Author Topic: Cheater's League Rivalry (Read 7599 times)

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #100 on:** October 08, 2003, 03:02:00 pm »

SA can go dangerously close to the A max because you have to wait for the lift on A anyway and PA is only about 2-3 seconds slower.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #101 on:** October 08, 2003, 05:52:00 pm »

Matt: "What's so about 1:24 Maian A?"

Well, I got a few, and in my second one I blew a 1:22 or so...Got stuck just before the second lift, it was opening just as I got stuck...I was there for about a second, then I backboosted myself to kill the guard in front of me...costing me about 1.5 total...and since it was a 1:19.3x computer, i would say it was to be a 1:22.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #102 on:** October 08, 2003, 08:00:00 pm »

CI A: 0:42 $:\$
CI SA: 1:15 :eek

Agent is really weak; 40-41 should be possible. SA is very good; either I suck, or 1:15 is pretty much maxed without boosts.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #103 on:** October 08, 2003, 10:24:00 pm »

CI PA: 1:25 whew

And I got my first Attack Ship completions:
Attack Ship Agent: 2:18 long elvis wait, $:\$ bad finish, from normal WR TT's it seems a little under 2:00 is possible if you could get a good elvis...maybe we should try doing this level without slow-mo, just so elvis warps.

Attack Ship SA: 2:50 Long elvis wait as well...also, very long lift wait, probably around 2:30 is possible.

Attack Ship PA: 3:17 Nice start, 1:03 or something lift shut, long wait for elvis, messed up the brown things, and had to wait a long time at the lift...maybe 3:00 or something is possible.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #104 on:** October 09, 2003, 12:45:00 am »

1:12 is possible on CI SA without boosts I'm sure. 1:25 PA was as far as i was able to take it though

Attack Ship SA and PA will be done today

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #105 on:** October 09, 2003, 01:35:00 am »

I think for attack ship you have to go right and slow... dunno though. I went left for:

2:34 Attack Ship SA

Worst beginning ever... 43 lift or something... but...

Best end *ever*... First shut as i was approaching, slipped in. Shut the next lift. R/L ed the next 3 guys. Killed 2 skedar for the finish

I hate elvis!!!

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #106 on:** October 09, 2003, 02:47:00 am »

Attack Ship SA 2:19

I've got a strat that is fairly good for elvis... kind of. One time an amazing strat worked... but i couldn't repeat it

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 09, 2003, 03:21:00 am »

2:57 Attack Ship PA

Very Dirty Run

1:13 Lift...

2:04 Door or something

Waited 2 seconds or so for both lifts (4 total)

Good ending with good, consistent strat. You complete in 15 instead of 24.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #108 on:** October 09, 2003, 04:29:00 am »

2:15 Attack Ship SA :lol

I went too slow moving elvis. Elvis had good potential on that run, but i messed it up.

On to Agent I guess... I really have no idea how i'll get elvis to be good though. meh i'll just do PA

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #109 on:** October 09, 2003, 05:05:00 am »

Attack Ship PA 2:53

Need a new time to quit the cinema... straight away isn't any good

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #110 on:** October 09, 2003, 06:25:00 am »

2:12 Attack Ship A

38 Lift
121 Door (damn elvis! :lol

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156 Elvis
16 second finish :evil

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #111 on:** October 09, 2003, 06:49:00 am »

Defection SA 0:25

THAT is why I like the cheaters' league.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #112 on:** October 09, 2003, 07:05:00 am »

Well, it looks like you had some luck on Attack Ship, and also Defection. I didn't feel like finding any other strats on Attack Ship, so I stuck with what I already knew:

Attack Ship SA: 2:39 :rolleyes

44 lift
Attack Ship PA: 3:00 :rolleyes

1:09 lift, should be able to get about 2:54 I think.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #113 on:** October 09, 2003, 03:04:00 pm »

Infiltration 1:08 - first try
CI A 0:41 - once I got the strat it was easy

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #114 on:** October 09, 2003, 03:11:00 pm »

Josh, you passed me in points but that's mostly because I'm not playing SA and PA at all right now. Trying to max out A and pass Matt's PAL total A time. It's tough losing 30 seconds on deep sea.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #115 on:** October 09, 2003, 05:03:00 pm »

Attack Ship SA: 2:34...2:15? How?
Attack Ship PA: 2:56...Made elvis bad on accident, can probably get around 2:52 at best.
CI A: 0:41 :lol

Couldn't help getting this one

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #116 on:** October 09, 2003, 06:19:00 pm »

Had to get some Defection completions in because all the N/A's are killing my total time:
Def A: 0:07 first completion...landed on the computer, so basically it should have completed way up higher. I'll get 0:06 soon enough.

Def SA: 0:31 ...25? Damn, I must be doing something pretty bad...I can only get around 0:29 at best, but 0:25 is out of the question...I was thinking about the strat all day and can't see any way to get faster.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #117 on:** October 09, 2003, 07:02:00 pm »

I need to test my signature, but I might as well get this one off:

Matt, I need the strats for Air Base PA, Defection SA, Attack Ship SA, and I guess that's it...I really don't see what can be done so much differently on Attack Ship SA to drop a whole 19 seconds, and Defection SA 25 is madness...

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #118 on:** October 09, 2003, 08:29:00 pm »

Defection PA: 1:25 $:\$

1:23 without cheats = omfg pwned

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #119 on:** October 09, 2003, 10:35:00 pm »

Air Base A 1:11 - sucky lasers

Escape A 2:29 - 55 jon, but my ending must be way too slow, strat please

I was also working on getting 18 on chicago PA and it really isn't that hard except for the fact that you have to watch the mine hit the door. I've decided it has to be a perfect run to get. I have a different strat I might try later.

BTW, I won't be playing much this weekend, skateboard competition next weekend, got to practice up!

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #120 on:** October 09, 2003, 10:42:00 pm »

Infil SA: 1:36 :rolleyes

Infil PA: 1:38 :rolleyes

Rescue Agent: 1:29

Bah, bad times on Infil, but better than nothing...for rescue, I finally got a run where the guy wasn't all the way at the shower area; he was almost all the way down the ramp by the hole, so that was good. I got an open door too, because I was firing my K7 like a madman all through the brown area before the hole and at the suit guy as well...but I had to pay for it, because when I got the keycard and left, that exact door was opened completely, but shut right as I got to it...so I had to wait for it to shut and then open it, basically "cancelling" the fact that it was open for the first time. Had I turned off invinc, I could have taken off more time as well.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #121 on:** October 10, 2003, 03:31:00 am »

Only time i got: Villa PA 55.

Strat for Escape Agent ending??? none... Just push elvis a lot; your ending was VERY bad, no good strat is needed.

I'll give you some hints for the strats...

Defection SA... start straight away, go down, throw ecm mine (clearly it's better to glitch down, but i couldn't be bothered :lol

) then go to the cheese.... That's all.

Attack Ship.. damn, it's hard to give a hint... meh, farsight. pwned.

Air Base PA...? No special strat here.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #122 on:** October 10, 2003, 02:27:00 pm »

Escape A 2:27 - blah, not so good ending, I push elvis and he hes to go back and turn around in circles, how gay

MBR A 1:19 - good run, but late cass push after disarm and I waited for the lift to come downfor about 2-3 seconds, she talked once

Chicago A 0:11(x10) - I'm convinced 10 is possible but it's pretty damn hard

Chicago PA 0:18 :eek

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #123 on:** October 10, 2003, 02:28:00 pm »

#1 Agent time + NTSC = pwned

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #124 on:** October 10, 2003, 03:52:00 pm »

Nice job on the Agent times and stuff...
I still have a few levels to complete on agent yet, Deep Sea and Crash Site for sure, not what else...
I finally got around to playing Deep Sea Agent yesterday, and I had a 2:47 or something cutscene...but when I started off after that, it froze! I was pretty mad...I'll do better, I had a 48 ( :eek

) Elvis and I think I should be able to get around 3:00 on a good run.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #125 on:** October 10, 2003, 07:04:00 pm »

Deep Sea Agent: 3:11 :rolleyes

Attack Ship Agent: 2:15
Attack Ship Special Agent: 2:33 :rolleyes

Attack Ship Perfect Agent: 2:54

I had to wait a long time for the lift on SA; I think this level might be disadvantaged on SA if you start the level right away, and I really don't feel like waiting out the cutscene.

Edit: Forgot....
CI Agent: 0:40.

-3 for AS Agent, and -1 for this = -4, so we should be at 1:25.59 now

It seems like a long way, but I think we may break 1:25.00 sometime soon.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #126 on:** October 10, 2003, 08:23:00 pm »

Carrington Institute Special Agent: 1:14 (x2)

Both were low decimals, and had minor mistakes, probably 1:13 without boosting I guess...I don't think 1:12 though.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #127 on:** October 10, 2003, 08:57:00 pm »

Yeah, and you might break 3 hours sometime soon too.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #128 on:** October 10, 2003, 11:46:00 pm »

POST 500

Escape A 2:25 - nice time Matt

Attack Ship A 2:14 - first completion

On MBR how do you get the lift down more than once every million tries?

And for CI how do you get him to speak going 40 pace. I can fail them easily but I can't get him to say the bomb thing during the uplink.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #129 on:** October 11, 2003, 12:12:00 am »

For MBR, uncloak and stand in the back-left corner of the lift. A guard will see you and yell something, then run forward to the door (or just cloak). She calls the lift, and it's there by the time you go up a floor.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #130 on:** October 11, 2003, 12:18:00 am »

I do that but the lift is still up or just coming down on most runs. I guess I just have bad luck today.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #131 on:** October 11, 2003, 02:42:00 am »

What on earth is the CI A strat? I can't remember but i think 45 seemed pretty good to me :lol

edit3: deleted the other edits!!! :lol

I have a pwning CI SA, PA (maybe A) strat :evil

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #132 on:** October 11, 2003, 05:07:00 am »

40 CI A

38 is max i think.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #133 on:** October 11, 2003, 05:30:00 am »

38 CI A

That is so maxed. I got off all of my farsight shots ASAP and went past the "barrier" as soon as she said affirmative. Can't beat that. It was .76 also.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #134 on:** October 11, 2003, 06:10:00 am »

1:13.08 CI SA

Very flawed. I shot a guy with an LX... hit his gun

Cost me a second I guess. I think i have a sub 110 strat lined up...

I'm not too sure about how PA will work or IF it will work for that matter

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #135 on:** October 11, 2003, 06:29:00 am »

Here is the escape A strat i used for 222:

Kill as many guards as possible on the way to Jon (all but 1 biotechnician this means). Push him to the door frame then backstrafe, watching him. Keep walking backwards, and even when you open the door, still look towards him (stand on the left side of the door, looking at the right side of it to see both it and Jon). When it's open enough fire that grenade then look back at bitch. Walk into position for him to run to the wall. Throw like 5 mines around the room and go to elvis when prompted:-/... Run out and shoot that guy that is left behind, then get out your mines. detonate whilst looking at elvis. Keep looking... throw a mine up in the hole and detonate when it lands. When elvis makes his first turn (2nd last if this is vague) start pushing him; not too fast. Only push Jon to the bottom of the stairs and leave him when Jo say "But we...(can't leave you behind)"

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #136 on:** October 11, 2003, 09:43:00 am »

CI strat now bizaratch!

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #137 on:** October 11, 2003, 11:46:00 am »

Crash Site PA: 1:56

Oh my. Where do I begin with the mistakes?

After the scanner pickup, I got stuck on the toilet seat thing on the ground for 1-2 seconds. Then I missed the distress beacon thing, had to go back for it...then I pressed B and it didn't activate, so I had to wait another second to press again to make sure I didn't get off the bike.
Then I missed the clone, so I wasted a second shooting another shot at him. Then since the president wasn't completing at all, I decided to wait for him a bit at the top of the tunnel. Waited about 3 seconds and then left...
Missed the LX shot.

Considering my usual UFO shot is about 1:42, I guess this could be around 1:45 using this strat...
And the strat is exactly the same as the normal one, except I farsight the clone instead of go to him and mine, which, in my experience, isn't much faster, and if it is, probably only a second or two.

Other than those 10 or so seconds of mistakes, this run was perfect :lol

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #138 on:** October 11, 2003, 02:20:00 pm »

Mr. Blonde's Revenge Agent: 1:15 (x2) $:\$

Not that great...the second 1:15 had Cass running slow the whole way, plus she did some spins as well.
I'm hoping for around 1:12.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #139 on:** October 11, 2003, 03:18:00 pm »

Mr. Blonde's Revenge Special Agent: 1:16

No speech skips, but not a bad run...I had a run earlier that was 2 seconds ahead at the last in-door ramp, so at least 1:14 is possible for sure.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #140 on:** October 11, 2003, 03:39:00 pm »

Skedar Ruins Special Agent: 1:24
Skedar Ruins Perfect Agent: 1:28

Both runs were bad; horrible doors on both, plus bad finishes. On PA, I was actually 4 seconds ahead of my SA run but I had to do the army part, which I did bad.
Also on my PA run, I shot each pillar thing out seperately, and I can take out 3 in one shot, plus my 4th one I shot like 6 shots at with the LX. Pretty bad.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #141 on:** October 11, 2003, 03:51:00 pm »

Skedar Ruins Perfect Agent: 1:22

Had some pretty bad doors, but the king was much better...My first LX shot took out 3 of the pillar things, and then I took out the 4th and then last without missing. Maybe you can line up the last 2 at the same time?

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #142 on:** October 11, 2003, 04:56:00 pm »

Crash Site Agent: 1:15

Finally had a pretty good president...

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #143 on:** October 11, 2003, 05:13:00 pm »

Crash Site Special Agent: 1:27 $:\$
Not the best president...

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #144 on:** October 11, 2003, 05:21:00 pm »

Skedar Ruins Agent: 1:10

Had to jump the gap, only made it at 0:29. Was trying some stuff on the king, so I didn't do too well; lost a few seconds there.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #145 on:** October 11, 2003, 10:02:00 pm »

Escape A 2:24
Air Base A 1:10

I'm not going to play much cheats for a little while. I might play a run every once in a while but not like I used to. I'm going to start playing normal again probably and pwn the sht out of DMan on crash site.

I will still update so you two can have fun pwning.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #146 on:** October 11, 2003, 11:11:00 pm »

I'm going to pwn crash site.

I've got a strat for PA which will work for sure. My A/SA strats may not work.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #147 on:** October 12, 2003, 10:03:00 am »

I surely hope you don't think on relying on the farsight for the Crash Site Perfect Agent Unidentified Flying Object Shot.

I have hit it from a little further back, but I've searched and searched and most of the time it's like, impossible to find...Actually, I think I just came up with strat right now, come to think of it...

(And I mean, I know where it's at, you can zoom in and even find the turrets that are nearby, but I've searched that whole field area for like 5 minutes and couldn't find it.)

I think it was just that I was too far back...if that's the case, then I should be able to get around 1:27, just like SA.

By the way...the strat for Agent/SA is simple.

Don't go down into the cave/hole where the clone is; instead, keep going into the cave area to the leftish, and pull out your mines. Head to the left, and look down a big crack/hole thing in the wall and throw a mine, you will see the bot thing sitting there, detonate when it goes a bit passed him, continue...and you will be up the hill part (first place real pres. goes when he follows you). throw a mine at these 2 bots, detonate and drop off as you switch to unarmed, hit trent...then make pres. good, when you get to the final spot, pause and pull out scanner, hurry up and zoom in and kill fake president.

Same strat for A/SA, except SA has that extra objective at the start and stuff...

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #148 on:** October 12, 2003, 08:56:00 pm »

"...then make pres. good."

huh?

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #149 on:** October 12, 2003, 09:23:00 pm »

You of all people should know that you can actually make the president good...

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