Alright, the top four Challenge 30 players in the Elite teamed up tonight for some 4p action. It was Cyber, Infil, Infil's bro, Ngamer, and Jo Sim against the 5 sims. Scores:
31 - 0 (Ng hosting)
30 - 2 (Ng hosting)
30 - 4 (Infil hosting from here out)
23 - 6
32 - 7
31 - 5
31 - 2
Our discovery:
Infil12 (1:52:21 AM): the sims act appropriately to the people on the host xbox
Infil12 (1:52:38 AM): if the host player is nowhere near you, the sims will cheat and warp (like they normally do), but you see it on the other players screens
Infil12 (1:52:43 AM): which means you die instantly
Im Ngamer (1:53:01 AM): I assume they also cheated and warped on the N64, but since there were 4 "host players"
Im Ngamer (1:53:10 AM): someone was almost always near them
Infil12 (1:53:02 AM): it's interesting to see how the sims warp, though!
Infil12 (1:53:12 AM): they kind of slide around like waterbugs
Infil12 (1:53:24 AM): taking huge strides every 0.5 seconds
Im Ngamer (1:53:42 AM): they also fire any weapon as fast as an RCP120!
Infil12 (1:53:58 AM): yes, when they're in "cheat mode", they run about 5x as fast and all weapons are like K7 avengers to them
isthatagoodt (1:54:05 AM): Have you guys ever won?
Im Ngamer (1:54:18 AM): no one has ever won a 4p online Ch 30
Im Ngamer (1:54:19 AM): NO ONE
wheatrich (1:54:36 AM): that cheat mode always gets you cause you look at the radar and go oh that bot's too far away
wheatrich (1:54:40 AM): then BAM shot in the back
Infil12 (1:54:37 AM): if all 4 players are on separate consoles, it's effectively 1P challenge 30 with 4P sims
Infil12 (1:54:47 AM): because the other three players can hardly hope to kill sims in cheat mode reliably
Infil12 (1:55:12 AM): oh, and of course, there are never any guns to be found anywhere
Im Ngamer (1:55:16 AM): yeah I was wondering why you three "challenge 30 studs" were playing so poorly the first game
Im Ngamer (1:55:23 AM): then I stopped hosting and found out quick!
Infil12 (1:55:40 AM): i mean, we knew darksims cheated
Infil12 (1:55:45 AM): but they were never on our screens when they were doing it
Infil12 (1:55:47 AM): now, they are
Infil12 (1:55:50 AM): and it's ridiculous
isthatagoodt (1:56:09 AM): So will you be able to create a strategy to beat this?
Infil12 (1:56:17 AM): not online, really
Im Ngamer (1:56:17 AM): I still say a win is possible with 2 people on the host box
Im Ngamer (1:56:44 AM): would need perfect hill placement, but I think it can be done
Infil12 (1:56:23 AM): 4P on the same xbox, we stand a much better chance
Im Ngamer (1:56:54 AM): but yes, this will be really fun to try in Virginia
Infil12 (1:56:53 AM): it would be possible if we camped a hill
Infil12 (1:56:59 AM): and then capped it with 9:30 left
Infil12 (1:57:04 AM): but that's no fun
Infil12 (1:57:19 AM): for example, if someone spawns near balcony and it's the hill
Im Ngamer (1:57:23 AM): oh yes, we could probably do that on balcony at least
Infil12 (1:57:24 AM): we can all just hold it off
Infil12 (1:57:32 AM): but that's not really beating it
Im Ngamer (1:57:52 AM): Cyber was saying we could score balcony to start and then hope Center is next, and just keep running in there
Im Ngamer (1:57:57 AM): but I doubt we could even do that
Infil12 (1:58:23 AM): nah, center is way too hard to cap with sims in god mode
Infil12 (1:58:28 AM): the instant the guys on the host xbox die, it's game over
wheatrich (1:59:12 AM): that explains why seemingly everytime I died that when I spawned there was no teammate on my screen
wheatrich (1:59:25 AM): if I had known--wouldn't have been quite so kamikaze
Like I said, this should be a heck of a fun challenge in Virginia this Summer! But I really can't see it being beaten legit before then, unless we could get at least 3 really good players all together on the same 360.
