My near death experience

[wishiwasfamous]

Bullshit, I can't play piano (well) while drunk.

[Henning Blom]

Exactly how does the experience of a high enrich your life then Durk? Makes you a better musician? I highly doubt it...

Well, I guess I wasnt clear enough, Vitor. What I mean is that they might just try to use you to get drugs just like dads "friends" used him to get alcohol. A good friend is returning a favour in a way or the other but they didnt do anything but drink when he had alcohol. Good friends? No. But yeah, at the same time its not really the same in Ryan's case as he doesnt have alot of drugs (I hope) but yeah.

[Infected Mind]

(though statistically the chances of hurting yourself taking pills is extremely minimal and is comparable to driving a car).


lol just wait till you take a lethal amount of pma in your pill without realizing it. Pills are always risky because of how they are rarely pure.  unless you are a chemist making them yourself you cant count on it being extremely minimal risk. ive seen people pass off tide inside capsules as mdma and hundreds of people got really sick

had to point that out because although all your points are good, that was the dumbest thing ive read in a while

[Soft-Hedwig]

You experience music (and art) in a different way, picking up on subtleties, patterns and nuance that you just don't hear easily (or at all) otherwise. You also become far more creative in the way you present and develop ideas in an improvisatory context. I'm mainly talking about weed/hash here fyi.

You can doubt it all you want, but this is pretty widely documented.  

[Scrambler Fanny]

TLC  

[SimThreat]

Alex: Yes obviously almost all pills are not pure. But pill related deaths are less than car accident related deaths. Please check the statistics.

It's all well and good to say that you COULD ingest something lethal because the pill you got was fucked up, but in reality hardly anyone at all dies.

[Infected Mind]

Ive seen a couple people die, maybe it affects me more seing it first hand

[RWG]

Alex: Yes obviously almost all pills are not pure. But pill related deaths are less than car accident related deaths. Please check the statistics.

How many people drive cars?

How many people swallow illicit substances?

Please check the statistics.

[Wody]

My friend just died early this morning like 2 am. Like holy fuck Im not even kidding he was a good friend of mine we used to go to a charter school when younger and Facebook was full of RIPs to this kid just goes to show you can die at any time. It was a car accident he over corrected when he saw he was swerving off the road... All fucking bullshit aside. He hit someone head on.

[Infected Mind]

That sucks to hear

[SimThreat]

Really sorry to hear Ryan. I hope you're ok.

[Scrambler Fanny]

yeah man... this thread doesn't have much good in it...


Woody-sorry about your buddy.

[Wody]

Yeah bro holy shit so fucking crazy. Man I didn't mean to make this topic negative or anything but its so weird how you guys were talking about car crashes and everything... Man I kind of grew apart from this kid as we got older because we didnt go to the same middle school but in highschool we chilled every now and then. Some of my other friends who hung out with him a lot are really shooken up from this. You never know when you are gonna die it can happen out of nowhere. This was a fucking wake up call. I looked at all the RIPs and stuff and people saying nice things and i just thought to myself that could have been me like a week and a half ago so fucking crazy i never looked at it that way its almost impossible to think this kid is dead like it never happened.

[RWG]

Yeah dude.  Every moment of every day, you can die.  I realized this when one of our perfectly healthy dogs passed away suddenly in May of last year.  That really inspired me to pick up my life and appreciate things differently.

  For instance, why is there so much hate in the world?  Why, when you are hanging out at a party with 4 of your guy friends, do you hate the other group of 5 guys across the room who are hitting on the same girls as you?  Sometimes the guys will hate each other so much for no reason that they'll forcefully make out with these girls, just to beat out the other guys, while the girls don't want it in the first place.  Shit like this causes so much negativity in the world... Why not all just enjoy that you're alive and at a party having a good time?  Â 

People take life too seriously.  Just appreciate being alive and you'll be a truly happier person.

[Wody]

heres the news article mile marker 6 is literally right next to my house thats the kids car http://www.keysnet.com/

[Time was untied when set.]

Yep Ryan I agree 100%. You only live once, seems a waste to spend it taking everything so seriously. I work in a factory and it is truly amazing how many people there take their jobs way too serious, considering the company really doesn't care about them at all. I do the bare minimum to go by without trouble and I get my work done, nothing more.

But on topic I would also like to agree with Henning's statement about "friends" you meet through drugs/alcohol. Usually these people will tend to use you for money, drugs, or assistance, and if neither of those things apply they won't give a shit about you. They are only your friend because the curcumstances cause them to feel they need your help in one way or another, and hanging around these people usually just results in stupid behavior somehow. I would say they best friends are people you just randomly meet one way or another.

I actually agree that drugs may be useful for artistic purposes such as music or other artforms, but you can also be a good musician without doing them. Davey Havok is straight edge, and there are quite a few good straight edge bands. But considering a lot of the best music in the world came from people who were heavily into drugs, it is hard to say nothing good has come from it. But then again, a lot of the people who made this good music have either died early from terrible health or killed themselves, so it makes you wonder if it was really worth it for them.

[RWG]

But on topic I would also like to agree with Henning's statement about "friends" you meet through drugs/alcohol. Usually these people will tend to use you for money, drugs, or assistance, and if neither of those things apply they won't give a shit about you. They are only your friend because the curcumstances cause them to feel they need your help in one way or another, and hanging around these people usually just results in stupid behavior somehow.

This post is spot on.  To quote Pineapple Express;

Saul: How about in the park, when I said you were my friend... you didn't say anything back.
Dale Denton: Well, that's easy. It's because we're not friends. You are my drug dealer. The only reason I know you is because I like the drugs you sell. If you didn't sell drugs, I would have no idea who you are, and I wouldn't be here right now. I would be fantastic!

In this film, the two protagonists get involved in a life threatening situation because of drugs.  When push comes to shove, they don't even want to help each other, because they really aren't friends.  Like Dale said, Saul is just some guy he buys drugs from.  Nothing more.

[SimThreat]

But on topic I would also like to agree with Henning's statement about "friends" you meet through drugs/alcohol. Usually these people will tend to use you for money, drugs, or assistance, and if neither of those things apply they won't give a shit about you. They are only your friend because the curcumstances cause them to feel they need your help in one way or another, and hanging around these people usually just results in stupid behavior somehow. I would say they best friends are people you just randomly meet one way or another.

Yeah David... BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTEN INTO THE DRUG SCENE, CREATED FRIENDS THROUGH IT, AND READ THEIR MIND FOR HOW THEY THINK ABOUT YOU. Once again an easily moulded mind regurgitating bullshit they've heard from the media, films and a society of people who talk as if they have an idea about something they've never experienced for themselves. This pathetic attempt of sounding like you know something when you've clearly stated several times you have NEVER, EVER done anything that would give you any kind of real world experience is clear evidence of your lack of awareness. And your obvious bias is getting in the way of any point that you are trying to make.

I really don't mind if people don't like drugs and whatnot, it's not for everyone and most people honestly don't take them responsibly. It is very unsettling however to think that people of your intelligence still have not wrapped their mind around the fact that you cannot really know a situation until you've been in it. Talking as if you know the ups and downs and shits and fucks of something you obviously have no actual experience with will only shine a spotlight on your stupidity.

[Wouter Jansen]

they will start understanding as they start maturing

[Infected Mind]

Listen to Karl folks. Take pills with minimal risks or your a nerd

[RWG]

OMG LOL THE MEDIA IS MOULDING MY MIND

-BE A LIBERAL
-SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY
-DON'T DO DRUGS

FUCK YEAH MEDIA

[Scrambler Fanny]

*is a somewhat liberal conservative*
*doesn't support homosexuailty*
*never done an illicit drug*

<3 the media

[vitor]

"Usually these people will tend to use you for money, drugs, or assistance, and if neither of those things apply they won't give a shit about you."

OMFG SO WRONG! FOR GOD SAKE how can you say that if you DON'T do it, NEVER did it and plus NEVER HAD a friend who used drugs? Holy jesus, I got really pissed off reading this because for about 2 years of my university time I used to do some stuff, and that ended up getting me closer to some friends who were into it as well, IT WAS GREAT AND THEY'RE STILL MY BEST FRIENDS. I kinda stopped for my own personal reasons, some of them still do it though, and NOTHING changed. I mean I don't hang out with them that often anymore because now I'm working and finishing university, so I can't like go to someone's place and stay there for the night, smoking weed (or doing some allucination drug or whatever funny shit) and only coming back home early in the morning, or else I'm gonna be late for work etc. In fact, most of them don't do that anymore, we have all grown up and know about our own responsibilities.

To lockwood, I feel very sorry for you man :/ Hope you will be ok.

[Red Bull]

"so I can't like go to someone's place and stay there for the night, smoking weed (or doing some allucination drug or whatever funny shit) and only coming back home early in the morning, or else I'm gonna be late for work etc"

This sounds freaking cute and hilarious at the same time!

[RWG]

Drugs are for people who can't find happiness elsewhere in life.

[vitor]

"This sounds freaking cute and hilarious at the same time!"

[SimThreat]

Alex: I never said people should take drugs. Why did you imply I said that? I'm only saying that taking drugs is not necessarily a bad thing, and that people should not think they know what it's like to be in that situation unless they have actually been in that situation.

[RWG]

Saying that "taking drugs is not necessarily a bad thing" is comparable to saying "diving off a cliff is not necessarily a bad thing."  The amount of people that benefit from either activity is so minuscule that it's negligible and irrelevant to the general population.

Anyone who says that "drugs help my artistry" is a jokes event because saying that is almost exactly the same as saying "HURR DURR I'M AS GOOD AS JOHN LENNON AND JIMI HENDRIX OLOLO"

[SimThreat]

Drugs for me has been a very positive and mind opening experience and I know a lot of friends who would only say drugs have been a positive experience for them as well.

Despite the fact that I've made this point quite clear several times you still don't seem to get it. You can't comment about what effect drugs does or doesn't have because you've NEVER DONE IT. When you comment on things like this you appear to be an idiot. Yet you're too retarded to realise this. The fact that you haven't even mentioned this point at all or attempted to counter it in any way is ridiculous as it's my main point. Is this because you a)don't think it's important because you're retarded or b)because you're ignoring it intentionally?

[RWG]

I've smoked weed over 100 times.

All that happens is you end up sitting in a basement, hungry as fuck, watching some shitty movie.

I mean seriously... you actually think I would post about doing drugs if I had never done them myself?  As well as marijuana I've also smoked salvia, snorted crack and taken ecstasy once.  None of these were very fulfilling.

Why on Earth would you arbitrarily believe that I've never done drugs?

[RWG]

In fairness to Karl, I remember this one time I was high, I was eating a chocolate chip cooking and listening to the song "Promiscuous" by Nelly Furtado.  I still hate that song to this day, but at the time the song sounded like it was the best song ever, and the chocolate chip cookie was awesome as well.

How fulfilling.

Oh shit there was this other time when I was drunk and high, and I came home at 4am.  I was like "oh shit, I need to eat something, but I'm really fucking thirsty too."  I solved this by cooking up chicken noodle soup.  I ate 1 whole liter of chicken noodle soup that morning.  To this date, that was the most satisfying bowl of soup I have ever eaten.

[RWG]

I mean seriously Karl, you look like a fool now.  Accusing me of never having done drugs.  I'm a 20 year old guy with a normal social life.  Of course I have done drugs.

I've been completely sober for almost a year now... I just got to a point where it wasn't doing anything for me anymore.  It's just a waste of money and time spent sober is more efficient than time spent intoxicated.  That might just be my opinion though.

[SimThreat]

That arguement was initially directed at Clemens. Ryan it took you several posts to actually respond to the point that I was making and unfortunately I'm not a mind reader so you actually have to COMMUNICATE ideas in order for people to get them. I don't know your life story and seeing as you ignored what I was saying it gave the impression you had no experience.

You keep attempting to speak for the rest of the world and acting as if you have that right. Newsflash Ryan, you can only speak for yourself. It is one thing to say 'I have never gotten anything positive out of drugs' and a completely different thing to say 'people don't get anything out of drugs'. You have to learn the difference and unfortunately I don't believe that is going to happen any time soon.

[RWG]

I've gotten loads of positive things out of drugs.  This other time, I was watching Planet Earth while high and playing Dolphin Olympics.  I got this bomb high score of over 200million.  All my friends were really impressed.

[RWG]

Actually my best experience on drugs was when I did salvia.  We were in the dorms at the university, and I smoked it, but I had been drinking that night so I had to piss bad.  I went out in the hall to find the bathroom and the hall all of a sudden became like the endless stairs hall from Super Mario 64.  No matter how far I walked down the hall, new doors would appear beside me and it just went on and on.  Eventually I did find the bathroom, but I got lost on the way back to my buddy's dorm.  I went down these stairs and ended up outside.  The doors were locked though and I had no keycard.  I sat on a snow covered bench for about 40 seconds, then called one of my friends to come and get me.  They came and got me.  Then we went to McDonald's and another one of my buddy's proceeded to throw up everywhere.  Then we took a taxi home.

[vitor]

I laughed at your stories! Btw are you sober even from drinking? What happened?

"Drugs are for people who can't find happiness elsewhere in life. "

Well that's preety relative. Obviously there are people with a weak mind that just fall into drugs, and can't go back, yeah that's preety bad, life becomes nothing without drugs for these folks. But if you can actually get hold of yourself with them, there's no problem at all, and yeah you can actually get positive things from them.

Some people need to get out of their boring holes where people who do drugs are idiots.

[RWG]

Yes I'm sober from drinking.  I'll have a beer here or there if I'm offered, but no more than 1 or 2.

What happened?  I realized that being intoxicated is just a bad thing.  

Let's say you're intoxicated, and all of a sudden you injure yourself or someone around you gets injured.  Now you can't drive to the hospital.  Your judgment is impaired and it will be difficult to make the right decisions in that situation.

How about when you're intoxicated and your mother calls you about serious family business.  Now you can't talk with her rationally because you are intoxicated.  You can't comfort her because you are confused.

This past New Year's Eve I decided I would stay sober and be the designated driver.  You have no idea how much respect this gained for me among my friends and also how much of a social status boost it was.  I was in control.  Everyone else was wasted and I was the one with all the responsibility.  I was the man.  Not only that, but I had more fun that New Year's Eve than I did at the three previous ones combined, all of which I was wasted out of my mind.

Does being high really make watching Pulp Fiction that much better?  Not really.  Does being drunk make watching hockey that much better?  Definitely not.  Does being high really make that pizza taste all that much better?  Nope.

Not to mention being sober costs $0.00 while getting intoxicated can cost anywhere from $10.00 to several hundred dollars.

That's all it comes down to.  It's just not worth it in the end.

[Lark]

I'd like to inform the public that Ryan White's above stories are all fake. You have never taken X or snorted crack, for that is impossible.
However, I did get a kick out of your stories. I drink and smoke weed occasionally. I don't over do it so no problems come up. Life's all about moderation. However, when it comes to hard drugs I don't believe you can partake in that responsibly. Who's ever heard of being a responsible coke or heroin user? That's just silly.

[RWG]

Fine, I've never done crack or E, but all my stories are true

 Who's ever heard of being a responsible coke or heroin user? That's just silly.

Excellent point.

[Infected Mind]

Karl i was just being unfunny as normal. You can't take what i say too seriously, as im usually joking around but im not too funny. There are experiences that you wont understand unless you take them, and then there will always eventually be experiences that you wish you could do with out.

all in all some things will open your mind, others will destroy it, and others will just rot your body. There is positive but also negative. If i wasnt at the hospital when my friend OD'd i'd never have met my gf of 4 years. There are alot of experiences and things ive learned that i use most everyday. And there are traumatizing memories in which im still getting over. I still wouldnt reccomend people into trying alot of things or some people anything for that matter, but to be honest I personally think alcohol is far worse for the body and mind, then some things classified as Class A, and far worse then alot of class C things.

Alcohol is definately something legal and mainstream that is alot worse then say mdma which is class A drug(how ever pills will always be worse due to dirtyness) started to ramble here but just some thoughts on the matter. I dont really have a point. Dirty drugs like coke/crack meth and the like, even opiates/oxycontin almost litteraly have no positive influences. My opinion. Pyschoactives are different imo

[Wody]

Bro im fucking hammered right now... lol Ecstasy is by far the greatest drug i have ever done(brought me out of depression) and i think everyone should try it once lmao sorry ill come back to reality tomorrow.

[TreAKAHotdog]

[gamingguru507]

Drugs are perfectly fine in moderation. I look forward to a pleasant escape from reality once in awhile because why the fuck not? Doing coke all day is one thing, smoking some weed, dropping some E or shrooms once in awhile is completely another.

[Scrambler Fanny]

[TheFlash]

I cannot believe some of the people in this thread.

Anyone who reads this can quickly tell who among the posters has any clue what is going on.

[Soft-Hedwig]

Karl
Ryan L
Ryan W (sort of...:P)
Greg K
GG
Alex A

 
All these people's viewpoints are shaped by their own experiences, whether it's good or bad, so for me it's pretty clear that these are the people who know what's going on,....

I'm guessing you probably meant Henning, Clemens, Shawn et al though.....

[Worlds-One]

Wow, I'm glad you're alive Ryan.

Sometimes you meet friends and see their bad habits. This doesnt mean you have to follow what they do, whether its drugs, sex rock n roll. Everyone is their own entity and will live their own experiences and have their own opinions. It's called a brain.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend as well man, that always sucks and its never good to see someone close to you die suddenly. Those are called feelings.

Now youre talking about drinking, I dont have a problem at all. My father died from cirrhosis of the liver (alcoholism) 4 years ago. I personally just wouldnt follow that path because its clearly destructive.
I did however had about 8 shots of Tequila gold last night with a nice 21 yr old. We had sex several times and im still alive. Thats called a penis.

Bottom line is everyone makes their own decisions, in some point in life to be successful or make it to the next level you need to take risks. Whether the risk is good or bad in ones mind will be the decision one will have to make with their brain.

All please be safe. From Nathan and I god bless and have a safe, happy easter with good family and friends.

[Red Bull]

I have some wicked feeling that Sterling's post was only made to let everyone know he had SEX! woot!

[Time was untied when set.]

I know exactly what is going on. A overweight, mustached plumber has been for the past 25 years selling shrooms to young Toad's in exchange for a few lousy coins. I declare we gather the koopa troops and wage war on this monstrousity!

[Infected Mind]

lol^