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« on: October 22, 2006, 08:17:00 pm »
I have a question: how does it come that the last door is open?

is there a purpose about why (in 1:11 movie) he throws the dragon (a boost maybe).

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 09:08:00 pm »
Cinema timming?

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 01:51:00 am »
PAL = door closed
NTSC = door open
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 02:35:00 pm »
As I dont wanna spam this forum.. another quick question: if you skip the lines of cassandra in MBR, it takes a while before she starts moving finally>: . Anyone know how to make sure she begins walking forwarddd asap?

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 02:42:00 pm »
Try to punch her once or twice instead... Like in the WR videos! Oh, and whenever you PR go ahead and post in the PR topic a bit of activity here is always good ;)

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2006, 07:23:00 pm »
not if that activity is people going mad and destroying their pd carts.. I guess
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2006, 02:57:00 pm »
Any particular method to jump over the cliff with skedar ruins PA? its damn hard, i succeeded a few times though. but getting the right pillars AND the succesful jump is too hard.
any help? :)

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2006, 03:03:00 pm »
You know about the "new trick"?
p075.ezboard.com/fperfect...5117.topic

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2006, 05:28:00 pm »
Thanx Otto, I'm gonna try that out tomorrow.

I succeeded with the jump without that R-thingy, but it was way too hard. Every time I had the right pillars, it wouldn't let me jump over :( , and it was pissing me off. I'm not sure what the trick is all about, but for the look of it, it seems easy. :|

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2006, 08:13:00 pm »
never mind, i cant get it to work :P
tried it about 30 times, i was better of with the normal jump :x

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2006, 12:16:00 am »
Its easy, are you stearing the left when you jump?;)

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2006, 04:16:00 am »
You need to steer to the left?

Yeah i've only gotten it to work like twice in 200 attempts as well...

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2006, 05:00:00 am »
I stay as close to the left as possible, and it seems to work just about every try. You have to be unarmed though, so maybe that's where you peeps are going wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2006, 08:25:00 am »
FB, are you changing direction while being in the air? A bit like YE does in the 1:36 vid. Because when I try to do the R-thing, I follow that path. Also, do you mean steer left (left C-button?) or face left (like in the 1:36 vid?).

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2006, 11:13:00 am »
I didnt go to left part when I got my 1:27

I think you just need to hold a little the R, like FB said with unarmed is very easier, but I did it sometimes with a gun too

Maybe you need to get more speed, i cant do the R-thing fast as the vid, i think losing 0.5s is not THAT bad :P
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2006, 07:13:00 pm »
You need very little speed to pull off the trick, it's actually pretty easy if you know how to do it. I can probably get it about 80% of the time.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2006, 08:59:00 am »
Cass punching is done on MBR for a reason other than to make her leave faster. If you miss Mr Blonde's speech, you can punch her and she'll immediately say her line, assuming she gasps. I believe punching her doesn't make her leave any faster.

With Ruins, I tried out the R trick when it was first released and was unable to pull it off. I am much more consistant doing it the way I did in my 1:36. I can do that about every 1 in 3 tries.

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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2006, 04:00:00 pm »
I pretty much use all those things mentioned, Full speed, tap R in air, I've tried turning as well, nothing seems to work.

Does the trick work for both Ntsc/PAL? Just asking cause there was a similar thing in TWINE where you could only jump the boxes on COW 2 with NTSC.

And does it work with all video settings?

Can't really think of any more factors that could be relevant here?

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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2006, 04:44:00 pm »
It works for PAL... cause I did it like 10 times in the past hour. Starting to master it slowly :b  

You should tap R as late as possible, I believe!

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2006, 05:02:00 pm »
I did it too, and I think it is a PAL thing only. If YE can't do it, one of the best players, and some more NTSC, that must be it.

Anyway, I have a few questions about the Infiltration Agent-bot. (I managed to get 1:32 (PAL)), but:

I watched the two 1:28 movies, and I wonder:
- does it really help to switch unarmed and falcon 2 very fast? dunno, but seems unlikely.
- what does frame rate (hi-res and 16:9) to do with the speed of the bot? I figured that it had to help one way or the other, as my bots were going surprisingly faster.
- is there a difference between PAL and NTSC bots?
- is 1:32 good enough with a late 0:50 bot? Or should I be faster at the end?

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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2006, 05:17:00 pm »
Umm... RB. Ghus discovered it. He's Brazilian (= NTSC) so yeah it's possible on both systems.

I will leave more of those Invest question for other ppl to answer BUT PAL is highly disadvantaged with the bot, it's @#$%! Guess, I need to get 1:32 now as well. If this keeps up you are going to pass me soon :b

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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2006, 05:31:00 pm »
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afb...-SECAM.png

Brazil = PAL

btw Otto, if you like and have time for it, you can set up a rivalry between us two :D

And I'm gonna play some Investigation PA now, should be able to cut off like 50 seconds there :eek

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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2006, 05:40:00 pm »
The Brazilians are NTSC. Also, I can pull off the trick and I'm NTSC, so that's not the problem. Plus YE has both versions anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2006, 03:04:00 am »
The problem comes when you suck and don't have any real skill (eg. Matt Cook). Having this irreversible defect makes the jump a lot harder.

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2006, 11:49:00 am »
The rivalry is up: koti.mbnet.fi/darkotto/ri.../elite.htm

Please note that my times aren't all up-to-date as I only update my main page whenever I happen to make videos!
However, my up-to-date times can still be found at koti.mbnet.fi/darkotto/PAL/DarkOtto.txt

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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2006, 04:19:00 pm »
Very nicely done Otto :)

Now we can see where we sort of lag behind. Or at least, I think its gonna motivate me to beat you 8)

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2006, 05:04:00 pm »
Hah you wish... For sure this will motivate me too to play even harder so that you can't beat me :evil  It's just a pity that I'm very busy with school at the moment, ah well Xmas holiday is comming up soon :)

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2006, 05:26:00 pm »
Probably, its gonna take me some time to beat you. Would be nice if you updated your times, because I think you're gonna own me big time then :P.

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2006, 06:24:00 pm »
Otto won't update his times because he isn't allowed on the rankings without video proof. This just makes for convenience.
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