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« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2008, 11:21:00 am »
Besides, you can probably get like 1:36 every try

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« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2008, 01:01:00 pm »
I cant get it every try my bot can be slower than you can imagine!
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« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2008, 06:56:00 pm »
I think the worsts Ive gotten is like 1:38, cant remember anything slower. That is with a solid ending of course.

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« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2008, 07:12:00 pm »
Well of course you can get even slower if you bug the bot a lot.

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« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2008, 07:42:00 pm »
I'm just too unlucky :P
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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2008, 06:47:00 pm »
Attack Ship - A - 2:12

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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2008, 02:43:00 am »
Ha From what I remember, trust on your auto-aim as much as possible, it's easy to kill the skedars upstairs like very very fast (you barely look at them). Elvis completes more often that way And then it's plain luck for a decent end on the final skedars! I had many 2:08/2:09 chances but just didn't get a good end. Actually I think I didn't get any 20 seconds end, just 22 and higher (high 22 was the one on my 2:10). You should get like 2:09, 2:10 is very weak.

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« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2008, 05:00:00 pm »
Rescue SA 2:32

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« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2008, 01:03:00 am »
Challenge 30 1P, 10-4 Woo! 4 of the last 5 hills of the match were the pyramid room or the dead end.
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« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2008, 08:25:00 am »
Attack Ship - Agent - 2:12 (2) - 24 bridge
Attack Ship - Agent - 2:12 (3) - 24 bridge
Attack Ship - Agent - 2:13 - 25 bridge

Just a question for people who can get Elvis to complete a lot. The thing I don't understand is that I am as fast as anyone on the WR runs, and even basically faster almost everytime (except for Greg's run). But Elvis doesn't complete; I have had like an 18 in a row of non-completions, which frustrates the hell out of me. It cannot be that I am slow (low 40 lift, 1:14 low door upstairs, 1:22 flat-1:22.5 lift close, 1:48 Elvis), but what else could be that Elvis almost never completes?

If he did complete more often, maybe I could have a shot at 2:10 finally.

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« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2008, 12:27:00 pm »
That's weird then. Your TTs are as good as I was getting when playing that level, and I had at least 30% completion on my sessions (sometimes even 50%). Well, thinking of it, I couldn't get too many "Elvis fails" in a row, because I'd risk everything and miss a shot or whatever, so when I did everything right, it was really fast. On that 2:10 video of mine it was just a good run upstairs, really. But I dunno, maybe it's some detail like the path you take, how fast you shoot the skedar (probably the 4th one which is far away), etc.

Maybe your TT by the locked door is good enough, but that's because of your first lift. I had a flat 40 lift, and mid 1:21 first lift closed. It was a decent run upstairs but it's possible to do faster, like I did these days when randomly playing that level. So yeah, perhaps there's room for a little improvement that might make the difference, or, as I said, it's some other kind of detail that I do different than you.

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« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2008, 05:11:00 am »
Yeah, but then again I think it's all random. Basically because every video I've watched so far is a) slower and b) takes a different path. For example, YE waits a while with shooting the 3rd skedar and is slow in general with a 1:24 lift, but still gets an Elvis completion. Boss has just an average run, gets an Elvis completion. You (Greg) have a fast run and get it to complete. So I doubt it has anything to do with how fast you are. Maybe indeed some little detail.

But that whole Elvis completion thingy, basically nonsense to even discuss it. Even if we do know why and why not he completes, I wonder if we can manipulate our runs that way in order to get a 100% rate. Basically all my runs upstairs are dupes of each other, so it must be in the details, and either I'm too dumb to see what it is or it's such a small thing that is easily overlooked.

I guess I'll just try and sort of 'accept' my low completion rate. Takes a little more time, but yeah, no problem, fun level.

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« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2008, 06:21:00 am »
Remember that it's possible to get Elvis to complete even when you aren't that fast, it's just that the odds of that happenning are too low. So taking a WR run to make this comparison isn't a good idea. Anyway, I recall Karl saying to "do just like him" upstairs and Elvis would complete on a good rate, or something like that. I'm preety sure that there's something because my completion rate (when I do keep going on the level) is, most of the times, at least a little better than what you're telling, and I'm sure Karl would get better rates as well. That little piece of shit could see this and post his opinion about it, as I've said his name two times on this post!

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« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2008, 11:31:00 pm »
MBR A 1:21 (cass talked)

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EDIT: also some 122s or so in there, 127 with slow cass the whole time

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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2008, 06:08:00 pm »
Villa sa 1:36

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« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2008, 01:27:00 am »
MBR SA 1:24

- done it twice, haven't put a run together yet

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« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2009, 08:03:00 pm »
Escape - A - 2:30 (first try)

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« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2009, 04:20:00 am »
aww that's my pr man, the latest I got on my christmas vacation

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« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2009, 06:36:00 am »


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« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2009, 09:02:00 am »
lol @ that site!

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« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2009, 09:07:00 am »

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« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2009, 09:13:00 am »
nicovideo worked, just loaded slower
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« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2009, 07:15:00 pm »
very nice Taka!

I was wondering why u posted 2:50 video. When I saw the beggining I thought just because it wasnt good. when u punched the guard and waited I thought "lol and he still got 2:50".

keep going!
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« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2009, 07:00:00 am »
How consistent is this, Taka? Maybe I'll give it a shot as well.

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« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2009, 05:52:00 pm »
Wow very nice, doesn't look that hard to get it to work (don't know about other factors like other guards shooting you though). Go for lower there!

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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2009, 05:53:00 pm »
Oh BTW, I got Escape PA 3:20 a few days ago.. a 2:29 cinema, whaaaaaat? That's like 4 seconds slower than my best!

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« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2009, 07:43:00 pm »
Wow, i knew that trick was a great timesaver(considering the TAS was 27 seconds faster than wr...) but still, that run looked like a first completion ever from someone like me, super safe and not very fast, and still within 4 seconds of wr??!!! And that's not even with an instant opening! I guess chances of this working are like pretty good then? Possibly even better than grenade chances in GE(considering you have more time to spare..), I don't think a 10 second untied is unrealistic at this point(Ace would do it for sure). Of course, that is if above statement is somewhat near the truth / /

I bet Denis Lucid will get 2:31.

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« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2009, 11:39:00 am »
Yeah, considering that he put a lot of time on that CI 1:37, which is an even crazier strat.. the problem with Rescue PA is that you can't get to the hole with decent health and decent time every try (like on A or SA), so add the instant open with a good start, it's very hard. But all you need is patience I guess, it's totally possible to get a WR with it.

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« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2009, 10:34:00 am »
Escape SA 3:20

This was done with a 2:29 cinema, dunno how long I've been waiting for the mine to complete, maybe about 6 seconds. Kinda obvious how the mine always completes on slow Jons (which are ~1:41 for me). On fast Jons it never does, or so it seems at least. I've had a 3 hour session where I got at least about 10 1:39 Jons or lower; currently my best Jon is a high 1:37. Technically a 1:41 Jon can give you 3:15 I guess, but you'll need everything after that to be pretty much perfect. It's pretty frustrating to get all these awesome Jons without getting a chance for a completion, although I did have one mid 2:24 cinema I guess, which needs a 18 Elvis (which is about the best I can get) to complete for a 3:15.

I guess I'll just keep trying, because I like the level.

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« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2009, 04:49:00 am »
Pelagic II Agent 1:00

2 took forever to complete, had a mid 44 pause for x ray so I guess this was a solid 49 effort.
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« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2009, 08:19:00 am »
Deep Sea Agent 2:58 (PAL)

Not great, but I got a 0:58 Elvis which is my best.

Is there an exact point and angle where you have to shoot the cannisters from, or is it simply a case of hoping that the Farsight locks on to them quickly?

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« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2009, 04:01:00 pm »
I remember having decided before hand where to stand and aim when I played that, I assume others do the same, still though I screwed it up a few times but it helps if you know a spot to go for, though you have to hope the targeting does the rest of the job, you just have to help getting the targeting into the right direction.

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« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2009, 05:45:00 am »
Villa PA 1:34

Got stuck on the last door for 1 sec, should have been a 133 dupe but ah well
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« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2009, 05:40:00 am »
Rescue PA 2:58

This was 20 seconds slower to the X ray part than my best runs.
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« Reply #84 on: June 14, 2009, 04:49:00 am »
G5 SA 0:45

This was an absolutely insane run, 1 sec faster than my 41, but guards closed the door and piled up, got stuck for ages.
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« Reply #85 on: June 14, 2009, 04:45:00 pm »
Wtf, if you tie my Agent PR on SA I will retire myself from the ranks. This is too much of insanity.

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« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2009, 09:06:00 pm »

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« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2009, 02:55:00 am »
G5 Special Agent 0:42
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« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2009, 04:06:00 pm »
Investigation A 1:28, 1:30, 1:34 (in a row)
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« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2009, 02:56:00 am »
Dude just use the guard-open-uplink-door. I put the odds at 1/100.

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« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2009, 04:30:00 am »
I dont know if I have ever seen a guard go up to that door..and if you look at Rescue PA, you can see it takes more than 5 seconds for the guard to even make it to the door, so it seems silly.
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« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2009, 05:07:00 am »
I messed around on emulator and had it work a few times. Enter door before uplink, disarm guard, then strafe side to side in front of door. That's what I used. The problem was that it's rare that he decides to run at you. If you can figure out how to make him run instead of fuck around like pull a falcon 2 or surrender... It would get better.

Maybe ask a TASer how to manipulate him.

Anyway, I put the saving at 4 seconds after getting to work really fast a few times.

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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2009, 05:19:00 am »
yeah its just the door is smaller on Invest, and he has to charge, then also do another animation, so all this combined will likely take about as long as the data uplink, and more inconsistent.
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« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2009, 03:12:00 am »
Escape A 2:29

Fuck me, almost jumped to 2:24 from 2:28!!

Crazy run, 1:51 or so meet, Elvis didnt spin or anything, but Jon ended up getting stuck on Elvis and I couldnt push him far enough, so the music didnt start early enough and the buttons failed....went back and pressed the first console, low 229. Must have been 2:24 pace at least.
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« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2009, 05:35:00 am »
Yeah most of the times you get a high 33 ending when done the last part properly (timing the consoles).

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« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2009, 05:58:00 am »
I just feel like throwing my cart out right now. I dont understand Jon at all. Every fucking time he stands there or something and doesnt run to the spot to do his thing, so I get like 58 Jons instead of 56s which is what I need for 224/225, so its getting very frustrating. I constantly get 37/38 meets with Jon so I must be doing something wrong since there is no way it can be this luck based. Do you have some tips or help so I can get fast Jons at least relatively consistently?

Edit: I think I see what I was doing wrong, you have to turn around twice to look at Jon after meeting him so he follows you faster or something, I only looked once...so a lot of the times he was probably standing there like a moron wasting a few seconds, hopefully this helps when I try tomorrow.
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« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2009, 06:22:00 am »
The only thing I'm sure of which helps for consistency is looking at Jon when he's at the second "turn" of the ramp (like I do in my vids). 56 Jons are rare, so don't expect all too much consistency with this. I think my best is a high 54 Jon though, but he needs to be perfect or anything. I also think Rayan has done a 2 second faster cinema than the current WR runs. But I'm not kidding you when I say that when you have a fast cinema EVERYTHING gets screwed up afterwards. Jon also likes to shoot some guy when he's at the meeting place when you're on a WR run.

Also, after the cinema, look at Elvis when you're up on the ramp above after letting the mines explode. Then try to get him against the wall during the last pushing part, so you can strafe push him, but I only do this when I need to get risky.

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« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2009, 06:29:00 am »
Yeah Elvis and Jon are both gay and need to be choked to death with BBC.

But anyway, I wasnt turning around when he did the 2nd turn so I guess thats what the problem is, though I agree consistency will likely still not be that good. Your Elvis on 2:24 seemed really fast, i think if you watch him come out, then kinda look away for a bit he is faster more often, though I need to practice my pushing more since I tend to push him the wrong angle and he spins around and ruins the run. And yeah, the guards are gay, especially that one guard who sometimes lures out and Jon spends all day trying to kill him. Also, I am not completely consistent with the ending. Do you need to time the two B presses on the first console a certain way so it works out? Sometimes I hit B too fast or something, and even when the music starts playing the door still doesnt open, so I guess you gotta wait for the first sound, then press after you hear it?
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« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2009, 06:35:00 am »
The ending can be timed: stand beneath the ramp, and don't push Jon too far on the ramp because he'll either fall off or the music doesn't start (but it isn't faster in any case if you push him further up the ramp), then leave exactly at "but we can't leave you behind'. Then push B twice at the first console and finish the level. Maybe you can practice this just once or twice on a lame run, but this isn't difficult. Sometimes the music doesn't start at all (or just starts way later than normal).

That spinning around part when pushing Elvis is common, although he only does this at certain spots, so avoid pushing him over. I think Elvis is programmed in such a way that he needs to "hit" these spots in order to continue running, and if you push him over there he walks back to this "checkpoint." Of course, you might be lucky and he might hit the spot when you're pushing him but it's really not worth it. After that it's just having luck that Jon is just standing there instead of shooting or running back.

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« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2009, 06:39:00 am »
Okay, thanks. I think the main issue was that sometimes I leave Jon too early and it fails. But still, sometimes I am sure I hit the first console twice and it still doesnt finish, even though the music starts, so maybe either I left Jon early or one of the B presses failed or i did it too insane, i dunno, guess Ill have to work it out.
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