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JugadorJ3

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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2003, 03:47:00 am »
anywhere from 11 to 16 will get you the record if you play the rest well.

The first 10 seconds hardly make or break you in this level.

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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2003, 04:00:00 am »
so you're saying i should go for 11 . . . ;)

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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2003, 01:32:00 pm »
If you really had a 5.35 Jonathan Wouter, it means that 8 seconds is probably possible...

I got 9.95 with a 6.25 Jon, so if I would have had a 5.35 Jon it would have been 9.05, which is dangerously close to 8.99 :eek

It would be cool if someone got it.

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« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2003, 06:29:00 pm »
no it wouldnt be cool.

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« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2003, 07:31:00 pm »
yes it was clearly 5.35. oh man.. just the tought if I would have gotten 8.. *dreams*
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« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2003, 12:21:00 am »
I'm debating on whether or not I should try for the gay of all gay :09 second Duel PA. I've got an :11 right now. . .
HMMMMM. . . *ponders*

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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2003, 12:30:00 am »
I don't think you should attempt 09 yet.  It's most likely beyond your patience atm as well as your skill.  Even unskillful can get that time I suppose, but the luck for someone unskilled would be incredibly high I would imagine.

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« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2003, 12:46:00 am »
You may be surprised.
I have mastered the art of cranking Trent in the chest with the magnum. As well as the first guard with the Falcon. I just suck horribly against Jon. . . On my :11 I hit everything perfect except for jon, which I screwed up big on.

And you may find it funny that on my literal first run EVER on duel PA I took down Trent perfectly with the magnum. . . that was just luck, btw.

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« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2003, 02:10:00 am »
:09 isn't that hard if you're good at trent (which I'm not), and you know what you're doing. Once you have the right strat down it shouldn't take too long. Just find out the TTs you need and don't take anything less. :/

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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2003, 07:08:00 am »
My 9 was the best ever, nailed trent right in the eyeball with the magnum :)

-Karl

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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2003, 08:14:00 am »
Hell , was I the only chump to use Falcon 2 to kill Trent for 0:09 ?

IF KillerSim or Shade or Lec or anyone with good MBR times read that post , maybe they could post some TTs for any difficulty ? I hardly believe 1:23 on A possible (actually I do belive the time , but I don't think I could get it) , and a crazy thought has been growing on my mind : PAL has been screwed up on this level.Of course coz of the lifts , but maybe also coz of Cass.When I see the PAL records (1:31 1:32 1:37) and the WRs (1:23-1:28-1:30) , I just feel like...hum...ashamed of being PAL :D

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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2003, 11:03:00 am »
I don't know, but the only thing I have noticed that it's like impossible to get a good Cass if you skip both her speeches. I have no idea if the people who got 1:28 on SA skip them both but if I would have done that and used the door trick on my SA run it would had been easily sub 1:30.

My A run was pretty damn sloppy so that's a really weak PAL record. No door trick here either.

I just saw that Genisics had 1:37 on PA after you had mentioned it Vinze. Damn australian hoe...
Anyway, I actually find this level hard for various reason and I'm very pissed that I was screwed of an 1:35 or so back when I was going for my current 1:38 time. Again, a weak record despite usage of the door trick.

I  actually hooked up my N64 the other day but all of my 3 controllers have a really sucky analog stick and it's like impossible to aim and therefore extremely hard to get any decent time. I might try and play some more and maybe I can get used to the sloppyness.
In that case I would go for a better Maian SOS A time (1:40), MBR A time (1:28?) and MBR PA time (1:35?).

We'll see how it turns out :rolleyes

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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2003, 11:04:00 am »
You listed the WR's wrong.  I just got 1:27 SA but the damn WR topic is closed.  I wish those dumbasses would quit posting duel times in there.  Anyway, want some TTs eh?  Since it should be fresh in my mind...  Special agent TTs

Plant explosive - 7.00-7.50

First lift closes - 13.50-14.00

2nd lift closes - 36.8-37.5

Disarm Cass - 43.2-44.5 (I got 1:28 with a 45.88 disarming once)

Cass goes through door at the top of the winding ramp - 1:00-1:03

Cass begins to go up the last ramp - 1:17-1:20

Level ends - 1:24-1:28

These are probably not the best TTs but I'd say they are good to go by.  All the fastest ones that I put I have managed, except of course for the very last one.  That is just my theoretical target.


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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2003, 12:17:00 pm »
wow if one is good at Trent, I'm not sure but I got Jon most of the time. Jon is like supercake. I like killing him. Right in the head. *hears lovely dying Jon sound* I think I got him like 1 out of 3 tries I got to him.

as for PA, I don't think we should bother to argue who has the fastest, mine has no errors in it, yours maybe very small ones. Because of frames and framerates and all it's pretty much impossible to know what were the exact TTs. And which were the exact ending times to the 2nd decimal. Also keep in mind that probably upto 0.10 isn't showns at the end, maybe even more. Also inbetween there are 0.01s going by which aren't visible. I just studied my run again. Pause at 0.10 very clearly. Kill at 0.80. 2.35 going in 2nd round, but when I strafe to Jon, when I start to move it immediately goes to 3.00, then 3.01, then 3.03. I suppose the timer starts sometime earlier than you see it start. Even if it was 2.85 or 2.95 then the rest must have been amazing.. Just let me analyse. I had 5.35 Jon, but timer again when it started it was 6.00 even though the 6 looked like 5 at frames after. So I saw 5.35. Then after killing Trent, 9.00. Then dammit I just figured it out. My bad guys. it then shows somehow 9.71 and some 9.8 blurry @#%$ and 9.90 probably. I know why Kar's was faster. If it was and my eyes don't lie to me. He doesn't go all the way to the wall to Kill Jon. He goes about halfway only and just had like the fastest Jon coming out of there. I usually have a slow Jon that I can only just hit him as I arrive at the wall, which make it that I can cake him so well. I just have to shoot when I pass the wall.. Almost guaranteed (warranteed for the Brits;) ) hit.. It happens way more often so I'm not going to hit MY OWN head anymore by thinking of these TTs.. In conclusion I don't trust decimals anymore they're too unclear. And to sum it up: I PROBABLY had 2.95 5.95 and 9.90. I suck, Thanks. It was a perfect run nonetheless with my slow Jon. Thank you was nice analysing.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2003, 01:45:00 pm »
I can usually get Trent every other time. As for Jon I just strafe at the wall thing shooting like a crazy person.

Oh, Killersim, could you post some TTs for MBR Agent? I could
really use them.

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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2003, 02:05:00 pm »
Holy God , Disarming Cass at around 43 on SA looks damn impossible for PAL.i'm not very good , but it's all right if I disarm her at low 47 on Agent...|I
Well SZ , good thing to see you back.My pad is gay too , but I play 1.2 so for top speed it's not very important.

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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2003, 02:26:00 pm »
Hmm, I haven't played agent in a while.  Just subtract 2 seconds from all my TTs.  Like, 2nd lift closes at :35, and disarm cass at 41.xx, etc.

Oh, and disarming cass at 43.anything on SA is exactly what I am for since I'm going for WRs and such.  The ending after disarming her could be as fast as 41.xx seconds I'm guessing.  PAL or no.  So with a :47 disarming then 1:28 or 1:29 should be possible, but it wouldn't be easy.  I wish I could play PAL once to see how much the disadvantage is.

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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2003, 04:06:00 pm »
All right. Thanks a lot man.

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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2003, 06:05:00 pm »
I just played some agent (I got 1:26 on my first try.  :lol ) and I found out something.  The TTs ARE 2 seconds different up until cass, but the ending time differs by more.  I am almost certain that a fast cass moves faster on Agent than on SA.  If true, it is an interesting discovery.  It would also explain why the SA WR is so far from the A WR when you can get to cass merely 2 seconds later.

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« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2003, 07:46:00 pm »
Anyone have some WR TTs for:

Ruins All
Crash Site A/SA
Chicago All

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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2003, 11:45:00 pm »
Forget about it.  You're not getting any records.

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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2003, 12:53:00 am »
shove it renem, i just got 1:26 crash site in 5 minutes and even if im not going for records it will help me find where im going wrong. why dont you play smartass.

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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2003, 02:39:00 am »
Why don't you watch some vids, dumbass?:lol

Besides, my first-try-Crash Site SA time is probably better than your best time ever.:p

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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2003, 03:05:00 am »
Actually on PAL you probably can disarm her at 45.xx on A , which means that *theorically* , 1:27 is possible.But I guess nobody is gonna do it.
BTW I just got 1:34 , the run was almost all right with major suckage just before the stairs : the guard was just in front of the open door and I didn"t dare shooting at him , fearing to hit Cass..So she got stuck on him at least 2 secs.
In ccl , 1:29 PAL A would be , IMO , a good standard.

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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2003, 04:17:00 am »
what can i say.. pwned.

i'll post good stuff later.

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« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2003, 04:59:00 am »
Matt, I'll give you a deal. You send me the NTSC stuff ASAP, and I'll be too involved in that to beat your Attack Ship time.

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« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2003, 05:12:00 am »
Hum sub 3:30 on such a gay level is a good standard I guess...YourEliteness you may suffer by trying to tie/untie that time.But why not after all ? You seem to be skilled enough.

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« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2003, 06:31:00 am »
Karl is going to beat it anyway. Don't doubt it.

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« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2003, 08:03:00 am »
Yeah, I use 1.2 too Vinze. But the anlog stick makes it hard to hit things like the bed in Maian SOS. It's also pretty uncomfortable to look around with.

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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2003, 09:20:00 am »
Yeah , and I guess it's hard to find a new one somewhere on a shop...That's too bad , N64 is supposed to be forever...

Cass oh yeah Cass I will dream of you tonight for sure...

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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2003, 10:22:00 pm »
Way to go Matt.  I knew you'd get the record if you set your mind to it.

Hmm, and Goldenvinze, keep playing MBR please.  I'd love to see a PAL player get a decent PAL time for the level.  Or even to be on the leaderboard.  The level gets less frustrating after you master guiding cass.

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« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2003, 03:26:00 am »
Yeah , I couldn't play yesterday , today I work all day long but tomorrow be sure to see at least one new PAL record.

I watched Fight Club yesterday , I love that movie.I'm writing a sequel , I'll call it "Fight Club 2".Here are some dialogs in excusivity for ya :

"If I had a tumor , I'd name it Cass.Cass."
"Cass you liar!You Big tourist I need this (the PAL record) so get out (on the helipad , and quickly please)."

Oh wait...I'm becoming insane...

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« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2003, 04:51:00 am »
I play pd again on friday, it will take me a few hours to get my skill back but I will take the attack ship pa record down to 3:15 I assure you.

I'll also just improve me escape times and get some of my other records on tape like g5 and villa and maian and crap like that.

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« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2003, 10:04:00 am »
That's the great!!!!:D :D
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« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2003, 06:24:00 pm »
"I'll also just improve me escape times"

finally someone will beat the Escape wr's.. so i'll be motivated to beat it again.

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« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2003, 04:23:00 am »
I have no intention of beating the wr's but it won't entirely be out of the question.

-Karl

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« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2003, 08:31:00 am »
I got MBR A 1:23.

The run was good for the most part.  I wouldn't say it's better than my other wr's.  If it is it's only by a small amount.  Earlier I had a 1:22 that got messed up.  I probably won't go for it though even though I can get it.  lol.  I need to get a tape in soon before somebody decides I'm taking too much time.

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« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2003, 07:26:00 pm »
I'd need some AF1 A TTs for an 0:55 please.

I think I'm fast enough and just need a good prez for the ending, but I'd like some feedback.

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« Reply #88 on: June 12, 2003, 11:52:00 pm »
tt's for 0:55

cutscene - around 0:26 (i got 0:26.05)
start pushing pres - 0:46

those are the ones i remember.. the crucial part of the level is when u push the pres.. i got many good runs, but screwed up the end, and only got 0:56's. my 0:55 was average, tho. watch some vid to see where the pres is when u start pushing him..

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« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2003, 12:28:00 am »
I have 1:23/1:35/2:13 for Crash Site. Anyone have some WR TTs?

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« Reply #90 on: June 13, 2003, 01:19:00 am »
So you're the bastard who stole a point from my Crash Site PA time :p

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« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2003, 04:33:00 pm »
Actually, I'm the bastard who stole a point from ALL your Crash Site times;)

TTs anyone???

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« Reply #92 on: June 13, 2003, 06:00:00 pm »
So I got 0:55 finally, normal run, normal prez. I found a way to get a normal prez about 70% of the time, but I can't get fast ones.

TTs for my run:
1st pause: 3.75
Cutscene: 26.25
Door after mine: 31.4
End: 55.?? (picked up a k7)

As for crash site A:

obj 1 complete disappears: 0:18
Into cave: 0:33.3
hit trent: 0:46
see prez from top of tunnel: 0:59
end: 1:20 (+2 = 1:22)

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« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2003, 01:03:00 am »
TTs for CI 1:30...

4.98 - door 1
12.36 - door 2
13.55 - gun 1 activated
17.91 - gun 2 activated
21.70 - door 4
23.53 - gun 3 activated
34.63 - half way up ramp
42.9x - lift 1 closed
49.08 - guard 1 hit
49.45 - guard 2 hit
54.4x - lift 2 closed
59.9x - door to RC-P120 room
1.01.88 - obj 2 (lost several tenths before getting to computer...)
1.08.80 - half way down ramp
1.14.96 - data uplink
1.30.91 - completion

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« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2003, 06:21:00 am »
TTs for my 1:40.06 Infiltration SA

12.9 - black walkway 1st time
29.8 - black walkway 2nd time
41 - shield
59 - lift press to shut
114 - bottom of ramp
125 - lift shuts on me, i don't press it
140.06 - finish

slow parts are shield to lift press (1st), and lift shut (2nd) to end.

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« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2003, 06:58:00 am »
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i see^^^

to repeat

quit when cinema says "any questions? no? good." GO
do stuff
you need to run out almost past the 1st lift to punch the techie
press the lift button Agent style
only press the last lift if you're at the bottom of the ramp earlier than 114. otherwise you'll probably open it as it closes or something:(

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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2003, 06:56:00 pm »
For the last time, ANY TTs FOR CRASH SITE A/SA/PA??????

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« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2003, 07:21:00 pm »
Speaking of tt's I need some for PII A & SA

For SA, I saw from vids:
3rd door: 12
OBj 3: ? like 27 or so
Speech Skip: 37
...that's all i could make out

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« Reply #98 on: June 14, 2003, 10:34:00 pm »
Dman posted some TT's for crash site agent

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As for crash site A:

obj 1 complete disappears: 0:18
Into cave: 0:33.3
hit trent: 0:46
see prez from top of tunnel: 0:59
end: 1:20 (+2 = 1:22)


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« Reply #99 on: June 16, 2003, 10:41:00 pm »
iggy, since im playing P2 SA now, i can give u some wr tt's.. those are the best i got.

2nd door after 2nd alarm (the one near another door) - 0:12.9
door to moonpool - 22.3
speech skip (1st) - 0:38.5
door to generator - 0:49 (most like 0:50)
door to moon pool (on the way back) - 1:46.2 for 1:54

if u watch lecmasta's 1:54, u'll be like "omg how did he get 1:54?".. im still trying to find what the hell he did so special that gave him the wr.