Author Topic: Invest 1:30 (Read 3136 times)

Boss · « **on:** October 21, 2003, 01:13:00 pm »

Is it just me or are a lot of people just claiming the time out of no where? (who is Dark Otto, Easton never posted it)

Which Leeter Am I · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2003, 02:27:00 pm »

didn't dark otto claim 0:18 surface 1 a before getting ban><()/2|)?

Djie · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2003, 05:15:00 pm »

No idea about Otto.

Easton is a brazilian, GregK saw him a couple of times. I believe his times are legits.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2003, 06:54:00 pm »

Whether they're lying or not, it's so unfair that I've spent at least 24 hours on this level with no 49 bots. Then they go and claim 1:30 without posting it, or any proof. Didn't even tell us they were playing the level.

How often are 49 bots meant to happen? I keep having nightmares that I get a 49 bot, but the Camspy didn't take the photo. Then find out at the end when I fail a 1:30.

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2003, 08:24:00 pm »

You have nightmares about PD? Wow, time to stop playing buddy! :rollin

Which Leeter Am I · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2003, 08:41:00 pm »

you do know you can pick up the bots right?

then it comes whenever you want it to come

[edit]1:17 investigation a
picked up the bot and threw it at the security door, blowing a big hole in it

bcks · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2003, 12:34:00 am »

Maybe 1:30 is cakeish with a awesome bot, but still people who don't post there friggen wr's are gay.

Let alone post at all.

Jimbo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2003, 12:36:00 am »

I once had a 0:48 bot, no joke.

YE: I've dreamt about GE plenty of times.

OO · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2003, 06:20:00 am »

Why would my time be fake??? I have played PD from the first day it was released, and I joined the Elite in late 2000!
I belive in honest real times and I would never post any fake times on my page!
Unfortunately I did not tape my run but I can probably snap a picture of it with my friend's digital camera then I can prove to you that my time is real

Oh, and about my Surface 1 time... It was 1:18 all the time but I had writted the name of the level wrong. I had "Surface I" which made the update program think that the number 1 of my time heard to Surface 1. So, it thought that it was 0:18 (which is impossible to get).
It was a big mistake and I'm really sorry about it.

I'm a PAL player from Finland.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2003, 06:28:00 am »

PAL!?! Hey, I guess it's possible...

Oh great, now I know a 49 bot comes once every 3 years. Wonderful. I should have 1:30 by the time I'm 19. Can't wait.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2003, 07:20:00 am »

peopel still don't understand that the only proof is video proof..

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2003, 07:29:00 am »

We'd be foolish to believe somebody got a 49 bot on PAL.

Let us ban him at once.

OO · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2003, 11:56:00 am »

Yeah your right Wouter... Video proof is the only real proof but what do you mean with that? A video of the whole run or just a video showing the stats page with the time (is that enough for proof)?

Or is it ok to only capture a video where I'm on the mission select screen and then click on Investigation where it will show my time? Otherwise I have to try get the 1:30 time again which is not that easy

By the way there is not a video of a 1:30 on the Elite, is there? Only Bryan's 1:31 run...?

Boss · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2003, 11:59:00 am »

Video proof is taping the whole run from start to finish with the end time on there. Yeah, 1:31 is the fastest vid online despite 9 (10 with Shade) people having the time on the rankings.

OO · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2003, 12:13:00 pm »

Alright then I will try to tape the whole run but it's gonna take some time before I get it on tape... Because I have to get it once again and it took so long time to get it in the first place (months or even a year of trying that is), but I'll try

I have managed to get 1:31 and 1:32 several times, it isn't enough to get 1:31 taped is it? How have you guys then prooved it when there is not an 1:30 tape on the Elite? Hmm...

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2003, 12:30:00 pm »

That's the point of this topic.. we haven't seen ANY proof for ANY 1:30 invest agent.

OO · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2003, 12:42:00 pm »

Then the "official" WR for this stage should be 1:31 not 1:30...

Djie · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2003, 03:43:00 pm »

Well Zeebo has a videotape from SixteenPD (not sure of the guy) with a 1:30 on it. He just never captured it. So he's like the only one with proof for it. I, for one, never taped Inves. sadly. Disco/Paragon has been eyewitnesses.... I don't consider that proof. But yeah, only Sixteen's WR should stay on the page since he's the only one who taped it. But it won't happen cuz if so a lot of WRs should go.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2003, 03:47:00 pm »

"We'd be foolish to believe somebody got a 49 bot on PAL.

Let us ban him at once. "

Matt, if you are referring to "Dark Otto," then you are making a horrible assumption, seeing as he never posted the time of his bot in the first place, maybe he got a 46 bot but did a bad ending?

Anyways, 50-51 bots aren't hard to get...but I'm still wondering, what is a good finish time? I heard like 40.6 is good, so that would mean a low 50 would just barely dick out a 1:30 if you are lucky. And since Jim got a 48 bot...even if it was a high one, a 1:29 would easily be possible, probably 1:28.

Djie · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2003, 04:01:00 pm »

40.6 sounds right to me. And yes 1:29 would be "easily" possible if anyone pulls out a 48 bot.

Quiet Bol · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2003, 04:53:00 pm »

I always thought Lanky got a 47 or 47.5 on his 1:30.

Anyway, I just got a new PD cart recently so I'll have to remember to check my Invest bots...

youseinthehouse · « **Reply #21 on:** October 22, 2003, 09:43:00 pm »

Sounds like a proof call is in the works. even though they don't make any sound.

Jimbo · « **Reply #22 on:** October 22, 2003, 10:33:00 pm »

Kind of off subject, but...

How come no one made a SINGLE MOVE to demand proof from Pericious P claiming 1:52 Infil PA? He posted it, no one ever gave a damn...did he show proof without anyone knowing or something?

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 23, 2003, 12:24:00 am »

Firstly, nspd... If assuming 49 is horrible, assuming better is worse. I didn't really get your post anyway... There is just no perceivable way one would get a 49 bot on a PAL, or even 50s every so often.

To do with Pern... I believe him, but we may as well request proof. He's proven himself as a good player, and has always had an interest in the level. It would be fairly silly to not request proof of a great time based on that though. ANYONE can lie. I proved that

OO · « **Reply #24 on:** October 23, 2003, 02:08:00 am »

Yes 1:29 should be possible because my time was 1:30.2 or 1:30.3 and my run was not 100% perfect I lost some time on one of last doors... I did probably loose the time needed for 1:29.9

ParagonX9 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 23, 2003, 02:49:00 am »

Cry... My time is on tape, thanks.

Neo · « **Reply #26 on:** October 23, 2003, 02:59:00 am »

OMFG Paragon posted! Kewl!

Anyway, shouldn't be wasting valuable posts, but if you're going to ban one person for not having a tape of 1:30, you must ban EVERYONE that doesn't have some kind of video proof. You can't let some slip by and some not, no matter who they are...

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2003, 03:45:00 am »

You know it doesn't work like that Neo. We'd far sooner ban a lower ranked player than ban say, Phil for not proving the same time.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2003, 04:14:00 am »

I have like 1 video of Pern. maybe few more. from the old days.

anyway, hey Ben! we're aching for an invest agent 1:30 vid, help us out!

Southward · « **Reply #29 on:** October 23, 2003, 07:23:00 am »

PP posted TTs so I'm guessing he has it on tape.

Lanky007 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 28, 2003, 02:40:00 pm »

ok, i have a 1:30.68ish vid. im not completely sure of the decimal. gimme an address. and if i ever have time or get un-lazy for an hour and find that tape, i might send it. 49.49 bot i had according to the big screen tv replay. i have had low 48, mid-high 47 bots before. 1:29 is definetly possible, 1:28 would take extreme skillz, so i dunno about that one. if u ever get a 47 bot, please do urself a favor, pause the game, turn of the tv, and go for a half hour long walk. then continue the mission. human nerves cant handle that kinda pressure!

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2003, 03:10:00 pm »

they can't?
talk about b1 agent where you have the best run ever, only left to do is the final warp, and you can't even pause!

not too good of an example, but I'm pretty nervous and still play pretty well, but it gets harder to control, yes.

Lanky007 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 28, 2003, 03:43:00 pm »

man, i get so nervous when i get a sub 49 bot, i can basically feel my heart pounding. i start shakin, palms get sweaty, tough to hold controller, begin to mess up by getting stuck on gay guards who happen to feel gay and kneel down right in front of ur path with their gay selves. its already bad enough that ur nervous, but do they have to be gay on the good bots too? yes! yes they do! i dont play well when nervous, i open and close doors instead of just opening them, i press B too soon and the door wont open, i decide to run into the side of a wall rather through a wide open door, my left thumb decides it hates the control stick and lets it go, i feel like im holding the controller in my hand for the first time ever and dont know what to do. i could go on and on. that level has freakin traumatized me! i should write a book on staying sane when playin inv a or somethin. in conclusion, i envy u wouter!

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2003, 05:27:00 pm »

Not to mention Bunker 1 takes a mere 17 seconds.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2003, 06:31:00 pm »

not to mention I said "not too good of an example".. there are LOADS more examples I could give.. that was just the first thing that popped up

Dark0Perfection · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2003, 10:57:00 pm »

I know, I was kind of being sarcastic. I guess I forgot the

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Bizichyld · « **Reply #36 on:** November 06, 2003, 12:49:00 am »

What I'm wondering is why no one's broken this record when there seems to be such a large range of skill between the players that have it. No offense to Lanky or Bornkilla ('cause they had it before the cart factor was known), but I'd think Paragon, EG, Randy, or Karl would have beaten it considering how long it's been the WR. What's up with that?

As for "a lot of people claiming this time out of nowhere," you only mentioned Easton and Otto, which are the only guys anyone would have a reason to question. Easton never posts anything, so, meh. Two people is not an unbelievable number in my opinion. I'd be more skeptical of the swarm of defection :06-claimers (probably just 'cause I can't get it

).

Jimbo · « **Reply #37 on:** November 06, 2003, 02:07:00 am »

Lanky: HUGE ditto! Sometimes after a really good completion I can SEE my heart pounding!

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** November 06, 2003, 12:34:00 pm »

The reason the top players cannot / have not beat 1:30 is probably because of their playing style. Getting fast bots seems to deal with how you play; as far as I know, just running their as fast as you can is luck. However, if you do it the way I do, which involves rather noobish tactics, will get you some good bots a lot more consistently. So, maybe those other guys (Easton, Otto) got it with faster bots...like, say, 47. They might just not have the skill to get a faster ending. Maybe they got 42 finishes, or 43...
Whereas, I'm assuming people like Paragon and Disco probably just got 49-low 50 bots and did good finishes. But, since they probably do the start different, they get a smaller amount of fast bots, and probably just don't want to keep trying since it makes the level seem very luck dependant.

I remember when I just joined, I talked about how I got 50 bots a lot...Renem said he hated me because he couldn't get those ever. It seems that the bot is affected by how you play or what you do.

ShadowZero64 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 06, 2003, 12:59:00 pm »

I think that theory was brought up about 3 years ago.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #40 on:** November 06, 2003, 08:37:00 pm »

So you're saying I should:

Use 1.1
Turn on Hi-Res
Turn on language filter
Turn on paintball mode
Pause a lot
Try to miss everyone I shoot at
Only speed strafe on long stretches
Use the CMP as soon as I get one
Never use a second function

...Any others?

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #41 on:** November 06, 2003, 11:47:00 pm »

Nope...
But all I'm saying is, the bot time is definitely not random if you know what you are doing.

JugadorJ3 · « **Reply #42 on:** November 07, 2003, 03:32:00 am »

Tell us your strategies, please.

Bizichyld · « **Reply #43 on:** November 10, 2003, 11:15:00 pm »

Hmm, looks like someone may have broken it after all. Congrats Dark0. 4th longest lasting WR.

PDplum · « **Reply #44 on:** November 11, 2003, 10:55:00 am »

i played this level like a bitch last night. never beat 53.8 bot. GAH tips people.!

Lanky007 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 11, 2003, 02:31:00 pm »

my mouth is watering. *drowns in pool of spit, gets reincarnated as the bot*

bot: u fools! how dare u try and solve my deep and dark mysteries which only lanky had came even close to solving a couple years back. dont even think about searching through old posts and reading about many of the theories about me! *decides to move in slow motion*

anywayz, we reached the conclusion, that "who cares!?" thats what conclusion u will reach too if u play this level non-stop trying to figure anything out. there were some interesting topics from a year or two back on this issue. most of them were started by me, seeing as how i used to be obsessed with it. i had even posted the EXACT things i did before that 49 bot on the 1:30 run.

after searching for a few minutes, here is something from the past for ur viewing pleasure.

april fool
pub20.ezboard.com/fperfec...=356.topic

strat
pub20.ezboard.com/fperfec...=194.topic

bot talk
pub20.ezboard.com/fperfec...=118.topic

my 1:30
pub20.ezboard.com/fperfec...D=27.topic

SamSim · « **Reply #46 on:** November 11, 2003, 02:57:00 pm »

The future is only accepting complete videos as proof.

vitor · « **Reply #47 on:** November 11, 2003, 08:59:00 pm »

NSPD, Easton got 1:30 with a mid 49 bot.. he's my friend, i know him, and he's got the skills.. think twice before calling someone a n00b.

Not-so-Perfect-Dark · « **Reply #48 on:** November 11, 2003, 10:02:00 pm »

First of all, I never said he was a "n00b." Second of all, I was assuming, since he has not been mentioned much, that he had not as much skills as some of the top players. Using this assumption, I basically just said maybe he got a faster bot and a slower finish. I guess he might have fit in with the other two people I used for examples, as I said they may have got slower bots but faster finishes, as you said this person did.

vitor · « **Reply #49 on:** November 12, 2003, 05:12:00 pm »

n00b = "They might just not have the skill to get a faster ending"

but yea i got ur point of view so it's ok.. it's just that he's my friend and i had to defend him.

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