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*** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***

Marc Rutzou
19 (44.2%)
David Clemens
0 (0%)
Rayan I.
1 (2.3%)
Ryan White
17 (39.5%)
Ryan Lockwood
3 (7%)
Philip Bezgoubov
2 (4.7%)
Ilari Pekkala
1 (2.3%)

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*** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« on: August 02, 2014, 06:26:27 am »
This is a simple question. Who had to become the biggest degenerate to achieve a certain rank on the GE rankings? Another way to ask this is, which of these players would not have peaked at their highest ranking spot without them allowing their life to become degenerate enough where they could play for 10h/day or more?

You are allowed to vote on multiple choices in the poll.

Here are some clarifiers for each player;

Marc Rutzou - Did not wash his dishes for over a month while grinding Train. Hadn't seen sunlight for over 4 months and claims to have had 12 hour sessions of Dam 00 Agent in 2011. Has become so insane  that he's joined a truth cult. It is clear that while he is a top player, he definitely no-lifed some levels to achieve insane records like Dam 1:16 and Train 0:58; the only reason why they still stand today. Furthermore he has no job (likely never will) and lives off a pittance. NDU: He still has respect from a few players for his gifted skill.

David Clemens - The only top player who continuously grinded the game from 2006-2013 almost non-stop, 7 years. Spent most of Christmas day 2012 playing Control Agent. Was so into the game at one point that he would flame others for disagreeing with him on some trivial point (e.g. went on a massive rant when Ace tied a couple of his precious records). To add to his degeneracy, most of his videos are improperly captured or recorded on a 2001 Nokia Phone. Was also so addicted that he came out of retirement 5+ times. NDU: Has focused more on real-life these days, has a gf and is respected by many players in the speedrun community.

Rayan I. - Has the most untieds and is 1st by a large margin, so it's clear how much he has no-lifed this game and Perfect Dark in his entire career (over 10,000 hours, which is more than 1.25 years of continuous play). Has spent the 2nd most amount of time on the boards. NDU: Has a social life, achieves good grades and is one of very few normal speedrunners.

Ryan White - Streams almost every night in his basement till 5am. Takes a considerably long amount of time to achieve certain records (100 for Streets SA, 160+ for B1 00A, 1250 for Silo SA 1:10). Has spent the most amount of time on the boards. Has so much free time that he enjoys trolling various boards. Considered by many to be the biggest drama queen The Elite has ever seen. NDU: Is by far the most popular Elite streamer, spearheaded GoldenEye streaming and earns money from playing.

Ryan Lockwood - Plays Hitman and GoldenEye 16 hours a day and STILL struggles to PB. Need I say more? NDU: He's obviously a legend.

Ilari Pekkala - Unsure if he has ever had a job in his entire life (despite being around 30 years old) and just spends time going for random, irrelevant records. Life further exacerbated when he went on a vegan diet and unfortunately it's the only thing he talks about apart from GE.

Philip Bezgoubov - Sits at home all day either watching streams or asking people to stream. NDU: ???
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 06:53:47 am by On The Train »

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2014, 07:14:29 am »
Lol, these posts are becoming more and more like Goose's every day. This could literally be a Goose post. It's all entertaining though.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2014, 07:22:04 am »
Tough call between Inky and Woody.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 08:32:16 am »
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 09:22:01 am »
Sorry, it's Brandon Sanford.  I'm shocked you left him off the poll.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 11:13:57 am »
voted inky because of the legendary Aztec / Dam / Train grinds combined with living off disability money, not knowing what salt is and not washing the dishes for months at a time.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2014, 12:33:09 pm »
lol'd at Clemens spending most of Christmas Day 2012 playing control agent.  :pimp:
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2014, 08:13:44 pm »
Sorry, it's Brandon Sanford.  I'm shocked you left him off the poll.

Thanks for letting me know I'm on your mind goose.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2014, 09:15:58 pm »
case and point

hadn't posted in 2 months, appears as soon as his name is mentioned, clearly reads all the boards at all times even though he doesn't post or play anymore

still hasn't changed the avatar Ngamer automated to him... 3 years ago.

Marc is probably still #1, but bcks is a definite #2 as evidenced here.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 01:19:47 am »
Surprised that Goose's match made in heaven Gragz hasn't been mentioned. I seem to remember his claim of 500 hours fo Dam agent...that's some serious Degen.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2014, 03:22:04 am »
1250 for Silo SA 1:10

Holy crap :o. Over how long a time period is this? Don't most runners call it quits after 200 hours or so?

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2014, 03:46:19 am »
Yeah Gragz also spent an unknown amount of time in prison for assault, did indeed take 500 hours for Dam 53, was terrible at GE, got "an untied" which lasted a few hours.  Yeah, he might actually be #1 tbh.

1250 was obviously an exaggeration, just like every other post I make :nesquik:
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2014, 04:50:36 am »
LOL how could I forget Gragz? Yeah he's definitely up there.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2014, 05:04:35 am »
case and point

hadn't posted in 2 months, appears as soon as his name is mentioned, clearly reads all the boards at all times even though he doesn't post or play anymore

still hasn't changed the avatar Ngamer automated to him... 3 years ago.

Marc is probably still #1, but bcks is a definite #2 as evidenced here.

Actually I don't read the boards much anymore. I still have TEN as my home page, so whenever there is a front page post(it reminds me, since its so infrequent), or I feel like it, I check the new wrs.
If a topic catch's my eye, and looks newish, i might check it out. Feel free to bash me in the nonchalant topics with boring titles. I won't see them.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2014, 05:34:22 am »
Thanks bcks <3

you're a good guy and posts like that make me feel bad for ever making fun of you

I hope life is treating you well
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2014, 09:02:19 am »
amazing

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2014, 01:05:15 pm »
Honestly pretty glad I didn't make the list. Prob grinded like 10K hours for only 3 career untieds ever.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2014, 01:07:36 pm »
lol Jim that's pretty funny actually :)

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2014, 06:25:43 pm »
lol someone voted Philip
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2014, 08:42:31 am »
The fact that I have 9 votes in here is a complete joke.  I'm like 100x less degenerate than Clemens.  (I worked as a government agent as a park ranger for 5 years... Clemens works at a grocery store.  My stream gets 1000 viewers watching me play DEPOT AGENT, paying me as much money as Clemens does working at the grocery store, while his stream is a fucking Nokia 2001 pointed at a TV screen.)

These 9 are all spite votes.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2014, 09:51:29 am »
Bursted out laughing in public upon reading "2001 Nokia pointed at a TV"

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2014, 10:01:46 am »
11 votes now. Nice to see r/speedrun start to show up.

Do people not understand I make about $15/hr playing video games.  That is LITERALLY the exact opposite of degenerate.  That is successful, productive for the economy, meaningful and life fulfilling.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2014, 11:22:42 am »
$15 mean? Median? Peak? If Clemens made $20/hr for one day would he suddenly become the opposite of degenerate?

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2014, 11:48:52 am »
Omg 13-13

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2014, 11:55:25 am »
Don't get caught up in people's judgements. I got past that myself a while ago.

Like, dumb people say things to me like 'you're pale' etc in the past I used to care but nowadays I don't give a fuck, cause what actually matters is results. People think I'm ugly? Don't care, I can bang women whenever I want. Why does it matter if people think I'm ugly if I can get laid?

Goose, don't care about what people say, care about results. From what I see, the results you get are pretty good. Don't look for people's opinions, look for actual tangible results and care about those :)

I personally don't care that much for opinions anymore, cause I get a lot of actual results that are good. There are a lot of people in the world so even if 99% of people don't like you, 1% is a hell of a lot.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2014, 11:55:55 am »
$15 mean

peak is like $700/hr

kind of funny considering this is my job and people are calling me degenerate for doing it

I don't go into law offices or garbage trucks and start calling people who work there "degenerates" for going to work
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2014, 12:07:18 pm »
So in the last 7 years (+/-) you've made over $200k at gaming?

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2014, 12:11:10 pm »
No but in the last 200 hours I've made $3000
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2014, 03:24:22 pm »
Is someone making money playing videogames? Gosh, I better go to every single internet forum that I know of and shitpost about him being a troll having no life, living in his parents' basement and being a loser. I mean, he is making money doing what he loves, but by posting like that at least I'll cry less when I go to bed after spending my entire day doing nothing (pretty much what I've been doing in the past months) with the exception of touching my small penis fantasizing about anime boobs and girls I didn't fuck on high school. All of that in a depressive, self-pity, truthcontest state of mind.

So yeah, fuck you goose, you degenerate. You're 25, live in your parents' basement, have no job and no girlfriend. Loser.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2014, 04:26:22 pm »
<3 Spec
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2014, 06:06:16 pm »
Wait, people are actually believing that Goose is devastated over the poll results?


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Clever strategy though. Trick people into voting for you with the "OH WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING FOR ME, I AM SO UPSET" speech, so you can stay in the spotlight for a little longer. "No such thing as bad publicity", yeah?  :nesquik: Popularity 101, I guess.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2014, 07:18:57 pm »
Don't even mention, if you leak this line of thought to r/speedrun THEN they will think that the "goosethread" might be a popularity trick. (because just like the trolling thing, someone has to openly explain it for them to consider such possibility)

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2014, 07:27:09 pm »
I don't think people, in general, don't care that you play games, it's just your attitude. 100%. I'm not really sure you've ever understood that.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2014, 07:33:39 pm »
No offense to any parties involved, but this new uh... "rivalry" between Reddit and the Elite is very, VERY, overwhelmingly stupid, imo. I know it's just heavy trolling and stuff, but it's... unnecessary as fuck. Way too artificial for me.

Sorry, had to get this off my chest. Carry on.

edit - wow, I wrote "it's just" 3 times in one line. Amazing vocabulary skills.
another edit - and I think "any parts involved" isn't correct, it's "parties", right...? Ah well, edited that too.  :p
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2014, 09:40:22 pm »
I've just accepted that Goose acts the way any athlete would act when they first burst onto the scene. He's worried about his brand, which is nothing out of the ordinary. Anyone who understands business should come to understand and accept the way he goes about himself. Props for making a twitch life work, but it seems like such a hassle sometimes.

Serious talk, do you feel like you're chained to only a few games to be able to make money? Do you think you could expand to newer games anytime you wanted and would still have a successful night of donations/subs if you wanted? Ngamer and I were discussing this on the way to the lake house, would be curious to get your side.

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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2014, 01:43:54 am »
I honestly think Goldeneye is holding me back a bit.  I don't see more than 500-1000 MAX when grinding ILs; potentially 1000-2500 when doing full game runs.  Look at anyone who was "speedrunning" Dark Souls.  This one dude couldn't even complete a run at ESA but was getting 2-3k speedrunning the game.  If I speedran that game at a "World Record" level, with my quality of entertainment, I'm probably getting 5k+ viewers.  If I capitalize on the right game at the right time I can definitely see 4-5k+ viewers for a time.  Then if I ever go beyond speedrunning, who knows.  Maybe I'm not an entertaining casual gamer / LoL player / etc, maybe I am and it could get even bigger.  But yes, I feel confident that if I hop on the right game I can get Cosmo-Sig-like numbers of viewers.

This is why 'stay true' actually has started speaking to me, because I really haven't sold out, still grind the ILs, haven't thrown in Dark Souls to shittily "speedrun" and farm 3k viewers.
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2014, 02:21:04 am »
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Embrace the grind.

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2014, 03:20:27 am »
I leave you with this.


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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2014, 03:33:44 am »

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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2014, 04:02:22 am »
LOL I might use that as a twitch emote
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2014, 04:14:33 am »
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Re: *** WHO IS THE MOST DEGENERATE RUNNER IN GE HISTORY ***
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2014, 12:19:25 pm »
I can't believe that picture was taken only two months ago. You literally look 12.
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