Author Topic: Need help on Defection (Read 838 times)

DYM · « **on:** October 09, 2005, 11:30:00 am »

right guys, ive been playing Defection SA/PA trying the glitch, but i don't have any idea how you fall in the place where you throw the final ECM mine and then exit the level.

Can anyone explain me how you land there or is it just luck?

(Edit) - sorry if i got bad english

Illu · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2005, 11:56:00 am »

Yeah many find that strat hard to perform, for me it was actually like the first I learned when seriously trying for fast times on PD because I thought it was fun.

When falling down you have nothing to rely on but feeling for how many secs you have to hold down the buttons or stick to get into the right place. Try doing the safer method first, go to the corner of the building and fall from there, watch YEs 1:27 or 1:29 or some of my slower runs like 1:38 or 1:35.

When falling from the corner you should run forward for like 2 sec and then strafe right for about 2 sec. Hard to say exact, you just have to try out the falling over and over again until you have the right feel for about how you should do it.

You'll probably be messing up a few runs first because of missing the landing.

Matt-Cook1 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2005, 12:59:00 am »

Your second guess was correct; it's just luck. Walk off the beam/out of the building and there's a small chance that you'll land in the perfect position.

DYM · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2005, 05:52:00 am »

Where can i download YE's 127 From?

Wabs · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2005, 06:14:00 am »

You can download all PD vids here :

All Pd vids for free

Oh wait ... no, that's not the correct link.
Sorry, I'm a noob, I haven't been there for more than 5 years so it's pretty hard to find out where you can download PD vids.
Maybe some staff member will know.

DYM · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2005, 07:11:00 am »

Don't you think they delete the old vids?

OO · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2005, 01:02:00 am »

Uploaded it for you: Your Eliteness - Defection - PA - 127.wmv

DYM · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2005, 06:39:00 am »

What Difference is there in that vid and Illu's vid. It's Just the same.

btw, How long did 126 take you Illu?

DYM · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2005, 07:19:00 am »

is there a vid of 145?

DYM · « **Reply #9 on:** October 11, 2005, 07:21:00 am »

is there a vid of a pr between 140 - 155?
i'd like to download that.

bcks · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2005, 07:33:00 am »

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What Difference is there in that vid and Illu's vid. It's Just the same.

Its 1 sec faster.

OO · « **Reply #11 on:** October 11, 2005, 07:56:00 am »

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is there a vid of a pr between 140 - 155?

There are Bryan's 1:35, GoldenVinze's 1:37 and Taka's 1:37... Unfortunately none between 1:40-1:55 though (according to the proven rankings) $:\$

Illu · « **Reply #12 on:** October 11, 2005, 09:07:00 am »

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btw, How long did 126 take you Illu?

That's quite interesting actually since I went from having no idea at all of how to do the glitches to getting 1:26. I probably spent about 20h before I felt I had a shot at sub 1:30, then I started doing the faster falling method and got 1:26.

The difference between YEs 1:27 and my 1:26 is really only the ending, I fall down instantly without stopping anywhere between and save a sec. On Defection you can still get only like 1:40 even on a good run if you're unlucky with the programmer, sometimes he's just slow at walking to the computer.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #13 on:** October 11, 2005, 09:32:00 am »

Uhh... I do have a 1:26 vid...

Matt-Cook1 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 11, 2005, 09:58:00 am »

It's @#%$ cake. Stand on the beam facing the building, walk forward for so many counts, let go, strafe right for so many counts, see if you get it, try again if you fail. You're not going to get anywhere seeing other people do it. You need to learn how many of your counts you need to move forward and right for.

DYM · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2005, 10:13:00 am »

Thanks Matt but how many counts, 5?
Anyway i would like to see another vid of 126

and 137 too, if you don't mind

OO · « **Reply #16 on:** October 11, 2005, 11:43:00 am »

Alright: Bosshardt - Defection - PA - 135.avi

For more videos I suggest that you use AIM and get them from various people's getfile. Wouter has the most, and I have more than 600 PD videos shared myself!

Edit: Noticed that you actually wanted a 1:37 vid, sorry my bad...

Illu · « **Reply #17 on:** October 11, 2005, 01:15:00 pm »

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Uhh... I do have a 1:26 vid...

Yeah I just recommended watching your 1:27 to see the safer falling method, though some might as well want to learn the fastest way right away.

With the fastest falling method like in YEs or my 1:26 you just need to back up, fall down some and soon start right fast strafing and you should end up pretty close to the correct spot.

DYM · « **Reply #18 on:** October 11, 2005, 01:24:00 pm »

hmm, whats your screen name dark otto?

Wabs · « **Reply #19 on:** October 11, 2005, 01:27:00 pm »

It's DarkOttoPD.
Use this list to find everyone's aim.
thevectorman.net/comeasur/aim.html

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #20 on:** October 11, 2005, 02:19:00 pm »

Vincent Rolin - Defection Perfect Agent 1.45.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.49.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.51.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.55.wmv

as for how to do it - TRIAL AND ERROR; difficult if you can't come up with that by yourselves.

Boss · « **Reply #21 on:** October 11, 2005, 07:22:00 pm »

PA landing on the end comp is heaps easier than SA...

DYM · « **Reply #22 on:** October 12, 2005, 06:15:00 am »

Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.49.wmv
would be good to see.

DYM · « **Reply #23 on:** October 12, 2005, 06:16:00 am »

Vincent Rolin - Defection Perfect Agent 1.45.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.49.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.51.wmv
Wouter Jansen - Defection Perfect Agent 1.55.wmv

do these work? if so, 149 would be good to see.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2005, 06:28:00 am »

why wouldn't they "work"?

DYM · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2005, 06:54:00 am »

Can i see a 149 or 151?

OO · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2005, 07:01:00 am »

You can get them from his getfile bke16.....

DYM · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2005, 07:40:00 am »

Thanks Guys, It works.

Anyway, can anyone help me how to land in or near cassandra's office?

Illu · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2005, 08:23:00 am »

To fall outside Casandras office you need to land on the door first after waiting out the cinema a bit for it to be open. When on the door walk just a little bit forward while crounching and then press R fast once to stand up while taking a sharp right turn and speed strafing to the right.

I don't know any better way to say it, now the rest is up to you, watch vids ofcourse and play play play it over and over again to understand exactly what you need to do, develop a feeling for how to do it and remember, no one can do it every time.

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Author Topic: Need help on Defection (Read 838 times)