not feel and I'm sure others feel as well that they don't care and aren't anal or think so "drastically" into this as you.

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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2009, 05:45:00 am »
Never mind then.

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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2009, 10:08:00 am »
What's wrong with durky?!!?

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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2009, 11:12:00 am »
It's cool to spell words intentionally wrong on the intarwebz.

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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2009, 12:38:00 pm »
Hehe Infil is having a field day. Don't be discouraged, you have good points!
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« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2009, 02:42:00 pm »
hohoho oahahah hehehe haha hoho h o hh eheh
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« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2009, 11:37:00 pm »
Infil has typed everything I normally say when this topic comes up.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2009, 02:57:00 am »

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