Surface 1 Agent 1:01

[Fabio119]

I got yoinked from the discord, thank god y'all have forums. I was wondering if there exists a TAS of surface 1 Agent 1:01. It seems like a very possible untied and I would like to go for it. Any knowledgeable players who have any advice would be appreciated. I don't know how to get an accurate estimate of world record 1:02 runs so idk if it's low or high 1:02's. Trying to theory craft with people on how to lower the time and optimize the run further.

[Yendis]

1:01 will require a low lag 12-14 bullet lock with manual 2.X where you use the crouch trick in the hole. If you watch Grav's 1:02 that's about the lock speed you need together with really sick pace.

There are tool assisted speedruns of S1 A, but they use tas only strats.

Did you forget about dam 52 

[Fabio119]

After I got :53 I decided to explore the rest of the game with the plan of going back for it later.

Irie suggested going for a S1 A 1:01 instead for the sick untied and really, that sounds way more lit. seems like a less luck based stage too but still has what I found fun about Dam.

Where would I be able to find videos of 1:01's, even if it's TAS?

Also, if you could define a crouch trick and what would be required for a low lag lockshot, i'd love you long time <3

[Time was untied when set.]

I have some tips for runway 21 if you want them but I will charge 1000000 USD

[KevinDDR]

At the risk of sounding rude I would just suggest you find a better way to spend your time. I can 100% guarantee (willing to bet $1-5000) that you won't get it within the next year or two. If you don't already know the intricacies of low lag locks, the crouch ending, and have ClemMovement you have literally no chance of getting the time. There are many more enjoyable things to do in GE; don't literally waste two years of your life because you are stubborn and unable to understand why presuming you have some magical ability that others don't (many have tried for this time as well as Dam 52) comes off as not only pretentious but also just disrespectful to players who are vastly more experienced and knowledgeable, all of whom are telling you to reconsider.

[Depotnoir]

At the risk of sounding rude I would just suggest you find a better way to spend your time. I can 100% guarantee (willing to bet $1-5000) that you won't get it within the next year or two. If you don't already know the intricacies of low lag locks, the crouch ending, and have ClemMovement you have literally no chance of getting the time. There are many more enjoyable things to do in GE; don't literally waste two years of your life because you are stubborn and unable to understand why presuming you have some magical ability that others don't (many have tried for this time as well as Dam 52) comes off as not only pretentious but also just disrespectful to players who are vastly more experienced and knowledgeable, all of whom are telling you to reconsider.

Wot

I can tell you who actually sounds pretentious and disrespectful here...

[KevinDDR]

Wasting hundreds of hours of your life on a time that you have literally no chance of getting (nor does anyone else more or less) instead of learning the game and getting to a point where you might actually have a chance is not something I'd wish on anybody. Just trying to prevent more burnout.

[Depotnoir]

Wasting hundreds of hours of your life on a time that you have literally no chance of getting (nor does anyone else more or less) instead of learning the game and getting to a point where you might actually have a chance is not something I'd wish on anybody. Just trying to prevent more burnout.

Completely agree with this sentiment, take issue with the high and mighty attitude that it's disrespectful to go for a record that top players think you're incapable of getting though

[Fabio119]

Exactly what depot said. *This next part is completely my own speaking (obviously) and not depot's. Figured i'd add this to avoid confusion seeing as I mentioned him and then said this*

 I didn't ask for your opinions or your pessimism. If the top players have a problem with me setting high goals or trying to go for times most plebs view as "impossible" (which I doubt they would) then they can hit my line or go fuck themselves too lol. If you aren't going to assist me in my quest as I would with you if I had information you wanted/needed, then maybe you should look at yourself and reevaluate how you spend your own time.

[MadmanFlechr]

True Haters do their research first @ www.google.com                                             

[KevinDDR]

I'm definitely not saying at all that the act of going for a time is disrespectful. I myself did something similarly stupid in playing for AF1 117 (which I should point out is a far weaker time and still took 400 hours after having played PD for a year). If you get it then even more props to you, but I think you should consider why you were banned from the Discord server before jumping on to the forums and asking the same questions that's already been answered by knowledgeable players (who are also in the Discord) whose advice you seem to continue to ignore.

[Irie]

Here is exactly how Surface 1 agent 1:01 will be achieved, so listen up and take some notes.


1. Start the level in left strafe, in full lookup, and with the sniper butt out. Have ammo turned off screen and watch 4 frames more of the first cutscene than the 1:02s do to lure a boost. Don't use cruise control, do use 2.x.
2. Count the clouds to 5 then start your turns hugging the treeline.
3. Slap the guard as you switch to right strafe and return immediately to full lookup.
4. Take out your kf7 to save 1 frame per 150 frames.
5. Switch to left strafe as you open and get through the double doors.
6. Do the Calle hut in left strafe, switching to right strafe after console press.
7. Close the door on your way back out of the hut.
8. Look straight up like rutzou when you leave the sat hut, and switch to the sniper butt at the treeline.
9. Go to straight lookdown once you reach the treeline and cut a tight line to the ladder.
10. Press A twice to switch from sniper butt to kf7 as early as you can to do the sickest warp, aiming to land a little to the left of the bottom lock.
11. Hold Z as you finish warping, then casually take out all 4 locks with only 12 bullets, approximately one lock per kf7 burst.
12. Hold left strafe as you finish the bottom lock, and crouch immediately to save essential frames.
13. Reveal a 1:02 dupe and try again.
14. Realize you didn't even get a guard boost upon rewatching the footage and get keen bro!

Good luck! I've just mapped out everything that you need so no more research needed just start practicing those 12 shot locks and eventually try to clutch it after a 1 in 1,000 guard boost!
This is a way better time to go for than dam 52, I mean sure we've quadrupled the amount of locks to shoot but subtracted 2 needed boosts. The race is on. 101 will happen this week.

 

[Rützou]

Kevin is a chump.

People said all kinds of pessimistic things to me when i joined 10 years ago, but i ignored them and eventually proved them wrong again and again.

Fabio119, you can do anything you set your mind to, if you have both the talent required, and the will for an insane grind.

[mw]

why set your sights so low as s1 101

I recommend going for depot 22 instead

[Huzi]

Here's an 11 year old TAS by Simon Sternis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR2mJa3fyYE

pray for the Santos Boost.

good luck!

[Happens]

Bruh moment

Good luck fam, you’re gonna need it. I’d like to see you prove the haters wrong, we’ll see if you have what it takes.

[Depotnoir]

Is there footage of this mystery boost?

[Yendis]

Is there footage of this mystery boost?

At 2:28. Iirc this is the only 102 with the boost, but it has happened for others during the grind. I never saw the boost once when I went for 1:02

[mw]

Here I get two Santos boosts across three consecutive runs. This was when I had basically first started playing for 1:03 so there's a lot of slop and bad habits that could be the reason for getting the boosts.

[Irie]

That is the reason my steps list to start the level in left strafe, and also watch a few frames of cutscene, gotta lose .2 to gain .3 bro it's an untied 

[Blue Khakis]

I know fuck all about 101 but respect for having the balls to put your ambitions out there.

[Ray Ruane]

While we're on the topic, it's probably common knowledge, but you can warp your way up the ladder by shooting the KF7 while near or at it. Any idea if this is faster as you can keep on shooting when you warp up the ladder?!

[Irie]

You don't even have to shoot, or switch weapons. Just watch Henrik's 1:02, or Wouter's 1:03. Yes might be a bit faster, probs won't help much for 1:01 though

[Ray Ruane]

Yeah, I've seen Wouter's 1:03. How does he (and Henrik obviously) do that?!

[Irie]

Just a little flick up and down on the stick as you touch the ladder. Switching weapons is a lot more consistent, the no weapon swap isn't magic it's just annoying to miss

[Wyst3r]

You just have to do a (not so) sharp turn pretty much to warp it, might require hitting the ladder in a good spot.