Who will live the longest?

[Jimbo]

It's time to really think about your lifestyle. How happy are you? How well do you eat? Do you have good genes? These 3 things are the big 3 determiners in how long a person will live (the obvious factor is luck, but if you're careful, you can avoid getting hit by a bus or crashing on a plane)

With this said, I think I'll live to be 90. QB and I have an official bet that whoever lives longer will inherit the other person's stuff and cash, with no regards to their family at all. (Murder voids the bet). Wouter, as projected, probably has the strongest will to live so he can get all of his GE WRs back and die in 1st place, but otherwise no solid information is known.

How long are you going to live? Go go go!

Edit: Reasons I'll be 90.

1. Will to live
2. Consistent weightlifter (high metabolism) and exerciser
3. Ridiculously good genes, most family members top 85, some smoked.
4. I'm a pretty happy son of a bitch.
5. I'm lucky, take many safety precautions, and take great care not to die in a freak accident.
6. Got a 100/100 on my health exam from work, first employee in a 62-year history to do so. (owned)
7. I don't smoke, I don't drink. (owned)

[vitor]

"2. Consistent weightlifter (high metabolism) and exerciser 

5. I'm lucky, take many safety precautions, and take great care not to die in a freak accident. 

6. Got a 100/100 on my health exam from work, first employee in a 62-year history to do so. (owned) 

7. I don't smoke, I don't drink. (owned)"

Those are preety good jimbo, but there is joke I've heard once (my dad told me I guess) that's something like: 

A man went to a doctor: "doc, I want to know if I'm going to live 100 years!" 

"ok, I will ask a few questions: do you drink or used to?" 

"no" 

"do you smoke or have smoked anything?" 

"no" 

"have you ever used drugs?" 

"no" 

- insert question here, it was really nice but I don't remember, something like taking risks-

"no" 

"why do you want to live up to 100 years old then?" 

I mean, obviously you won't drive on the other side of the highway just for fun, that's just stupid. Well, I won't go further here because I might offend a few people, but I will just say this: I'd rather live up to 70 yrs old and tell my grandson about this one time I passed out on a party then 4 girls found me lying on the grass and took me home (true story), or any of the funny shits I've been through because I was high/drunk, than telling him at 90yrs old how I had a perfect body and health because I didn't drink. 

I always hang out with friends to have a beer or smoke a joint, not because I want to look cool and be socially acceptable, I just enjoy it. I drink regularly and I smoke (trying to stop though). Honestly I don't care if I will live 70, 80 or 120 years old, I really don't think about it. But if I had to guess, I'd say probably more than 80 because of strong genes also (my dad almost died two times and is healthy as fuck nowadays with almost 70 yrs) and because my lifestyle will change within the years I'll be happy with anything more than 60 though. 

Also, most of us have lived about 1/4 of our lives (excepting ace that lived like 1/45), so we still have plenty of time to screw up.

[Henning Blom]

Also, most of us have lived about 1/4 of our lives (excepting ace that lived like 1/45), so we still have plenty of time to screw up.

I am happy
I drink a little alcohol from time to time which is healthy in the right volumes
I don't smoke
I skateboard, makes me having a good condition and a good body shape
I've got a heavy job so not much need for me to lift weights
I am not taking a lot of stupid risks in different situations
I try to eat healthy, lots of vegetables and meats
I've already been in a car accident, it should mean less chance that something like this happens again
I don't have any enemies

90 years

[RWG]

One day your life is going to flash before your eyes.  Make sure it's worth watching.

[Invertigone]

I never understood the logic of people wanting to die before they grow old.

[Darth Vader]

100 years old. Too bad you ain't gonna be there to see it.

[Illu]

Lately I've lived so healthy that it got unhealthy, I was thinking all the time what to put in the body and staying updated with the latest health trends, eventually there was so much stuff I needed to do each day to improve this and stay healthy that I started feeling incredibly stressed about it and realized with all the stuff that I tried to do I just lowered my life quality.

I'm now trying to get back to not giving a shit or I just feel stressed about all the time thinking about what I need to do so I won't age.

Hoped lifespan some months ago: 250years - yea I seriously thought I had found the fountain of youth and thought it would be worth it living this long and at age 200 I would still be like 20.

Estimated lifespan now: 50 - probably not much fun after that but who knows.

[Illu]

funny topic btw

[vitor]

"I never understood the logic of people wanting to die before they grow old."

I never understood the logic of people not wanting to live before they grow old.

more like that, imo

[Red Bull]

Ha, everything that has been said by Greg is ownage.

[Infected Mind]

It's not important how old you live to be. Its how many experiences and how much enjoyment you got out of it.

"One day your life is going to flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching"

Well put


That being said. with all my drug years, drinking, eating habits etc etc, I Will probly live to be 70-80 years with tons of experiences and a life with lots of stories and awesomeness.

[Time was untied when set.]

<3 Alex

[Darth Vader]

It isn't possible to have a healthy lifestyle and have good stories to tell? Wow that's a new one to me.. 

[Time was untied when set.]

Of course it is. But the point Alex is making is that it is more important to live a life that is full than live an empty, long life and be healthy for the sake of being healthy & living longer. That doesn't mean we should all start doing a bunch of drugs and partying all the time, but obsessing over living to X age is just stupid.

[Carathorn]

Every second you spend trying improving your life expectancy is a complete and utter waste of time imo (unless you're doing retarded stuff of course!)

The only reason you should ever work on your body condition (in any kind of way) is because of the very moment you live in. If it makes you feel good/healther/happier/etc, go for it. Stop trying to live healthy so you could live longer because there are so few guarantees about it, its not worth any of it. Again, ridic behavior not included in this argument.

And yes, even healthy people get cancer, get hit by a car, end up in an airplane crash or get killed on the streets by ouromov for no reason.

[vitor]

"And yes, even healthy people get cancer, get hit by a car, end up in an airplane crash or get killed on the streets by ouromov for no reason."

ROFL

[TreAKAHotdog]

why are you trying to stop smoking, vitor?

[Invertigone]

^Isn't that what he should be doing? He takes years off of his life if he smokes.

[the Blueline Goddess]

Well, all 4 grandparents are still alive, the oldest will be 80 this year (others in the late 70's).  Two are cancer survivors, another has diabetes.  One grandpa has had several heart attacks, with a quadruple bypass a couple years ago.  My father is a cancer survivor.

I plan to live my life to the fullest and hope I get a chance to experience everything I want to!

[vitor]

hmm actually I'm not trying that hard, I'm just trying to smoke less and less until I stop. If I don't, at least I want to smoke less than now. I enjoy smoking, specially when I'm stressed or when I'm waiting for something, etc. But yeah, Alec is kinda right, smoking isn't a really cool thing to do, and if I get to the 40s or 50s still smoking, the odds that I will have some sort of problem because of it will increase. I'm not that irresponsible Also my gf always bitch about it haha

[Infil]

Doing all the "obvious" things to try and prolong your life (not smoking, not doing hardcore drugs, etc) will generally work, but they are far from any guarantees. As has been said, there are numerous cases of totally unhealthy people living to their 90s, and there are numerous cases of extremely healthy people randomly dropping dead from an unexplainable heart attack, or developing a deadly cancer.

The point is, you can't control it. I won't bring in a super religious tone to this post because that's not what the topic is about (although it's where my beliefs lie), but simply "doing everything right" is far from any guarantee you will live long. Even random accidents aside (no amount of "being careful" can prevent you from dying when you have no control over it, such as on a plane or riding a bus, e.g.), otherwise perfectly healthy specimens can develop random life-threatening health problems. There are no guarantees with life. Which is why it's important to (insert Christian tone here).

Of course, it's still wise to avoid doing the stuff that WILL take years off your life or increase your risk of death.

[RWG]

fuck bitches, get money

[Henning Blom]

One of my co workers died in a myocardial infarction when he was only 51 years old and the chances are quite big that it probably wouldn't have happened (that early, if ever) if he didn't smoke.

[Mavalock]

I will die at precisely 2:37 pm GMT on October 26, 2042 after driving a flaming taxi off a cliff only to be dropkicked in midair by Godzilla.

Or maybe I'll get hit by a bus before then, who knows.

[RWG]

Lester Burnham, about his death;

"I guess I could be pretty pissed off about what happened to me... but it's hard to stay mad when there's so much beauty in the world.  Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once... and it's too much.  My heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst.  And then I remember to relax.  And stop trying to hold onto it.  And then it flows through me like rain.  And I can't feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life.  You have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm sure.  But don't worry.  You will someday."

/thread

[wheatrich]

there's also a difference between living and being alive.  There's plenty of people in nursing homes that are either vegetables or physically they are fine but the brain has long gone.  (and yet we keep feeding them a zillion vitamins and try to keep them alive--but that's another wheat rant...)

I don't smoke or drink--but neither did my dad and he died 7 years ago.  there's just too much you can't control--it's really a mathematical distribution with high variance.  (sad how the best reference I can think of is a poker hand--even if you're the life equivalent of AA there's still  cards to come and none of that is in your control)

[Darth Vader]

Well i think if

no smoking
no drinking
always heathly and balanced diet
exercise everyday, stretch out etc
good genes
get's sick rarely
you are happy
socialize often
being careful in general

the chances should be pretty good for +90 if you exclude accidents, suddenly gets infected with a serious desease, or something you can't control. I think a long live can be just as good as a short one, but if you don't want to live and feel like you've experienced enough, then ofc you shouldn't
My grand grandfather didn't exercise, smoked a lot of cigars, drank etc and lived to be 95 and was never on a nursing home or anything, so hell yea it can be kinda random and wierd sometimes.

[TheGreatMax]

Do you mean who will be the last person to live the longest?  Trying to live longer by not smoking, drinking, eating right, etc.,. will also improve how well you live it.

BTW, it doesn't help I have a selective memory and/or didn't notice the warning about not clicking.  But could I have a friend click it for me and/or have somebody else post under my name?

If that's even possible?

[octoinky]

Both grandpas died in 50s of heart attack
Dad with high cholesterol since mid 20s, hasn't eaten dessert since
Mom died of lung cancer (didn't smoke) at 60
Diagnosed with (minor) heart condition at 20

FML

~~~


Being a statistician, I think of death as a the "minimum" of a ton of random variables than can kill you.  As in, the first random event that goes against your favor, you die.  You roll the dice millions of time in your life.  Driving a car, walking across the street, getting in an airplane, swimming in a lake, walking around the streets at 3:00 AM...  Also it is quite random when you may get cancer, have a heart attack, liver disease, stroke, etc.  A lot is culture, economics, genetics, lifestyle, etc., but it's all still random.

You can do things to help stack the odds of those random events in your favor.  But that doesn't change the fact that they are still random.  Yes, what people have listed in this topic help the populations' life expectancy.  But that's billions of data points.  You get one shot at life, and from the number of friends and family I have known to die well before their time, and scumbags still walk this earth, you can't take anything for granted or really expect to have any sort of control whatsoever about how long you'll live.


I live a healthy life because I feel like crap when I'm not.  I exercise because it helps my moods, anxiety, etc.  I sleep 8 hours a day so I enjoy the next day more.  I avoid caffeine, drugs and alcohol in excess because they make me feel like shit.  I don't smoke because it's fucking disgusting.  I don't do any of that to live longer, I do it to enjoy today and hopefully tomorrow even more.


But god willing, I hope I live to 80+

[the Blueline Goddess]

Good points, Octo.  My stepfather was the healthiest person I knew, and one day he got viral encephalitis and was left with damage to the memory portions of his brain (the movie Memento?  Yeah, that's not too far off of what he dealt with) as well as epilepsy.  He had never been sick a day in his life up to that point.

That whole experience led me to just take life one day at a time... when your number is up, it's up.

[Quiet Bol]

Pretty sure weightlifting and fast metabolism are negatives, Jim. It's proven that low-calorie diets extend the human life-span. Bulking up and eating lots of food can make you temporarily stronger and more attractive physically, but you'll burn through your life faster. Also, people are saying they don't drink as if that's the optimal strategy for extending the life span. Drinking in moderation has tons of health benefits and can help you live longer.

P.S. Our bet isn't "official" just because you tried to initiate an e-handshake.

[RWG]

I forget the exact dude's name... maybe I read it in The Game, but there was this French dude who decided when he was like 20 that he would live such an insane life by smoking so many things, drinking so much and having sex with so many women, that he'd be dead by 30 years old.  He went on the partying rampage to end all partying rampages for 10 years and eventually hooked up with some awesome mistress he liked better than the other 100s of women he fucked, and then one day he was with her in a hotel room and he realized that he was 31 years old so he killed himself.

It all depends on what you want to get out of your life.  This dude clearly got what he wanted and was satisfied with it.  Are you satisfied?

Death is only worth fearing if you didn't live a good enough life.