Guitar Hero 3 discussion and PR's

[rshepherd1000]

uh this thread scares me

just beat medium yesterday (never played a gh game before or the guitar) with pretty much everything except Knights and bosses going down first attempt, but only with 3 stars mostly.

with all the struggles posted here from people who like beat the game on hard, all 5 star completions, on the first day they got it, i guess it will be one monumental pain for me to get anywhere near tier 8 of expert

[octoinky]

Shep - I started on medium and didn't start getting 5*s until much later in the difficulty =)
My roommate started on Easy and is now on tier 5 on Expert and going back and getting a lot of 5* on Hard.

Should be really fun to work your way up =)  More fun than maxing out the game, atleast.

[Comet]

This is my first GH game as well, although I've played a few times before I actually bought it so I just started with hard. Finished off tier 7 now and beat Cliffs of Dover. Looks like and uphill climb the rest of the way though

[octoinky]

hehe raining blood on hard is the hardest thing until slash battle on expert



242K paranoid - now the best non-FC score on the wii.  Likely across all consoles lol.  I've gotten so good at doing this level after what is probably 50+ -1s.  I'm now messing up at the 45 43 432 HOPOs where the first note of each of those is strummed.  Maybe going too fast?

Pretty boring when I turn this game on though.
Re-got 282K rock you like a hurricane, and 315K awful run of pride and joy.  Just like playing the levels but doing them more than twice is just so old now.  Mostly playing SMG and MMR anyway =)

[GuitarFailKid]

I remember after the first tier.. I struggled with literally EVERY song after that. I think that there was only 1 song I didn't die on first completion.

expert rules!:-D

every level seems too easy now though. apart from ttfaf but i'm sure that will change a month down the line, i doubt i'll need SP to pass it, if my fingers last that long.....(seriously)

[lassietoverrijst]

wtf Kingpin, how the hell did you made that jump from nothing to passing ttfaf without SP in like 3 months ?? I mean, I've been making progress too, but when tough solo's come up I turn into nothing.

[GuitarFailKid]

 

   

      My grammar isn't the best m8      
     
      I mean't      
     
      every level seems too easy now though. apart from ttfaf but i'm sure that will change a month down the line, i doubt in another month i'll need       SP to pass it, if my fingers last that long.....(seriously)      
     
      But in a way I don't need SP anymore for the first hard part which means I can use full SP for the next hardest part which easily gets me past most       the time now, But to beat the whole song without SP would be a bit crazy on my part. I wanna be able to beat every level without SP though it's gonna       be one of my goals.      
     
     
      You got your times up yet? I wanna see the sorta progress you are making aswel!    

   
    edit: don't worry I've seen your times now!!!!  

 

Edit2, i've just got my first top 100 score..
Bulls On Parade rank 66th with
287083 score
100% notes hit, and fc of 743streak


edit3: holy $@$#, i just five starred number of the beast first try..... I didn't hold a combo AT ALL through any of the verses but I was FCing everything else, even the last part of the solo with the two notes at the end that you have to strum! I could have got like 100k more if I kept a combo through the verses but oh well, it's another five star out the way only 5 left now... I guess it's gotta be take this life next :-S

edit (lost count) FC'd slow ride. another rank that's below 100..... 216692 i was unsure of the star power path seeing as it was my first attempt of the day.

edit again = FC'd Talk dirty to me.

[AEB]

Played GHII today a little (hope it's okay to post it here, löl):

Got another 5* on Jordan Expert, 257K, 87%.

And 310K on Light that blinds, 5*.

[lassietoverrijst]

geez... 5 starring notb is sick. I still need to pass tier 8 songs besides Cliffs, but I find it way more fun to 5 star songs in earlier tiers than killing my fingers on notb.

Anyway, my score page is already heavily outdated, will be updating it tonight so you can actually see some scores maybe worth looking at !

[lassietoverrijst]

YES, I've beaten 'The Way it Ends'... it isn't really that hard now, I just needed to find a rhythm that kept me in green through the verses. Now that I've find it I think it won't be that hard to get decent scores, could be wrong ^^!
And talking 'bout rhythm, with the way it ends beaten, there's only FCPREMIX, Nothing For Me Here, and Take this life left (and ttfaf, duh). Can you help me finding a decent alt-strum technique, which I think all those songs are about!

[rshepherd1000]

Well it turns out that when you play left handed it helps to flip the note sheet in the options first

So yeah this didnt help, but no excuses - the learning curve from medium to hard is still pretty steep for me. Or more specifically slow ride to talk dirty to me was. Took me several hours before i finally beat TDTM and then only because i pulled out a miracle clutch 100% last solo section after finishing solo fall/climb with the needle 0.000001mm from red death.

[GuitarFailKid]

I downstrum FCPREMIX and Nothing for me here. but just give it very quick altstrums on the quick 2211 parts. on both levels. but you really shouldn't worry about trying to keep a combo because even if you ignore them you will still stay in high green if you hit everything else.. FCPREMIX gets hard at about 82% I think and Nothing for me here, stays steadily difficult all the way through but the solo can finish yo off if you don't save SP for it.

Take This Life... you need to alt strum all the way through this level so you just have to find the right speed, I have no problems in beating it anymore but I can't four or five star it as of yet, i'll give it a try later on though because it's one of the few levels i need to five star now.

Good job on the way it ends, I beat that level after FCPREMIX and Nothing for me here.

My gf's only just downloaded the extra songs you can get on the PS3/360, im gonna be going around hers tonight and playing that, or most probably bringin her ps3 back to mine and messing about on it. Would be interesting to see how good I am on a level i've never played before now that i'm more experienced.

[lassietoverrijst]

just don't bother playing The Devil Went Down To Georgia or Slash battle unless you like 8 minute lasting HO/PO's.

Good luck with 5* Take This Life, FCPREMIX and nothing for me here seems doable for me (beating), take this life will be the last song I beat (I bet I will beat ttfaf before that, because I can get a solid 72% in practice without intro tapping ^^)

[GuitarFailKid]

The Devil went down to georgia, is going to be the FIRST level I play :P (see what the fuss is about)

I'll probably warm up first with foo fighters/linkin park or somethign come to think of it though.

Take this life is VERY overwhelming but it's not too bad after you get used to the rythm.... if you beat ttfaf first then gj, weird order... but good job.

I still havn't beat Lou on expert :-/  


edit: I just beat lou on expert:) 1st try, no cheap whammy trick,

------------------
James
YOU BEAT GUITAR HERO III ON EXPERT
Wow, you've mastered expert -- go start a band already! take it to the next level with precision mode cheat! cheats can be unlocked in the options menu

CHEAT HINT: Rock you like a hurricane Riff x2? now what the *!#+ does that mean? FC it?

[wishiwasfamous]

Shep, you are at the expected beginner level! Only a few months ago I was stuck on EASY, the idea of using the pinkie or SHIFTING to orange was completely lost on me and was too difficult. Practice and you'll get it! We've all been where you are currently

And that's lol that you flipped lefty but didn't tell the game.

[GuitarFailKid]

Yeah Shep, a few months ago, i used to die on easy. ttfaf/slayer

I went in this order

Easy all 3 or 4stars, a few five stars then half of medium
back to easy to five star every level

finished off medium 3 or 4 stars, a few 5's again, then got through half of hard mode,
went back and 5starred all of medium apart from ttfaf

completed hard mode all 3 or 4stars a few 5's again... then completed half of expert, etc.etc.etc.etc.

You should see steasy improvement as you start hard mode though, you should be able to pretty much go back to most medium tracks and fc a buttload of them (if you wanted to, i personally couldn't really be bothered to go back a difficulty, it feels too slow and boring if you are already on hard/expert)

keep it up tho bud, cuz it will be fun to play you when you nail expert.

edit: oh and you WILL be on expert soon if you just stick with it. because going from normal to hard mode is difficult only because you have to learn a new button, but going from hard mode to expert is really quite easy... it's just a bit faster and a few more notes the thing that will probably trip you up more is the weird chords that come up a lot. It took me quite a while to get my head around the Cherub Rock level those chords are quite challenging when you first come up against them, but you will be able to pretty much do it with your eyes shut after a lil bit of practice.

[rshepherd1000]

Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.

Id considered dropping back to get better scores on medium (particularly now Im not reading the note sheet in reverse ) but then reasoned that id only be doing it just to avoid learning hard for a bit longer.

Id also be worried that when Im comfortable operating on the early tiers in hard that dropping down again would cause me to unlearn stuff. But I guess youre implying that it in fact helped you.

[GuitarFailKid]

I never had any problem unlearning stuff...

You have to push yourself to learn hard mode.. but then when you've got the hang of the orange button you will sorta... find a new appreciation for GH and find it a way way more fun.

You have to jump around between normal/hard and hard/expert it's the easiest way to progress IMO.

I really don't think you will unlearn anything though you will just be getting better at it the whole time.

For the first tier of hard mode you can always just pick and choose the easy oranges to go for because you can pretty much ignore every orange and still complete the song in very high green rock metre.

also cuz it's hard to shift your hand when you are not used to the oranges it might be easier to start out with your hand on orange I think that way you will pick it up WAY more faster, because in my experience when I was learning, it was always easy to jump my hand back up to green, but almost impossible to jump it back to orange. if you start on orange i think it will get the muscle memory tweaked a lot faster. I never learned it this way but I wish I did because I think i'd have improved 2x faster.

I gotta go and pick up my gf from work and go play some of those downloaded tracks she got... those songs look AWESOME i watched a few utube vids.

[octoinky]

320K Miss Murder - reFC first try, jumped like 100 ranks.  Perfect SP + whammy but no squeeze.
200K Same Old sOng and Dance - hmmmmm , messed up twice before that lame hammer on at the end, but I nailed that other part a few times.  If I took the end to practice mode, and that stupid  solo lick that ends with some 54 pulloffs, I could FC this.  I think i'd have to tap the hammerons at the end, and it'd actually be a good FC.  I might try.  Lame score, didn't play it much.
294K Dont Hold Back - didn't even update this, as I should get more like 300K.


Just playing for minor improvements on levels I enjoy now, not about the points or ranks or anything just havin fun =)

[Cyberwrath87]

I'm not really enjoying this game too much right now.

I don't have NfmH and RaBl 5-starred, but I wouldn't even be having fun trying even though I know I can eventually get it with enough restarts. Playing for FC's isn't much fun anymore since after 28 of them they start to get really annoying. Beating PR's by < 2k is kinda boring, and most people I play against online are completely horrible. Going for FC's on hard is also boring since 1. The songs are too easy  2. Cutting out notes played on expert makes the rhythm really weird and unnatural on Hard.

I wish I had GH2 with me at school instead of GH3.  I'm not sure what else to do with the game right now, so maybe I'll get back into Galaxy and play through with Luigi. But I'll probably end up just focusing on school or something until Brawl comes out.

[PerfectTaste]

two songs left on Tier 7 (Expert).. I still only use 3 fingers.

[AEB]

Before I Forget 5*
Cliffs of Dover 5*

[octoinky]

-1 cherub rock (outro)
-1 in love, 3 times (outro)
-1 la grange, 3 times

also, same old song and dance I can tap that last trill perfectly.  I've nailed the rest of the song up to it like 5 times.  I've also nailed the trill 5 times.  Never on the same run.  Can't say -1, but might as well add it to that list.


yeah, this game is lame.  Those are my only tries of the songs - its not like hours and I get some lucky -1s.  Every single $+@*!+% run I've completed in the last 2 weeks of any song I play is between -1 and -3 unless its a ridic song.  Its always a different place too, not like some random hard part.


I swear if I were able to play a full run consistently front to back I'd be at 40 FCs right now.  Instead every time I pick up the game I get nothing to show despite some ridiculously awesome runs that don't mean anything to me.  I PRed in love and la grange by a ton but didn't even bother updating, I'm tired of being the top score on scorehero without a FC (the case on *many* of my PRs).

[GuitarFailKid]

five star raining blood then you pussies:P

edit: 353k on ttfaf.... I can tap the intro over 90% of the time today. if I can still do it tomorrow then the next day then I consider myself to have mastered tapping the intro.. Still an awful run with lots of combo breaking overstrums missing notes crappy at soloing bla bla bla but 350k is nice:) for me.

I beat ttfaf 100% of the time after i get past the intro now. so that's also a relief.

edit:2 heh, i just noticed something
                                                                                                 

353,881	(3.6)	84%	240	Feb. 11, 2008 @ 11:16 AM
332,541	(3.5)	84%	240	Feb. 10, 2008 @ 6:39 AM

weird.

[lassietoverrijst]

kingpin... how have you learned tapping the intro? What was your strategy? It's next thing I want to learn in GH3 since I believe I can survive ttfaf after the intro ^^!

[GuitarFailKid]

I think the key is in the elbow strumming, and you have got to learn to continue the combo from the red/yellow/blue if it breaks. if you can get back into the combo again you shouldn't really have to worry too much I dont think. You can break your combo like 10 times if you are very good at getting back on again. so it leaves quite a lot of room for error if you practice that part.

Left hand Index=green Middle=red Ring=yellow... right hand index finger for both Blue and orange. (that's how I do it I don't know if you will find it easier with something else or not)

Umm I cheated with a rubber band held on the green for the intro that got me past consistently until I was sure I could beat the rest of the song.. i was crap at tapping at that point, but when I went back to it, it kinda just clicked.. I really think the rubber band helped me with my timing on this song. I started out not using it but when I got to 75% of the song i'd die when I used to tap it and i was inconsistent so it just stressed me out a LOT. so I used a band to learn it, which i think helped. you might wanna think about it. just make sure you don't rely on it.
You really have to keep at it, if it stresses you out too much (which it will) you also have to leave it for a while.

I don't know how far you got with tapping, so I assume you have not attempted it yet.

Just go to practice mode, and put it on slowest.. forget about strumming, just try to get the pattern down on your fingers, it was really difficult to learn it for me at the start. then when you think you have got the pattern, try elbow strumming the first note and continuing a combo to the end of the hammerons.. don't worry about trying to combo the 1234554321123455 part. I still never really get this because I am rushing to get my hand back on the strum bar anyways.

then do the same on Slower then slow... and when it gets to the fastest speed it starts to kinda get difficult, you have to really TAP the buttons very quickly otherwise you will break your combo instantly and in the actual game, the rock metre falls so fucking fast if you don't get back on straight away you will most likely fail, so my best tip is suppose is to practice getting back into a combo from mainly the red/yellow buttons.

I suck at explaining things

[octoinky]

The Metal - 383K  FC - OH NO WAIT NOT A FUCKING FULL COMBO

I messed up 5 notes from the end on a random 1st try.  I'm not exaggerating, 5 notes from the end.  As fucking usual, I go back and botch a million runs, somebody seriously needs to die.

[TheFlash]

Lol, this is comical almost...if you'd hit all these FCs already you'd be like 15 spots higher.

[lassietoverrijst]

Rubber band? Like, taping something over green to ensure you have enough fingers left for the other buttons? I don't quite understand it though ... Without the rubber band, you just need to press and hold green for the whole intro right?

[GuitarFailKid]

yeah rubber band held on green, if you fail, just ping it on the restart option to restart, and you would basically be playing in second position with four buttons without having to worry about the green, then quickly pause, move the rubber band off the button, unpause and continue playing.... I'm only suggesting you use a method to consistently get you past the intro until you are sure you can beat the rest of the song. when you can beat the rest of the song, you will be able to to it much more consistently after that anyway, so when you pass the intro legitimetly then you should be able to pass the song, and then start aiming for a higher score instead of surviving.

[AEB]

One 5*

Very very easy!

[GuitarFailKid]

5*'d nothng for me here... first try of the day. It's not too bad when you get those stupid chord changes
4*'d the way it ends
4*'d take this life :-/

Im gonna go for a four star on ttfaf I suppose

edit: 370k on ttfaf 3.7 star.... lil bit off broke my combo a lot on the easy parts though, i can definitely get a 4star on this tonight if I could be bothered to keep trying but I can't i'll just get it another day.  

edit: for the hell of it I was seeing how consistent I could tap the intro to ttfaf, I did it 7times in a row and failed on the 8th. so I'm pretty consistent now. that 8th time I failed was out of boredom..... pretty much. it's pretty fun to see your "notes hit" streak go up like crazy though. And if you strum like crazy at the start and get your rock metre flashing red it's also fun to watch that rise again aswel.... i'm bored................. i know.

Cyber or Octo... can you please give me some advice on The Way It Ends... It's soo hard to keep a combo, I strum without pausing, and i'm keeping a combo for a x4 multiplier irregularly. I usually break it at x2, I've managed a 4star run but it seems like more of a fluke than anything now because I can't seem to match it, or get another 4 star:( I can't play it anymore tonight, but tomorrow i'll just play it non stop until I nail the bastard. would appreciate any help though guys:D thanks

[Silent Thunder]

No FCs or anything for me in the past couple weeks because I decided I needed to switch from playing lefty(how I originally learned) to playing righty(which is how I should have learned since I'm right-handed, plus the controller was designed with this in mind).

I've been pretty successful in switching, and I'm getting close to the same skill level playing righty as I have playing lefty.  My reason for switching is that I do play medium for high scores, and I'm unable to whammy for SP as much as possible playing lefty.  It's also impossible to activate SP using the select button with the wireless guitar while playing lefty, which also puts me at a big disadvantage.

So far I've 5 starred most of hard, except the last two tiers and I've gotten through a good portion of expert.

The fun things is that learning to play right-handed hasn't interferred with my being able to play lefty, so I can switch hands at will.  You would think switching hands would lead to confusion(a rub your tummy, pat your head kind of thing), but it doesn't.

I also never put on lefty flip while origanally learning, so I don't have to deal with unlearning that.

[Cyberwrath87]

The Way It Ends - use pauses if you're actually trying for a high score. They come in waves of 3 and 5 (in terms of amount of strums in between pauses).  It usually goes Strum - Strum(x5) - Strum (x5) - (Strum (x3) - Strum(x5) - Strum(x5) - Strum(x3), etc. Also, when ever the shape of the strums looks like a "T" (RYB w/ a stream of yellows, or the GRB with a stream of reds), always keep the lower fret held down, and just use your pinky/ring finger to tap the blue for each one.

Once you learn this rhythm, the ONLY hard part about 5-starring the song is simply endurance. The normal speed usually gets me really tired halfway to the solo, so unless you beat off 3 times a day and have the forearm/wrist strength, I'd recommend trying to get a quick pause in when you break your combo at some point and feel tired.

[GuitarFailKid]

I shouldn't need a break then because I beat off WAAAAAY more than 3 times a day.

I wish I didn't have to go to college cuz Iwanna give it a shot at five starring the level now, hey thanks for the tips bud it will definitely help cuz I had no idea you should leave small pauses.. thanks man! ill edit this post in later and tell you how I do

[octoinky]

Yeah, each pause is basically leaving out an up.  I recommend having a very loose grip, and sorta slapping up and down with thumb and index fingers.  Slap VERY hard right before the pause, so you sorta force your index finger to fling really far down, and you wont strum with it on the way back up due to being so far away with that finger.  Then you can keep your wrist flicking in a constant rhythm.

Make sure you FC the first part of the solos, and use SP during.. the awesome part?  Lol.  There is SP in that part!!!  wait until you get it, then activate immediately.  Else, obv just keep using it as you get it during the song, no point waiting for parts you're better at as its really the same stuff over and over.

[AEB]

Knights of Cydonia 5*
Stricken 5*
Pride & Joy 5*
"Only" 3's & 7's, Raining Blood and Number of the Beast left to 5* (not counting bonus songs. I haven't event tried half of them yet so).

Edit:

3's & 7's 5*, 324K. I got 300+ notes hit. My score was like 130K earlier today. Fun to play!
TTFAF 364K, got 99% on "They're hammer ons" =P

[octoinky]

423.5K Avalancha - reFC with the most awesome SP path known to man.  Still only 14th as my activations were iffy, I was shooting for (and probably will go for) top 10.

336K Pride and Joy - FINALLY I hit all the star powers in this darn song.  21K jump, and I had a few uncharacteristic mistakes.  Obv not FCable, there are a few random trills that just don't happen for me, and I don't want to put the effort into them.  I'm suprised this is only 42nd place, as I felt it was a solid run.  Oh well.



Didn't have too much fun until pride and joy, I jumped around a lot of songs with no success :-/

1/8th of the way from 22 to 23 mil .  Ha.

[Comet]

Made it to Slash on expert mode, but having difficulty beating him. I still didn't manage to beat Raining Blood on hard either... Mosh 1 just rips me apart every time.

[TheFlash]

423.5K Avalancha - reFC with the most awesome SP path known to man. Still only 14th as my activations were iffy, I was shooting for (and probably will go   for)  
  top 10.  
 
 
 
 
  336K Pride and Joy - FINALLY I hit all the star powers in this darn song. 21K jump, and I had a few uncharacteristic mistakes. Obv not FCable, there are a  
  few random trills that just don't happen for me, and I don't want to put the effort into them. I'm suprised this is only 42nd place, as I felt it  
  was a solid run. Oh well.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Didn't have too much fun until pride and joy, I jumped around a lot of songs with no success :-/  
 
 
 
 
  1/8th of the way from 22 to 23 mil . Ha.

 

Nice improvements, coops had a great day from what he typed on the other board...you better hack out a few more FCs now...

[octoinky]

Dude, seriously?  Fuck this game beyond all recognition.

249K La Grange, 688 streak, best non FC score on the Wii.


And that to the fucking list of best scores that aren't a FC.  Was first attempt, can't bring myself to even play this level again after that choke, I really can't believe how this is going for me.

Oh yeah, went to re-FC avalancha again with more precise timing.  969 notes in the song.  Break streak at 956.  Seriously?  God

[Axel A]

Completed Cliffs of Dover on Expert! Only song in tier 8 completed so far. Also have all boss battles to do.

[PerfectTaste]

wow, nice Axel

I completed Tier 7 on Expert yesterday.
only Tier 8+extrasongs left.

[Axel A]

Number of the beast, Expert, completed! Not so tough.

[AEB]

3's & 7's - 337K

Did a whole bunch of stupid mistakes, but this score is pretty good for me still. Got a 568 note streak on another run that could've been a lot higher but I screwed up=P

[Comet]

Beat Slash on Expert now. Got through Cherub Rock and Black Magic Woman in tier 6. Had a few good runs at Black Sunshine that I failed over 80% through. The Metal is giving me a lot of trouble though.

[octoinky]

Black sunshine 2 more tries you pass it no problem, guaranteed.  It is simply a song knowledge track.

The metal is one riff and an interlude.  Save SP for the interlude just in case.  The main riff, strum that stupid yellow note.  Also, KEEP YOUR G/R fingers down for the yellow!!!!!!!!!.  Then for the hammer ons, consider moving over to 2nd position immediately so you dont really use your pinky much =).


Tier 6 encore is the toughest song of the game up to this point, IMO, outside of slash battle (which is toughest until tier 7 encore for me!).  However, if you can beat slash and pass those solos without death it means your HOPOs are at a level so that you should be able to complete everything that doesn't need stupid tricks / star power to beat (solos of tier 8, basically)

[AEB]

I finally decided to sit down and get that stupid whammy and beat Lou, which I did, yay. Nice to see 42 of 42. I got bored of playing Expert so I went and got 5* on all songs (not counting bonus) on Hard, so I could buy some stuff;P

[wishiwasfamous]

random prs on random songs yay

[TheFlash]

Got my "Return your GH3 disc for a replacement" thing in the mail yesterday and sent it in today = no GH3 for a while.