Author Topic: The Perfect Dark SpeedLore Series : Episode 1 (Defection PA - Lucid Dreams)  (Read 1513 times)

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Many people have been waiting, praying, begging for the day of Perfect Dark SpeedLore.  And my friends, that day draws more and more near with every setting of the sun.

SpeedLore has proven to be a highly popular and critically acclaimed series about Goldeneye Speedrunning history, telling the stories about where we came from, the men who achieved greatness, and how we got to where we are today; and it's about time we start doing the same for Perfect Dark.

For a long while, we've planned the first episode to be on Defection Perfect Agent (Lucid Dreams.)  Karl has been doing diligent research on the topic, as he will co-host PD SpeedLore with me, but I wanted to make this thread to announce that PD SpeedLore is coming so that anyone can throw out any information they have about whatever level we are featuring.



So what are some stories that we need to talk about for Defection PA?  Any details?  (I don't know the full story about Sucram claiming 1:23 and then getting banned for instance.)  Anyone remember any specific details about Denis Lucid?  Anything that has to do with Defection PA is welcome information!

Thank you and we hope to be able to bring this episode to you all soon.
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Thanks for making the topic dude.
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The hype is real. Don't know much about PD history as I do GE, so definitely excited to hear some history from both of you.  :nesquik:
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wow amazing stuff looking forward into it. No one ever seen Lucid face but this is so accurate of what i imagined in my head wtf

lucid was a fucking ghost. Poppin here and there with new strats banking crazy untieds

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Came across this ancient PD guide from Paragon, this page has the Def PA guide for the world record strat in like 2000. Don't know if this is of any use but I think it would outline the process the players had back in the day. Might also be useful if there's not many videos available.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010413232035/http://www10.ewebcity.com/nfocus/guides/pd/sm/11s.html
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Karl has been doing diligent research on the topic

so what kind of information is still missing/needed for the episode?


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Claim/removal of sucram and any cool lucid threads would be good.
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I think it's important in Denis Lucid's character development that he first started with Defense Perfect Agent and was way ahead of his time when he got 1:37 in 2009, which is still 94 points today 9 years later, and now with a plethora of new strats in existence. After he got spooked off, it wasn't until nearly 2 years later that he randomly came back with his shiny Defection PA untied. It really adds to his mysterious personality. He is arguably the only player in modern history who was able to show up from outside the community with an untied, unlike what lurkers suggest where you never know who could be out there with some insane strats/skill. It builds off of "Bozon's Secret Knowledge" in that way.

Very excited to see this episode drop!

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Found an eerie forum post about actual Lucid Dreams, 7 years before Lucid joined. Could add to Lucid's character.

https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=11105.msg149180#msg149180
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« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 05:07:05 pm by Alka Maass »

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Apparently 1:23 was removed for some amount of time (at most a couple of months) and was reinstated in April 2002.

https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=6567.msg123564#msg123564
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My 2 very small cents about the Lucid story:

He basically was discovered by the community because I found his CI 1:37 on youtube and posted about it in the WR topic (#744). After that, others made contact with him. Seems it was posted with my previous forum account.

Looking forward to the speedlore of PD, thanks Goose and Karl.

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pumped for this!!

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Awesome guys, keen af for this :D

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I kinda think the Sucram 123 story is far more rel than the Lucid story for this level. It was a huge deal for many years before being taken down. Now that I watched the 128 back again (lol delayed sound), he definitely did know what he was doing for so long ago and could have possibly done the time given how he was playing the level.

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my dick just got hard
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Does anyone know if slayerrocket had any vids of his times?  Especially Defection PA?  Any insight on this gentleman?
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https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=650.msg177466#msg177466

According to him his videos were never posted online, but he did send a tape to Zeebo.

https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=8274.msg140469#msg140469

This thread lists Zeebo's video collection (as of three months after receiving this tape), and while he did have a copy of Sucram's 128, he doesn't list Slayer's 126
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Here's the Def PA strat development through a long convo with Icy starting a week ago. He was seeing the strat develop even before I got any WRs with it. I found another potential time saver just earlier today which is briefly mentioned at the end of this.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQk-Ia4LcDIJBitxBXkV-h8wSVwY1s76hQWPcoYqyeN2Cl2pmsjxKisMl-FRqV6Ms9ZcKNOdl6yVqkH/pub

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I found this directory while poking around. I REALLY hope we get to see the masterpiece that is Illu's 123 analysis.

http://thengamer.com/PD/01-Defection/
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