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[DYM]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/821370242341474304

Unfortunately, the search has officially been suspended. 3 years ago I thought they would have found it within a couple of weeks or a month at most. Damn is this going to be one of the world's greatest unsolved mysteries and it's likely we may never find anything any closure to it.

[RWG]

You know I've said since probably June or July 2014 that it won't be found until a Jeff Bezos or James Cameron or other billionaire explorer is randomly taking a voyage in a submarine underneath Bouvet Island or some remote place and will just stumble upon the fuselage.  There is no other way it will be found.  THREE YEARS of searching the Indian Ocean and nothing.  The Oceans are just too massive to actually find anything by looking.  You have to find it by chance instead.

[Carathorn]

I'm actually surprised they haven't found it. They had a pretty good idea of where the plane should have touched the water, based on the pings the plane gave during its last hours of flight. Also the debris found on the islands pretty much confirmed they were searching in the right place.

I keep on wondering that maybe they searched in the right place, but the technology used didn't expose the plane. Guess we'll never know.

[DYM]

I'm actually surprised they haven't found it. They had a pretty good idea of where the plane should have touched the water, based on the pings the plane gave during its last hours of flight. Also the debris found on the islands pretty much confirmed they were searching in the right place.

I keep on wondering that maybe they searched in the right place, but the technology used didn't expose the plane. Guess we'll never know.

Huh? No they did not have a "pretty good idea of where the plane should have touched the water". What do you think the arc they determined was about 100 km long? Last time I checked their search locus was 120,000 square km. That's thrice the area of the country you live in, only it's a remote location with only water. The debris was located about 6,000 km from where they were searching on a completely different continent after being swivelled by ocean currents for almost 3 years.

[Carathorn]

So you're saying they had no clue and went on with a search operation that costed millions? Obviously these amounts of money need some kind of convincing theory about the location before it can begin. It's easy to say they had "no idea" now they cancelled the search.

Also the large area was mostly there because a plane doesn't necessarily have to sink where it touches the water.

[DYM]

No, I never said they had no clue. Read my post again. I was refuting your point they had a "good idea" of where the plane fell into the water. They only had some general idea of where it COULD have crashed and they obviously couldn't narrow it down to a small area. The Indian Ocean is HUGE. They just knew it was somewhere west of Perth but that patch of seawater and arc they determined and later scoured is massive, distant and it isn't easy to spot floating debris either. It would have been amazing, but not very likely for them to find it. Having said that I did expect them to find it eventually, but what do you expect when the search radius was so large and large ocean currents swayed the debris around? Made searching harder because it's not like the debris would be lying in the same place for 3 years. I thought some experts could have done some analysis to determine the most likely crash landing spot based on the debris they found in Africa, but even that appears to be very difficult. Also, a lot of the extra cost was because of bathymetry.

[Carathorn]

aha so its about GOOD IDEA vs GENERAL IDEA. This isn't worth debating Ace, we're better than this

Based on the handshakes the plane made with radar the actual area in which the plane could have crashed/hit the water is actually about 4x as large as the area they covered so far. The portion that was searched was only the portion in which theories told had the "highest chance" of finding it.

Eventhough the ocean is indeed huge, it's mindboggling that in this time we can land a robot on Mars but we can't find a plane on our own planet.

[DYM]

Yeah, it appears you only understood two phrases from my entire post.

Eventhough the ocean is indeed huge, it's mindboggling that in this time we can land a robot on Mars but we can't find a plane on our own planet.

At first glance you'd think so, but then you realize the ocean is difficult to map, harder to explore, there's more interest in space exploration, astronomy has been a thing for thousands of years, then space companies have billions of dollars in budget etc. It's unprecedented a 747 has been lost but when it's something bizarre like crashing in the middle of a totally unexplored ocean that occupies 14% of Earth (for comparison, USA is only 2%) and that too with the radars switched off, then it does make some sense. There really should be some backup GPS data for planes, and perhaps Happy Ace Airways will be the first to implement such a system in 2030.

[Carathorn]

Yeah, it appears you only understood two phrases from my entire post.

Hey now don't be too full of yourself, every sentence you write is easy to understand. Aren't you like 15 by now?

At first glance you'd think so, but then you realize the ocean is difficult to map, harder to explore, there's more interest in space exploration, astronomy has been a thing for thousands of years, then space companies have billions of dollars in budget etc. It's unprecedented a 747 has been lost but when it's something bizarre like crashing in the middle of a totally unexplored ocean that occupies 14% of Earth (for comparison, USA is only 2%) and that too with the radars switched off, then it does make some sense. There really should be some backup GPS data for planes, and perhaps Happy Ace Airways will be the first to implement such a system in 2030.

Ace, I totally get it. We all fully understand how the plane actually got lost and why it is so hard to find. Even with your explanation of facts it remains mind-boggling, because these facts ARE mind-boggling. For instance (prepare your ego!) just like it is mind-boggling how incredibly god-tier good you are at speedrunning GE and PD. Explaning in detail how you perfected your skills and presenting all the data about the hours you infested won't make some of the records less overwhelming to standard players either.

[DYM]

The real mind-boggling thing here is every subsequent post of yours being filled with extraneous bullshit. Your GoldenEye comparison might be one of the worst analogies I've ever come across, even though I somewhat get your point.

[Carathorn]

wtf suddenly childish explosion.

Please try to stay nice, like grownups do.

xoxo