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Suicide-Eagle

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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2003, 11:29:00 pm »
So is this game hard or what.  I mean, is it Monkey Ball open master hard or Monkey Ball 9999 hard?

SnapDragon64

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« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2003, 12:26:00 pm »
Let me be brutally blunt: breaking 30 million on this game makes Monkey Ball 9999 look easy... and some of the Japanese players have even gone beyond that.  Just winning the game on a credit in Challenge mode is going to be MUCH harder than unlocking Master was in SMB...

This game is just crazy hard, and that's even if you're not going for chains.

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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2003, 12:50:00 pm »
Wow.  That hard.  That means it'll be my kind of game then.  I think anything harder than getting that damn 9999 has to be experienced to be believed :)  .

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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2003, 03:43:00 pm »
Yep, the difficulty on this game runs very deep if you're willing to dig into the game. I cleared Easy mode in just over 4 hours, but I have barely scratched the surface of what lies before me. Even beating Easy on a credit is proving to be a tough challenge. :)  Then you have the tougher difficulties as well as the challenge of keeping your chain alive and improving it. You'll need to have almost every move planned and executed perfectly to get an amazing score.

From what I've played so far, I'm in agreement with Snap that beating Challenge mode on a credit will be tougher than unlocking Master on SMB.

I played for a couple more hours last night, and I managed to win Easy on 3 credits. I may have to rethink my plan to avoid learning chaining if I want to win on a single credit! The way I'm playing now, I get my first extra life on level 3, and I doubt I'll get another before winning the game. If I could even get 2 extra lives from points it would be a huge help.

I don't know if I like the chaining system so far though. It seems extremely well designed, but I don't really enjoy it so far. I like shooting without thinking and just blowing everything I see to hell. Oh well, maybe I'll like chaining more once I practice it some and get better at it.

SnapDragon64

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« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2003, 06:26:00 pm »
sdkess: Yeah, chaining really grows on you. :)  

Are you playing with 5 lives per credit and new lives every 2 million points?  If not, you should change those settings in the Options menu.  You'll probably get at LEAST 3 extra lives over the course of the game, giving you 8+ lives... that's how I managed it. :b  

Of course, in Challenge mode you get 3 to start and extra lives are extremely hard to come by.  Nasty!

So, I hope people haven't given up on this game!  I need some good competition ... not counting the 20m+ freaks on GameFAQs who I'll never match. :rolleyes   We could start with level 1.  Can anyone beat a 117 chain in level 1?  BDG?

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« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2003, 08:03:00 pm »
I've only hit a chain of 85 on chapter 1 and chapter 2 is just discraceful compared to yours.  I'm not in a strenous streak of conquest mode working on chapter 1.  If I add up all the parts I break about 100 to 105, but I've got to start actually playing the level straight through and making it all go together :/.  I'm not quite sure where  I'm missing another 10-20 chains though.  I suppose I'll have to watch some videos a couple hundred more times.

The other day I finally broke 5 million for my challenege mode score.  Other than that I think its been frustrating me too much to do many 2 or 3 hour sessions lol.

On another note.  Has anyone else noticed some issues with the sound?  After I play for an hour or more the sound starts really dying on me.  Like explosion sounds don't happen or cut themselves off.  I've even had the game freeze on one or two occasions too.  I'm not quite sure what the deal is...

SnapDragon64

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« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2003, 01:58:00 am »
BDG: Cool, try for 117.  If you need strategy help, just ask.  I get 7 rows of enemies just after 1-3 (the 2 pairs of black/white ships), so I have a 70 chain at the start of 1-4.  And I get 6 rows of enemies after the trains (but chaining these is rather annoying and random; I shoot up the middle and skip one black strategically, and it USUALLY works...).  I only shoot 2 black and 2 white out of the second set of small ships during the trains; I guess that's the main area I should improve on.  The Japanese chain record is 132!! :eek   I just can't compare...

If you haven't really worked on chaining the 6 rows at the end, then 105 is quite good!  And great job reaching 5 million... I see you're at a comfortable 76th.  The competition's heating up, and staying on the board keeps getting harder!

I hit 11 million today!  W00t!  And FINALLY, FINALLY reached stage 4 on a credit.  Yeesh.  (I was so happy, I died on like the third set of enemies :) )  Now I need to start practicing it.  Though I seriously can't see myself being able to get past the first 3 stages at all consistently.  Stage 3 always SLAUGHTERS me... :x   I don't even want to think what trying to chain Stage 4 will be like.

Oh, and yeah, I've had one case where the sound went weird on me, and a couple of crashes (usually after the game over during Challenge mode).  Pity.

I love the Ikaruga videos, but impressive as they are, they're still not even close to the optimal Japanese strategies.  I saw a page with diagrams of a few of them, and they're UNBELIEVABLE.  For instance, they have a pattern for killing ALL the enemies in 2-1!

sdkess

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« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2003, 03:05:00 am »
I haven't had any issues with the sound yet, but I haven't played for more than 2 hours at a time. My playing ability starts degrading after that.

Awesome job passing 11 million Snap! I tried Challenge mode for a bit a broke 4 mil, but that doesn't even get me in the top 100... I also very nearly beat Easy on a credit. I continued once and then lost 2 more lives before finishing. At that point I was kicking myself for the 3 lives I lost on the level 3 mini boss...

Oh well, I guess I shouldn't complain since I am getting closer!

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« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2003, 06:57:00 pm »
I felt like working on my chaining so I could get more lives, and I'm now ranked 66th with a score of 5451610. I'm pretty sure I could break 6 million with a better run since I made some mistakes. I'm still happy with that score though for now. :)  

My chaining is still pretty crappy. I only get around 70 on level 1, but I can get that almost every time. Hmm, maybe it's time for me to download some of those S++ videos...

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« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2003, 08:41:00 pm »
I'm back yet again. :)  I just beat Easy on a credit to unlock the 3rd extra. I had 1 life remaining when I finished with a score of just over 10 million. Now I have 10:22 on my play clock.

I probably won't play any more this weekend because I have too much work to do, but man is this game fun.

Silfreon8

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« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2003, 09:01:00 pm »
I'm going to order this game today, although I don't know if my skills are any good against yours. We'll see, then.

Suicide-Eagle

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« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2003, 08:37:00 pm »
Nah.  The trouble with NGC magazine is that they don't know games that well individually to care about some stupid PAL NTSC issue.  They have too many things to do to be worrying about that.  Anyway.  rjpageuk deserves a prize more than anybody else in thoue country as he has 134 chain.

I took a break from Ikaruga for about a week.  Then a few days ago I met Phil Hughes (finally...) We played Ikaruga and the way he played motivated me to play too.  So I unlocked chapter 4 on practice and conquest.  Now I'm working on chaining 2-2.  I'm having a little trouble after the first box section (with shield changing) but that's what I'll sort tomorrow.  Then I'll play that level for some high scores until I settle on a strategy that I can do fairly consistently, then I'll do chapter 3 in the same way.  I can chain the first bit of 3-1 as per the pro vids about 1/3 now (about 1/8 when I'm nervous).  And 4-1 just about every go.  5-1 will be easy to learn too as I find I'm better at the memorizing where ships will come from and blasting them than the intricate zig zagging box dodging sort of stuff.   Now I want to play the game loads :)  .  I really want to beat 30 million so badly and it will be my ultimate goal in any gaming (second is 9999 play points on Monkey Ball 1 which I've already done and third is 17080 on SMB2).

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« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2003, 09:54:00 pm »
Actually, I just played a little bit myself. While not going for a score, I managed to unlock chapter 5 in practice mode which is pretty cool. So yeah, I now have all of easy and all of normal unlocked for future use. I also started a little on hard and managed to make it to the second chapter boss on my first try which was pretty respectable. I hope to have unlocked the whole game by the end of the week.

In other news, I've been spending a lot of my free time finishing off Zelda good and proper. Managed to find all 61 treasure charts and I've completed the main 49. The other 12 are not essential to beat the game 100%, but I'll get my moneys worth by investigating all secret caves, submarines and such like. I also went on a rampage and pushed my heart piece total to 42, meaning I simply have to find the remaining two, both of which I am sure can be found in submarines or secret caves.

PH

Silfreon8

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« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2003, 10:23:00 pm »
Another update: 23,080,220. A fairly decent run, I passed sdkess on the rankings too. I'd really like to get at least 25 million, but I'll wait to see whether they decide to leave the Net Ranking functional after the competition ends.

Suicide-Eagle

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« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2003, 10:10:00 am »
Whoa!  That's one really nice score there.  Congrats.  I'd give anything to be that good :)  (no really.  Who want's my trumpets to sell ;)  )

I like to see each day bring about a new piece of progress as far as getting higher chains is concerned.  So today here's what I learned.  You know pretty much right at the end of 3-1 (right after you go through a little gap, before the sets of bonus enemies).  There are a load of black and white ships flying in some crazy pattern.  Phil.  Advice here as your method was pretty slow.  Get yourself a full set of missiles and before they are shootable get into the middle of the pack and when all the ships of one colour are in the middle release all missiles.  Then immediately hold back, release the collected shots and clear up the straglers.  It may look crazy on Snap's vids but it just works  No two ways about it.  You just shoot and bam.  Every go.  It's not like you need lucky missiles or anything.  I like this method.  It looks really amazing when you do it :)  .
I really can't wait to be able to do some serious 3-1 chaining.  Only a few days away now :D .  Damn this is what playing the game is all about.  that feeling of acheievement and bad assmanship that is definitely unique to this game.  It's such a challenge at first but it can be learned to consistency so those still experiencing the challenge think you're god on ice skates :)  .  Not something like :16 Chicago A.  A real challenge but can't really be learned to consistency so you're always in the same boat as the other people who can do it.  This game lets you really shine out over people who haven't learned it.  Know what I mean?

sdkess

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« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2003, 02:16:00 pm »
That's a great score Silfreon! Keep up the nice work. It would be cool if some of us here could pass 25 million and maybe even join Snap in the 30 million club.

My motivation to play Ikaruga is beginning to return, but I might not get to play any before the contest ends... Work has been such a pain lately. I'm praying that the ranking site will remain functional after the contest since I'm still interested in playing.

BTW, does anyone here with a fast connection have Snap's 32 million video? I don't have it, but I want it. I haven't been successful getting it from eDonkey so if anyone here is willing to send it to me I'd be very grateful. I have cable so it should be a relatively quick download.

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« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2003, 02:16:00 pm »
Yeah. I haven't had much time at all recently to play Ikaruga or my GC for that matter. Been going out more like I promised myself I would. I shouldn't have got it like you said. Ah well. Need a portable screen. Could be playing it for 8 hours straight on a plane. :p

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« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2003, 05:43:00 pm »
Progressed up to the chapter 3 boss on hard mode today. I've mastered chapter 1 and 2, so I'm going to play chapter 3 and hopefully Ill unlock chapter 4 too. Again, I hope to have unlocked everything by the end of the week.

PH

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« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2003, 07:23:00 pm »
11914830 - Challenge Mode - Arcade

While I got it first go after playing pool it was quite a disapointing score for one reason, that being that I was around 12 seconds from another easy 2 million being added to my score :)  Yeah, you guessed it, I was killed late in the battle with the fourth chapters boss.

The run itself was pretty cool with 105 / 128 / 93 / 57 chains, all being my personal bests despite the pitiful 57 effort :x

PH

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« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2003, 08:47:00 pm »
After about 2 hours of ripping my hair out (When I got mad I threw my controller in the air) I can finally put something together on 2-2.  I really really hate that bit.  I've made it up all myself so I know the strat better.  It's not amazing. Basically playing it really really safe.  I can't chain the ring after the bit where you sit there and let the ships fly through your shots.  I also managed a 60 chain through 3-1 just then.  So that's pretty encouraging :)  .

Arcade - 6,973,960
1 - 3,375,220 (105)
2 - 3,460,210 (106) :)   Oh yeah, really getting somewhere with this one
3 - 138,530 (11) I had 0 extra lives and I screwed up the chain.  Had I got this right I would've been pushing 8.5 million :(

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« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2003, 09:56:00 pm »
woohoo, after moving home I lost the address for this ikaruga board, was wondering how the other PAL guys were doing, was worried that SE would've run away with the PAL scores but we're about the same, I can chain upto the end of 3-1, best run was just over 9mill, 3.5mill chap1, 4mill chap2, and 1.5mill on chap3 for some strange reason I have loads of difficulty with the chap2 boss, I always lose at least one life on it and I've no idea why I'm finding it so hard.

good to be back and come on 10mill!

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« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2003, 10:38:00 pm »
As of this moment I can chain all chapter 1 (about 1/3), I need to fine tune my chaining on chapter 2 and I'll start work on that tomorrow, most of 3-1, bits of 3-2 and 4-1.

Suicide-Eagle

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« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2003, 05:46:00 pm »
Replying to Phil's post in the PAL Zeda topic:

:lol  .  You suck.  Did you really trash your room?
I've done the chapter 4 boss 3 times now (basically the last 3 times I've tried) without dying so wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!  I haven't played today.  Chapter 2 is looking better.  My record is about 3.8 million.  I won't leave it until I can do at least 4.5 million about as consistently as chapter 1 3.4 million.  I hate the start and end of 3-1.  I hate everything after the lasers in 3-2.  The boss on chapter 3 is the only thing stopping me from unlocking chapter 4 on Normal.  I also need to do work on chapter 4 on easy.  Then I can get chapter 5 on conquest which'll take me about 3 minutes to learn to chain.
You know what I hate.  The way on conquest mode if you want to practice for example the boss you can't go in with a set of missiles and practice using them like you would if you did the whole level.

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« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2003, 05:55:00 pm »
Frustration is kicking me in the head right now. I just got back from pool, where I actually broke a pool in anger after getting screwed in five consecutive racks. Because of this I am now in isolation from the world as I believe it thoroughly hates me. I hate @#%$ chance, I hate the bastard.

PH

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« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2003, 11:22:00 am »
You broke a Pool cue. Did you have to pay for that? In my Ikaruga advances I have the fact that I can chain 1-2 perfectly. Which is fun. :x

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« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2003, 02:14:00 pm »
No, I never paid for it. I just got out of there fast. Thing is, it was an absolutely shite cue, so like I care. The place we played only had that cue, and I don't have my own anyway. To put it into perspective, when you took a shot it would rattle on the inside, and you could never get a perfectly clean hit. That type of thing really pisses me off.

PH

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« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2003, 03:12:00 pm »
Where did you play like a pub or a club? You know the moral to this?
Don't play in anywhere other than somewhere that specialises in Pool and Snooker.

Suicide-Eagle

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« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2003, 06:35:00 pm »
Or don't play at all.
I came so damn close to getting chapter 5 in conquest.  Damn chapter 3 boss draining my lives leaving me only 1 spare to do chapter 4 with.  I had 0 spare by the boss and the one damn time it actually mattered whether or not I die I go and bloody die!  :(   The chapter 3 boss is the hardest in the game IMO.
On another note.  Some lad I know got knocked out today while on a roundabout when somebody managed to ride a skateboard into his head.  So we kind of dragged him to the hospital/clinic kind of thing and he had stitches.  We happened to be filming stuff (like my backflip off the swings :D ) so expect a video of the event online sometime soon.

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« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2003, 07:35:00 pm »
I played again today at my usual place and shot an awesome black ball. I guess that sort of compensates what took place in the previous match, but that doesn't change things. The problem is, I am actually addicted to pool. If I had my own table I'd give up gaming right there and then, but we don't have the necessary space.

PH

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« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2003, 09:29:00 am »
Ooh a skateboard into the head. I hope that's on the video. What was he doing lying on the floor or something? Yeah I would like my own pool table. There's a lad in my year in school who is amazing at snooker. I mean he has a highest break of like 138 which is pretty damn amazing.

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« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2003, 06:41:00 pm »
Hey hey!  Let's keep on topic here.  Talk about pool on AIM.  Hang on a sec.... I sound like Food :eek  . Hehe.

Right.  I'm sorting out my weakest part now.  Chapter 3 boss.  So I can do it on conquest only losing one life.  That's my record.  Phil.  What's your strat?  I could really use that.  Also.  Are you putting together a tape of your 15 million run when you get it?  I'd like to see/have a copy of that when you get it please :)  .

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« Reply #81 on: January 01, 2004, 01:39:00 am »
I got this game for Christmas, and it looks like I'll be working on this game for a while.  I can clearly see that this game will be REALLY difficult to master.  My game timer is currently at nearly 7 hours (though it should be 8 because I overlooked the autosave feature at first).  My high score is 3.93 million.  I set the options to 3 lives a credit and reached the chapter 3 miniboss (the one with the 4 wave beam things) before getting a game over.  I really have to work on surviving chapter 3...

I played some more and managed a score of 4.40 million (died at the same place).  I also had infinite continues unlocked, so I played it to the end.  That last chapter was awesome. :eek   I hope I'll be able to unlock it in practice at some point...

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« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2004, 12:24:00 pm »
yoshifan, you should take a look at the gameFAQs IKaruga board, its still active and has some of the world's best players posting there. There's also a ranking topic, where you can compare your scores with everyone elses (really helpful!)

cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/g...oard=34161

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« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2004, 11:01:00 pm »
Well, after a long break I decided to play a little, and got a new record: 26,533,700. It's amazing that I still memorized the patterns, Ikaruga truly stays in your brain. Anyone else still play this game?

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« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2004, 07:54:00 pm »
Well, my score for Easy is 10,467,440 now (I died at 5-2 in that run).  I think I can win on a credit (on default settings for lives) eventually with a bit more practice on the final boss.  However, I've switched to playing MK: DD for the moment as "everyone" seems to be playing it...I still think about Ikaruga a lot, though.  Good to know that the patterns don't leave your mind easily so I can later start where I left off. :)

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« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2007, 05:58:00 pm »
It really is a shame that this topic got owned.  Oh well.
After a .. 3 year break I learned some strats. ie, bonus ships on chapter 3.  Also got more consistent on chapter 4 (didn't stop me messing up though!)

30,073,380

Chapter 1 - 3,999,830 - 127 chain
Chapter 2 - 5,853,820 - 189 chain
Chapter 3 - 6,600,770 - 218 chain
Chapter 4 - 6,350,440 - 182 chain
Chapter 5 - 5,214,320 - 114 chain

4 life extend :rolleyes

I broke my chain on chapter 4 thanks to one stupid ship near the end.  Chould have been 6.7 with 200 chain.
Died on the grid boss on chapter 5 and 3 times on the stone like!  I was a little shakey though!  My potential max is in the 32 - 32.5 million ballpark.

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« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2007, 02:31:00 am »
Nicely done Seagle!  I gave you a start, but you should expand on Ikaruga section of your Bio with info like this.

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