[POLL] Best Video Submission Process Improvement?

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Things to remember (as of proof policy 2.0):

1. All proof requiring times do not officially count until proof is shown
2. Proof of date must be proven to credit the claimed date of achievement

Considering this, our current system is pretty outdated imo. When you post a time on the rankings, it actually doesn't mean shit anymore. The time of day/date you post is irrel because the date of your video is the only thing that can prove the date. Your claim of getting the time at all is irrel because it doesn't count unless you post the proof. This is why I think we should make a change of SOME kind. A change like some of those in this poll could make the PR post on the rankings more accurate to when you actually had proof and generally meaningful again. People seem to generally support a change but maybe we need to discuss more to find out which one is best for us. As previously stated, I still support just making videos required for simplicity among other things.

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Another thing to consider:

A large panel of people to verify runs means that your run will get verified VERY FAST.

A proof mod only verification means your run could be not verified for almost an entire day, which could matter a lot depending on if the run is posted flagged or not posted until its verified. But proof mods also specialize in this.

[deletedprofile.u]

Proof calls would still be written for instantly linked videos. Any link can be linked and poor quality proof may be linked. That wouldn't change.

[Grav]

yea but there would be no need to make it monthly, you just proof call anything that needs it asap

[DYM]

The first of the enlisted options is established in the policy. Ace gets Train Agent 0:57 offline because he's a degenerate who makes excuses for streaming. Because the time is so prestigious, he wants the first publicly viewable footage to be some sort of directors cut masterpiece with commentary. This, however, takes 2 days. Because he wants to enjoy the satisfaction of seeing his time on the rankings, he posts a temporary link to his Pelagic II SA 1:37, with the first few seconds of the video being 'TRAIN 57 VIDEO WILL BE UP IN 2 DAYS, PLEASE BE PATIENT. IN THE MEANTIME WATCH THIS GOD RUN'. The mods do not find this funny and instantly remove the time. Ace proceeds to act like a petulant child, vilifying Grav and the council, etc.

I don't like the idea of requiring verification for a time to be up, even if it's a simple solution.  '60+ Runs with no video are posted but are flagged as unverified on the site. Verified by a large panel' sounds good to me.

[falzy211]

I would say either 3 or 4 is pretty good, pick which is easier.  I am a total novice to the elite though.

[vitorr]

Keep in mind that this large panel thing is more complex in terms of implementation (so it will take longer), and also it's going to need some adjustments here and there when it goes live. Personally speaking I'm going to be completely fucked at work for the next few months so I can't really help unless it's with small features development. Throwing this here because I always put myself as "available" to these kind of things but not this time 

But anyway, I like the large panel idea specially if we track all the verifications (date/time, who did it) and show a "Verified" flag or something in the time page (maybe in the stage times list too, not sure). We should also be able to undo/remove a verification in case someone wrongly verify a video (missclick and shit like that). And maybe it's a good idea to save in each verification the URL of the youtube/twitch video that was verified, in case the player updates the video URL (which is pretty common). AND regarding the URLs I also think it's reasonable to have two video URLs, one as raw as possible (for proof) and one edited in case the player wants to, and the player could choose which video should be shown by default (gets rid of the "Raw: http://..." in the comments).

The queue is cool as long as we have enough people to verify (a simple notification system would be useful too), which is the case here I think. But at the same time I personally like to post the time and check the feed immediately. Both options are fine but I will go with the queue one. 

[vitorr]

Regardless of what's chosen, PLEASE write exactly how things should be done (adding screenshots and details for every part), so then we can create an issue on Gitlab and discuss the technical matters.

[Deuceler]

Voted, think some sort of proof verification is a good idea