Author Topic: Cheater's League Rivalry (Read 7599 times)

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #50 on:** October 01, 2003, 06:38:00 pm »

Extraction Agent: 0:42

I don't see what was so hard about this; after I realized the obvious strat, (i = teh dumb!11) this came after 2 completions...the first one I got stuck like mad at the start, and then tried to go through the first door at the stairs after lift, which isn't the right way...still turned out to finish 0:45.

Anyways, on to SA/PA, although I'm not sure where the BGs are/how many there are.

Edit: Extraction SA: 0:56

I learned myself the strat...somewhat. Am I supposed to make the second lift? It's not there, but if I wait out more in the cinema, will it be there?
Basically, I got to the bitches at 45, the run before was 44, and I might be able to eek out a 43. So I'm guessing 54 would be good for me, although I don't see where I could save another second.
I played some PA and I have trouble completing; Caroll always dies like a fag.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #51 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:09:00 pm »

I found Ext. hard because I would never have a perfect run, I had like 5 43.2 but I just couldn't get the rest off. I finally timed the cinema so the elevator was just opening and I got it first try.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #52 on:** October 01, 2003, 09:57:00 pm »

I didn't bother with that kind of timing; I did it after she kicked the guard, so when I got there it was fully opened (although on SA I was messing with timing and I found where it starts to open; just a little after the guy says "She's here sound the alarm" or whatever)

Two tieds for me:
G5 A: 29

G5 SA: 33

I went thinking SA was 32, so when I got a near perfect run that turned out 33.90 (thank god it didn't round up!) I was like omfg Matt is awesome at this level if he can get 32...then I came here and saw 33, I was like thank you god

Edit:
G5 PA: 41 :eek

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #53 on:** October 02, 2003, 06:04:00 pm »

Okay, so I've made some vids (it took almost 2 hours total time!!11

)

Here is what I made (basically, only the records that I had taped):

Chicago A: 0:12
G5 A: 0:29
G5 SA: 0:33
G5 PA: 0:41
War A: 0:22
War SA: 0:25
War PA: 0:28
MBR A: 1:16
Deep Sea PA: 2:54
CI A: 0:45
Extraction A: 0:42
Villa SA: 1:08
Villa PA 1:10

That's it. I didn't get these records on tape:
P2 A: 0:46
P2 SA: 1:34
(I think that's it?)

And I didn't feel like making Escape SA/PA, since Deep Sea 2:54 was over 9 minutes, I'm sure those are about 15 minutes apiece...don't want to sit here another half hour, especially since those 2 are easily beatable first try.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #54 on:** October 03, 2003, 06:43:00 am »

How dare you touch G5

I'm actually quite sure i got a 31 recently (few weeks ago) on SA.. but i dunno. Surely it's possible and i'll get it as soon as i get my cart back. I watched my 33 vid and i can see plenty of error.

Can you have files in your Getfile available (maybe you do already)? I'll grab a few off you when i can.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #55 on:** October 03, 2003, 07:26:00 am »

They're all ready; I made plenty of error in Villa SA/PA, so I'm looking at maybe 1:06 and 1:08, seems like about maxed on those with the current strat (maybe you can farsite the guard before you enter the door, and line it up so you hit the one on the dam in the distance as well...and also, laptop might be able to hit the last two.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #56 on:** October 03, 2003, 04:34:00 pm »

G5 A 0:29 - low decimal, but 28 would have to be perfect

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #57 on:** October 03, 2003, 08:05:00 pm »

Investigation 2:15

- 1:39(!) bot, pretty damn good for such a shitty bot

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 04, 2003, 01:16:00 am »

Hmm.. I've got a very sub 1:05 villa PA strat. Dammit! I want PD back

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #59 on:** October 04, 2003, 12:22:00 pm »

Investigation A 1:30 - I figured out how to get better bots with cheats on

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #60 on:** October 04, 2003, 12:24:00 pm »

Anyone have any tips on Attack Ship? I can't get elvis to complete, I have to wait for him to get into the room for him to complete.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 05, 2003, 02:11:00 am »

Go right at the choice and go fast. That's how it works on normal mode... are you doing this? should work.

57 Villa PA. Emulated (won't see my times page)... but it's surely about the time i'll get on normal mode, except more like 53 at least.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 05, 2003, 03:11:00 am »

Got a 59 vid on my computer. Only 6 megs

. Grab it off me on AIM.

edit: I'd just like to tell you how @#%$ annoying camtasia + project64 is - very @#%$ annoying. Also yeah, it's damn hard to aim the farsight with a mouse

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #63 on:** October 05, 2003, 10:37:00 am »

CI SA: 1:21
MBR SA: 1:21
Pelagic II PA: 1:45

Villa PA: 1:02

Matt's Villa PA strat works really good, thanks for the strat.

CI = first try, MBR = first try, P2 = first try.
etc.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #64 on:** October 05, 2003, 11:10:00 am »

Villa Agent: 1:02 :eek

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #65 on:** October 05, 2003, 11:41:00 am »

Matt, that's what I do but Elvis must not warp with slo-mo, had that same problem with investigation*hint* *hint* any ideas besides playing without slo-mo?

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #66 on:** October 05, 2003, 11:51:00 am »

I was going to do Attack Ship Agent one day as well and was getting very fast lifts (opening at like 34...but for some reason they weren't shutting til around 40). Still, even with ownage style skedar and strafing and stuff, elvis wouldn't complete, and finally i made it to the map room once and went back and he was always way far behind.
Ohh yea...

Villa SA: 1:06

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #67 on:** October 05, 2003, 02:00:00 pm »

Investigation A: 1:35
Investigation SA: 2:21
Investigation PA: 2:40
Extraction PA: 1:12

Yep, all of the Invest. were first tries...I had about a mid 56 bot on agent, and I had 1:39ish on SA and PA.
PA = teh scary. I was using super shield instead of invinc., and I came a hair away from killing myself with a remote mine, and it was only at the first computer room! So that pretty much made the rest of the run very scary, so I made sure to stay cloaked and not shoot.

Extraction PA = teh gay. I would be able to get about 1:09 if Carrol wouldn't die like a fruitcake. I have made it to the BG door at 1:00.10, and this run was mid 1:01, I believe...I did that part only with K7.
My theory for why he dies is:
If you go too fast, he warps. Since I do the bodyguard part with RL, i would imagine he warps somewhere near there, since he always dies.
If I get there slow at say, 1:02, and I do it with RL, he won't die. Fast = teh death.

Btw, to guarantee he doesn't die before that kill the first 2 guys with Superdragon grenades, then blow up the barriers and make sure those 2 die, and then blow up next to barriers and make sure those 2 die. Pull out farsight as you get in lift, and shoot the other 4 on the bottom floor.
Then aim up and shoot the girls; there is only 4, but the only one you need to worry about is the one on the left (there are 2 that are to the left...one is a floor above the other...get the top floor one).

Since you have to go to the console anyways, you just kill the girl above, and then shoot out the other 3 as you pass them...then when you wait for the lift, farsight the other 2 that are a floor above (next to each other in the same room).

Bah, well anyways, I hope that helps someone.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #68 on:** October 05, 2003, 04:06:00 pm »

You should be able to get 2:15-2:16 with a 1:39ish bot.

KillerSim7 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 05, 2003, 05:32:00 pm »

Ext SA - 1:13
Ext PA - 1:27

Hmm, I must be missing something if 1:12 is possible on PA. Or maybe I just suck that much? Yeah right, impossible in slo-mo.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #70 on:** October 05, 2003, 08:09:00 pm »

"You should be able to get 2:15-2:16 with a 1:39ish bot."

Yea, weird story behind that; I ran to the uplink and started it, but it made the beeping noise as if you disconnect and it said I disconnected...dunno why, but it did. So I had to wait for that to stop and then restart the uplink, costing me a good few seconds.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #71 on:** October 05, 2003, 08:11:00 pm »

Oh no! Travis is back! Oh yeah, almost forgot....

Maian SOS A 1:24
Attack Ship A 2:18
Villa A 1:01

pwned

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #72 on:** October 05, 2003, 08:28:00 pm »

Speaking of Extraction...

Extraction SA: 0:45

pwned

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #73 on:** October 05, 2003, 09:45:00 pm »

Chicago SA: 19 (18? How?)
Chicago PA: 19
Villa PA: 59

blah, nothing too great. Might work on lowering Extraction A/SA, and possibly getting 3 completions for Crash Site, and any other levels I haven't done yet.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 06, 2003, 01:56:00 am »

How foolish of me! As soon as nspd posted that extraction SA time the strat hit me! How obvious

dark0 - you must have used boosting for that villa A... should i take it boosting is allowed now? Maybe you said that and i didn't read it.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #75 on:** October 06, 2003, 05:06:00 am »

1:30 Infiltration PA (emulated)

Only big error was that i went through the hole, looked directly up to shoot the robot, went back to running... realised i was still ducked

That cost a bit. Max is probably 127.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #76 on:** October 06, 2003, 06:39:00 am »

1:24 Rescue A (emulated)

Lab guy was about 2/5 the way up the ramp and i fudged opening a door, but other than that it was nice. 25.6 lift.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #77 on:** October 06, 2003, 07:27:00 am »

Is he random for Rescue?
I always get there and have to run up the ramp and all the way down the first one before I get to him.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #78 on:** October 06, 2003, 04:50:00 pm »

I don't know, I stopped at 1:28 cause it was so ucked up. In reality the time can go much lower.

Crash Site PA 1:56

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #79 on:** October 06, 2003, 05:30:00 pm »

Extraction SA: 0:44

Will get 43 sometime, maybe 42 (it should be possible...)

And I got some more PRs and maybe a WR or two but I forgot what they were.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #80 on:** October 06, 2003, 05:57:00 pm »

Extraction SA: 0:43

After a few tries I got some 44's and stuff, it seemed like 43 would be hard...I thought it would have to be a high decimal finish. This was a .16 finish...and I could have done a few parts better, so I might try to get an insane 42. Well, not really insane, but very good.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #81 on:** October 06, 2003, 06:57:00 pm »

Well, look what we have here:

Extraction PA: 1:07!!

A very nice run, to say the least...with the exception of the second set of stairs, which I can't do for crap.
I made it to the BG door at a low 58(.20, I think). Just yesterday I considered low 1:00 to be very good. Actually hit the copter, which is sad...I have missed that thing so many times...I have no clue how, but I missed it 4 shots in a row with the LX a few runs before, and twice in a run with the farsight before that.

It was a 1:07.95, and thankfully it didn't round up (slow-mo = less rounding, I think I had a .98 finish on CI SA that didn't round up once).
Yep.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #82 on:** October 06, 2003, 08:04:00 pm »

Infiltration Agent: 1:08.60
Villa Perfect Agent: 0:56

These, combined with the various others from today/yesterday, should take us comfortably under 1:28:00.

By the way Dark0, are you ever going to change the Duel recourds to allow 2 on SA and PA? That would take off another 11 seconds, and it would really help us out.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #83 on:** October 06, 2003, 09:02:00 pm »

You have no idea how much I've tried, I've opened up every file the updater has and there is nothing on duel and sanity settings. There is, however, sanity settings for all GE levels with egyptian the only one with 3,6,9. I did change but but it does nothing. I will probably need to recompile the updater to get it to work and I don't have the equipment to do so.

Investigation SA 2:14

Chicago PA 0:19

Damn it, I would easily get 18 on this level but I have to WATCH the mine hit the door. I've have a bunch of failed 18s where the mine was there but I didn't watch it so it didn't complete. I'll get it later.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #84 on:** October 06, 2003, 09:54:00 pm »

You should be able to just remove the sanity line probably:

/* Final sanity check */
if( el[n].rec[j][st] < sanity[st][j] )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;
if( el[n].rec[j][st] >= MAX_TIME )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;

And:

/* Final sanity check */
if( el[n].rec[j][st] < sanity[st][j] )
el[n].rec[j][st] = UNFINISHED;

That's the only 2, they are located within the doelite.txt file. I'm not sure if it will work, but deleting those should do the job, I'm guessing.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #85 on:** October 06, 2003, 10:10:00 pm »

Nope, doesn't work, still doesn't let me put in less than the normal times.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 06, 2003, 11:08:00 pm »

1:27 Infiltration SA (emulated)

You guys want to except these times or not?

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #87 on:** October 07, 2003, 01:49:00 am »

2:22 Escape A (emulated)

55 Jon + Uber fast ending

3:12 Escape SA (emulated)

Ordinary really - 1:39 Jon

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #88 on:** October 07, 2003, 02:48:00 am »

45 P2 A (emulated)

I can take this to 44 with a proper system.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:49:00 am »

2:25 Rescue PA (emulated)

Guards didn't open the locked door to the lab guy until 5 seconds wait

2nd lift was only 27.5.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #90 on:** October 07, 2003, 09:21:00 am »

You ever gonna beat the GEE total time on pd with cheats yet?

Matt, it is "to accept"

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #91 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:04:00 pm »

Sorry Matt, it would be wrong to accept those times. It's only cheats so just get them when you get a cart. Do you have a vid of escape?

KillerSim7 · « **Reply #92 on:** October 07, 2003, 06:50:00 pm »

I'm at college now but I think I'll pwn mbr some more later tonight. I seem to suck at everything else.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #93 on:** October 07, 2003, 07:43:00 pm »

Rescue PA: 2:31

After Matt posted his time...I didn't realize the obvious strat. Then when I tried it...I tried farsight from the first lift, but for some strange reason, the objective failed....I wonder why?

Anyways, here is the rundown on gayness:
28.4ish lift closed.
Long wait for locked door.
Stuck going in that door.
Bad suit...was 4th set of lockers.
Stuck going out of locked doors (I went out opposite side I came in).
Bad last keycard guy...had to back up and shoot him again because he didn't die.

I think that's the only real mistakes that were made...
So I would say something around 2:22 (probably less..depends on how much I got stuck) is real.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #94 on:** October 07, 2003, 08:43:00 pm »

Rescue PA: 2:21

Very good run; the locked door was opened pretty quick, the suit was in the closest locker (although I bumped the walls pretty bad going through this part...not too much time lost from it, though).
The rest of the run was standard up til the first keycard; I missed punching the guy who talks at the locked door so the tranquie with the keycard started heading to the back of the room, so I lost a second or something from him not being as close. Then I got a bit stuck a little ways out of their on a guard. Bad last keycard guy as well, as usual I didn't kill him and had to back up and shoot again to get the keycard; could have eeked out a 2:18 at best.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #95 on:** October 07, 2003, 10:27:00 pm »

Rescue SA: 2:18 :rolleyes

AF1 SA: 1:21

Maian SOS A: 1:24 :eek

Blew a 1:24-1:25 on MBR PA as well, it turned out to be another 1:27...I'm going to at least tie that tomorrow, and possibly tie/beat SA as well.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 07, 2003, 10:37:00 pm »

It's okay that you don't accept the times.

Josh, i had 2:20 Rescue PA (emulated) before you posted that 2:21 :lol

... waited 6 seconds for the door to open too

1:43 P2 PA (emulated)... Damn that was frustrating. Getting all the way to the speech skip and failing

I have a Air Force 1 PA strat too

edit: What's so :eek

about 1:24 Maian A?

KillerSim7 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 07, 2003, 10:54:00 pm »

NSPD you blew a 1:24-1:25 MBR PA run? :lol

MBR PA - 1:21 pwned

MBR A - 1:17 (I've had a better cass without the slow motion $:\$ )

I tried SA but had a stupid slow cass and didn't feel like trying again. Might play some more later.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #98 on:** October 08, 2003, 07:47:00 am »

Well, my Cass usually stops 2 times at the least, plus I don't skip speeches.

Do you have to wait for the second lift? The one that the chick calls up when you are in the first lift?

1:21 = really good. If that's possible, then 1:14 would probably be possible on SA, and I'm guessing around 1:11 on Agent.

KillerSim7 · « **Reply #99 on:** October 08, 2003, 08:42:00 am »

I didn't skip the speeches, and I also had to wait for the 2nd lift a little bit.

As to your guesses for what is possible, that makes me laugh. You don't know much about this level do you?

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