Author Topic: Virginia Meet 2017: Mon Aug 7th - Sat Aug 12th [House FULL, hotel rooms needed]  (Read 11204 times)

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So now it all hinges on Abney :p
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Can we get the Excel sheet updated on who is for sure going, who has paid, staying onsite vs offsite etc?

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The sheet's up to date based on everything I've heard.  Only Third and Booth have bought tickets, the 30 on top are still locked in and expected to show up and everyone else is a maybe who can certainly plan to come (and stay offsite) or wait until there are enough dropouts from the top group to possibly free up space on site.
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Sounds good. Mine can be changed to 100% i just need to wait and see what others are doing to determine room. I posted about it earlier in this thread.
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I'm 99% in provided I am locked in to stay at the house, which seems to be the case based on what Jimbo is telling me and what I'm reading on here being in the top 30.

Originally I was planning on riding with Jimbo but atm I am starting to lean towards a shorter week flying in Wednesday instead. Hope to confirm this soon.

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I'm coming for a day if I carpool with Tyler Deel, which seems likely

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I am in, and the family is coming too. Wiff, wife, wiffster. Chatted with Mrs. W a while ago and she said that's ok. So yeah. See you you all there!

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Not sure who still in the top 30 hasn't 100% confirmed yet but if you are in the top 30 and haven't fully committed it'd be nice to know.
Sure some people might not know until much sooner but it goes both ways in that some people not in the top 30 (aka me) would also like to try and make plans accordingly.

I'll wait for the go ahead from someone more important than myself but I can Paypal immediately after being given the go ahead.
(Shame on those that wait until the week of and still have to be hounded to pay.)

I'd just prefer to know with more than a week or two notice. Work notice, store staffing, family notice etc.

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Summer has arrived and we're to the two month warning, need to get tickets and arrival times locked down from our fliers so we can start organizing pickups.  And also decisions from anyone still on the fence so we can figure out if we're still hard up against the cap, as Dan mentioned.

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Re: Virginia Meet 2017! (Mon Aug 7th - Sat Aug 12th)
« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2017, 03:42:05 am »
Paid in full!


But alas,

I DO require a ride from the airport; Richmond or Dulles. I won't book my flight until I know this is possible and when would be the best time. I'll co-ordinate as necessary.

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Summer has arrived and we're to the two month warning, need to get tickets and arrival times locked down from our fliers so we can start organizing pickups.  And also decisions from anyone still on the fence so we can figure out if we're still hard up against the cap, as Dan mentioned.

I will try and book tickets as soon as possible. Holding out for a good deal! (but the prices just seem to be going up at the moment)

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Re: Virginia Meet 2017! (Mon Aug 7th - Sat Aug 12th)
« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2017, 04:42:42 am »
I can offer rides to and from the airports. On my way to the meet BWI is only 5 minutes out of my way and Dulles is only 1 hour out of my way. Richmond would add another 2 hours and 30 minutes so I would prefer not to go there unless someone really needs the ride.

Paid in full!


But alas,

I DO require a ride from the airport; Richmond or Dulles. I won't book my flight until I know this is possible and when would be the best time. I'll co-ordinate as necessary.
I thought Dulles was closer but still better than Richmond

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Summer has arrived and we're to the two month warning, need to get tickets and arrival times locked down from our fliers so we can start organizing pickups.  And also decisions from anyone still on the fence so we can figure out if we're still hard up against the cap, as Dan mentioned.

I will try and book tickets as soon as possible. Holding out for a good deal! (but the prices just seem to be going up at the moment)

Same. I'm 100% though.

EDIT: Booked!

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« Last Edit: June 10, 2017, 08:46:12 am by PerfectTaste »
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Update:

I have not booked yet.

I will need a ride from Dulles to the VA house (same as Alec) (on monday the 7th)

Will be returning home on Saturday the 12th. Will book tickets within 2 weeks from now and will post the flight schedule here when I get it.

Update:

I have not booked yet.

I will need a ride from Dulles to the VA house (same as Alec) (on monday the 7th)

Will be returning home on Saturday the 12th. Will book tickets within 2 weeks from now and will post the flight schedule here when I get it.

JOSH, would you have enough room for both Eise and myself? If we can both book flights that arrive at the 1-3pm(ish) range, you can scoop us up at Dulles and we can all travel to the lake house together.

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I can make the room I'm bringing a lot but it should work out. Maybe I'll rent a SUV or van if it's not too much to rent

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Sounds excellent Joshua. I can pitch in for a van, no worries! :)

I will post itinerary as soon as I get it!

UPDATE: Money transfered to our hosts!

« Last Edit: June 10, 2017, 01:46:04 pm by Smit »

I'll also help pitch in for the larger vehicle if necessary (and reasonable  :kappa:)

Both Goose and Jim can attest that I'm good for it.  :nesquik:  :v

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I'll also help pitch in for the larger vehicle if necessary (and reasonable  :kappa:)

In the past, I've traveled with Drew to the lake house or taken a train to Fredericksburg and caught a ride from there. If Josh, or anyone else, is providing a reasonable transport from Dulles\D.C. I'm willing to join too.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2017, 02:07:51 am by PerfectTaste »
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I'm confirmed going now. Will send money soon.
If I book a flight is there a particular time I should try to land (Dulles right?) so that I'm there around the same time as a carpool group or something?

I'm confirmed going now. Will send money soon.
If I book a flight is there a particular time I should try to land (Dulles right?) so that I'm there around the same time as a carpool group or something?

Typically we try to arrive in early afternoon-early evening; Seems to be when everyone is able to scoop eachother up. Some of us are still trying to find carpool groups as well haha

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If I book a flight is there a particular time I should try to land (Dulles right?) so that I'm there around the same time as a carpool group or something?

We seem to have incoming flights to Dulles, Reagan, and Richmond almost every year.

General guidelines:

arriving Monday

It seems like there are often ride opportunities in the DC area at least as late in the day as 6pm.  Usually not much earlier than 4pm or so, since no one will even be at the lakehouse before then.  Sometimes there will be a carpool of riders waiting for one last person's flight.  If they need to wait until 11pm or something, they will, but if you have an option to get in before that, usually works out better.

Also, it seems like there are frequently delays on the inbound side with people coming from diverse locations.  One year Neo was delayed about 5 hours. Last year I think both people I was riding with were delayed at least an hour.

returning saturday

People flying out on Saturday tend to have flight times in the late afternoon or evening.  Think like, 3pm or later.  If you have to go earlier, someone will help you get there in time, but it can be inconvenient.  It takes at least 2 hours to drive to Dulles on Saturday due to consistently slow traffic.  So if you have an international flight out at noon, you're probably looking at leaving the lakehouse by 8am or something, which can be a pretty tough ask if everyone just stayed up until 4am Friday night.

There have been a few times when someone had an early morning flight out (like 6am) and got someone to drive them to the airport in the night before they went to sleep.  Depending on what kind of flights you can find, that could be an option as well.

Just find something that works for you and post it in this thread. Exact flight numbers can help for coordination. The information you list will be transferred to the spreadsheet to help form groups.  Usually a couple weeks out we look at who all is flying where and when, then match them up with drivers. Sometimes people come in a day early and hang out in DC, or leave a day late, etc. That works too.
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Awesome!  So if MR confirms as well, as it sounded like he would based on Beck's status, we'll have under one roof

#1 Matthias Rustemeyer
#2 Dan Burbank
#3 Beck Abney
#6 Zoran Tintor
#26 Frankie Morgan
#37 Kevin Booth
#50 Jake Walter
#64 Nate Stinson
#71 Kyle Begley
#77 Mark Jones

And possibly...
#25 Eddie Taylor

Plus former North American Multi Champs
Trent Hovis (2010)
Bryan Bosshardt (2012)
Eddie Lovins (2013)

Quite the collection of Kart talent!
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I just want to get there earlier than most so I can get a bottom bunk this year and not have Dennison con me out of it.  :kappa:

Also not wanting to book a flight 100% until I can coordinate a more exact time frame with Joshua/whoever can pick me up.

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Let's bring some more hype from a country far, far away :D. I've booked my flights and will travel oversea for the 1st time in my life to attend this special meet, so I'm twice as excited! I've already gotten general information about the procedure of arrival/departure, of course I need your help and space in a car to reach the famous lake house.

Here are my flight details (local eastern time):
ARRIVAL - Mon Aug 7 - 19:10 / 7.10 pm - IAD (Washington D.C. Dulles)
DEPART. - Sat Aug 12 - 20:35 / 8.35 pm - IAD

What's the traditional method to find each other quickly at the airport? Do we exchange phone numbers? Take care of someone who hasn't gone by plane for a decade :p.

See you in Virginia!

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Awesome MR!

Given the apparent small number of drivers this year (Drew, Jim, Josh, Deel, QB?), does anyone have any idea how many CRTs will be there that week?

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Looks like I'll have to rent a large van lol
Would also be good if I could get a number of crts I will need to bring.

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Alright sounds like Austin has had to drop out, with that we're able to upgraded Dan Edeen to LOCKED status.

Any truth to the rumor that Tyler Deel will also not be able to make it for the whole week anymore, and is more likely to just stop by for a day, like Qwec?

If that's the case, and if Lovins and Woll are planning to arrive on Wednesday as Jones has reported, then we'd be at 27 Eliters planning to be there for the full week (or 26 if PY can't make it), which would work out pretty well (original cap was for 25).
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Yeah Qwec and I live close to another and we'll probably be there for a day or two (I was just going to pitch a tent or something for a night so the house wouldn't be overcrowded)

I'll try and nail down which days specifically with Qwec here so if anybody needs rides from airports those days we can come scoop ya.

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I'm likely in if a spot opens up for me and likely out if it doesn't.  Figuring out rides gonna be a mess :/.

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If there are any last minute cancellations, I'd like to try to get a spot at the house if possible.
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Sorry I've been a ghost lately, but I just got my time off from work approved today, so I am going!

I will book my flight within the next week or so. My plan is to fly into Richmond Monday afternoon and fly out of Richmond Saturday afternoon.

Unless there are any objections, I will gladly take up stream duties again this year. Sadly, the laptop that I had used to run the stream since 2012 is no longer capable, so I will be getting a new one in the coming weeks. I think the setup we had last year with the names/scores on stream auto-updating from the Google doc worked pretty well. Assuming I can get the code I wrote last year to work on my new laptop, we can set it up the same way this year. However, I'm open to suggestions on how to make the stream better.

Also, having backup stream equipment (splitters, cables, capture cards, etc.) at the house would be good. Last year I forgot to bring my powered splitter and coincidentally the power cable for Drew's splitter (which we had used every year until then) was missing, so we had to rely on backups. So if you have extra room in your luggage, consider bringing along some streaming equipment.
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I updated the sheet to reflect all of the recent posts.

so we had to rely on backups Alec's unselfish and giving nature to ensure we had splitters to power the stream for the week. So if you have extra room in your luggage, consider bringing along some streaming equipment.

 :nesquik:


I updated the sheet to reflect all of the recent posts.

I also paid my $150 USD

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Flight is booked and fee is paid. I'm landing at 7 PM Wednesday at Reagan and Greg is picking me up so I imagine we'll be arriving no later than 10 PM.

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Whoever checks payments to the Weathertons, I've sent $150 via Paypal last week (Drew already knows).

My flights are Icelandair 645 on Monday and Icelandair 644 on Saturday by the way, times are correct in the sheet.
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Where do you send the money via PayPal?

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I just booked my flight. I will be arriving at IAD at 3 PM on Thursday August 10. Virigin America #0108.

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My flight is booked and my fee is paid.

I'm arriving in Richmond at 5:00pm Monday 7th and leaving from Richmond at 5:30pm on Saturday 12th.

Also got my new laptop 2 days ago  :pimp:
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I'm fortunate enough to really get any days off I need, I was going to come on the final day, but instead if I can pitch a tent or something (if space/plumbing is a factor) and stay like wed or thurs through saturday I'd like to do that.
If that's okay, I just need to know where to pay and I'm there.
Again, I can provide a ride to/from BWI/Dulles to anybody that needs it.

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I'm fortunate enough to really get any days off I need, I was going to come on the final day, but instead if I can pitch a tent or something (if space/plumbing is a factor) and stay like wed or thurs through saturday I'd like to do that.
If that's okay, I just need to know where to pay and I'm there.
Again, I can provide a ride to/from BWI/Dulles to anybody that needs it.



I know that Frankie and his wife camped last year. Does anyone know which campgrounds he stayed at?
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To clarify: the Weathertons will NOT allow anyone to camp on their lawn.  However there's a public campsite nearby that could be used; I believe this is the one Frankie stayed at last year.

http://www.shenandoahvalleyweb.com/rockybranch/index.html

Alternatively you could stay at a nearby hotel, as Hutch and Liz have in past years.  Maybe this is the closest one? (not quite sure)  429 Cooke Ln, Bumpass, VA 23024

It would probably be a good idea for anyone not in the top 30 on the sheet who would still like to attend to look into one of those two options, as I don't think any more spots at the house will be opening up.  (It's still possible PY won't be able to attend but I don't think we'll know for sure until at least a couple weeks from now.)
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I've searched around a lot for rentin g a van or SUV and the cheapest I could find was around $350. I really don't feel like spending that much just to bring extra crts so I was thinking that I could just arrive at va earlier to drop a lot of the stuff off then head back to pick up Eise and Alec and others if needed. Then since ragequit will be there the last day if he could give rides back to the airport then I'll only be making one extra trip.

I've searched around a lot for renting a van or SUV and the cheapest I could find was around $350. I really don't feel like spending that much just to bring extra crts so I was thinking that I could just arrive at va earlier to drop a lot of the stuff off then head back to pick up Eise and Alec and others if needed. Then since ragequit will be there the last day if he could give rides back to the airport then I'll only be making one extra trip.

Man, that's 6 hours+ of driving.   :(

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Well it would add about 3 and a half hours of driving so it would be about 8 hours of driving all together which isn't too bad I wouldn't mind :) but a van would be easier but more expensive

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FLIGHT BOOKED!


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Hey Smit,
I'll also be at Frankfurt Airport but probably after you'll have checked in, my flight is at 2 pm on Monday.

I still need a spot in someone's car to ride from Washington D.C. to the lake house, I'll arrive at Dulles Airport about the same time like Third, scheduled at 7.10 pm.
I've heard that most people leave around noon on Saturday, my return flight is at 8.35 pm so I would take the latest trip to IAD depending on the drivers' plans of course.
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There are a few things I've been thinking about lately regarding the attendance policies for the VA meet:

1. I really think we need to consider implementing a policy that reconsiders the attendance of significant others, spouses and other family members (children, etc.). My primary concern is that as we continue to age this issue will only continue to get worse and will likely get to a point that is unsustainable or accelerate us to an already inevitable point of unsustainability (as interest in attending the meet continues to grow over time). I know that we've had several instances of non-eliters/karters attending throughout the years, and that this year is not a novel situation. The real issue here is that we are essentially invading the Weatherton's home for a week. They have gone above and beyond any reasonable measure of expectation in their generosity, grace and patience in hosting us. They've communicated, with key members of our community, the need for capping the maximum amount of attendees due to various logistical constraints on their home (# of beds, septic concerns, etc.). This has meant, and will continue to mean, having to turn people away who are interested in attending the meet and I'm not sure it is fair to deny someone who is a part of the community the chance to attend simply because someone else has decided to bring other people with them. I look at this year's Google Sheet and see that in addition to the cap of 30 people, we have an another 10 people who want to come and/or will be forced into offsite accommodations, and that does not include the 3 other people (spouses and children) not currently listed on the sheet who are seemingly planning to attend. At what point do the Weatherton's just say "enough is enough, you've outgrown us" and decide to shut things down? Even though I would hate to see that happen, I wouldn't be terribly surprised about it. If the potential long term sustainability of this is important to you (even if it's not, there may be others who do), then this is something you need to give careful consideration to.

To be clear, this is not a personal judgment of anyone in particular or directed at anyone specifically and I'm sorry if anyone is offended by this (that is really not my intent). As a husband and father, I'm keenly sensitive to any sort of judgment or criticism directed at my family. This is purely commentary on what I perceive to be a looming logistical challenge regarding the long-term sustainability of this event.

2. I think we also need a defined set of rules governing who is secured a spot in the "top 30" for cap space. It's been disheartening to see people express interest in attending but then not be given the chance to attend due to being locked out of a secured spot inside the cap space. Much like point #1 above, I think this will only continue to get worse over time and I think having a well defined set of rules will go along way to making sure that everyone feels they are being treated fairly. To be more specific, having someone like duff show up out of nowhere with no communication, while potentially amusing, isn't fair to someone who's been communicating and working with the group for several month. Similarly, having someone like Clemens added at the last minute, while other people have been expressing interest for several months, doesn't seem quite fair. Finally, I think we should implement some sort of commitment date (via flight/travel/payment confirmation) so that we avoid situations like PYL this year who won't know until ~3 weeks prior to the event whether or not they can attend. If a situation like that occurs and that person is unable to attend, someone on the "waiting list" may not have enough time to make travel/work arrangements.