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January 2018 Proof Call
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:58:39 pm »
Times that say NEEDS PROOF need videos up by March 1st or they will be backrolled.
Also included are the point values, and whether the time was a TWR or UWR when listed time was achieved.

Aaron Budwal
Agent RTA 23:49 [RE-TIMED;LATE END SPLIT] - PROVEN

Aaron Scott
Runway Secret Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Streets Agent 1:13 (68 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 66

Abdulah Cuplov
Dam Agent 0:53 (97 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Frigate Agent 0:25 (58 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Facility Agent 0:46 (58 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Runway Agent 0:23 (3 points) - NEEDS PROOF

Andrew Wash
Cradle Agent 0:34 (TWR) - PROVEN
Cradle Secret Agent 0:34 (TWR) - PROVEN
Cradle 00 Agent 0:34 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 140

Archie Bauer
Agent RTA 29:42 [RE-TIMED; LATE END SPLIT] - PROVEN - (From December 2017) Oops!

Austin H.
Frigate 00 Agent 1:13 (68 points) - PROVEN
Frigate Secret Agent 1:06 (67 points) - PROVEN
Depot 00 Agent 0:50 (71 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 155

Austin Perroux
Jungle 00 Agent 1:07 (48 points) [Time deleted by user]
Jungle 00 Agent 1:08 (42 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Jungle Secret Agent 1:01 (51 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Surface 1 00 Agent 1:51 (59 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Surface 1 Secret Agent 1:51 (55 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Statue Agent 2:22 (49 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Statue Secret Agent 2:21 (54 points) [Time deleted by user]
Statue 00 Agent 2:21 (52 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:25 (56 points) - NEEDS PROOF
Surface 2 Agent 0:48 (48 points) [December 2017] - NEEDS PROOF

Brent McGarvey
Dam Secret Agent 1:19 (72 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Agent 0:47 (TWR) - PROVEN
Caverns Agent 1:02 (87 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 223

Charlie Yeudall
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:56 (63 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 159

Chris Leon
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 93

Dan Parker
Caverns Secret Agent 1:14 (95 points) - PROVEN
Control Secret Agent 4:06 (94 points) - PROVEN
Facility Secret Agent 0:52 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 13

David Gonzales
Surface 2 Agent 0:47 (TWR) - PROVEN
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 196

Drew Ackermann
Agent RTA 26:45 [RE-TIMED; LATE END SPLIT] - PROVEN
Secret Agent RTA 41:42 [RE-TIMED; DELAYED START TIMER] - NEEDS PROOF - Horrendous and exponential audio delay

Eric Bergmann
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (80 points) - PROVEN
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 174

Erik H.
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 100

Greg Larkin
Cradle Secret Agent 0:35 (74 points) - PROVEN
Depot 00 Agent 0:51 (67 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 46

Gus Riolo
Statue 00 Agent 2:19 (90 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 37

Harry Coupe
Surface 2 Agent 0:47 (TWR) - PROVEN
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 149

Hayden King
Silo Agent 1:05 (66 points) - PROVEN
Frigate Secret Agent 1:05 (73 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:56 (62 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 165

Henrik Norgren
Train 00 Agent 1:48 (Untied!) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 5

Irie Butler
Streets Agent 1:12 (90 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:24 (71 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 34

Jim Barrett
Silo Agent 1:02 (88 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 5

Jonathan Hauptman
Depot Agent 0:25 (60 points) - PROVEN
Surface 1 Agent 1:02 (TWR) - PROVEN
Train Agent 1:07 (67 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:56 (62 points) - PROVEN
Frigate Agent 0:23 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 134

Joris Quevedo
Bunker 1 00 Agent 1:10 (64 points) - NEEDS PROOF - Provide proof with passable audio

Josh Schwarz
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (80 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 80

Karl Jobst
Depot Agent 0:23 (TWR) - PROVEN
Egypt 00 Agent 0:45 (TWR) - PROVEN
Egypt Secret Agent 0:45 (TWR) - PROVEN
Cradle 00 Agent 0:34 (TWR) - PROVEN
Facility Secret Agent 0:52 (TWR) - PROVEN
Facility Agent 0:43 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 72

Kevin Birrell
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (81 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 172

Lance Mudryk
Surface 1 Agent 1:03 (63 points) - PROVEN
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (81 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 123

Matthew Burden
Aztec Agent 1:35 (61 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:24 (71 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 35

Matthew Solly
Dam Agent 0:53 (97 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 97

Michael Willig
Bunker 1 Agent 0:17 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 100

Mike McEnery
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (80 points) - PROVEN
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 175

Mike Mint
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (80 points) - PROVEN
Runway Agent 0:22 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 172

Oscar Pleininger
Aztec Agent 1:29 (76 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 7

Randy Chapman
Egypt 00 Agent 0:47 (76 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 2 Agent 0:24 (93 points) - PROVEN
Egypt Secret Agent 0:48 (66 points) - PROVEN
Surface 1 Agent 1:03 (64 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 148

Rich Noe
Dam 00 Agent 2:00 (80 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 10

Ryan Gibbs
Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:22 (93 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:47 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 193

Sam Rodrigues
Depot Secret Agent 0:39 (TWR) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 3

Scott Berger
Bunker 2 00 Agent 1:08 (62 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:51 (77 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 24

Stefan Bangen
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (81 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 81

Terrance Collins
Runway 00 Agent 0:39 (69 points) - PROVEN
Runway Secret Agent 0:23 (80 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 149

Tyler Deel
Depot 00 Agent 0:49 (82 points) - PROVEN
Caverns Agent 1:01 (TWR) - PROVEN
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:53 (61 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 40

Vitor Miranda
Bunker 2 Secret Agent 0:52 (63 points) - PROVEN
Bunker 2 Agent 0:24 (93 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 00 Agent 1:35 (63 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Secret Agent 0:56 (63 points) - PROVEN
Aztec Secret Agent 1:39 (82 points) - PROVEN
Aztec Agent 1:29 (76 points) - PROVEN
Surface 2 Agent 0:47 (TWR) - PROVEN
Aztec 00 Agent 1:50 (75 points) - PROVEN
Total Points Gained: 286

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Backrolled from December's call:
Cameron Heiniger's Jungle Agent 0:53 was backrolled to 0:54.  :(

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31 TWRs achieved last month!
1 UWR achieved last month!

This month's Player Of The Month is awarded to Vitor Miranda with 286 points gained last month!
This month's Outstanding Player is awarded to Karl Jobst who achieved 6 TWR(s) last month!
This month's Greatest Contributor is awarded to Henrik Norgren who achieved 1 UWR last month!
This month's Dunce Of The Month is awarded to Austin Perroux!! Keep up the GREAT proof standards, mate!  :nesquik:
« Last Edit: February 05, 2018, 11:35:01 am by Alec M. »
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 12:19:25 am »
GE LTK

Charlie Yeudall
Surface 2 LTK 1:30 (TWR) - PROVEN

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 12:25:30 am »
Look, this time is still up, has no video, and hasn't been proofcalled in this call.

https://rankings.the-elite.net/~Swompz/time/78905

What's the deal? Surely this can't stay for another entire month.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 12:49:25 am »
Look, this time is still up, has no video, and hasn't been proofcalled in this call.

https://rankings.the-elite.net/~Swompz/time/78905

What's the deal? Surely this can't stay for another entire month.

Video is saved, it'll get re-uploaded.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 12:56:02 am »
wow impatient :kappa:

re-uploaded it now
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 12:06:16 pm »
Relax. I said we're working on it. Life happens. The reason it wasn't proof called in this call is because dsx and I were PM-ing each other to get it sorted.

Indeed, you did.  But that was in last month's topic. Then this one rolled around and there was no mention at all.

Everyone has to remember that even if the Proof Call post looks all shiny and official and nice, it may still be missing important information. By not listing a known-missing video, that posting could have easily fallen through the cracks, leading to a minor controversy months or years later.

I'm not afraid of being called out as impatient or reckless, we're talking about the integrity of the rankings here.  But by calling me names instead of saying thank you, you've discouraged others from speaking up in the future.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 12:27:27 pm »
pls review Joris 1:10, it has no in game audio

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 01:22:32 pm »
I just want to say that Scott is one of the-elite's most underrated members; extremely helpful, smart, one of the most unbiased and nicest eliters. He has assisted me on numerous occasions in the past and you can always tell that he'll reply, act and eventually sort things out. In my opinion the most important member who isn't himself ranked in GE/PD.

The guy only gets a fraction of credit of what he actually deserves. Being unranked and all, he actually brought up something proof/video-specifically important that frankly anyone but him should do and gets a ":kappa:" for an answer.

Then again members here have never really been particularly grateful to others. It's sadly been a recurring theme in this community.

So thank you Scott, and thanks to Alec, Jonathan and Kyle for being very dedicated and hard working Proof Mods/Board Moderators/Council Members! You would all be immensely missed if you retired.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 01:39:47 pm »
That's very kind of you to say but to be totally fair I must point out that I used a moderately antagonistic tone in my initial post here, mostly in the common style for this forum.  By initiating the discussion with a less aggressive post, the response may have been different.  But as you noted, many posters here are somewhat bold -- if you always respond kindly, you can defuse many potentially nasty situations before they grow.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 03:26:03 pm »
i guess re-uploads/missing videos for previously called times its not something we've ever really covered in our proof calls. but anyways i agree and from now on i'll include this kind of info in my calls and maybe alec will too. just to note, ive almost restored jezz's entire timespage and ive restored all four of swompz's 60pt+ times for the moment and will continue to restore missing videos.

p.s. i will also add that scott does good work here and is easy to get along with :)
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2018, 03:54:11 pm »
pls review Joris 1:10, it has no in game audio

AND https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=22307.0

As self-proclaimed Vice President of GoldenEye 007 speedrunning, I am demanding proof of at least 3 of the following records you have posted this year:

27 January 2018: Jungle   - 00A   - 1:07
26 January 2018: Jungle   - SA   - 1:01
26 January 2018: Surface 1   - 00A   - 1:51
25 January 2018: Surface 1   - SA   - 1:51
21 January 2018: Statue   - A   - 2:22
21 January 2018: Statue   - SA   - 2:21
20 January 2018: Statue   - 00A   - 2:21
11 January 2018: Bunker 1   - SA   - 0:25

Sure it's not time to proof-call them nor are any of them 60+ pointers, but MANY of them are on the edge, such as S1 00A 1:51 being worth 59 points. I have a suspicious feeling that these are fake records being posted to the rankings. Furthermore, It is extremely unusual that you would stream a 2 hour session of DAH!, end stream and post a GoldenEye record 5 minutes later only to stream DAH! again. You also cannot be trusted as you have posted fake records in the past.

You have until February 5th, 2018 to prove at least 3 of the aforementioned times, 2 of which MUST be on different levels. An alternative is to improve at least two records, both of which must be on different levels, live on stream. Failure to do so will result in severe consequences, including your dismissal from AceCorp, Inc & position as Trivia host. Look, you might not be able to post Streets 1:11, but that doesn't mean the rankings is your personal playground where you can claim a bunch of other times without any video evidence.

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2018, 06:46:00 pm »
You're right, Scott. I apologise for responding negatively like I did. Taking out a poor day on you isn't very fair, for any of us. I appreciate that you brought it up; Honestly, I think I'm just subconsciously afraid to make mistakes in this position, because I know a bunch of community members would love any reason to oust me instead of support me doing this, and I do enjoy doing this for a bunch of reasons.
You would all be immensely missed if you retired.

I dunno about that.  :kappa:  :tired:


Also, I didn't choose to aesthetically improve the proof call to hide behind it, I improved it simply because it looks a LOT better, and may encourage more people to read it. I enjoy the process of making the post after doing all the watching/information-gathering over the course of the month. Ace creating an application that gathers info of 60+ pointers and does automatic hyperlinking is a HUGE time save at the end of the month too (yes, I do still keep updated with new players and RTA times :v ).

As for Joris' 1:10, seeing mw's post there made me react like "I SWEAR it had audio when I watched it", but I may have watched it on mute by accident on another platform not even realising. I try to be very astute and analytical when reviewing videos; clearly this one made it past me.
This raises another thing I've been considering; Joris' timespage. While I know 60+ is the barrier, the habits in which he posts his times and times with videos is highly infuriating as a rankings moderator and supporter of integrity. At first I thought it was a troll account: a good player's alt. His game play sometimes looks like a good player playing poorer on purpose. I was unsure, so I did an IP search and examined his profile a bit closer and find it to be legitimate. This month he had posted a Depot Agent 0:26 which is currently still worth 52 points, and I'm adding it to February's call. I've considered calling most or all of his other point-worthy times but at this point I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. In my opinion, there are simply too many points unproven. If anyone disagrees with me I'd like to start a conversation on this.

As for Austin's situation here, my lack of impartiality towards Ace and his forum posts lately caused me to see past that particular post and ignore it; that's a mistake on my part. I intend to do better in the future. I had missed this trend of Austin posting unproven (semi-beefy) times and I'm thankful that Ace and the community at large are also watching such trends as they occur. This is valuable stuff. I have retroactively added each of these times to January's proof call:

27 January 2018: Jungle 00 Agent 1:07
26 January 2018: Jungle Secret Agent 1:01
26 January 2018: Surface 1 00 Agent 1:51
25 January 2018: Surface 1 Secret Agent   1:51
21 January 2018: Statue Agent 2:22
21 January 2018: Statue Secret Agent 2:21
20 January 2018: Statue 00 Agent 2:21
11 January 2018: Bunker 1 Secret Agent 0:25

Also that Ace took this into his own hands shows great initiative (while also being a bit troll since this terms weren't parallel to the-elite's proof policy, but we'll see past that  :v  :p )

Cheers, folks
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 07:04:37 pm by Alec M. »
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 02:12:32 am »
jezz's timespages have now been fully restored

working on swompz's page next
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 04:26:45 am »
Cheers dsx, you're doing great work here! :pimp:

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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 11:21:19 pm »
Glen Stevens' Dam 53 video disappeared for some reason, I restored it today.
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Re: January 2018 Proof Call
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2018, 10:29:37 am »
Glen Stevens' Dam 53 video disappeared for some reason, I restored it today.

gj jono  :D