Perfect Dark. 8 player multi over Live @ 60 FPS. Join us tonight, Fal!

[Ngamer]

What? - Perfect Dark, remastered for the Xbox 360

Who? - The following 41 Eliters have picked up PD so far: (list will be kept updated)

    *  Ngamer - Ngamer64
* Infil - Infilament
* QB - CieloAzor
* Cyber - bcuts13
* Lanky - DrFace007
* Fal - FalStick
* Snap - SnapDragon
* wheat - wheatrich
* Comet - Comroid
* drag - ImperialSpring
* FW - failurewarning
* Jimbo - GoldenJimbo007
* Ice - Icy Guy
* Shang - Death Shang
* kats - katslover
* Neo - Neo26988
* Third - Twishall
* Greg Woll - DNC Magic Man
* Paul George - Bond799
    * ChodhE - ChodhE
* Mr. Yellow Testicle - The EliteStick
* Shep - darthrob64
* Thingy - The Snorge
* Ninja - Nindif
* Henrik - Wyst3r
* Trent - h8 bees
* Zeebo - captZEEbo
* PerfectLight - LegendofJonas
* mallow - malllow
* Cara - Carathorn
* Jimmy - ShadowLink6446
* Zbart - zbart124
* Dennis Lucid - Dlucid
* Cedric - CEDRIC33dark
* BloodE - HistoricToast
* SICWALK - SINISTER JT
* Reds - Redsrule2500
* PSK - Stickman5679
* Vick - Vectorman0
* Slash - ArtOfLimit
* Mike - Marsupial0
* Taki - Chuya1129
* Goose - (signing up tomorrow)

If you haven't yet, friend them on Live to get some multi action going!

When?  - PD becomes available for download at about 6am Eastern this Wednesday.

Why's everyone so excited about a 10 year old game?

*  Enhanced HD visuals and sound
* Runs at a constant 60 frames per  second
* Ability to play Multiplayer with 8 other friends over Live (plus bots), or with 4 friends at your house playing 4 OTHER friends on another 360
* Co-Op and Counter Op ("versus mode") are  also playable over Live with a friend.  you can also take on all 30 multiplayer "Challenges" with friends
* New awards for "very difficult" challenges beyond the usual 200 Achievement points
* Online leaderboards and rankings for all modes (solo, co-op, Challenges,  firing range, etc)
* Classic GE weapons available in multi for the first time

How much? - All this for a mere $10!  (800 Live points)
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So sign up by posting your Live name here  if you're interesting in playing with your fellow Eliters in just a little over 24 hours!


(Yes I realize Lanky had a topic in PD, but it needed a little more organization.)

[Neo]

It's times like this I wish our 360 hadn't RRoD'd for a 4th time.

[Nindif]

Hey guys, im in too! So pumped!

Gamertag: Nindif

[Wyst3r]

Definately getting this ASAP, GamerTag: Wyst3r.

[Fal2002]

It's times like this I wish our 360 hadn't RRoD'd for a 4th time.

Typical, my disc drive is starting to go and last thing i need is any red lights before tomorrow. Looking forward to it though...

[GoldenGreg007]

My GT is DNC Magic Man, not GoldenGreg007.  It was GG007 about 4 years ago though..

[TreAKAHotdog]

trent hovis - h8 bees

[Comet]

Well I certainly don't recall ever saying I would pick up this game, yet find myself on the list anyway! (obviously I am though)

[captZEEbo]

GT is captZEEbo

[youseinthehouse]

Ugh.  Could this $10 throw-in really justify the cost of an entire 360 to me???  I fear it might.

[dragondragon18]

Goose is getting one for that same reason Youse!

[youseinthehouse]

Gah why the hell are there 9000 different editions of Xbox.  And none of them has wifi built in.  I hate you, Microsoft.

[TreAKAHotdog]

so...

http://s7.photobucket.com...y266/AlkalineProdigy/PD/

there's no option to move with the right control stick.  i might not buy this game now.

the omission of setting 1.2 is unbelievable.  i just sent an email to j4 studios about this travesty.  i certainly hope this will be patched; until then, no purchase for me.

[Ngamer]

I don't get it Trent- they have the exact Halo configuration mapped.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/AlkalineProdigy/PD/IMG_6010.jpg

Aren't these the settings you've been using for the past 8 years?

Or are you saying that every time you play Halo you switch to "inverted" controls so that you're always looking around with the left?

[Darth Vader]

I'm not going to buy a 360 just for Perfect Dark. One of my friends is getting the game though. Going to try it out soon and maybe try some speedrun if i can lol. Never hold a 360 controller before.

[TreAKAHotdog]

i'm saying control setting 1.2 is absent; you move with the c-buttons on the N64 controller (right thumb), so it would be natural to move with the right control stick on the Xbox controller.  this is what i do in halo...they have a "southpaw" joystick setting, which is essentially just like i described.  i don't have to switch to this setting every time; it saves the setting.

[vitor]

I totally dislike the xbox controller ;/

[RWG]

Yeah the XBOX controller sucked from Day 1.  Anyone remember the MASSIVE controllers from the original XBOX?  Controllers have only gone downhill this past generation.  The N64 controller is the PINNACLE of modern gaming controllers.

[Ngamer]

Just finished up about a three hour multi session with wheat, playing through the Challenges together.  Ninja and Comet stopped in to help us with a few.  We got beat pretty bad at Ch... 10 I think?  Our first time, but then slaughtered them on a second go.  But we just tried two runs at Ch 18 with Comet and those Maians blew us out both times!  Think it was like 17-3 and then 14-1.

DANG, what a great game!

[TheFlash]

Comet just took all the WRs

[ChodhE]

How are the leaderboards looking ? I'm at work and can't play until tonight =(.

[Comet]

Yeah, it would appear that I managed to grab 6 records. Go me! The feel is so much different though. Doesn't really feel like PD, or any other shooter that I've ever played. Awkward at first, but we'll see how things turn out after the adjustment.

[Wyst3r]

Anybody try defection glitch yet?

[Comet]

Defection glitch is there...although I didn't manage to get outside of the building with it. Only tried a couple times though.

[Comet]

It would appear that Dennis Lucid (well at least his live name is Dlucid, might be him) managed to get 6 seconds on defection, so it definitely works

[wheatrich]

challenges apparently don't count unless you're the host.  That sucks.  Would've helped a bit on that challenge if I hadn't kept going the wrong way from not knowing where the hill was just from radar.

Tried deflection glitch for some tries and either landed in the room below or got stuck--it's harder to do (seems several already have) on the xbox than it's 64 counterpart.

phoenix shell explosions seemed to give more of a boost than I recalled as well but it's been awhile.

[Pdiddylight]

Perfect-Light checking in, I can't believe I even remember this screen name.  I was hanging out in the Elite chat for the past couple hours.  Gamertag LegendofJonas if anyone wants some game

[Pdiddylight]

And holy crap, just checked my join date... 06/27/00!!  Has it really been 10 years already?!

[Cyberwrath87]

Impressions:

At first I was pretty upset that there was no Legacy or Southpaw style control since I've basically been weaned on console FPS's with PD and GE. After a few hours, I've definitely gotten used to the new controls, and they're not too bad. However, manual aiming is TERRRRIBLE! Or maybe just I am. Anything that involves holding L and using the right analog to somehow aim seems impossible, making things like the Skedar boss and sniping on Villa just embarrassing. Maybe I'll get better at it over time.

It's so nice to play these levels at a clean framerate, and of course the updated video/audio is great too. So far I've only played through on Agent and SA, and a few levels on PA. I wanted to get used to the controls before I played multi over Live. If anyone wants to hit up co-op sometime this weekend (provided march madness games aren't on ) lemme know!

Even though I've only played each level once, I've managed to get a few 1st place scores just randomly running through on a brisk pace. Cmon, I'm not gonna take my time on Agent! Not sure how to even play these levels slowly. From what I remember, as of now I have 1st (although pretty crappy times!) on Rescue A, Attack Ship A, MBR A, Maian A, Escape SA, and Pelagic 2 SA. Maybe MBR SA but I cant remember.

It's cool to see former eliters from waaay back in the day coming around to play this. I see good times ahead for everyone.

[failurewarning]

I agree with you cyberwrath, manual aiming is just plaing shocking. Combat boosts are bad too. I have tried a few times but i can't get the speech skip to work either. I had a few top 10 times that included 3 1sts for a while (i know cyberwrath beat my rescue a time). Looking forwards to speedrunning this game..... again

[Nindif]

my personal fav upgrade has been the audio! its amazing! i run the 360 through 5.1 system and the sound is really impressive.
I managed to speech skip on Air Force 1 Agent, but only for Joanna's speech, not the president
Dissapointing online challenges only count for the host and not for other players, i think we need to organize a time for a multi-party

[captZEEbo]

anyone working on achievements?  I can't figure out how to get the co-op and counter-op.  Tried beating a level on local and live, and didn't get the achievement either time.

[wheatrich]

zeebo--someone told me you have to beat the entire  (A, SA, PA) [duel?  lol].    dunno if that's true at all though since I've had nothing but connection errors for co op.  (actually just might be datadyne (ie defection,investigation and extraction on agent)

bah just got 2nd on MBR A.[beat cutler, behind clodhe  eliter podium so far ]  (lol it's a better time than my 64 one hahaha)

[Cyberwrath87]

I heard for co-op you have to beat a MISSION, not a LEVEL for the achievement. aka defection/invest/extrac is one mission but three levels. I guess you can just try Villa since it's a mission by itself.

[ChodhE]

I'm having a hell of a time with manual aiming, and strafing felt awekward at first but I'm getting used to it..so far I'm liking it.It's been so long I barely remember the objectives of the missions >_<.

[Comet]

Cyber is right with the mission part. Playing the Villa will work for the achievements though.

[Mallow]

I can't get used to these dumbass controls, what the fuck. MW2 is so much better.

ChodhE, I did manage to easily smash your Villa Agent time (I think it was), though (at the time of this posting)

Seriously... how ridiculously awkard do you guys feel like when you can't snipe those guys for shit on Villa, wtfy0

[ChodhE]

So that bastard was you ! :P

But yeah, I'm basically at the point where I think shooting them without zooming in would probably be easier.

On another note, it's fun to see all those eliters from back then playing again =).

[Carathorn]

stopped playing after 2 hours.

controls fail too much to speedrun the game.

waste of 10 euro's!

[bcks]

So whats wrong with the controls guys?

[Comet]

Just awkward at first, but you get used to it after playing a bit. Not a problem at all if you just put some time into it.

[Carathorn]

its nearly impossible to speedstrafe consistantly since you are moving with the analog stick, so you never get an instant 'lock' on speedstrafing just like you could do with c buttons on N64 controller. only the perfect combination of walking and strafing makes you suddenly go way, way faster. Anything thats just a tiny bit off, makes you move like a snail.

[GoldenGreg007]

^ Exactly.  It was pretty rare that I actually found that sweet spot and was strafing full speed, and I was figuring that problem was pretty widespread (hence my Pelagic 2 A 1:08 being an 8 second untied, lol).  I was a little more consistent about it on other levels though, like Defense.

[CreepingDeath007]

I got this game, my gamertag is ShadowLink6446.

[Ngamer]

Just finished up a 3 hour multi session with QB, drag, Ninja, ChodhE and Reds where QB kept cycling through new weapons/levels/scenarios all night.

Im Ngamer (3:32:22 AM): I was SO mad at Reds during that 2v2v2 in the Ravine when he killed me
Im Ngamer (3:32:43 AM): but then the final scores came up and he'd killed 18 OTHER people as well, and no one else even killed 10!
Im Ngamer (3:32:52 AM): so I changed my mind and called him a great teammate
Infil12 (3:33:50 AM): that's rather fickle of you
Im Ngamer (3:34:27 AM): well I was already in a bad mood before the round before was Challenge 30, but 3v3 with two human teams
Im Ngamer (3:34:39 AM): and drag was on my team, yet shot me twice
Im Ngamer (3:34:43 AM): and disarmed me once
Im Ngamer (3:34:53 AM): so I refused to be on his team the next game
Infil12 (3:34:57 AM): well, that's certainly reason to be upset
Im Ngamer (3:35:19 AM): yeah and we lost like 20 to 2 there
Im Ngamer (3:36:17 AM): but anyways, man that was fun tonight!

If you still don't have this game for some reason... dang, are you ever missing out!

[Nindif]

best multi gaming session i think i've had since 4p split screen in about 2002! great fun! after about 30 min of warming up the game felt exactly like the original which made it even better.

Session was concluded with a 1v1 combat game between myself and QB in Complex.
Weapons: combat knives, crossbows and combat boost.
Result 11-9 QB wins.

If you were considering getting this game, forget what people have been saying about the controls - yes strafing is tricky and not consistent - but other than that is feels just right, and the multi is just wow.

[Radek]

I don't have a Xbox 360 but my brother does and I played the game with his gamertag (xKeUng LE FoUx). Controls feels horrible at first but after an hour of playing I managed to speedstrafe often enough, however the manual aiming is still horrible. Also, is there no way to stand up right from the mid crouched position? Do we necessarily have to completely crouch and then uncrouch?

btw my young brother never played pdark before, he watched me doing times like 1:2x on Villa A a couple times, then he tried the game for an hour, and when I came back he managed to do Villa A 1:25 and ranked 10th on the leaderboards. Seems like he learned quicky.

[Matis]

i want to play PD fun with everyone

[dragondragon18]

I think I determined what variables influence the score tiebreaker for each of the missions.

1) Headshots
2) Accuracy
3) Kills

I tested this on Defection Agent as well as Duel SA.

Defection A:  Killing everyone > 2 Headshots > 1 Headshot

Duel SA: 2 headshots = 2 headshots and a neck shot > 2 headshots and a miss

Edit:  I forgot to mention there might be more in account for it, because I have a headshot on Duel A, but only have 1533, whereas the high seems to be 1633.

The sad thing is that the time and score aren't neccessarily on the same run.  That's why you can see my Chicago A score is way higher than everyone else in the elite that does the mine toss.

[ChodhE]

yeah I was wondering about that.

me and fal both have 3.71 on dual A and he's first because he has more 100 more points than me, I guess he hit HS and I didn't.