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« on: October 17, 2009, 06:58:00 pm »
Just like the GE topic, ask anything about PD you want here!
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 07:24:00 pm »
Can you train my speed, speedruntrainer?

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 07:29:00 pm »
Yes, hopefully fast enough to warp the lasers in investigation!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 07:31:00 pm »
Hahahahah, what the hell! You're the coolest guy EVER!

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 08:13:00 pm »
What is the key to Villa 1:05?
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2009, 08:40:00 pm »
be fast
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2009, 09:10:00 pm »
Yeah that is quite obvivous i think i got it now man thanks!!!
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2009, 11:46:00 pm »
now go get 1:05 then
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 12:00:00 am »
Like 1:06 ain't insane enough. It's too good to exist!
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 01:45:00 am »
Some old line was something like "Paragon reckons 1:13 villa A is could be possible, even without the stair jump"

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2009, 02:10:00 am »
Haha! It's like checking the old GE topics where some said Archives 0:17 was impossible.
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2009, 12:02:00 pm »
you just need to be more insane =)


you will play villa or just made a random question? xP
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2009, 01:23:00 pm »

It turned out to be a random question, but Villa is quite fun so i'll probably stick to that level in the future though i'm not going to play any other levels except Deep Sea maybe. 1:06 is quite insane though it's like a Train 1:00 imo. I'm not in position of claiming what i'm aiming for though till i get a new controller

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2009, 03:06:00 pm »
deep sea lol

i doubt you can play only this $%$# level :P

but good luck!
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 03:05:00 pm »
Extraction Agent, I watched videos, but why the Rocket Launcher doesn't blow up the guards needed for objective 2?
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 05:04:00 pm »
lol, you gotta get the rocked to explode right inbetwen all the bodyguards, youre just prolly shooting too far right or left. Its quite easy once you get it.

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2009, 02:19:00 pm »
Escape Agent - The level doesn't end? I do exactly the same thing like the wr videos. I place Jonathan a couple of feets up to the ramp and i start to run right when she says "But" to activate the consoles but the level doesn't end. What could i do wrong here? I got the level to end once, but it doesn't work anymore lol.
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2009, 02:22:00 pm »
Press the B button twice on the first console.

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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2009, 02:27:00 pm »
Thanks!!
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2009, 10:44:00 pm »
What's the pace if i get 1:00 pause out at the bomb place when Jonathon is approaching it? (In case i missed killing the guards in the room or Jonathan was too slow) Just want to know if it's the beginning/mid game or the ending i'm losing time.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 10:52:00 pm »
1:00 is pretty bad.

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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2009, 10:56:00 pm »
So what's the pace??
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 12:28:00 am »
56 or so

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2009, 10:22:00 am »
For Elvis to complete, you gotta be either very fast or very slow. If you are fast enough, elvis does a little warp (I think). If you are slow, he will kinda follow you and don't lose your path. Or you can be also very lucky for elvis to be fast even if you are not that fast, or something like that. We don't know for sure. For me, doing it very fast guarantees (or used to) the completion about 30% or so. And 1:36 pauseout is preety bad, you should get like 1:15

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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2009, 10:55:00 am »
1:15 gives what vitor? I don't think he's ready to match those tt's, i doubt even I can do it.

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2009, 12:24:00 pm »
I get 1:17's, but always end up with a 2:14 Anyway, Attack Ship Agent is the easiest level to speedrun in PD. Not much to it, really. Escape Agent is just gay Elvis is acting like a fucking faggot i feel like shooting him all the time.
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2009, 12:38:00 pm »
My 2:10 (which had like 2:07 potential) had a 1:13 door, so hmm yeah. 1:20 should give you around 2:15

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2009, 03:03:00 pm »
Ok how the fuck do i do the farsight shots on Deep Sea Agent? I have Target Locater on, i go underneath that 6th. tube and zoom, but where the hell is the targets? After watching videos, those targets looks like doors, but there's nothing like that when i zoom i've shot everywhere lol.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2009, 07:38:00 pm »
Can you never ask a question in a normal way?

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2009, 08:11:00 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2009, 08:38:00 pm »
Hmm.. What is the "normal way"?
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2009, 09:46:00 pm »
I have the same problem with the Farsight anyway. I ever completed obj. 2 But it takes some time. in the videos you don't see if you turn left or right right after shooting the 1st tube (you need to shoot 2)

The only thing I know is you need to switch to full screen right before the warp (if you are widescreen.)
And yes, Target Locator ofcourse.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2009, 03:11:00 am »
Damn, i'm cinema
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2009, 10:29:00 am »
Ah thanks Nick. worked with full screen. That's wierd though..
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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2009, 07:21:00 am »
Got some question on CI:

What's the exact requirements for Objective 1 to complete(Agent)? I read you need to visit all rooms and save 2 hosts but that's obviously not everything?

I know getting the devastator has to do with all hostages being alive, so when doing YE's strat, does speed matter? I mean the faster you go the bigger chance of them being alive?? Any other way to improve chances of getting one?

Sometimes you do all objectives, get to ending but for some reason the level won't end as usual, Carrington's last message has been delayed, why? And overall how does the messages work and affect the level?

Also any tips on the devastator shot(YE's strat) is highly appreciated. I can only get it to work like 1/15 or something when mimicing vids.


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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2009, 11:16:00 am »
Isn't it 2 hostages? :O

And the last message will be delayed if you start the uplink before one of Carrington's messages, I don't remember which. But that's luck (even though it won't happen that often), as the messages are triggered by events. On that case, it's obj 1 I think. If you complete it as you are approaching the rcp, changes that you will get the message bug are higher.

I might be wrong, so someone can correct me.

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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2009, 12:50:00 pm »
Sounds good anyway, Should mean that an early obj 1 complete(like YE's strat) it shouldn't be possible to get there too early since you should have like 8-10 seconds to spare compared to normal strat?

And about those hostages what confuses me is that we always save 2 hostages manually, but the objective doesn't complete anyway. Even when all doors have been opened and 2 hostages are saved it doesn't complete. You need to kill some more takers?



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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2009, 01:29:00 pm »
For the number of hostages on agent you only need to save 2 but you need to "finish all the job" by killing/save all the other hostages.

For the Devastator, I'm not sure but I think you need that all the hosts are alive + the bitch look at you before the guy (hostage), otherwise this will be the guy that will give you the Devastator. (In this way, if you hear the guy talk before get the Devastator, you have fail). So yeah, the faster you'll be in front of the bithc, the faster you'll be able to get the Devastator. The TT is a mid or high 15.XX.

I don't really know why sometimes the ending is fucked up but I know that if Carrington doesn't say "Things are desesperate..." when you upling, the ending will be fucked.

For the Devastator shot, I think it's a big part of practice (That I need me too), sometimes I can get 1 in an hour session and sometimes 7 in an hour session. But the tips I can give you is to try to place you exactly like in the WR vids and right when you got it, you pause and reselect the Devastator, and after that you can start to run to the door (don't slow down) and press Z as many shot that you can, so the timing is supposed to be exactly at the good time and the shot will work. Oh and if the obj isn't completed right after the shot, don't stop your run. I already had an obj 1 completed just right before I get the RCP.

This is what I know for now about this level. Taka may know better about it so maybe we'll have the chance to get some explanations from him... but I doubt.

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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2009, 04:11:00 pm »
"Sounds good anyway, Should mean that an early obj 1 complete(like YE's strat) it shouldn't be possible to get there too early since you should have like 8-10 seconds to spare compared to normal strat?"

Yeah, that's right. And like Brio said, you have to save two, but all the others have to be released or killed in order to complete the objective. What happens sometimes is when you get into the rcp room and a hostage is fighting with a guard somewhere you can't see. I think that's the only place that can fuck up. On the other rooms you either save both (at the first room you enter) or they get killed very fast.

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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2009, 08:04:00 pm »
Okay thanks guys.

The shot is a real bitch though, it seems i'm doing it exactly like all vids but i usually end up with neither fail nor complete, i guess for instant complete you need all the guys in other room dead? I'm prolly gonna have to practise on this using emulator or something...



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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2009, 09:24:00 pm »
If you find some tips about this strat, don,t be shy to say us, I'll be really happy to know more about this strat!

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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2010, 02:02:00 pm »
2 questions

-On deep sea (NTSC), how can I avoid Elvis giving me the farsight??? I can do it some times but it's just luck.. I can't replicate it properly when I need to...

-What are all the necessary things to make the CI glitch to work.. everything please.. the pace to launch the boost, when it should ends, a tutorial for dummies really

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2010, 03:34:00 pm »
Yeah avoiding Elvis isn't that easy to do I think, I always had problems with that too. If anyone could give a good tip on how to do it, even I would appreciate it haha.

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2010, 04:47:00 pm »
I remember on Agent it was very easy, i never had problems, i think i just run to the left :P

on Secret Agent I only remember when Matt did it he needed to duck first, but i never managed to do that hehe
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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2010, 06:17:00 pm »
Well, for DS, as far as I remember, it's not really hard, you only have to bypass Elvis furthest as you can. If you "touch" him, it's sure he'll give you the Farsight. But, yeah I tryed to speedrun this level maybe 1/2 hours since I understand that you have to avoid Elvis giving you the Farsight, so I'm not the best person to help you but this is what I know about this. If I good remember I think that pass right of him is easier than pass left of him. Btw, when you'll get this trick right, if you can explain us how it's work exactly it can be nice, because I'm curious about it too.

For Defense, If you are on a WR run you have to put the Combat Boost as quick as you can (to get the warp sooner), depending how quick you can kill the Hostages guards. Generally, I put it right (or a bit later) when I enter in the elevator. Well, for the rest of the strat here is the link of the discovered of Henrik, you should be able to manage it with all those explanations: http://perfectdarkelite.yuku.com?topic=15019

In adition, Bryan found another way (maybe more easier, I don't really know, because for me I find it harder for the 1/2 hours I practice his trick) to manage the warp, so you can watch his vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6VKKquHvvw
The trick is about to start to switch guns between Laser and AR34, so you press A/A+Z (or the opposit) quickly before you are at the warp place (don't stop to switch guns until the warp work) , and then when the Combat Boost stop, you prepare yourself to hit start ASAP to put your last Combat Boost. This trick is more consistency according to Bryan , so well, it's you to see what strat you prefer.

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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2010, 05:38:00 am »
Yeah I can't remember if you HAVE to duck to avoid elvis... or I just did duck. Either way, as soon as you warp, you should hold back and left (or right ?), then when elvis approaches the side you're on, dodge to the other side and go around him.

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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2010, 05:40:00 am »
Hmm maybe you even just hold left at first, wait for him to come to you a bit, then go purely back to the wall, then go right and dodge.

hehe when I figured it out I was using emulator so I had a save state just before the warp. Guess it's harder on console.

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« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2010, 08:35:00 am »
Yeah, if I good remember it's looks like that You hold right (or left) strafe during the warp, and then you dodge Elvis. I never try it on emulator, but on console it's not hard to work when you catch it.

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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2010, 07:37:00 pm »
theres no secret in Agent, if it was hard then deep sea would be much more annyoing than it already is =P
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2010, 10:43:00 pm »
I agree with chuck, my real problem is on SA... I ducked and that didn't worked

When I appear at the other side Elvis give the farsight immediatly, he doesn't even run in my direction first...