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'09 GNC - Complete Results and VID.NOW!
« on: November 25, 2009, 01:50:00 am »


Defending Champ Ngamer puts his title on the line against Number One Contender Thingy in a 9 event battle to decide once and for all.... well, some kind of thing.

Give it a download!

http://ngamer.speedrunwiki.com/2009GNC-NgvsThingy.avi

OR, you could stream it on youtube.
Stream Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSbmfcuc_DI
Stream Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSw-ssglHCo
Stream Part Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ALtpq86ck
Stream Part Four: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okWlfqlXDcM

Jimbo is behind the camera the whole while (aside from when he's getting his brains tackled out near the end), and we certainly tip our hats to him for driving down to do that.

Everything below this line will contain spoilers (well, inside the tags at least), so continue to scroll at your own risk!
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2009 GNC Results

Event One: Penalty Kicks
Favorite: Ngamer
Ng - 13, Thingy - 9 (<-- number of predictions for each)
QB Odds Favorite: Ngamer (-125)

Thingy Says: This is really going to depend on how well I am able to play the goalkeeper.  In the RMC 2009 I had no thought in the world that I would even get one goal in the penalty kicks, but somehow I made 2 of 3.  I just used my toe to kick the ball, first shot right foot and made it, second shot left foot and missed high, and 3rd shot right footed and made it.  I was able to consistently hit the same spot with the right foot in the later rounds.  Jon has a lot of goalie experience and probably quite a bit more kicking experience, so I'm going to give that one to him.
Ng Says: I've traditionally performed fairly well in goal, and certainly have enough experience there after this Summer, but Thingy was scary-accurate with his kicks this August.  That sure didn't look like a fluke from where I was standing... I think he takes this without too much trouble.
Result?  
Spoiler
   
    Thingy defeats Ngamer 3 goals to 2    
   
    Note: It took a fantastic save from Thingy and some terrible goaltending by myself (how did I allow two goals kicked to the exact same location?), but in the end Thingy took this comfortably, nice work by him.    
 

Event Two: Basketball - Around the World
Favorite: Ngamer
Ng - 18, Thingy - 4
QB Odds Favorite: Ngamer (-200)

Thingy Says: This event should be no contest at all.  I'm pitiful at making shots, although I like this timed event better than free throws, as Jon's pretty good at those.
Ng Says: Thingy flat out did not look comfortable with a basketball in his hands this August.  I would be quite embarrassed to be bested in this event, but a choke from me here is still a distinct possibility (especially considering the added pressure of working against the clock).
Result?  
Spoiler
   
    Ng defeats Thingy 7 baskets to 4    
   
    Note: As always, the GNC took place outdoors on crazy-tight unforgiving rims, which I luckily bypassed in the early going!  Still can't believe none of     those shots from the final location would fall for me.    
 

Event Three: Football Toss - Accuracy
Favorite: Ngamer
Ng - 13, Thingy - 9
QB Odds Favorite: Ngamer (-115)

Thingy Says: Jon has a pretty accurate arm, but I think I can match him.  When we played catch on his street this August I thought we were both about equally talented at hitting our targets.
Ng Says: Thingy's a good athlete, but I like to think I throw the pigskin a bit more naturally.  Entirely possible that he easily tops me here, especially after my choke in this event at the RMC, but I'm optimistic regarding my chances.
Result?  
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    Ngamer defeats Thingy 16 throws to 10    
   
    Note: With the scoring system here you wanted FEWER total throws.  Also I mess up the scoring in my intro- if you miss on all 4 you get charged 5 throws,     not just 4.  Anyways I'm still shocked at my opening toss from 20 yards!  

Event Four: Jumping
Favorite: Ngamer
Ng - 13, Thingy - 9
QB Odds Favorite: Thingy (-180)

Thingy Says: I should be able to beat Jon here.  I just tested my vertical at well over 20 inches, while Jon only managed 20 and a half or so in the GNC 2008.  I also tested my standing long jump and on just one attempt indoors with a wall in front of me I did about 9 feet, it seemed pretty far.
Ng Says: Athletically, my legs are probably my strongest advantage over the average Eliter in a competition like this.  If I can't manage to take 2 of 3 from Thingy here, I'm toast.
Result?  
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    Ngamer wins Long Jump at 14 feet 8 inches (to Thingy's 13' 9 1/2")    
    Thingy wins Broad Jump at 9 feet 0 inches (to Ng's 8' 7 1/2")    
    Ngamer wins Vertical Leap at 21 1/2 inches (to Thingy's 18")    
    Ngamer wins the overall Jumping Event 2-1    
   
    Note: That standing long jump is nutzo- I'm killing myself and stretching out for every millimeter while Thingy takes a casual step out of the bathtub     in the morning and just about equals me!  Here's hoping the next GNC is between two people of equal height!    
 

Event Five: 40 Yard Dash
Favorite: Thingy
QB - 14, Ng - 8
QB Odds Favorite: Thingy (-140)

Thingy Says: We were only a half-step apart or so in the RMC 2009 Dash finals, but that was in summer and sun and heat while this will be in cold weather, where I should perform better.
Ng Says: This should be close, but I believe that Thingy just edged me at this event in Virginia and I'm not seeing a reason for that result to be reversed this weekend.
Result?  
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    Ngamer defeats Thingy by 3 yards (or so) with a run of 5.31 seconds (or so)    
   
    Note: For the first time in my life I had a Dash where I didn't get off to a horrible start, and this time I wasn't totally gassed from 30 minutes     of goaltending on sand in the hot sun.  Seems to have paid off!    
 

Event Six: 400 Meter Marathon
Favorite: Ngamer
Ng - 16, Thingy - 6
QB Odds Favorite: Ngamer (-155)

Thingy Says: I expect to die.
Ng Says: Though Thingy can probably out-quick me in nearly any situation, I like my chances when greater distances are involved.  This is probably the event I have the most confidence in.  As with Jumps, if I can't sneak out a win here, we're going to be looking at a pretty ugly landslide.
Result?  
Spoiler
   
    Ngamer defeats Thingy, 71.30 seconds to... much more than that.    
   
    Note: I have quite a bit of experience running 400s and know what often happens to people in the second half... even so I was shocked at how fantastic     Thingy looked at about the 150 meter mark!  Yes I was holding back and baiting him a bit, knowing I'd have plenty of kick for the final stretch, but     still, he had me very nervous up until the middle of the second turn.    
 

Event Seven: Jimbo Rush Defense
Favorite: Thingy
Thingy - 17, Ng - 5
QB Odds Favorite: Thingy (-210)

Thingy Says: This one could go either way, I don't know if Jim is going to be running like a maniac or really quick and shifty or power running or how hard we're supposed to go on him or anything...I'll pick myself, but I really don't like this event and hope no one gets hurt.
Ng Says: I have a decent bit of experience at tackling larger opponents, but as Jim said he's no longer the big slow bowling ball that he once was, so Thingy's size and strength should give him a major advantage here.
Result?  
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    Ng forces Jim out at the 12    
    Thingy forces a fumble at the 8    
    Ng spears Jim down at the 4    
    Thingy trips Jim up at the 6    
   
    Thingy defeats Ngamer by allowing fewer yards (14 to 16)    
   
    Note: Jim's 6 inch, 40 lbs advantage had me too cautious on my first attempt.  Getting aggressive that second time around sure worked out for me (even     though it hurt like heck)!    
 

Event Eight: Sumo
Favorite: Thingy
Thingy - 19, Ng - 3
QB Odds Favorite: Thingy (-385)

Thingy Says: I should be able to take Jon in Sumo.  He has a bad track record there and I have some size on him.
Ng Says: Down 20+ lbs to an opponent with considerable wrestling experience, in an event I'm no good at in the first place?  Yeah, can't say I love my chances!
Result?  
Spoiler
   
    Ngamer TIES Thingy, 1 to 1    
   
    Note: Thingy's superior wrestling technique had me off balance that entire first round, so the second time around I just bull rushed him, with some     better results.  Even so it seemed I'd lost and we called off the match, until a couple hours later when watching this event back we saw that without a     doubt Thingy's hand had touched out before my body struck the ground!  By then it was too dark and too late to do another round, so I ended up lucking     out with a draw here.    
 

Event Nine: Arm Wrestling
Favorite: Thingy
Thingy - 16, Ngamer - 6
QB Odds Favorite: Thingy (-340)

Thingy Says: This event should go to me, even though I haven't done it in a long time.  Jim had to fight pretty hard against Jon in the 2006 GNC, but I actually think I could go pretty even with Jim in arm wrestling.  I have strong shoulder muscles and wrists, which are both more important in arm wrestling than pecs or biceps, I think.
Ng Says: I put up a better than expected fight against Jim, but am envisioning a mirror repeat of that defeat in this event.
Result?  
Spoiler
   
    Thingy defeats Ngamer with a pin in 14 seconds (or so)    
   
    Note: Yikes, I once again got out to a bad start, making it 2x as much work to try and come back.  Jimbo took offense to Thingy's technique here,     claiming he pinned me with his entire body instead of just going arm to arm, but ehh, I'm sure he'd have gotten me down regardless.  All I know is     that this event sucks and will have to be replaced next time!    
 

Final Tally
Favorite: Thingy
Thing win predicted by 14 Eliters, Ng win predicted by 8
QB Odds Favorite: Calculations predict a 6-3 win for Thingy, though a 7-2 win is also possible (and probably more likely than 5-4)

Spoiler
   
    With 6 event victories versus Thingy's 3 (plus the 1 draw), Ngamer successfully defends his GNC title and will take on the next #1 Contender in the     2010 Grand National Championship.    
 
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Love the GNC?  Check out the last three (non-wiff) Elite athletic competitions!

The 2009 RMC - http://perfectdarkelite.yuku.com/reply/310526/t/#reply-310526
2008 GNC: Ng vs QB - http://perfectdarkelite.yuku.com/reply/281238
2006 GNC: Ng vs Jimbo- http://perfectdarkelite.yuku.com?topic=1606
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WARNING:  Everything below this point will be a spoiler!  You've been warned!

2009 GNC Prediction Contest Results
(due to the Sumo event being ruled a PUSH, the max score for this season is 8 points)

1. Third - 8
2. Ngamer - 7
2. Axel Z - 7
4. Jimbo - 6
4. Goose - 6
4. Nate - 6
4. Swaff - 6
8. wheat - 5
8. Cara - 5
8. Youse - 5
8. Shade - 5
8. Infil - 5
8. QB - 5
8. drag - 5
8. Jones - 5
8. BloodE - 5
17. Thingy - 4
17. Alec - 4
17. Mgay - 4
20. Comet - 3
20. Bully - 3
20. Come - 3
20. Cyber - 3

Congrats to Third, who pulls off the year's only perfect prediction and keeps Ngamer from completing the unprecedented double victory in the process!

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 02:39:00 am »
I knew our Preds Champ would get a kick out of this GNC, so I allowed him to download it early if in return he'd do a running commentary while he watched. That turned out QUITE WELL, and he is the expert after all, so I'll share that with you!

Thiradell (5:36:04 PM): here we goooooooooooooo
Thiradell (5:40:19 PM): whoa, camera zoomed way out for penalty kicks
Thiradell (5:40:24 PM): can't say I'm a fan of this angle either
Thiradell (5:42:08 PM): heh
Thiradell (5:42:12 PM): the 4th one went in, don't whine
Thiradell (5:50:12 PM): Brick wins penalty kicks, as I expected
Thiradell (5:50:27 PM): wasn't impressed with Ng or QB in the 2008 GNC
Thiradell (5:50:29 PM): for penalty kicks
Thiradell (5:50:37 PM): and Brick sounded skilled from the RMC report
Thiradell (5:53:33 PM): ugh, Ngamer missed two layups, not good
Thiradell (5:53:37 PM): (moving on to basketball)
Thiradell (5:54:31 PM): whoa, lighting it up now though
Thiradell (5:56:21 PM): heh, pretty clear from the layups that Brick doesn't play basketball and won't match 7/8
Thiradell (5:58:09 PM): wow, it only got uglier
Thiradell (5:58:13 PM): Third is 2/2 on predictions
Thiradell (6:02:49 PM): solid 10-yard throw in football from Ngamer, again it appears Ng has football experience whereas Brick doesn't seem to
Thiradell (6:03:37 PM): hmm, might have to take that back after a solid 15-yard showing from Thingy, he's got pretty good form
Thiradell (6:12:07 PM): wow, Ng showing off in the football toss from 20 yards, 3/3 predictions for Third
Thiradell (6:43:57 PM): loving the editing in the long jump
Thiradell (6:44:09 PM): last year's was fairly tedious to watch
Thiradell (6:49:16 PM): 14'8 is nice
Thiradell (6:49:20 PM): nice summaries given by Jimbo
Thiradell (6:54:21 PM): Brick's legs giving him the broad jump didn't bother me, I had full confidence that Ng would have a higher vertical, which he did
Thiradell (6:54:26 PM): 4/4 in preds
Thiradell (6:56:28 PM): 40-yard dash filmed well overall, I liked the picture and stopwatch still
Thiradell (6:56:54 PM): shame of the order of events, Ng should go up 5-1 here assuming he can get the 400m, when I still think it'll be 5-4 overall
Thiradell (6:58:55 PM): great pace maintained by Ng in the 400m
Thiradell (6:59:01 PM): 6/6 on preds
Thiradell (7:01:13 PM): nice tackle from Brick, I like the duckish stalk also
Thiradell (7:01:23 PM): IMO Ng should be thinking "I need to go for the tackle here"
Thiradell (7:01:35 PM): yes!
Thiradell (7:02:44 PM): YES, Brick wins, was pretty nervous there, but 7/7
Thiradell (7:03:16 PM): I'll go ahead and give a shout out to Jimbo's bulging biceps
Thiradell (7:05:06 PM): scrolling through the preds, looks like I'm the only 7/7
Thiradell (7:06:18 PM): lots of people thought Ng would win the penalty kicks
Thiradell (7:06:59 PM): before this sumo begins, I'll say I think Scott will win 2-1, Ng getting one due to experience and tactics
Thiradell (7:08:14 PM): heh, almost looks like a planned comedic effort with throwing the dirt over the shoulders, Brick perplexedly mimicking Ngamer
Thiradell (7:11:57 PM): wow, maybe not, Brick showed Ng what was up on that first round
Thiradell (7:12:58 PM): hahaha, Ng getting ready for a footrace in round #2
Thiradell (7:13:18 PM): very nice effort from Ngamer
Thiradell (7:14:09 PM): whoa, the winner
Thiradell (7:14:17 PM): so that gets thrown out I guess
Thiradell (7:15:26 PM): yes, the easy victory in arm wrestling that I expected
Thiradell (7:15:30 PM): my word, looks like an 8/8 from Third!
Thiradell (7:16:59 PM): well I followed some pretty simple principles when predicting
Thiradell (7:17:14 PM): Thingy would win strength-based events + penalty kicks, while Ng would win running/jumping/basketball events
Thiradell (7:17:32 PM): Ng also impressed me with his football heaving in '08, so I gave him the football toss
Thiradell (7:18:11 PM): I'm psyched about taking on Ngamer, I think we'd be very competitive
Thiradell (7:27:49 PM): well, I'm off to make love to Jon's mor
Thiradell (7:27:53 PM): uh, I mean

Comments: That wasn't a comedy routine!

On mounting the dohyō the wrestler performs a number of rituals derived from Shinto practice. Facing the audience, he claps his hands and then performs the leg-stomping shiko exercise to drive evil spirits from the dohyō as the gyōji who will coordinate the bout announces the wrestlers' names once more. Stepping out of the ring into their corners, each wrestler is given a ladleful of water, the chikara-mizu, with which he rinses out his mouth; and a paper tissue, the chikara-gami, to dry his lips. Then both step back into the ring, squat facing each other, clap their hands, then spread them wide (traditionally to show they have no weapons). Returning to their corners, they each pick up a handful of salt which they toss onto the ring to purify it.

We haven't had salt handy, so in 2006 we used snow, in 2008 we used sand, and this year we used blades of grass.

* my "come on!" wasn't because I thought he had missed, I was just upset about already being in such a hole and then having Thingy knock in an impossible ball way up in the corner like that. but yes, it WAS whining

* I shot those opening layups left handed, since it would only cost a second if I missed. you're right though, pretty embarrassing to miss two!

* Thingy landed a little awkwardly on his second broad jump and tweaked his knee. I don't know how much that was bothering him for the runs, but it seemed to at least hamper him a bit on his vertical attempts

* yes, I didn't like the order of events either. we'd been planning to save the basketball shots until near the end, but had to adjust the schedule and do PKs and Around the World at the same place, as the high school did not have any soccer nets. after the 40 I gave Thingy the option of doing the tackling ahead of the 400, but he declined saying that he just wanted to get the run over with

* heh, glad you enjoyed those tackles. yes sir, that was a fun event, glad it got voted in!

* I welcome the challenge

* hey now!

EDIT - Thingy was walking around taking pictures throughout the day.  This seems like a strong opportunity to share a few of my favorites.

The soccer goal we used was pretty beaten up, with the net falling apart.  Luckily I'd anticipated that and brought along some duct tape, which I sky high'd to stick up against the top bar.


Jim held the tape measure in place while I marked out our official free throw and 3 point distance targets with sidewalk chalk.  For some reason these blue Xs didn't show up at all on the video, but as you can tell they were very visible in person.


(and yes, we did get some weird looks from people as we were setting this stuff up, with our cameras and camcorders going off all the time)

I brought along a rake to smooth out the sand after each jump and make sure our markings were accurate.  It worked super!


After we'd made long jumping look so easy, Jim decided to try his hand.  What a disaster!  He left the ground about 4 feet too early, and his "jump" looked more like a high step crossed with a trip.  We were fortunate that Thingy caught the attempt on camera.


Here was the alternative GNC cover shot, where we tried to look more intense and ultra-hardcore.  Thingy preferred this picture, but Jim liked the other one better.




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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 05:22:00 am »
The guy in blue. LOL! You can totally see his nipples. You guys suck at sports.

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 04:00:00 pm »
Jon was touching the ground with his hands all the time in sumo. That's forbidden in sumo rules. Maybe you used your own set of rules for this. I haven't read any of the previous posts in detail. Nice video.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 07:58:00 pm »
Yup, you're correct, in real sumo you're down if anything except the bottoms of your feet touches the ground. We use a modified version called "NFL rules" where you're not down until your knees or elbow hit the ground (but obviously if ANYTHING touches outside the ring, even a hand, that counts as out).

Oh speaking of which, at the start of R2 I force Thingy back far enough where he steps on the hose, but we'd determined beforehand that touching that would be fine, you just couldn't step past it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 11:17:00 pm »
nice vid jon. enjoyed watching it!

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2009, 05:59:00 am »
jim 5 jon 5


good stuff

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2009, 08:05:00 am »
Random Wheat Comments

Who's worse at PK's? NG kicking them or thingy as a goalie?

I didn't realize (or forgot) how untechnically sound thingy is (outside of kicking soccer balls apparently). The high throws in football probably could've been attributed to some bad mechanics! Obviously his basketball form needs a lot of help. I hope that's not true in baseball as well. At least if I ever challenge ng in HORSE I know exactly the spot to shoot from!
(though I'd probably try my behind the backboard shot instead) Amazing throw by ng in that 20 yards with that wind btw. Props there. Thingy predicted his own death on the 400 backstretch though knowing that it seems like a bad acceptance of a challenge--if ng did that first he might've swept the whole thing! (btw what in the heck was the point of the 5 yard throw?)

lol at Jimbo's happy feet on thingy's first tackle. Whatever he was attempting there has a break tackle chance of 0%.
Jimbo--seriously you're not an elusive back stop trying to juke. Power through imo!

jimbo loses that weight and thinks he can do a ton of elusive moves... I see why he didn't run them over but it would've made of a lot better video!

Congrats to NG on another title defense.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2009, 12:31:00 pm »
Yeah after realizing I couldn't juke a turtle, I wanted to attempt hurdling or even being a power-back, and I chickened out at the last second

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2009, 12:55:00 pm »
Chicken!

Nice stuff folks, Ng is unbeatable

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 03:11:00 am »
Gnamer sure proved most of us wrong, myself incl. Thingy mainly blew it though, what a clown!

One day, I shall take you, Gn. And until that day, savor every last drop of your reign.

PS - Why is this sticky? Just because other topics were unsticky'd does not mean we need to replace them with random crap, IMO.

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2009, 10:58:00 pm »
Realy enjoyed the vid. Nice job guys. Great comments and filming by Jimbo too !